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From spot@oreo.graphics.cs.cmu.edu Mon Jan 15 16:19:16 1996
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From: Scott Draves <spot@oreo.graphics.cs.cmu.edu>
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Subject: RFD: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh
This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet Newsgroup comp.lang.scheme.scsh
RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic
and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no
interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers.
CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects
of scsh, the Scheme Shell.
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to create the
unmoderated Usenet group comp.lang.scheme.scsh. This message initiates
a discussion period to consider the creation of the newsgroup. The
discussion will take place on news.groups. All follow-up posts should
be made to news.groups Please subscribe to news.groups if you wish to
participate in the discussion.
A Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted within 21 to 30 days of this
posting, per the rules outlined in the Newsgroup Creation Companion.
This vote will be administered by a neutral third party, not
participating in the debate.
** Please limit all discussion regarding this RFD to news.groups only.
All comments should be posted there.**
**This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now ****
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation,
and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups:
comp.lang.scheme
comp.lang.scheme.c
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
and forwarded to the scsh@martigny.ai.mit.edu mailing list
PROPONENTS:
Scott Draves <spot@cs.cmu.edu>
Olin Shivers <shivers@ai.mit.edu>
Brian D. Carlstrom <bdc@ai.mit.edu>
From warren@Syra.NET Mon Feb 12 13:42:46 1996
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From: warren@Syra.NET
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Subject: CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh
Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh SCSH - the Scheme Shell.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Scott Draves <spot@cs.cmu.edu>
Proponent: Olin Shivers <shivers@ai.mit.edu>
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom <bdc@ai.mit.edu>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>
RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.
there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.
CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.
END CHARTER.
HOW TO VOTE
Send E-MAIL to: voting@Syra.NET
Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:
I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.
If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.
VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.
DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross-posted to:
comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
From warren@Syra.NET Sun Feb 25 07:35:39 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: warren@Syra.NET
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
Supersedes: <comp.lang.scheme.scsh-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh
Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh SCSH - the Scheme Shell.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Scott Draves <spot@cs.cmu.edu>
Proponent: Olin Shivers <shivers@ai.mit.edu>
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom <bdc@ai.mit.edu>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>
RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.
there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.
CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.
END CHARTER.
HOW TO VOTE
Send E-MAIL to: voting@Syra.NET
Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:
I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.
If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.
VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.
DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross-posted to:
comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
From warren@Syra.NET Tue Mar 5 06:11:08 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: warren@Syra.NET
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24
Supersedes: <comp.lang.scheme.scsh-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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RESULT
unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24
There were 134 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 158 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh SCSH - the Scheme Shell.
This was being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Scott Draves <spot@cs.cmu.edu>
Proponent: Olin Shivers <shivers@ai.mit.edu>
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom <bdc@ai.mit.edu>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>
RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.
there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.
CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.
END CHARTER.
DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross-posted to:
comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
comp.lang.scheme.scsh Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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by177@cleveland.Freenet.Edu D. L. Mosher
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johno@paul.rutgers.edu John Oleynick
jsc@atype.com Jin S. Choi
jst@firis20.iar.nrc.ca Jean-Sebastien Theriault
keith@neuromancer.lib.uchicago.edu Keith Waclena
kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn
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lhr@martigny.ai.mit.edu Luis H. Rodriguez
lvirden@cas.org Larry W. Virden
MattC@eworld.com
mb12@coconet.de Michael Becker
mcc@watson.ibm.com Mark Chu-Carroll
metzemakers@labri.u-bordeaux.fr Timo Metzemakers
mflatt@cs.rice.edu Matthew Flatt
mgass@bach.math.csbsju.edu Michael Gass
Michael.Robinson@sans.vuw.ac.nz Smrf
mly@adoc.xerox.com Richard Mlynarik
mspal@mppmu.mpg.de Michael Spalinski
mwdaniel@uiuc.edu Michael W. Daniels
nd202@newton.cam.ac.uk Neil Dunbar
nicolas@didec20.epfl.ch Christophe Nicolas
Ollivier.Robert@hsc.fr.net Ollivier Robert
orc@pell.chi.il.us Orc
osada@keu04.rtri.or.jp Hiroyasu OSADA
paxil@interlog.com Paxil
pcolsen@acm.org Peter.C.Olsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us, "P.E.
pdepasca@didec29.epfl.ch Pierre De Pascale
perrier@studi.epfl.ch Jean-Yves Perrier
pjcagnar@didec22.epfl.ch Paul-Jean Cagnard
pluim@xylint.co.uk Robert Pluim
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien
puech@limeil.cea.fr F Puech
r.steicke@BoM.GOV.AU Russell Steicke
rantapaa@math.umn.edu Erik E. Rantapaa
raul@scs.leeds.ac.uk R H Lopes
rehmi@lite.fix.org Rehmi Post
rmcmanus@jpmorgan.com Russ McManus
robby@cs.rice.edu
roland@ontos.com Roland McKenney
rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J. Rufinus
schaefer@didec21.epfl.ch Marc Schaefer
schinz@studi.epfl.ch Michel Schinz
sheldon@lcs.mit.edu Mark A. Sheldon
shivers@lambda.ai.mit.edu Olin Shivers
shriram@cs.rice.edu Shriram Krishnamurthi
sjenkins@iastate.edu
skilchen@ncrcha.Switzerland.NCR.COM
sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
Stephen.Ma@jtec.com.au Stephen Ma
stu@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz
tbl@nexen.com Tom Lyons
tfb@aiai.ed.ac.uk Tim Bradshaw
tih@Hamartun.Priv.NO Tom I Helbekkmo
Tim.Geisler@informatik.uni-muenchen.de Tim Geisler
tonyg@kcbbs.gen.nz Tony Garnock-Jones
trail@ix.netcom.com Jeff Trestrail
vargish@mailbox.ser.bbnplanet.com Nicholas Vargish
vhansen@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de Wolfgang von Hansen
vmanis@ibm.net Vincent Manis
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu David Wald
xanthian@qualcomm.com Kent Paul Dolan
xjam@cork.cs.berkeley.edu Brian F. Dennis
yuval.peduel@channel1.com Yuval Peduel
ziggy@martigny.ai.mit.edu Michael R. Blair
Voted No
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artstone@cris.com Art Stone
bresnab@tiac.net Brian Bresnahan
csaamw@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers
douglas@netdoor.com Douglas Stewart
jay@magic-sam.CS.UNLV.EDU Jay Nietling
jchamber@unlinfo.unl.edu Jeff M Chambers
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
lewikk@grasshopper.aud.alcatel.com Kevin K. Lewis
lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us Gerry Swetsky
olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
rlcarr@animato.pn.com Richard L. Carreiro
rossix!davidmo@openlink.one-o.com David Moore
ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan
sam@sam.franken.de Sassan Simai
SFX@appl2.hrz.uni-siegen.de Lars Eilebrecht
smarry@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
SwatQuest@aol.com
tgriff@ix.netcom.com Tom Griffin
tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu Tim Pierce
whukriede@ifm.uni-kiel.d400.de
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius
Abstained
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mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
Votes in error
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Nathanael.MAKAREVITCH@ifp.fr Nathanael Makarevitch
! Conflicting votes
root@ncrcha.Switzerland.NCR.COM
! Invalid address
ryno@ryno.phl.jhu.edu Rynasiewicz
! Conflicting votes
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