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From: Allen Robel <robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Message-ID: <1992Apr9.162503.1605@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
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This is the 2nd CFV to create the newsgroup comp.dcom.cell-relay.
Included are the original CFV and an acknowledgement of votes
received as of 8:10 EST, April 9, 1992.
NAME:
comp.dcom.cell-relay
STATUS:
unmoderated
DESCRIPTION:
Forum for discussion of Cell Relay based networks
CHARTER:
To provide a forum for the submission of articles and inquiries
dealing with networks using Cell Relay as a transport; including
local, metropolitan, and wide area networks. For the purposes of this
group, the term "cell" is taken to mean a small, fixed-sized,
information-bearing unit that provides the foundation for transport
and multiplexing of a wide range of user traffic types; each of which
may require varying grades of service (e.g. bounds on delay variance).
Examples of user traffic that might be accomodated by a Cell Relay
network include voice (sound), video, and data. A specific example of
a cell-based technology is Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM). Examples
of networks or services that will use Cell-Relay based technology
include Broadband Integrated Services Digital Network (B-ISDN),
Distributed Queue Dual Bus (DQDB), Switched Multimegabit Data Service
(SMDS based on DQDB). In addition, it is expected that "raw"
ATM-based local area networks will become widespread.
The inclusion of "cell-relay" in the group's name was purposeful
in that it is intended to distinguish this technology from that
used in other high-speed networks e.g. FDDI, 45Mb/s Frame-Relay.
Posts of the following types are expected:
o Any and all questions concerning these technologies
o User experiences with Cell Relay based networks
o Announcements of conferences, conventions, etc.
o Product descriptions
o Applications made possible by this technology
o News of public service offerings
o Research findings
o Conjecture as to the future of Cell Relay based technology
(e.g. time frames, projected costs, etc.)
though this is not intended to be an exhaustive list.
This list is not intended to be a forum in which standards are
developed, though it seems reasonable to relate news pertaining to the
progress of recognized standards bodies.
It is fully expected that the range of discussion will quickly result
in the need for an expanded hierarchy under comp.dcom.cell-relay. We
will cross that bridge when we get to it and use experience gained in
this forum to proceed.
VOTES:
-----
ONLY VOTES RECEIVED BY MAY 1, 23:59 Central Standard Time
WILL BE COUNTED
TO VOTE YES: send mail to cell_yes@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote YES to
comp.dcom.cell-relay."
TO VOTE NO: send mail to cell_no@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote NO to
comp.dcom.cell-relay."
Only votes mailed to the above addresses will be counted. Ambiguous
votes or votes with qualifications ("I would vote yes for
comp.dcom.cell-relay provided that...") will not be counted. In the
case of multiple votes from a given person, only the last will be
counted.
If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send
mail to cellvote@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu. Actual votes mailed to that
address will not be counted.
OTHER
-----
Since I am acting both as the proposer and vote-taker for this group,
and since there has been discussion in news.groups on appropriate
behavior of someone in my position, I hereby give notice that until
the end of the voting period I will not engage in any discussion of
comp.dcom.cell-relay that requires me to express my opinions, nor will
I send any mail campaigning for votes to be sent other than the
periodic repetitions of this post that will be sent during the voting
period. I do intend to send this CFV as a direct mailing to all
persons I am aware of who have expressed either support or opposition
to this group during the discussion period.
This Call For Votes, along with acknowledgements of votes received
will be posted several times throughout the voting period.
Acknowledgement of votes received as of 8:10 EST, April 9, 1992.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Both YES and NO votes are combined and sorted below.
- Sites that arrived via UUCP should scan the list for their
path to me. e.g.
rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
will appear under the lowercase "r" section of the list.
- Be mindful of the the various header formats when scanning the
list for your vote. You may not be listed where you expect to be.
"(Andre Wiesel)" <wiesel@ltisun11.epfl.ch>
"Albert E. Schindler" <SHINDLER@uni2a.unige.ch>
"Gerard V. Talatinian" <GTALATIN@ucslanmail.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Jacob Levanon - Network Applications/812 855-2598"
<levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Larry Hughes" <hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu>
(Albert Steiner) a_steiner@nwu.edu
Amalendu Parasnis <ampi@lulea.trab.se>
Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Barry (B.) Hagglund <BHAGG@BNR.CA>
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Bob.Clegg@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Carl Rigney <cdr@kpc.com>
Carl Symborski <carl@umd5.umd.edu>
Christopher Johnson <chjohnso@us.oracle.com>
Claudia Jordan <cjordan@hopper.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Clive Carter <C.R.Carter@bnr.co.uk>
Geoffrey McKim <mckimg@alienbaby.ucs.indiana.edu>
Greg Brewster <greg@brewster.depaul.edu>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no
J Paul Holbrook <holbrook@cic.net>
Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl
Jerry Scharf <jerry@sfc.Sony.COM>
Jim Frimmel <jim@adaptive.com>
Joe_Massa@3mail.3com.com
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Jon Saunders <jons@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
Juha Heinanen <Juha.Heinanen@funet.fi>
Ken (K.G.) Hayward <CRM57D@BNR.CA>
Ken (K.G.) Smith <KENSMITH@BNR.CA>
Kjetil.Olsen@usit.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen)
LORENZEN@MANVM2.VNET.IBM.COM
Lance Speelmon <lance@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Lup Houh Ng <luphouh@engin.umich.edu>
Maxime Taksar <mmt@latour.Berkeley.EDU>
Michael Unneb{ck <mun@lulea.trab.se>
Noelan Olson <noelan@sequent.com>
Richard T Wurth <rtw@mtuxj.att.com>
Ron Rusnak <ronr@teddybear.uchicago.edu>
Ronnie Kon <ronnie@cisco.com>
SRGHGCP@gfv.dsir.govt.nz (Geoff Peck)
Steinar Kj{rnsr|d <steinar@ifi.uio.no>
Thomas Brunner <Thomas.Brunner@verw.switch.ch>
W.Scott.Gerstenberger@um.cc.umich.edu
amit.shah@amd.com
appgroup@Cadence.COM (John Wilson)
asit@malta.sbi.com (Asit Trivedi)
atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil
bauhaus@Athena.MIT.EDU
berrocal@dit.upm.es
bningle@Athena.MIT.EDU
braun@t500m0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Torsten Braun,
Institute of Telematics, University of Karlsruhe)
brian@grot.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bytex!pond@uunet.UU.NET
cathrine_spiaggia@indiana.edu
cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
cfraizer@argus.ucs.indiana.edu
chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
chu@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
cjrivera@licchus1.gatech.edu (cjrivera)
clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
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cres!husain@uunet.UU.NET (Iqbal Husain)
cschneid@pws2.itr.ch (Christian Schneider)
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
dairaine@masi.ibp.fr (Laurent Dairaine)
dhl@msl.com (Donald H. Locker)
dsiinc!rem@uunet.uu.net
dubois@masi.ibp.fr (Dominique DUBOIS)
ed_stockey@indiana.edu
ejfuria@marmoset.ucs.indiana.edu
eli@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Steve Elias)
ellis@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
george@netcom.com (George Marshall)
gja@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Grenville Armitage)
heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
hoffman@tesuji.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
jaflow@nynexst.com (James Flowers)
james@thor.Newbridge.COM (James Watt)
jblst5@lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
jdg0@gte.com (Jose Diaz-Gonzalez)
john stigall <stigall@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
jvt@dit.upm.es
kentrox!ktxs8!rolf@uunet.UU.NET (Rolf Hahn)
keshav@research.att.com
kjtakeko@Athena.MIT.EDU
lap@sol.asl.hitachi.com (Larry Pearlstein)
line@forit.forut.no (Line Steinbakk)
mak@eemips.tamu.edu (Albert Mak)
malexand%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
mian@nynexst.com (Athar Mian)
mikec@tcs.com (Mike Curry)
msn@mtung.att.com (Matthew S Nelson)
mtgzfs3!mtgzy!dvogel@mtgzy.att.com
mwr@eng.tridom.com (Mark Reardon)
parasite@Athena.MIT.EDU
pwilson@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Paul Wilson(Toronto))
ram@nynexst.com (Ram Ramachandran)
rdk@cc.gatech.edu (Bobby Krupczak)
rdr@alliant.com (Roger D. Roles)
reidk@skorpio.usask.ca (Karen Reid)
reilly@cradle.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
rhb@mstr.hgc.edu (Roger H. Brown)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robert_d_vernon@indiana.edu
rrt@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Dave
Roberts)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!cdyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.
edu (Charles Dyer)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!des@iuvax.cs.indiana.ed
u (Des Young)
sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler)
schmitt@herring.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
sjl@glensjl.glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
stelios pavlides <sap@crosfield.co.uk>
sullivan@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
sybase!donp@Sun.COM (Don Proctor)
takekosh@girtab.usc.edu (Tetsu Takekoshi)
tim@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Tim Moors)
timo sinkkila <sinkkila@cernvax.cern.ch>
tmaufer@rocinante.gsfc.nasa.gov (Thomas A. Maufer)
tone@volven.nta.no (Tone Ingvaldsen)
turner@gdc.com (Bill Turner)
william@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
wp16@prism.gatech.edu (William E. Price)
yoram@FibHaifa.com (Yoram Rimoni)
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Allen Robel robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu
University Computing Services ROBELR@IUJADE.BITNET
Network Research & Planning voice: (812)855-7171
Indiana University FAX: (812)855-8299
From robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu Fri Apr 24 13:58:50 1992
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From: Allen Robel <robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.dcom.cell-relay
Message-ID: <1992Apr24.144023.29707@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: University Computing Services, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1992 14:40:23 GMT
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
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3rd AND FINAL CALL FOR VOTES AND VOTE ACK for comp.dcom.cell-relay
------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the 3rd and final CFV to create the newsgroup
comp.dcom.cell-relay. Included are the original CFV and an
acknowledgement of votes received thus far.
NAME:
comp.dcom.cell-relay
STATUS:
unmoderated
DESCRIPTION:
Forum for discussion of Cell Relay based networks
CHARTER:
To provide a forum for the submission of articles and inquiries
dealing with networks using Cell Relay as a transport; including local,
metropolitan, and wide area networks. For the purposes of this group, the
term "cell" is taken to mean a small, fixed-sized, information-bearing
unit that provides the foundation for transport and multiplexing of
a wide range of user traffic types; each of which may require varying
grades of service (e.g. bounds on delay variance). Examples of user traffic
that might be accomodated by a Cell Relay network include voice (sound),
video, and data. A specific example of a cell-based technology is
Asynchronous Transfer Mode (ATM). Examples of networks or services
that will use Cell-Relay based technology include Broadband Integrated
Services Digital Network (B-ISDN), Distributed Queue Dual Bus (DQDB),
Switched Multimegabit Data Service (SMDS based on DQDB). In addition,
it is expected that "raw" ATM-based local area networks will become
widespread.
The inclusion of "cell-relay" in the group's name was purposeful
in that it is intended to distinguish this technology from that
used in other high-speed networks e.g. FDDI, 45Mb/s Frame-Relay.
Posts of the following types are expected:
o Any and all questions concerning these technologies
o User experiences with Cell Relay based networks
o Announcements of conferences, conventions, etc.
o Product descriptions
o Applications made possible by this technology
o News of public service offerings
o Research findings
o Conjecture as to the future of Cell Relay based technology
(e.g. time frames, projected costs, etc.)
though this is not intended to be an exhaustive list.
This list is not intended to be a forum in which standards are developed,
though it seems reasonable to relate news pertaining to the progress of
recognized standards bodies.
It is fully expected that the range of discussion will quickly result in
the need for an expanded hierarchy under comp.dcom.cell-relay. We will
cross that bridge when we get to it and use experience gained in this
forum to proceed.
VOTES:
-----
ONLY VOTES RECEIVED BY MAY 1, 23:59 Central Standard Time
WILL BE COUNTED
TO VOTE YES: send mail to cell_yes@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote YES to comp.dcom.cell-relay."
TO VOTE NO: send mail to cell_no@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu with a
subject line or message body that reads "I vote NO to comp.dcom.cell-relay."
Only votes mailed to the above addresses will be counted. Ambiguous votes
or votes with qualifications ("I would vote yes for comp.dcom.cell-relay
provided that...") will not be counted. In the case of multiple votes from
a given person, only the last will be counted.
If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send mail
to cellvote@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu. Actual votes mailed to that
address will not be counted.
OTHER
-----
Since I am acting both as the proposer and vote-taker for this group, and
since there has been discussion in news.groups on appropriate behavior
of someone in my position, I hereby give notice that until the end of the
voting period I will not engage in any discussion of comp.dcom.cell-relay that
requires me to express my opinions, nor will I send any mail campaigning
for votes to be sent other than the periodic repetitions of this post that
will be sent during the voting period. I do intend to send this CFV as
a direct mailing to all persons I am aware of who have expressed either
support or opposition to this group during the discussion period.
This Call For Votes, along with acknowledgements of votes received will
be posted several times throughout the voting period.
Acknowledgement of votes received as of April, 20th 11:15 CDT
-------------------------------------------------------------
Both YES and NO votes are combined and sorted below.
- Sites that arrived via UUCP should scan the list for their
path to me. e.g. rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
will appear under the lowercase "r" section of the list.
- Be mindful of the the various header formats when scanning the
list for your vote. You may not be listed where you expect to be.
"(Andre Wiesel)" <wiesel@ltisun11.epfl.ch>
"Albert E. Schindler" <SHINDLER@uni2a.unige.ch>
"Gerard V. Talatinian" <GTALATIN@ucslanmail.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Jack Holloway" <holloway@BBN.COM>
"Jacob Levanon - Network Applications/812 855-2598" <levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Larry Hughes" <hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu>
"Olav Ingar Lien" <olavl@ifi.uio.no>
(Albert Steiner) a_steiner@nwu.edu
Adam Glass <glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU>
Amalendu Parasnis <ampi@lulea.trab.se>
Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
Andy Lim <a.lim@trl.oz.au>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Barry (B.) Hagglund <BHAGG@BNR.CA>
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
Bob.Clegg@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Carl Rigney <cdr@kpc.com>
Carl Symborski <carl@umd5.umd.edu>
Christopher Johnson <chjohnso@us.oracle.com>
Claudia Jordan <cjordan@hopper.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Clive Carter <C.R.Carter@bnr.co.uk>
Geoffrey McKim <mckimg@alienbaby.ucs.indiana.edu>
Greg Brewster <greg@brewster.depaul.edu>
Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no
Heinzmann Peter <pheinzma@itr.ch>
INEWTON@grad.cis.temple.edu
J Paul Holbrook <holbrook@cic.net>
JJ Lee <jjlee@descartes.waterloo.edu>
Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl
Jerry Scharf <jerry@sfc.Sony.COM>
Jim Frimmel <jim@adaptive.com>
Joe_Massa@3mail.3com.com
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Jon Saunders <jons@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
Juha Heinanen <Juha.Heinanen@funet.fi>
Ken (K.G.) Hayward <CRM57D@BNR.CA>
Ken (K.G.) Smith <KENSMITH@BNR.CA>
Khanh Ly <k.ly@trl.oz.au>
Kjetil.Olsen@usit.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen)
LORENZEN@MANVM2.VNET.IBM.COM
Lance Speelmon <lance@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Lars Kristian Vognild <lars@forit.forut.no>
Lup Houh Ng <luphouh@engin.umich.edu>
Mark McCutcheon <mjmccut@cs.ubc.ca>
Maxime Taksar <mmt@latour.Berkeley.EDU>
Michael Unneb{ck <mun@lulea.trab.se>
Michael.Rosen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Noelan Olson <noelan@sequent.com>
P.H.A.Venemans@research.ptt.nl (Venemans P.H.A.)
Peter Desnoyers <peterd@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com>
Richard T Wurth <rtw@mtuxj.att.com>
Ron Rusnak <ronr@teddybear.uchicago.edu>
Ronnie Kon <ronnie@cisco.com>
SRGHGCP@gfv.dsir.govt.nz (Geoff Peck)
Steinar Kj{rnsr|d <steinar@ifi.uio.no>
Thomas Brunner <Thomas.Brunner@verw.switch.ch>
Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tom_limoncelli@uunet.UU.NET>
W.Scott.Gerstenberger@um.cc.umich.edu
aig@csfso.fidonet.org (Alan Gilbertson)
amit.shah@amd.com
appgroup@Cadence.COM (John Wilson)
asit@malta.sbi.com (Asit Trivedi)
atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil
bauhaus@Athena.MIT.EDU
berrocal@dit.upm.es
bningle@Athena.MIT.EDU
bolsen@mmni.com (Bob Olsen)
braun@t500m0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Torsten Braun, Institute of Telematics, University of
Karlsruhe)
brian@grot.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bytex!pond@uunet.UU.NET
cathrine_spiaggia@indiana.edu
cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
cfraizer@argus.ucs.indiana.edu
chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
chris@Solbourne.COM (Chris Horne)
chu@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
cjrivera@licchus1.gatech.edu (cjrivera)
clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
craig@mnemosyne.MicroUnity.com (Craig Hansen)
cres!husain@uunet.UU.NET (Iqbal Husain)
cschneid@pws2.itr.ch (Christian Schneider)
ct@east.hudtech.com (Charles Tarzian)
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
dach@alcbel.be (Dirk Van Achter)
dairaine@masi.ibp.fr (Laurent Dairaine)
delatizk@BBN.COM
dhl@msl.com (Donald H. Locker)
dsiinc!rem@uunet.uu.net
dubois@masi.ibp.fr (Dominique DUBOIS)
dwong@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Wong)
ed_stockey@indiana.edu
ejfuria@marmoset.ucs.indiana.edu
eli@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Steve Elias)
ellis@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
fdida@masi.ibp.fr (Serge FDIDA)
george@netcom.com (George Marshall)
gja@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Grenville Armitage)
gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
herbert@mayall.prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus)
hoffman@tesuji.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
holm@mprgate.mpr.ca (Terrence W. Holm)
jaflow@nynexst.com (James Flowers)
james@thor.Newbridge.COM (James Watt)
jblst5@lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
jdg0@gte.com (Jose Diaz-Gonzalez)
jjk@cs.tut.fi (Karttunen Jari Juha)
jliv@slug.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Loiacono IV)
jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
john stigall <stigall@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
jvt@dit.upm.es
kentrox!ktxs8!rolf@uunet.UU.NET (Rolf Hahn)
keshav@research.att.com
kjtakeko@Athena.MIT.EDU
lap@sol.asl.hitachi.com (Larry Pearlstein)
line@forit.forut.no (Line Steinbakk)
mak@eemips.tamu.edu (Albert Mak)
malexand%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
mian@nynexst.com (Athar Mian)
mikec@tcs.com (Mike Curry)
msn@mtung.att.com (Matthew S Nelson)
mtgzfs3!mtgzy!dvogel@mtgzy.att.com
mwr@eng.tridom.com (Mark Reardon)
olho@maldata.se (Ola Holmberg)
parasite@Athena.MIT.EDU
pep@pavnet.pcn.org (Phil Pavarini Jr.)
pwilson@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Paul Wilson(Toronto))
ram@nynexst.com (Ram Ramachandran)
rdk@cc.gatech.edu (Bobby Krupczak)
rdr@alliant.com (Roger D. Roles)
reidk@skorpio.usask.ca (Karen Reid)
reilly@cradle.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
rhb@mstr.hgc.edu (Roger H. Brown)
richardb@trwind.trw.com (Richard Brehove)
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robert_d_vernon@indiana.edu
roethig@t500e0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Juergen Roethig)
ronald@ixstar.att.com (Ronald H Davis +1 708 979 1720)
rrt@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Dave Roberts)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!cdyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles Dyer)
rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!des@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Des Young)
sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler)
schmitt@herring.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
sg04%ploni@gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
sjl@glensjl.glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
stelios pavlides <sap@crosfield.co.uk>
sullivan@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
sybase!donp@Sun.COM (Don Proctor)
takekosh@girtab.usc.edu (Tetsu Takekoshi)
thomas@lkg.dec.com (Matt Thomas)
tim@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Tim Moors)
timo sinkkila <sinkkila@cernvax.cern.ch>
tmaufer@rocinante.gsfc.nasa.gov (Thomas A. Maufer)
tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
tone@volven.nta.no (Tone Ingvaldsen)
turner@gdc.com (Bill Turner)
uusitalo@ressu.cc.tut.fi (Mika Uusitalo)
wiljo@freeside.ki.open.de (Wiljo Heinen)
william@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
wp16@prism.gatech.edu (William E. Price)
yin@desperado.etdesg.TRW.COM (Ming - Yin 093527 ccC614)
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From: Allen Robel <robelr@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: RESULT: comp.dcom.cell-relay passes 220: 11
Message-ID: <1992May5.155455.20096@uunet.uu.net>
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Date: Tue, 5 May 1992 15:54:55 GMT
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Voting on the proposed creation of comp.dcom.cell-relay has
ended as of 5/1/92.
Voting Summary: YES NO
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220 11
According to the Usenet criteria, both a 2/3 majority and 100 more yes votes
than no votes are required for group creation. Using these criteria, this
forum has passed and should be created.
I have inspected the votes to the best of my ability and found four duplicate
YES votes, which have been removed. No one changed their mind and switched
votes.
After the 5 day waiting period, barring serious objection,
comp.dcom.cell-relay should be newgrouped and appear at your site.
Many thanks to all who participated.
YES votes
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1 "(Andre Wiesel)" <wiesel@ltisun11.epfl.ch>
2 "Albert E. Schindler" <SHINDLER@uni2a.unige.ch>
3 "Bill Bergman" <BERGMAN@RALVMG.VNET.IBM.COM>
4 "Gary J. Minden" <gminden@boole.tisl.ukans.edu>
5 "Gerard V. Talatinian" <GTALATIN@ucslanmail.ucs.indiana.edu>
6 "Jack Holloway" <holloway@BBN.COM>
7 "Jacob Levanon - Network Applications/812 855-2598"
<levanon@browneyes.ucs.indiana.edu>
8 "Larry Hughes" <hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu>
9 "Michael A. Pagels" <pagels@cs.arizona.edu>
10 "Olav Ingar Lien" <olavl@ifi.uio.no>
11 (Albert Steiner) a_steiner@nwu.edu
12 Adam Glass <glass@postgres.Berkeley.EDU>
13 Amalendu Parasnis <ampi@lulea.trab.se>
14 Andrew Schmidt <schmidt@cs.uiuc.edu>
15 Andy Lim <a.lim@trl.oz.au>
16 Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
17 Ashim Roy G'town x 5649 <AROY@LANDO.HNS.COM>
18 BLANCHARD@TETHYS.UCC.UMASS.EDU
19 Barry (B.) Hagglund <BHAGG@BNR.CA>
20 Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
21 Bob.Clegg@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
22 Bruce Orchard <orchard@punch.engr.wisc.edu>
23 Carl Symborski <carl@umd5.umd.edu>
24 Christophe Wolfhugel <Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr>
25 Christopher Johnson <chjohnso@us.oracle.com>
26 Claudia Jordan <cjordan@hopper.acs.ohio-state.edu>
27 Clive Carter <C.R.Carter@bnr.co.uk>
28 Craig Partridge <craig@aland.bbn.com>
29 Danny Padwa <PADWA@HUSC15.HARVARD.EDU>
30 Derek McAuley <Derek.McAuley@cl.cam.ac.uk>
31 Don.Deal@oit.gatech.edu (Don Deal)
32 Don_Bellenger@3mail.3com.com
33 Evan Gamblin <0001847804@mcimail.com>
34 Geoffrey McKim <mckimg@alienbaby.ucs.indiana.edu>
35 George (G.D.) Stuart <GDSTUART@BNR.CA>
36 Greg Brewster <greg@brewster.depaul.edu>
37 Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no
38 Heinzmann Peter <pheinzma@itr.ch>
39 I.Wakeman@cs.ucl.ac.uk
40 INEWTON@grad.cis.temple.edu
41 J Paul Holbrook <holbrook@cic.net>
42 JJ Lee <jjlee@descartes.waterloo.edu>
43 Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl
44 Jerry Scharf <jerry@sfc.Sony.COM>
45 Jim Frimmel <jim@adaptive.com>
46 Joe_Massa@3mail.3com.com
47 Jon Dunn <jwd@phil.indiana.edu>
48 Jon Saunders <jons@hprnd.rose.hp.com>
49 Juan Martins <Juan_Martins@deqm.epfl.ch>
50 Juha Heinanen <Juha.Heinanen@funet.fi>
51 Ken (K.G.) Hayward <CRM57D@BNR.CA>
52 Ken (K.G.) Smith <KENSMITH@BNR.CA>
53 Khanh Ly <k.ly@trl.oz.au>
54 Kjetil.Olsen@usit.uio.no (Kjetil Otter Olsen)
55 Klaus Fosmark <kfo@ne.dk>
56 LORENZEN@MANVM2.VNET.IBM.COM
57 Lance Speelmon <lance@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
58 Lars Kristian Vognild <lars@forit.forut.no>
59 Lup Houh Ng <luphouh@engin.umich.edu>
60 MCV Subramaniam <subbu@hpindlm.cup.hp.com>
61 Maarten van Wijk <Maarten.vanWijk@kub.nl>
62 Marc Gumbold <marc@uni-paderborn.de>
63 Mark McCutcheon <mjmccut@cs.ubc.ca>
64 Martin Hunt <martinh@cac.washington.edu>
65 Maxime Taksar <mmt@latour.Berkeley.EDU>
66 Michael Unneb{ck <mun@lulea.trab.se>
67 Michael.Rosen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
68 Mike Goguen <goguen@src.dec.com>
69 Noelan Olson <noelan@sequent.com>
70 P.H.A.Venemans@research.ptt.nl (Venemans P.H.A.)
71 Peter Desnoyers <peterd@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com>
72 Richard T Wurth <rtw@mtuxj.att.com>
73 Rod.Holland@East.Sun.COM (Rod Holland - Sun BOS Software)
74 Ron Rusnak <ronr@teddybear.uchicago.edu>
75 Ronnie Kon <ronnie@cisco.com>
76 SRGHGCP@gfv.dsir.govt.nz (Geoff Peck)
77 Sanderson_Don <sander@sceng.UB.com>
78 Stan Adams <adams@trantor.harris-atd.com>
79 Steinar Kj{rnsr|d <steinar@ifi.uio.no>
80 Telogy.Networks@uu2.psi.com, Inc. <billw@telogy.com>
81 Thomas Brunner <Thomas.Brunner@verw.switch.ch>
82 Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tom_limoncelli@uunet.UU.NET>
83 Tracy Mallory <tmallory@BBN.COM>
84 W.Scott.Gerstenberger@um.cc.umich.edu
85 aig@csfso.fidonet.org (Alan Gilbertson)
86 alanj@endeavor18.wv.tek.com
87 amit.shah@amd.com
88 appgroup@Cadence.COM (John Wilson)
89 asit@malta.sbi.com (Asit Trivedi)
90 aura@tele.fi (Arto Urataipale)
91 bauhaus@Athena.MIT.EDU
92 bbanh@otc.research.otca.oz.au (Bui Anh Jonathan Banh)
93 berrocal@dit.upm.es
94 bningle@Athena.MIT.EDU
95 bobt@zeus.net.com (Bob Tykulsker)
96 bolsen@mmni.com (Bob Olsen)
97 braun@t500m0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Torsten Braun, Institute of
Telematics, University of Karlsruhe)
98 brian@grot.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
99 bytex!joe@uunet.UU.NET (Joe Massery @fs000)
100 bytex!pond@uunet.UU.NET
101 cathrine_spiaggia@indiana.edu
102 cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
103 cfraizer@argus.ucs.indiana.edu
104 chedley@carthago.intel.com (CHEDLEY_AOURIRI)
105 chris@Solbourne.COM (Chris Horne)
106 christen@hpspkld.spk.hp.com (Tim Christensen)
107 chu@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
108 cjrivera@licchus1.gatech.edu (cjrivera)
109 clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
110 craig@mnemosyne.MicroUnity.com (Craig Hansen)
111 cres!husain@uunet.UU.NET (Iqbal Husain)
112 cschneid@pws2.itr.ch (Christian Schneider)
113 ct@east.hudtech.com (Charles Tarzian)
114 dach@alcbel.be (Dirk Van Achter)
115 dairaine@masi.ibp.fr (Laurent Dairaine)
116 delatizk@BBN.COM
117 dhl@msl.com (Donald H. Locker)
118 dsiinc!rem@uunet.uu.net
119 dubois@masi.ibp.fr (Dominique DUBOIS)
120 dwong@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Wong)
121 ed_stockey@indiana.edu
122 ejfuria@marmoset.ucs.indiana.edu
123 eli@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Steve Elias)
124 ellis@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
125 fdida@masi.ibp.fr (Serge FDIDA)
126 george@netcom.com (George Marshall)
127 gja@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Grenville Armitage)
128 goldstein@carafe.tay2.dec.com (k1io, FN42jk)
129 h@MicroUnity.com (Jack Holloway)
130 heinle@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
131 herbert@mayall.prz.tu-berlin.de (Herbert Almus)
132 hoffman@tesuji.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
133 holm@mprgate.mpr.ca (Terrence W. Holm)
134 inder@bu-pub.bu.edu
135 jaflow@nynexst.com (James Flowers)
136 james@thor.Newbridge.COM (James Watt)
137 jblst5@lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
138 jdg0@gte.com (Jose Diaz-Gonzalez)
139 jerian@src.dec.com (Chuck Jerian)
140 jjk@cs.tut.fi (Karttunen Jari Juha)
141 jkay@cs.UCSD.EDU (Jon Kay)
142 jliv@slug.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Loiacono IV)
143 jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
144 john stigall <stigall@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
145 johnc@msc.edu (John D. Cavanaugh)
146 joshi@graphics.cs.qc.edu (prashant joshi)
147 jvt@dit.upm.es
148 jye@hls.com (Jingdong Ye)
149 kentrox!ktxs8!rolf@uunet.UU.NET (Rolf Hahn)
150 keshav@research.att.com
151 kjtakeko@Athena.MIT.EDU
152 lap@sol.asl.hitachi.com (Larry Pearlstein)
153 laube@BBN.COM
154 lidl@Pix.COM (Kurt J. Lidl)
155 line@forit.forut.no (Line Steinbakk)
156 maclean@ctt.bellcore.com (Andrew MacLean)
157 mak@eemips.tamu.edu (Albert Mak)
158 malexand%phakt.usc.edu@usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
159 matwood%peruvian@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
160 mian@nynexst.com (Athar Mian)
161 mikec@tcs.com (Mike Curry)
162 mks@msc.edu (Mike Spengler)
163 msn@mtung.att.com (Matthew S Nelson)
164 mtgzfs3!mtgzy!dvogel@mtgzy.att.com
165 mwr@eng.tridom.com (Mark Reardon)
166 mxs@ginsu9.bellcore.com
167 olho@maldata.se (Ola Holmberg)
168 ooi@dawn400a.hpl.hp.com
169 parasite@Athena.MIT.EDU
170 pep@pavnet.pcn.org (Phil Pavarini Jr.)
171 pwilson@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Paul Wilson(Toronto))
172 raj@hptnjar.cup.hp.com
173 ram@nynexst.com (Ram Ramachandran)
174 rdk@cc.gatech.edu (Bobby Krupczak)
175 rdr@alliant.com (Roger D. Roles)
176 rds@fore.com (Robert Sansom)
177 reed@digital.sps.mot.com
178 reidk@skorpio.usask.ca (Karen Reid)
179 reilly@cradle.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
180 rhb@mstr.hgc.edu (Roger H. Brown)
181 richardb@trwind.trw.com (Richard Brehove)
182 rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
183 robert_d_vernon@indiana.edu
184 roethig@t500e0.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Juergen Roethig)
185 ronald@ixstar.att.com (Ronald H Davis +1 708 979 1720)
186 rrt@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Robert Teisberg)
187 rutgers!ames!brahms.amd.com!roberts@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Dave Roberts)
188 rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!cdyer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Charles
Dyer)
189 rutgers!ames!claris!voder!nsc!berlioz.nsc.com!des@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Des
Young)
190 rutgers!ames!pdn.paradyn.com!efwjr@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Ellsworth Warmo)
191 sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler)
192 schmitt@herring.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
193 sg04%ploni@gte.com (Yechezkal Shimon Gutfreund)
194 sjl@glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
195 smcdowell@exlog.com (Steve McDowell)
196 snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil
197 srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
198 ssw@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
199 stelios pavlides <sap@crosfield.co.uk>
200 sullivan@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com
201 sybase!donp@Sun.COM (Don Proctor)
202 takekosh@girtab.usc.edu (Tetsu Takekoshi)
203 thomas@lkg.dec.com (Matt Thomas)
204 tim@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Tim Moors)
205 timo sinkkila <sinkkila@cernvax.cern.ch>
206 tmaufer@rocinante.gsfc.nasa.gov (Thomas A. Maufer)
207 tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
208 tomasz@otc.research.otca.oz.au
209 tone@volven.nta.no (Tone Ingvaldsen)
210 turner@gdc.com (Bill Turner)
211 uusitalo@ressu.cc.tut.fi (Mika Uusitalo)
212 wiljo@freeside.ki.open.de (Wiljo Heinen)
213 william@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
214 wiltel!aprasad@uunet.UU.NET
215 wiltel!mott@uunet.UU.NET (Mike Ott)
216 wiltel!sundark@uunet.UU.NET (Sundar Kuttalingam)
217 wp16@prism.gatech.edu (William E. Price)
218 yin@desperado.etdesg.TRW.COM (Ming - Yin 093527 ccC614)
219 yoram@FibHaifa.com (Yoram Rimoni)
220 zorica@sparta.com (Zorica Avramovic)
NO Votes
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1 Benjamin.Fan@bbs.oit.unc.edu
2 Carl Rigney <cdr@kpc.com>
3 Harald Nordgard-Hansen <hhansen@kjemi.unit.no>
4 John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
5 atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil
6 chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
7 chk@alias.com (C. Harald Koch)
8 cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
9 gt2341c@prism.gatech.edu (Webb Roberts)
10 mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU
11 shaman@mordor.dseg.ti.com (The Shaman)
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