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Servers ( comp.dcom.servers )

From johnk@gordian.com Sat Apr  4 02:22:57 1992
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.protocols.ppp
From: johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
Subject: RFD:  comp.dcom.servers
Followup-To: news.groups
Keywords: new group, terminal servers, print servers, comm servers.
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1992 17:35:32 GMT

Proposal:
--------

Creation of new newsgroup comp.dcom.servers.

Due to the rapid growth of communication servers in the industry and the
lack of a newsgroup to discuss their merits, pitfalls, and configuration
I'd like to begin discussion on a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.servers.


Status:
------

Unmoderated


Charter:
-------

To provide a central newsgroup for discussion about communication
servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand
alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol
translators, etc.

Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: 
	* Functionality of products
	* Problem solving and appropriate solutions
	* Interoperability
	* General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.)
	* Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks
	* Ideas/desires for new products and functionality

A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such
products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless
messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip
and elsewhere.


Rationale:
---------

Currently there is no central location to discuss this growing
field.  Messages requesting information about this type of product
can be found in such widely dispersed locations as
netblazer-users@telebit.com, comp.dcom.lans, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
comp.protocols.ppp, comp.dcom.cisco, comp.unix.admin and comp.sys.sun.admin.

Cisco, Xyplex, Lantronix, Digital, Emulex, Livingston, Telebit,
Shiva, Milan and many other vendors provide products of these types,
many with overlapping and/or complimentary functionalities. Splitting
newsgroups along vendor, or communication server type inhibits
relative comparison of product merit and also inhibits problem solving
involving two or more different products.

Follow Up:
---------
Please follow up all discussion to news.groups.

From johnk@gordian.com Sun Apr 19 22:04:56 1992
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Path: uunet!tale
From: johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
Subject: CFV:  comp.dcom.servers
Message-ID: <1992Apr18.163432.18456@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1992 16:34:32 GMT
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
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Call for Votes on new newsgroup COMP.DCOM.SERVERS
-------------------------------------------------

Status:
-------
Unmoderated

Charter:
--------

To provide a central, unmoderated, newsgroup for discussion about
communication servers such as terminal servers, network print
servers, stand alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand
routers, protocol translators, and other types of communication
servers.

Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: 
	* Functionality of products
	* Problem solving and appropriate solutions
	* Interoperability
	* General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.)
	* Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks
	* Ideas/desires for new products and functionality

A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such
products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the
endless messages requesting information of this sort on
comp.protocols.tcp-ip and elsewhere.

This newsgroup is not intended for discussion of servers in general,
or servers that provide communications services as a tangentially
to their primary purpose, (ie: Unix workstations or Novell file
servers).

Voting:
-------

Mail all yes votes to yes@gordian.com
Mail all no votes to no@gordian.com

Yes votes sent to the no account and no votes sent to the yes
account will be disregarded.

Votes will be accepted through May 7 1992.

From johnk@gordian.com Mon May 11 17:54:08 1992
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.dcom.servers passes 132: 19
Message-ID: <1992May11.181143.3251@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Gordian
Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 18:11:43 GMT
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Lines: 225

Voting on the proposed creation of comp.dcom.servers ended
May 7th.  It received 132 votes for, and 19 votes against.

No 'no' votes were received in the 'yes' account and no 'yes' votes
were received in the 'no' account.

A copy of the proposed charter and all valid votes received are
inclosed below.

comp.dcom.servers will be created after the standard 5 day waiting period.

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Proposal:
--------

Creation of new newsgroup comp.dcom.servers.

Due to the rapid growth of communication servers in the industry and the
lack of a newsgroup to discuss their merits, pitfalls, and configuration
I'd like to begin discussion on a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.servers.


Status:
------

Unmoderated


Charter:
-------

To provide a central newsgroup for discussion about communication
servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand
alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol
translators, etc.

Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: 
	* Functionality of products
	* Problem solving and appropriate solutions
	* Interoperability
	* General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.)
	* Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks
	* Ideas/desires for new products and functionality

A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such
products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless
messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip
and elsewhere.


Rationale:
---------

Currently there is no central location to discuss this growing
field.  Messages requesting information about this type of product
can be found in such widely dispersed locations as
netblazer-users@telebit.com, comp.dcom.lans, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
comp.protocols.ppp, comp.dcom.cisco and comp.sys.sun.admin.

Cisco, Xyplex, Lantronix, Digital, Emulex, Livingston, Telebit,
Shiva, Milan and many other vendors provide products of these types,
many with overlapping and/or complimentary functionalities. Splitting
newsgroups along vendor, or communication server type inhibits
relative comparison of product merit and also inhibits problem solving
involving two or more different products.


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Yes votes were as follows:

A. Grant <AG129@phx.cam.ac.uk>
Andrew M. Dunn <mongrel!amdunn>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Arne Langmo <Arne.Langmo@runit.sintef.no>
Bob Baal <bob@summer.bt.co.uk>
Bob Boyd <rbn@ralph.rtpnc.epa.gov>
Bob Snyder <RSNYDER@ATL.dnet.ge.com>
Bob Stewart <rlstewart@eng.xyplex.com>
Bob Stodola <RK_Stodola@fccc.edu>
Bob Sutterfield <bob@MorningStar.Com>
Bogdan Sniezek <sniezek@draper.com>
Brian Fellows <brian_fellows@iegate.mitre.org>
Brian Woodson <brianw@NSD.3Com.COM>
COSC053@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
COTTERILL_CLIFF/HP5006_01@hpwcsea.mayfield.hp.com
Che-hoo Cheng <a563700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>
Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org>
Claude.Wacker@dcal.unine.ch
Cliff Stanford <cms@demon.co.uk>
Danny Padwa <PADWA@HUSC15.HARVARD.EDU>
Dave White <davew@viper.gvg.tek.com>
David Hopkins <foil@sequent.com>
David Pfister <dhp@farstar.secapl.com>
Doron Shikmoni <P85025%BARILVM.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL>
Edward Vielmetti <emv@msen.com>
George Hartzell <hartzell@genome.stanford.edu>
Gerrit A. Smit <gait@atcmpe.atcmp.nl>
Glenn Pearston  <PEARSTON@hort1.hort.iastate.edu>
Greg Brewster <greg@brewster.depaul.edu>
Harish Pillay <csar!harish@uunet.UU.NET>
Hugh Tebault <hugh_tebault@macs.ascend.com>
Jason Halm <halm@netcom.ubc.ca>
Jess Anderson <anderson@macc.wisc.edu>
John Gong <jgong@us.oracle.com>
Joseph Malcolm <jmalcolm@sura.net>
Ken Adler; Ext. 303" <ken@SLEEPY.DSS.COM>
Ken McVay <kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca>
Kimmo Ketolainen <kimketo@utu.fi>
LGOODMAN@zcias1.ziff.com
Larry Rebarchik <lrebarch@us.oracle.com>
Leo Smith <shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Mark Marino <omar@osf.org>
Mark R. Ludwig <uaisun4!mrl@uunet.UU.NET>
Mark.McIntosh@engr.UVic.CA
Martinez_Alberto_SPRITEL@euskom.spritel.es
Matthew Lyle <matt@dbaix.oc.com>
Maxime Taksar <mmt@latour.Berkeley.EDU>
Mehrdad Solaymantash <mehrdad@xopen.co.uk>
Mike Gardner <gardner@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Mike.Patterson@mtsg.ubc.ca
Milton Scritsmier <milton@csn.org>
Pete Gregory <pete@wvus.org>
Peter Dieth <xmaster@eumelos.transtec.de>
Petri Ojala <ojala@funet.fi>
Rachel Willmer <rachelw@spider.co.uk>
Ray Benash <b1hg0jv@kato.BELL-ATL.COM>
Richard_R.Moore <MOORERR@msu.edu>
SYSNET@ENGVAX.PICKER.COM (Len Visconti)
Saliel Figueira Filho <saff@ax.apc.org>
Scott J. Kramer <sjk@aura.nbn.com> (())
Shane Davis <shane@utdallas.edu>
Steve Rumsby <steve@maths.warwick.ac.uk>
Stu Labovitz <stu@valinor.mythical.com>
Thomas Brunner <Thomas.Brunner@switch.ch>
Thomas Canning <tomcan@sequent.com>
Thomas D. Davis <tdd@luke.cl.msu.edu>
Val Wilson <val@spider.co.uk>
Wilbur Selander <wilbur@Xylogics.COM>
Will Coertnik <willc@xnet.ssl.Berkeley.Edu>
William Mercer <william.mercer@canrem.com>
alanm@trin.edu (Alan McCain)
alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
arnold@napa.Telebit.COM (Tom Arnold)
baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (LT J.D. Baldwin)
bhaynes%eng.tridom.com@mathcs.emory.edu (Brad Haynes)
bjork@boomer.Telebit.COM (Steven Bjork)
brian@lloyd.com (Brian Lloyd)
britt@merlin.rootgroup.com
bruce@gordian.com (Bruce Hafford)
cengel@ub.d.umn.edu (Cathy Engelhardt)
cmf851@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Albert Langer)
ct@east.hudtech.com (Charles Tarzian)
dan@phoenix.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
dav@tetracomp.msk.su (Dobrovolsky Alexandr V.)
dave@blackbox.isca.uiowa.edu (Dave Lacey)
dave@pluto.dss.com (Dave Monachello)
davidsen@quint.crd.ge.com (william E Davidsen)
dewayne@netcom.com (Dewayne Hendricks)
dgk3247@voltaire.ks.boeing.com (Doug Kratky)
ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz)
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
finken@sony (Michael Finken)
fisseha@frith.egr.msu.edu
fmueller@napa.Telebit.COM (Fritz Mueller)
futurix!root (Operator)
ggjns@mtsu.edu (John N. Schmidt)
irfan@pluto.dss.com (Syed Mohammad Irfan Ashraf)
jack@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Jack Bell)
jess@turnip.bally.com (Jess Sullivan)
jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson)
jimw@PE-Nelson.COM (Jim Watt)
joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki)
jsuttor@world.std.com (Jeff Suttor)
kanefsky@tera.cs.umn.edu
klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen)
lichtin@olsen.ch (Martin Lichtin)
lschnack@qualcomm.com (Larry Schnack)
marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com
mck@tropel.gca.com (Michael C. Kabot)
milan@mjm.xyplex.com (Milan Merhar)
milt@PE-Nelson.COM (Milt Ratcliff)
minnich@wind.es.dupont.com (Mike Minnich)
poietics!cng@uunet.UU.NET (Chris Gayler)
price@jackson.CMC.COM (Stephanie Price)
ria@math.ufl.edu
rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robp@anubis.network.com (Rob Peglar)
root@rainbow.cse.nau.edu (System Administrator)
shuford@cs.utk.edu
sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
solensky@animal.clearpoint.com (Frank T. Solensky)
srogers@tad-6.tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers)
steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger)
sunil@om.njit.edu (Sunil Khandekar)
swhite@afseo.eglin.af.mil (William C. "Spike" White)
tvandyne@napa.Telebit.COM
vaux@america.Telebit.COM (Ben Vaux)
wis@uts.amdahl.com (Widjaja Sugiri)
wjb@cogsci.cog.jhu.edu
wtwitty@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (William Twitty)

No votes were as follows:

Aaron Leonard <LEONARD@Arizona.edu>
Benjamin Fan <ST702424@brownvm.brown.edu>
John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
Kevin Kelleher <lupine!kevink@uunet.UU.NET>
Lyndon Nerenberg <Lyndon.Nerenberg@ampr.ab.ca>
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
Ofer Inbar <cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Tom Fitzgerald	<fitz@wang.com>
Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
deraadt@xenlink.cuc.ab.ca (Theo Deraadt)
louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (mehta)
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens)
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)
sklower@vangogh.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Sklower)
thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
tjbarre@srv.PacBell.COM (Tom Barrett)