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From boutell@boutell.com Wed Nov  1 17:01:31 1995
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From: boutell@boutell.com (Thomas Boutell)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.announce
Subject: RFD: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi moderated
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi (moderates existing group)

Summary:        Change c.i.www.authoring.cgi to auto-moderated status
Proponent:      Thomas Boutell <boutell@boutell.com>

This is a formal request to discuss the reclassification of
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi as an auto-moderated newsgroup.
This is not a call for votes.  Please don't vote now.

RATIONALE: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi, like many other USENET newsgroups,
is plagued by a very high percentage of postings which are adequately
answered by the various FAQ postings regularly made to that newsgroup.
The same questions are posted day after day. Efforts to educate
newcomers to the group through the regular autoposting of FAQ lists
have failed to stem the onrushing tide of repeat questions.

Even experienced readers routinely ask such questions as "why isn't
the FAQ posted every four days?", when in fact the FAQ is being posted
every four days. It is clear that FAQ postings are not adequately
visible to readers of the group, even to those who know to look for
them.

Since most of these questions come from first-time posters to the
newsgroup, merely sending them copies of the FAQ in response to their
postings is not effective in reducing the number of repeat questions.

It is hoped that the following automatic moderation system will prove
to be effective, require little commitment of time, and be widely
applicable to other USENET newsgroups with similar problems.

CHARTER: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Discussion of the development of CGI scripts to handle the results
of forms, generate images on the fly, and so on.

Moderation Policy:

comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi will be moderated by a program
implementing the following rules:

1. The first posting from any previously unseen address will
   be "frozen" and not immediately posted to the newsgroup.

2. All postings after the first from a particular address will
   automatically be approved and posted; NO special action
   need be taken by the poster.

3. The program will respond to all first-time postings by
   mailing a short Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) posting to the
   poster, answering the most common questions and providing
   pointers to additional resources. The mailing will also
   include clear instructions on how to "melt" the posting
   in question and cause it to be posted to the newsgroup.
   This will be as simple as replying to the email with the
   words "post it." Again, see #2. The user will also be
   provided with instructions on how to cancel their posting
   if they no longer feel it is necessary after reading
   the FAQ. Again, this will be as simple as replying
   with the words "cancel it."

4. To save time, A mechanism will be provided by which email
   addresses can be authorized "in advance", probably by filling
   out a WWW form. This optional mechanism will be described
   in a regularly posted FAQ.

5. To avoid possible legal hassles, the program will maintain
   a "hashed" collection of email addresses with some of the
   information removed. While this will occasionally pass a first-time
   post erroneously, it will ensure that any individual choosing
   to subpoena the moderator's list of addresses will not receive
   a useful "mailing list." Note, however, that any individual can
   already collect the email addresses of posters to any newsgroup
   with ease. There are no new privacy issues introduced
   by this proposal.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

The group will be moderated by a computer program.

Moderator: RoboMod

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for
Newsgroup Creation.  Discussion will take place in news.groups only.
Please post follow-ups to news.groups only.

This is NOT a ballot for a vote.  This posting is to initiate a
discussion, to occur in the news.groups newsgroup, about the proposal.
This discussion will last about a month, and not less than 21 days.
If a consensus can be reached in the discussion, the proponent will
send the revised proposal to the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers who will
then post the official ballot giving the procedure for voting.  This
vote will then last about a month, details to be in the offical Call
For Vote ballot posting.

When voting time comes, you will be advised as to how, where and how
long the vote would be taken. If the proposal receives 100 more YES
votes than NO and (at least) twice as many YES as NO votes, the group
will be created.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD is being posted to the following relevant newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,
comp.infosystems.www.misc, comp.infosystems.www.announce

From boutell@boutell.com Fri Jul 12 23:52:21 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: boutell@boutell.com (Thomas Boutell)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.announce
Subject: 2nd RFD: moderate comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi (moderates existing group)

CHANGES from previous RFD:

The proposal now explicitly calls for the group to be self-moderated.
The new charter does not permit the maintainer of the moderation
software to personally approve or disapprove articles.

Newsgroups line:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi	CGI programming and related topics. (Moderated)

This is a formal request to discuss the reclassification of
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi as a self-moderating newsgroup.
This is not a call for votes.  Please don't vote now.

Summary:        Change c.i.www.authoring.cgi to self-moderated status
Proponent:      Thomas Boutell <boutell@boutell.com>


RATIONALE: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Motivation
----------

comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi, like many other USENET newsgroups,
is plagued by a very high percentage of postings which are adequately
answered by the various FAQ postings regularly made to that newsgroup.
The same questions are posted day after day. Efforts to educate
newcomers to the group through the regular autoposting of FAQ lists
have failed to stem the onrushing tide of repeat questions.

Since most of these questions come from first-time posters
to the newsgroup (about 30% of postings are first-time postings),
merely sending them copies of the FAQ in response to their postings
is not effective in reducing the number of repeat questions.

It is hoped that the following self-moderation system
will prove to be effective, require little commitment of time,
and be widely applicable to other USENET newsgroups with similar
problems.

Proposed Solution
-------- --------

comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi will be moderated by a program
implementing the following rules:

1. The first posting from any previously unseen address will
   be "frozen" and not immediately posted to the newsgroup.

2. All postings after the first from a particular address will
   automatically be approved and posted; NO special action
   need be taken by the poster.

3. The program will respond to all first-time postings by
   mailing a short summary Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
   message to the poster, answering the most common questions and
   providing pointers to additional resources. The mailing will
   also include clear instructions on how to "melt" the posting
   in question and cause it to be posted to the newsgroup.
   This will be as simple as replying to the email with the
   words "post it." Again, see #2. The user will also be
   provided with instructions on how to cancel their own
   posting if they no longer feel it is necessary after
   reading the FAQ. Again, this will be as simple as replying
   with the words "cancel it."

4. Thomas Boutell, boutell@boutell.com, has volunteered to
   author and operate the self-moderation software. Mr. Boutell
   is already running similar software that contacts first-time
   posters after the fact. (Since 30% of postings are first-time
   postings and many more are responses to these, this has not
   proven adequate.) If this proposal passes, MR. BOUTELL AGREES TO
   OPERATE THE SELF-MODERATION SOFTWARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS
   LAID OUT IN THE FINAL CALL FOR VOTES. MR. BOUTELL WILL NOT
   PERSONALLY MODERATE OR CENSOR ARTICLES OR MAKE MODIFICATIONS
   BEYOND REASONABLE MAINTENANCE OF THE SOFTWARE, other than
   to resign, hopefully in favor of another maintainer.

4. To save time, A mechanism will be provided by which email
   addresses can be authorized "in advance", probably by filling
   out a WWW form. This optional mechanism will be described
   in a regularly posted FAQ.

5. It has been pointed out that the database might be
   subpoenaed or otherwise obtained from the maintainer of
   the self-moderation software. Note, however, that any individual
   can already collect the email addresses of posters to any newsgroup
   with ease. There are no new privacy issues introduced by this proposal.

CHARTER: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of
Common Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to
Web page authoring. Possible subjects include discussion
how to handle the results of forms, how to generate
images on the fly, and how to put together other
interactive Web offerings.

This newsgroup is self-moderated. Your first posting will not
appear until you have read and responded to an automatic welcome
mailing, at which point your posting will appear with no further
delay. Provision will also be made to automatically approve
first postings that contain a header requesting this.
Subsequent postings are approved automatically.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Moderator: Thomas Boutell's Self-Moderation Software <boutell@boutell.com>

Thomas Boutell is the current maintainer of the WWW FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) document. He will NOT be
hand-moderating the newsgroup. Instead, he will maintain
software which will self-moderate the newsgroup, in
accordance with the charter above. Mr. Boutell will
NOT personally approve or cancel articles.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for
Newsgroup Creation.  Discussion will take place in news.groups only.
Please post follow-ups to news.groups only.

This is NOT a ballot for a vote.  This posting is to initiate a
discussion, to occur in the news.groups newsgroup, about the proposal.
This discussion will last about a month, and not less than 21 days.
If a consensus can be reached in the discussion, the proponent will
send the revised proposal to the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers who will
then post the official ballot giving the procedure for voting.  This
vote will then last about a month, details to be in the offical Call
For Vote ballot posting.

When voting time comes, you will be advised as to how, where and how
long the vote would be taken. If the proposal receives 100 more YES
votes than NO and (at least) twice as many YES as NO votes, the group
will be created.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD is being posted to the following relevant newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,
comp.infosystems.www.misc, comp.infosystems.www.announce,
comp.infosystems.www.advocacy

Proponent: Thomas Boutell <boutell@boutell.com>

From dave@dogwood.com Fri Sep 13 13:24:38 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@dogwood.com (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.announce
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi (moderates existing group)

Newsgroups line:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi	CGI Programming. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Oct 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Thomas Boutell <boutell@boutell.com>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>


RATIONALE: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi is plagued by a very high
percentage of postings which are answered by the various FAQ postings
regularly made to that newsgroup. Efforts to educate newcomers to the
group through the regular autoposting of FAQ lists have helped
somewhat. However, since most of these questions come from first-time
posters to the newsgroup (about 30% of all postings), merely sending
pointers to the FAQ after the fact is NOT effective in reducing the
number of FAQ-answerable posts. Neither is posting the FAQ regularly,
which is already being done, or posting a pointer to the FAQ
regularly, which is also already being done. The majority of responses
to the current after-the-fact welcome mailing are positive, suggesting
that more could be accomplished if posters received the mailing BEFORE
their first post was delivered, offering them an opportunity to
reconsider the need to post it. It is hoped that the self-moderation
system will prove to be effective, require little commitment of time,
post messages in a prompt manner, and provide a friendly,
non-confrontational welcome for new USENET participants.


CHARTER: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway
Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring.
Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of
forms, how to generate images on the fly, and how to put together
other interactive Web offerings.

This newsgroup is self-moderated.  Your first posting will not appear
until you have read and responded to an automatic welcome mailing, at
which point your posting will appear with no further delay.  Provision
will also be made to automatically approve first postings that contain
a header requesting this.  Subsequent postings are approved
automatically.

The self-moderation program will not crosspost to other moderated
newsgroups.  The user will instead be sent an email reply warning that
those newsgroups were not posted to.  This is similar to the policy
followed by most human moderators and no other policy is technically
feasible without violating the policies of other moderators.

END CHARTER.


MODERATOR INFO: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Moderator: "Self Moderation Assistant" <self-mod@boutell.com>
Administrative contact address: authoring-cgi-request@boutell.com
Article submission address: authoring-cgi@boutell.com

END MODERATOR INFO.


HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:    ciwac@infobahn.net

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the
following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
      I vote NO on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL;  these are not counted as
votes and don't affect the vote count.

Anything else will be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots
with a personal acknowledgment by mail - if you do not receive
one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to
make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again from the same
email address; only your last valid vote will count.


VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.
Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes
votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions will
mean that your vote does not get counted.  Duplicate votes are
resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes
of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not
redistribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV
as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or
otherwise edited copies of this CFV will result in those votes being
cancelled.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

Common errors include quoting the entire article and sending your vote
to the vote-takers personal address.  Either of these two could result
in your vote not being counted.


DISTRIBUTION:

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

    comp.infosystems.www.advocacy
    comp.infosystems.www.announce
    comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
    comp.infosystems.www.misc

From dave@dogwood.com Wed Sep 25 09:17:00 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@dogwood.com (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,comp.infosystems.www.misc
Subject: 2nd CFV: moderate comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi (moderates existing group)

Newsgroups line:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi	CGI Programming. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Oct 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Thomas Boutell <boutell@boutell.com>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>


RATIONALE: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi is plagued by a very high
percentage of postings which are answered by the various FAQ postings
regularly made to that newsgroup. Efforts to educate newcomers to the
group through the regular autoposting of FAQ lists have helped
somewhat. However, since most of these questions come from first-time
posters to the newsgroup (about 30% of all postings), merely sending
pointers to the FAQ after the fact is NOT effective in reducing the
number of FAQ-answerable posts. Neither is posting the FAQ regularly,
which is already being done, or posting a pointer to the FAQ
regularly, which is also already being done. The majority of responses
to the current after-the-fact welcome mailing are positive, suggesting
that more could be accomplished if posters received the mailing BEFORE
their first post was delivered, offering them an opportunity to
reconsider the need to post it. It is hoped that the self-moderation
system will prove to be effective, require little commitment of time,
post messages in a prompt manner, and provide a friendly,
non-confrontational welcome for new USENET participants.


CHARTER: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway
Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring.
Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of
forms, how to generate images on the fly, and how to put together
other interactive Web offerings.

This newsgroup is self-moderated.  Your first posting will not appear
until you have read and responded to an automatic welcome mailing, at
which point your posting will appear with no further delay.  Provision
will also be made to automatically approve first postings that contain
a header requesting this.  Subsequent postings are approved
automatically.

The self-moderation program will not crosspost to other moderated
newsgroups.  The user will instead be sent an email reply warning that
those newsgroups were not posted to.  This is similar to the policy
followed by most human moderators and no other policy is technically
feasible without violating the policies of other moderators.

END CHARTER.


MODERATOR INFO: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Moderator: "Self Moderation Assistant" <self-mod@boutell.com>
Administrative contact address: authoring-cgi-request@boutell.com
Article submission address: authoring-cgi@boutell.com

END MODERATOR INFO.


HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:    ciwac@infobahn.net

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the
following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
      I vote NO on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL;  these are not counted as
votes and don't affect the vote count.

Anything else will be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots
with a personal acknowledgment by mail - if you do not receive
one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to
make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again from the same
email address; only your last valid vote will count.


VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.
Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes
votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions will
mean that your vote does not get counted.  Duplicate votes are
resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes
of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not
redistribute this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV
as posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or
otherwise edited copies of this CFV will result in those votes being
cancelled.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

Common errors include quoting the entire article and sending your vote
to the vote-takers personal address.  Either of these two could result
in your vote not being counted.


DISTRIBUTION:

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

    comp.infosystems.www.advocacy
    comp.infosystems.www.announce
    comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
    comp.infosystems.www.misc

From dave@dogwood.com Sat Oct  5 12:42:11 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@dogwood.com (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi,comp.infosystems.www.misc
Subject: RESULT: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi moderated passes 202:24
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                                RESULT
   moderated group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi passes 202:24

There were 202 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 226 valid
votes.  There were 6 invalid ballots.

For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes.  There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi	CGI Programming. (Moderated)

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Oct 1996.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Thomas Boutell <boutell@boutell.com>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>


RATIONALE: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

Comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi is plagued by a very high
percentage of postings which are answered by the various FAQ postings
regularly made to that newsgroup. Efforts to educate newcomers to the
group through the regular autoposting of FAQ lists have helped
somewhat. However, since most of these questions come from first-time
posters to the newsgroup (about 30% of all postings), merely sending
pointers to the FAQ after the fact is NOT effective in reducing the
number of FAQ-answerable posts. Neither is posting the FAQ regularly,
which is already being done, or posting a pointer to the FAQ
regularly, which is also already being done. The majority of responses
to the current after-the-fact welcome mailing are positive, suggesting
that more could be accomplished if posters received the mailing BEFORE
their first post was delivered, offering them an opportunity to
reconsider the need to post it. It is hoped that the self-moderation
system will prove to be effective, require little commitment of time,
post messages in a prompt manner, and provide a friendly,
non-confrontational welcome for new USENET participants.


CHARTER: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi

This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway
Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring.
Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of
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bmarsch@iicm.tu-graz.ac.at                                   Bernhard Marschall
e8726057@student.tuwien.ac.at                              Klaus Johannes Rusch
pringle@cs.monash.edu.au                                           GLen Pringle
gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au                                            David Gerard
Kevin.Brooke@health.wa.gov.au                                     Brooke, Kevin
ash@melbpc.org.au                                                Ash Nallawalla
greg@sce.carleton.ca                                                Greg Franks
srogers@tuweb.ucis.dal.ca                                          Scott Rogers
g9326325@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA                                    Craig Wyllie
3srf@qlink.queensu.ca                                          Frampton Steve R
dalamb@qucis.queensu.ca                                         David Alex Lamb
gerald@cs.ualberta.ca                                          Gerald Oskoboiny
bedmonds@cs.ubc.ca                                                Brian Edmonds
kshapiro@julian.uwo.ca
rufinus@dxcern.cern.ch                                                J Rufinus
kwitzel@cobss.ch                                                Klaus D. Witzel
jpmf@tcom.epfl.ch                                   Jean-Philippe Martin-Flatin
gbelow@pmail.sams.ch                                            Georg von Below
sjanich@mke.ab.com                                                  Steve Anich
thogard@not.abnormal.com                                             Tim Hogard
bdavis@accessusa.com                                                 Bill Davis
mcravit@Adobe.COM                                                Matthew Cravit
zot@ampersand.com                                                   Mark Atwood
MrFlyTrap1@aol.com
bruce@aracnet.com                                                   Bruce Baugh
MAP@BBN.COM                                                   Michael A. Patton
leo@beezweb.com                                                         Leo Lau
skanga@bigfoot.com                                                 Shiraz Kanga
grant@boutell.com                                                   M. L. Grant
aaron@chrysopylae.com                                           Aaron R. Priven
church@churchbudmail.com                             Church Budget Monthly Mail
phoward@sunsrv13.clr.com                                            Phil Howard
pcalarco@connix.com                                           Pascal V. Calarco
philip@crl.com                                                   Phil Stripling
rdenny@dc3.com                                                        Bob Denny
dj@delorie.com                                                       DJ Delorie
HANK545@delphi.com
dlv@bwalk.dm.com                                          Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
hucke@enteract.com                                                   Matt Hucke
belswick@entertech.com                                             Bill Elswick
rcase@esy.com                                                        Randy Case
wjones@tc.fluke.COM                                                Warren Jones
frizzo@ford.com                                                     Frank Rizzo
guterm@geocities.com                                         Vadim F. Gouterman
madhavan.srinivasan@gs.com                                  Madhavan Srinivasan
lantz@halcyon.com                                                 Lantz Rowland
kauffman_james@space.honeywell.com                               Kauffman James
taggart@rascal.fc.hp.com                                           Matt Taggart
gmc@idirect.com                                                      Mike Crone
paxil@interlog.com                                                        Paxil
maus@io.com                                                        Jim Driscoll
pmh@edison.ioppublishing.com                                      Peter Haworth
joe@Landmark.COM                                                      Joe Berry
mcclellantj@lmtas.lmco.com                          Tad McClellan - Log (Pack5)
tedder@mailzone.com                                                 Ted Timmons
ronnie.grant@mogur.com                                             Ronnie Grant
eric@necx.com                                                      Eric Bridger
lionhert@ix.netcom.com                                        Richard or Marsha
LucienVE@ix.netcom.com                                         Lucien Van Elsen
twells@netcom.com                                                Tabor J. Wells
stemaat@netdoor.com                                                Scott Temaat
gibbins@cpd.ntc.nokia.com                                          Nick Gibbins
SPB@tntv6.ntrs.com                                                 Steve Bonine
dona@nwra.com                                                        Don Altman
dcoe@overlord.com                                                     David Coe
genie@panix.com                                                Andy Finkenstadt
ckk@pobox.com                                                 Chris Koenigsberg
grendel@pobox.com                                                 Chris Goodrum
janne@pobox.com                                                   Janne Sjoberg
jeff@port-charles.com                                             Jeff Jungblut
b900net@primenet.com                                                   Al Biggs
mcrowley@usa.racal.com                                             Mike Crowley
bearhair@ripco.com                                                     Bearhair
mlc@iberia.cca.rockwell.com                                        Michael Cook
stevep@ry.com                                                    Steve Peterson
monaches@cambridge.scr.slb.com                               Gianluca Monachese
wak@snapjack.com                                             Werner Wakolbinger
Edwin_Wiles@ssw.mclean.sterling.com                                 Edwin Wiles
dmckeon@swcp.com                                                   Denis McKeon
eberg@sybase.com                                                      Eric Berg
tbas@sybase.com                                                    Tony Basoglu
arielle@taronga.com                                          Stephanie da Silva
rootbeer@teleport.com                                               Tom Phoenix
gdd@xochi.tezcat.com                                                Greg Dunlap
hchhaya@ti.com                                                Harshal S. Chhaya
tomas@twillis.com                                                  Tomas Willis
chip@unicom.com                                                  Chip Rosenthal
sjwalter@visi.com                                               Scott J. Walter
james.stansell@wcom.com                                          James Stansell
gjw@wnetc.com                                              Gregory J. Woodhouse
bill@xmission.com                                                          Bill
jeff@yoak.com                                                         Jeff Yoak
dave@yourhomeco.com                                              Dave DeCoursey
fdc@cliwe.ping.de                                              Frank D. Cringle
criege@riege.de                                                 Christian Riege
bene@cs.tu-berlin.de                                            Benedikt Homann
ca@informatik.uni-kiel.de                                         Claus Assmann
markus.peter@rphc1.physik.uni-regensburg.de                        Markus Peter
bouvin@daimi.aau.dk                                           Niels Olof Bouvin
sparre@fys.ku.dk                                          Jacob Sparre Andersen
david@U.Arizona.EDU                                           David W. Crawford
shap.wolf@asu.edu                                                  Shapard Wolf
norm+@andrew.cmu.edu                                           Norman Papernick
tchrist@alumni.cs.colorado.edu                                 Tom Christiansen
stricherz@huey.met.fsu.edu                                          I R A Aggie
gei@head-cfa.harvard.edu                                      Guenther Eichhorn
inamn@lehigh.edu                        Lehigh University Amnesty International
uglmiller@msuvx2.memphis.edu
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu                                              David Wald
mareyes@NMSU.Edu
riesbeck@ils.nwu.edu                                                   Riesbeck
llurch@networking.stanford.edu                           Richard Charles Graves
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                              Richard H. Miller
dzhu@request.mdacc.tmc.edu                                            Dakai Zhu
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu                                  Chris Siebenmann
dchee@uci.edu                                                        Derek Chee
boldt@math.ucsb.edu                                                  Axel Boldt
hermit@cats.ucsc.edu
paul@titian.bvis.uic.edu                                        Paul F. Neumann
collinf@kuoi.asui.uidaho.edu                                      Collin Forbes
mwdaniel@uiuc.edu                                            Michael W. Daniels
nneul@umr.edu                                                  Nathan Neulinger
tyketto@corona.unomaha.edu                                 A Guy called Tyketto
laura@skat.usc.edu                                               Laura Pearlman
adair@bigpine.csee.usf.edu                                       Jonathan Adair
pw@cacs.usl.edu                                            Pirawat Watanapongse
Lee.Choquette@m.cc.utah.edu                                       Lee Choquette
guinn@mail.utexas.edu                                                 Tim Guinn
kih@CS.Wayne.EDU                                                     Jim Harlan
gregm@WPI.EDU                                                      Gregory Marr
healy@seviche.med.yale.edu                                     Matthew D. Healy
cassaign@clipper.ens.fr                                        Julien Cassaigne
ollivier.robert@eurocontrol.fr                                  Ollivier Robert
archer@hsc.fr                                                    Vincent Archer
francois.olleon@mc2.fr                                          François OLLEON
gapinski@lerc.nasa.gov                                            Gary Gapinski
jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov                                          J. Porter Clark
jnmarso@usgs.gov                      Jeffrey N Marso, Geologist, Vancouver, WA
pirot@ceid.upatras.gr                                        Ipirotis Panayotis
bjornhb@skyrr.is                                         Bjorn Heimir Bjornsson
bollini%aurelia@aurelia.ariadne.it                           Alessandro Bollini
m.cucinato@net1-01.bcs.it                                        Marco Cucinato
mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it                                      Maurizio Codogno
sabre@sabri.pc.my                                                         sabre
kebera@achilles.net                                             Krishna E. Bera
krisz9@alliance.net                                                       nigel
cooahu@aloha.net                                        Paul Ayers (Linux Pine)
jordyn@bestweb.net                                           Jordyn A. Buchanan
headley@redwood.binc.net                                         George Headley
dummy@c2.net                                                             Robert
mikeh@iac.net                                                        Mike Heins
hardym@ibm.net                                                       Marc Hardy
david@more.net                                                       David Drum
stbrown@nacs.net                                                     Stan Brown
birchall@email.njin.net                                     Dan "Shag" Birchall
tknab@nyx.net                                                        Terry Knab
Fnord@odyssee.net                                                   Thomas Moll
pinochet@polaris.net                                             Susan Pinochet
mdm@qis.net                                                  Mitchell D. Miller
chad@radix.net                                                     Chad Schrock
dryden@radix.net                                                Tracy S. Dryden
jdg@rahul.net                                                   John David Galt
mick@thegroup.net                                                 Mick Shadduck
tom.randulff@nooft.abb.no
Johan.Schadee@alcatel.no                                          Johan Schadee
steffent@stud.ntnu.no                                           Steffen Thorsen
Borge.Brunes@cc.uit.no
stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz                                      Stuart Yeates
tlawson@amug.org                                                 Todd C. Lawson
bmonsell@cpcug.org                                             Brian C. Monsell
wayned@cpcug.org                                              Wayne Dernoncourt
jdfalk@cybernothing.org
beccat@magicats.org                                                Becca Thomas
nop@kagoona.mitre.org                                            Jay A. Carlson
Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG                                   Russell Schulz
pat@patlee.org                                                      Patrick Lee
zwir@aurora.put.poznan.pl                                       Michal Zawirski
pmelo@mat.uc.pt                                                      Paulo Melo
sip@adept.se                                              Sven-Ingvar Petersson
persson_jens@btjlu-fs-1.btj.se
Raphael.Quinet@eed.ericsson.se                                   Raphael Quinet
d95-hsv@nada.kth.se                                              Håkan Svensson
bengtl@maths.lth.se                                               Bengt Larsson
michaelj@remotecom.se                                         Michael Nordstrom
jans@matematik.su.se                                               Jan Snellman
ichmt@fiesta.me.metu.edu.tr                                               ICHMT
akhavr@compchem.kiev.ua                                 Andrey V Khavryutchenko
mick.partis@hri.ac.uk                                               Mick Partis
Alain.Deckers@man.ac.uk                                           Alain Deckers
d.j.evans@reading.ac.uk                                          David J. Evans
ihc@ukc.ac.uk                                                        Ian Cooper
nick@cimio.co.uk                                                  Nick Waterman
geoffr@arcturus.demon.co.uk                                         Geoff Riley
stevo@jonlan.demon.co.uk                                          Stephen Smith
gavin@senator.demon.co.uk                                           Gavin Estey
chad@vellum.demon.co.uk                                              Chad Hanna
david@diablo.eimages.co.uk                                       David Cantrell
steven@iisl.co.uk                                                 Steven Hedges
esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us                                    Eric S. Johansson
kip@monroe.lib.mi.us                                                Kip DeGraaf
stuart.greenfield@cpa.state.tx.us                             Stuart Greenfield

Voted NO
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doctor@doctor.nl2k.edmonton.ab.ca                                    The Doctor
betanet@betabeta.com                                           Tim Cassedy-Blum
stainles@bga.com                                                   Dwight Brown
varange@crl.com                                                    Troy Varange
booda@datasync.com                                              Martin H. Booda
abigail@ny.fnx.com                                                      Abigail
Jimrtex@gnn.com                                                       Jim Riley
mtrc@mcenter.com                                                           mtrc
tipsinc@mindspring.com                                               Dan @ TIPS
olav@viking.mv.com                                              Olav Nieuwejaar
kimdv@netcom.com                                                   Kim DeVaughn
mwe@nomos.com                                                    Michael Emeigh
gjohnson@season.com                                                Gary Johnson
johndoe@world.std.com                                   Bus error - core dumped
joerg@pharmacy.isu.edu                                       Joerg Senekowitsch
patl@lcs.mit.edu                                            Patrick J. LoPresti
vivek@cs.rice.edu                                           Vivek Sadananda Pai
mtpins@isca.uiowa.edu                                            Michael T Pins
afabbro@umich.edu                                          Andrew Philip Fabbro
ananda@cs.utexas.edu                                              Ananda M. Kar
geenius@albany.net                                              Geenius at Wrok
bell@clark.net                                            Dr. Edwin V. Bell, II
msoysal@mistik.express.net                                  Mustafa Soysal MS57
shrao@nyx.net                                                       Shrisha Rao

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mailbox@mightymedia.com.au                                        Iain Chalmers
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system@codeworks.gen.nz                                      Wayne W. McDougall
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nunosouto@grupo,bfe.pt                                               Nuno Souto
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fred@aopen.advtel.net                                      Frederick J. Barnett
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rickh39@mail.idt.net                                               Rick Hodgens
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