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From grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu Wed Mar 9 23:43:15 1994
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From: grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: RFD: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization
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The First Request for Discussion (RFD) on the REORGANIZATION of
COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS
----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----
Note: Discussion on this RFD should occur in "news.groups"
as the Guidelines suggest.
Introduction
------------
The need for a reorganization of COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS has
become apparent recently, as users in the newsgroup (including
myself) have complained aloud at the increasing traffic on
the numerous applications available for the MS-Windows operating
environment. In March, 1993, the Software Publishers Association
reported that Windows applications outsold DOS applications for
the first time in history. Since it has become all but impossible to
buy a PC nowadays without a copy of MS-Windows on it, and with the
upcoming release of Windows 4.0, MS-Windows appears to be
an operating environment that is stable, widely-accepted,
and here to stay.
This newsgroup has an enormous amount of traffic
and is consistently ranked in the top 100 or so newsgroups for
traffic and popularity. Finding topics on the applications
one is personally interested in has become all but impossible.
This serves as the formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the
reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps.
--------------------------------------------------------------
General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:
Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics
on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's
specific subject area. For instance, only word-processing
applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment
would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,
or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation
votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc
Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.
Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:
questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,
personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any
MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.os.ms-windows.apps -> comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-
multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);
and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for
the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final
vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment
itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on
comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.
It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people
time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.
Specific Charters on New Groups Proposed:
----------------------------------------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows word-processing applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is word-processing
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software
would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,
WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.spreadsheet (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows spreadsheet applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is spreadsheet
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows spreadsheet software
would be appropriate here. Excel, Quattro Pro,
Lotus 1-2-3, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows communication applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is communication
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows communications software
would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for
Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows utilities.
Charter: The subject area for this group is utilities for
MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,
HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold
for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples
of software topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.networking (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of MS-Windows networking applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is networking
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows networking software
would be appropriate here. Lantastic, Netware,
Windows for Workgroups, etc.
are examples of software topics appropriate for
this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.graphics (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of MS-Windows graphics & CAD applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is graphics
presentation and CAD applications. Any discussion
related to questions or comments on MS-Windows
graphics presentation and CAD software would
be appropriate here. AutoCAD, Corel Draw,
Harvard Graphics, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Purposely left out of RFD:
Databases . . . . Covered already by the comp.databases.* hierarchy
PIMs . . . . . . Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.01%)
Financial . . . . Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.87%)
Programming . . . Covered already by comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.*
Percentages were computed from a 2 month survey of subjects on
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.
---------
Summary
-------
By renaming the current group and adding 6 more
newsgroups to the hierarchy, comp.os.ms-windows.apps
will be made more easily readable in the near future.
The reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps has
been overdue and this proposal has taken pains to be
as simple and as logical as possible.
Why not comp.os.ms-windows.excel, *.word, *.xtree, *.pc-tools, etc.?
The alternative reorganization plan would create a newsgroup
for each "major" application that exists on the market today.
A reorganization plan that goes by specific application names
is much more uncertain & difficult, because those names are
subject to change as software companies get eaten up
(and the name of their product changes), reorganize themselves,
or dump products in favor of following other avenues.
Also, what constitutes a "major" (as opposed to minor or
hardly used) application would have to be argued; shareware and
freeware applications would also have to be equally represented.
And what is popular today certainly may not even exist 5 years
>from now. Upkeep and maintenance of the hierarchy would have
to be done routinely, which is an unlikely prospect.
Last, if something like *.amipro doesn't pass, Amipro users
are left discussing their word processor only in *.misc again.
If such a reorganization scheme is used, where do questions such as,
"What's the best Windows word-processor/spreadsheet/etc.?" fall
under? Do they have to crosspost to all the word-processor groups,
or just *.misc? If they do the latter, a large pros & cons
discussion on what is *the* best word processor would then ensue
on *.misc, which would make such an reorganization
effectively useless.
-------------------------------------
Notes on this RFD
-----------------
This RFD is being posted on March 10, 1994 to the following groups:
news.groups
news.announce.newgroups
comp.os.ms-windows.apps
comp.os.ms-windows.misc
comp.os.ms-windows.announce
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
and may be freely distributed to any other groups or mailing lists
where it might be of relevance. Please leave the Followup-To:
header intact. Persons not able to communicate or post directly
to Usenet may mail their comments or questions to:
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu
** All pertinent discussion relating to this RFD **
** should take place on news.groups, hence **
** follow-ups have been directed there. I strongly **
** urge readers to limit their discussion on this **
** RFD to news.groups, as is the recognized **
** convention. **
Call for Votes
--------------
The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 30 days,
on or around April 11, 1994.
The CFV is expected to be conducted by an independent vote-taker,
arranged through Ron Dippold. The CFV will be sent out to the
same newsgroups (listed above) as the RFD was sent to. Details
on voting will be posted in the CFV.
-jmg
From grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu Thu Mar 24 18:10:05 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization
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----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----
The Second Request for Discussion (RFD) on the REORGANIZATION of
COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS
----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----
Note: Discussion on this RFD should occur in "news.groups"
as the Guidelines suggest.
Note: Changes from the 1st RFD are noted by a leading '*'.
Introduction
------------
The need for a reorganization of COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS has
become apparent recently, as users in the newsgroup (including
myself) have complained aloud at the increasing traffic on
the numerous applications available for the MS-Windows operating
environment. In March, 1993, the Software Publishers Association
reported that Windows applications outsold DOS applications for
the first time in history. Since it has become all but impossible to
buy a PC nowadays without a copy of MS-Windows on it, and with the
upcoming release of Windows 4.0, MS-Windows appears to be
an operating environment that is stable, widely-accepted,
and here to stay.
This newsgroup has an enormous amount of traffic
and is consistently ranked in the top 100 or so newsgroups for
traffic and popularity. Finding topics on the applications
one is personally interested in has become all but impossible.
This serves as the formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the
reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps.
--------------------------------------------------------------
General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:
Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics
on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's
specific subject area. For instance, only word-processing
applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment
would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,
or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation
votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc
Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.
Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:
questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,
personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any
MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.os.ms-windows.apps -> comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-
multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);
and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for
the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final
vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment
itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on
comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.
It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people
time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.
Specific Charters on New Groups Proposed:
----------------------------------------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows word-processing applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is word-processing
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software
would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,
WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows communication applications.
Charter: The subject area for this group is communication
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows communications software
would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for
Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion on MS-Windows utilities.
Charter: The subject area for this group is utilities for
MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,
HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold
for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples
of software topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
---------
*Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)
*
*Description: Discussion on MS-Windows financial & tax software.
*
*Charter: The subject area for this group is financial
* and tax software. Any discussion related to
* programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.
* are examples of software
* topics appropriate for this group.
* The General Charter is also included here.
---------
Purposely left out of RFD:
Databases -- Covered already by the comp.databases.* hierarchy
PIMs -- Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.01%)
Financial -- Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.87%)
* The above group was added due to discussion on the RFD.
Programming -- Covered already by comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.*
* Networking -- Covered by CFV of comp.os.ms-windows.networking groups
* Spreadsheets - Covered by comp.apps.spreadsheets
* Graphics - Covered by comp.graphics
* The above three proposed groups were deleted from the original
* RFD because they would be redundant to pre-existing groups.
Percentages were computed from a 2 month survey of subjects on
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.
---------
Summary
-------
By renaming the current group and adding a few more
newsgroups to the hierarchy, comp.os.ms-windows.apps
will be made more easily readable in the near future.
The reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps has
been overdue and this proposal has taken pains to be
as simple and as logical as possible.
Why not comp.os.ms-windows.excel, *.word, *.xtree, *.pc-tools, etc.?
The alternative reorganization plan would create a newsgroup
for each "major" application that exists on the market today.
A reorganization plan that goes by specific application names
is much more uncertain & difficult, because those names are
subject to change as software companies get eaten up
(and the name of their product changes), reorganize themselves,
or dump products in favor of following other avenues.
Also, what constitutes a "major" (as opposed to minor or
hardly used) application would have to be argued; shareware and
freeware applications would also have to be equally represented.
And what is popular today certainly may not even exist 5 years
>from now. Upkeep and maintenance of the hierarchy would have
to be done routinely, which is an unlikely prospect.
Last, if something like *.amipro doesn't pass, Amipro users
are left discussing their word processor only in *.misc again.
If such a reorganization scheme is used, where do questions such as,
"What's the best Windows word-processor/spreadsheet/etc.?" fall
under? Do they have to crosspost to all the word-processor groups,
or just *.misc? If they do the latter, a large pros & cons
discussion on what is *the* best word processor would then ensue
on *.misc, which would make such an reorganization
effectively useless.
-------------------------------------
Notes on this RFD
-----------------
This 2nd RFD is being posted on March 23, 1994 to the following groups:
news.groups
news.announce.newgroups
comp.os.ms-windows.apps
comp.os.ms-windows.misc
comp.os.ms-windows.announce
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
and may be freely distributed to any other groups or mailing lists
where it might be of relevance. Please leave the Followup-To:
header intact. Persons not able to communicate or post directly
to Usenet may mail their comments or questions to:
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu
** All pertinent discussion relating to this RFD **
** should take place on news.groups, hence **
** follow-ups have been directed there. I strongly **
** urge readers to limit their discussion on this **
** RFD to news.groups, as is the recognized **
** convention. **
* The first RFD was posted on March 10, 1994.
Call for Votes
--------------
The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 30 days,
on or around April 11, 1994.
The CFV is expected to be conducted by an independent vote-taker,
arranged through Ron Dippold. The CFV will be sent out to the
same newsgroups (listed above) as the RFD was sent to. Details
on voting will be posted in the CFV.
-jmg
From ikluft@amdahl.com Thu Apr 21 23:47:54 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: CFV: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization
Newsgroups lines: (all groups unmoderated)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm MS-Windows communication applications.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial MS-Windows financial & tax software.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc MS-Windows applications.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities MS-Windows utilities.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc MS-Windows word-processing applications.
Votes must be received by 29:59:59 UTC, 11 May 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For questions about the
proposed groups contact grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol).
CHARTERS
General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:
Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics
on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's
specific subject area. For instance, only word-processing
applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment
would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,
or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation
votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc
Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.
Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:
questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,
personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any
MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)
(proposed to replace comp.os.ms-windows.apps)
This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-
multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);
and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for
the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final
vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment
itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on
comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.
It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people
time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is word-processing
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software
would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,
WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is communication
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows communications software
would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for
Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is utilities for
MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,
HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold
for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples
of software topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is financial
and tax software. Any discussion related to
programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.
are examples of software appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
HOW TO VOTE
Mail the ballot to: apps-vote@amdahl.com
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.
Quick voting checklist:
1) Fill in the ballot form shown below.
2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply.
3) Make sure your reply goes to apps-vote@amdahl.com.
=========Begin Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!==========
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Ballot <APPS-REORG-0001>
Give your real name here:
[Your Vote] Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ YES ] example.yes.vote
[ NO ] example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps)
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial
=========End Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!============
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.
WARNING: In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is
standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.
When in doubt, ask the vote-taker.
From ikluft@amdahl.com Wed May 4 17:41:28 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization
Supersedes: <comp.os.ms-windows.apps-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization
Newsgroups lines: (all groups unmoderated)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm MS-Windows communication applications.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial MS-Windows financial & tax software.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc MS-Windows applications.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities MS-Windows utilities.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc MS-Windows word-processing applications.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 May 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For questions about the
proposed groups contact grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol).
This CFV contains a "bounce acknowledgement" for votes which were received
and counted but the reply to the voter was returned as undeliverable. If your
name appears on the list, you do not need to re-vote. If you voted before
25 April 06:45 GMT and have neither received a reply by e-mail nor found your
name in the bounce ack, you may assume your vote did not reach the vote-
counting machine and should try again. For votes after the bounce ack was
created, please check with the vote-taker. If you have any further problems,
ask your site's postmaster.
CHARTERS
General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:
Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics
on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's
specific subject area. For instance, only word-processing
applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment
would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,
or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation
votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc
Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.
Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:
questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,
personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any
MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)
(proposed to replace comp.os.ms-windows.apps)
This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-
multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);
and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for
the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final
vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment
itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on
comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.
It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people
time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is word-processing
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software
would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,
WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is communication
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows communications software
would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for
Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is utilities for
MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,
HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold
for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples
of software topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is financial
and tax software. Any discussion related to
programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.
are examples of software appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
HOW TO VOTE
Mail the ballot to: apps-vote@amdahl.com
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.
Quick voting checklist:
1) Fill in the ballot form shown below.
2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply.
3) Make sure your reply goes to apps-vote@amdahl.com.
=========Begin Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!==========
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Ballot <APPS-REORG-0002>
Give your real name here:
[Your Vote] Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ YES ] example.yes.vote
[ NO ] example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps)
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities
[ ] comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial
=========End Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!============
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.
WARNING: In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is
standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.
When in doubt, ask the vote-taker.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Bounce List - No need to revote
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bsteinke@bj.es.com Bruce Steinke
From ikluft@amdahl.com Mon May 16 21:46:55 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: RESULT: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization - all groups pass
Supersedes: <comp.os.ms-windows.apps-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 16 May 1994 14:36:00 -0400
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VOTING RESULTS
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization
Voting for the comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization proposal ended at
23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1994. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.
For voting questions only contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For
questions about the newsgroups contact grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu
(John M. Grohol).
There were 330 valid votes submitted during the voting period. Each proposed
newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at least
100 more YES than NO votes. The results are as follows:
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization results - 330 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
284 43 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps)
282 39 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
280 45 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm
280 45 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities
227 80 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial
10 invalid votes
All five groups passed.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroups shortly thereafter.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps (replaced by comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc) will be
removed in approximately three months.
Newsgroups lines: (all groups unmoderated)
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm MS-Windows communication applications.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial MS-Windows financial & tax software.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc MS-Windows applications.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities MS-Windows utilities.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc MS-Windows word-processing applications.
CHARTERS
General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:
Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics
on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's
specific subject area. For instance, only word-processing
applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment
would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc
Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,
or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation
votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc
Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.
Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:
questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,
personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any
MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)
(proposed to replace comp.os.ms-windows.apps)
This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-
multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);
and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for
the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final
vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment
itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on
comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.
It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people
time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is word-processing
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software
would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,
WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is communication
applications. Any discussion related to questions
or comments on MS-Windows communications software
would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for
Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software
topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is utilities for
MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,
HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold
for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples
of software topics appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)
The subject area for this group is financial
and tax software. Any discussion related to
programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.
are examples of software appropriate for this group.
The General Charter is also included here.
comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Final Vote Ack
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial -------+
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities ------+|
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm -----+||
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc ----+|||
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps) ---+||||
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