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From chip@chinacat.unicom.com Fri Jun 19 13:20:12 1992
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From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: RFD: comp.society.cu-digest
Message-ID: <1992Jun19.040609.5990@uunet.uu.net>
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Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1992 04:06:09 GMT
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PROPOSAL: comp.society.cu-digest (moderated)
CHARTER: The Computer Underground Digest
SUMMARY: The proposed newsgroup will be used to distributed the
Computer Underground Digest. The CuD is an open forum
for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
cracking. It has been in publication since 1990, and
is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
The Computer Underground Digest began publication in early 1990 to
discuss the issues related to computer cracking -- and the crackdown
on cracking. Shortly thereafter, a gateway was instituted to distribute
CuD via alt.society.cu-digest. If this proposal passes, the gateway
destination will be changed to comp.society.cu-digest and the
alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup will be decomissioned.
Since the CuD is an edited periodical (a la RISKS Digest), it is best
handled as a moderated newsgroup. The editors of the CuD are reachable
via Internet mail at the address <tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu>. That
would be used as the `mailpaths' address for the moderated group.
If you have never seen the CuD, volume 4, issue 26 was posted to
alt.society.cu-digest recently. You might want to check it out.
I asked the editors of the CuD to contribute a brief description
for inclusion in ths RFD. This is what they provided:
| Computer underground Digest (or CuD) began in March, 1990, to continue
| discussion of so-called "hacker crackdowns," especially the
| Phrack/Craig Neidorf indictment, that Pat Townson (moderator of
| Telecom Digest) was unable to publish. CuD's editors, Jim Thomas and
| Gordon Meyer, assumed that CuD would be a temporary forum. But, as
| articles came in and the scope of the discussions expanded, CuD has
| become an established electronic journal.
|
| Although classified as a "hack-symp 'zine" by The Village Voice, CuD
| encourages articles that reflect a diversity of opinion, politics, and
| ideology. CuD is an open forum dedicated to sharing information among
| computerists and to the presentation and debate of diverse views.
| Readers are encouraged to submit reasoned articles relating to
| computer culture and communication. Discussions of the legal,
| ethical, social, and political implications of "cyberspace" and
| computer culture provide the core of CuD articles. The editors
| strongly encourage debate over the content and direction of computer
| technology in contemporary society.
I am not involved in the production of the CuD in any way. I merely
operate the gateway to distribute CuD via USENET. This proposal is
being made with the knowledge and support of the CuD editors. I would
be glad to answer questions regarding this RFD or the USENET gateway.
Questions regarding the content of the CuD should be directed to the
editors at <tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu>. Followups have been directed
to news.groups. Mail replies have been directed to an alias which
reaches both the moderators and myself. If there is consensus that
this proposal is reasonable, I will bring it to a vote in approximately
two weeks.
--
Chip Rosenthal 512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play. Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development | have their day. Let the chips fall where they
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM> | may. I'm going to Disneyland. -Timbuk 3
From chip@chinacat.unicom.com Mon Jun 29 16:54:53 1992
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From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <1992Jun29.195813.13636@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: cud-request@chinacat.unicom.com
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1992 19:58:13 GMT
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PROPOSAL: comp.society.cu-digest
CHARTER: The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)
SUMMARY: The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
Computer Underground Digest. The CuD is an open forum
for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
cracking. It has been in publication since 1990, and
is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
be decomissioned.
The initial RFD for comp.society.cu-digest was issued a week ago.
Please refer to posting <1992Jun19.040609.5990@uunet.uu.net> for
additional details on the proposal.
Discussion has been light, but entirely favorable. To date, the only
concern raised to me is the length of the newsgroup name. My feeling
is that this newsgroup should be anchored within `comp.society', and
about the only feasible alternative would be `comp.society.cud'. This
issue has actually been hashed out before. It was discussed way back
when `alt.society.cu-digest' was created, and the `cud' name was
eschewed as something more likely to do with cows. I am certainly
open to comments and discussion on the naming issue.
Unless there are any additional concerns raised, I plan to procede to
a vote in about a week. Please do not post or email votes at this
time, they cannot be counted until the call for votes is issued. Thanks.
--
Chip Rosenthal 512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play. Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development | have their day. Let the chips fall where they
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM> | may. I'm going to Disneyland. -Timbuk 3
From chip@chinacat.unicom.com Tue Jul 14 00:49:21 1992
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From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: CFV: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <1992Jul14.020236.4807@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 02:02:36 GMT
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*** Votes will be automatically tabulated by vote counting software.
*** The instructions for submitting a vote are simple, but important.
*** Please review them carefully. Thanks.
PROPOSAL: comp.society.cu-digest
CHARTER: The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)
SUMMARY: The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
Computer Underground Digest. The CuD is an open forum
for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
cracking. It has been in publication since 1990, and
is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
be decomissioned.
To vote in favor of the proposed newsgroup: Send an email message
to cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com with the word YES in the subject
of your message.
To vote against of the proposed newsgroup: Send an email message
to cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com with the word NO in the subject
of your message.
The word "YES" or "NO" may be in upper or lower (or MiXeD!) case,
but it *must* appear in the Subject: header of your message. The
body of the email message will be ignored. The tabulating software
will send you back a confirmation indicating whether your vote
was counted as a yes or no vote, or whether it was an ambiguous
vote not counted at all.
The polls will open as soon as this message appears in
news.announce.newgroups, and will run through 11:59pm CDT on
Tuesday, August 4. Occasional reminders will be posted during the
polling period, with a list of names acknowledging valid votes
received. Actual vote totals will not be disclosed until after
the end of the polling period.
Please direct any inquiries regarding this vote to
cud-vote-request@chinacat.unicom.com.
The following description is reprinted from the original Request
for Discussion:
The Computer Underground Digest began publication in early 1990 to
discuss the issues related to computer cracking -- and the crackdown
on cracking. Shortly thereafter, a gateway was instituted to distribute
CuD via alt.society.cu-digest. If this proposal passes, the gateway
destination will be changed to comp.society.cu-digest and the
alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup will be decomissioned.
Since the CuD is an edited periodical (a la RISKS Digest), it is best
handled as a moderated newsgroup. The editors of the CuD are reachable
via Internet mail at the address <tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu>. That
would be used as the `mailpaths' address for the moderated group.
If you have never seen the CuD, volume 4, issue 26 was posted to
alt.society.cu-digest recently. You might want to check it out.
I asked the editors of the CuD to contribute a brief description
for inclusion in ths RFD. This is what they provided:
| Computer underground Digest (or CuD) began in March, 1990, to continue
| discussion of so-called "hacker crackdowns," especially the
| Phrack/Craig Neidorf indictment, that Pat Townson (moderator of
| Telecom Digest) was unable to publish. CuD's editors, Jim Thomas and
| Gordon Meyer, assumed that CuD would be a temporary forum. But, as
| articles came in and the scope of the discussions expanded, CuD has
| become an established electronic journal.
|
| Although classified as a "hack-symp 'zine" by The Village Voice, CuD
| encourages articles that reflect a diversity of opinion, politics, and
| ideology. CuD is an open forum dedicated to sharing information among
| computerists and to the presentation and debate of diverse views.
| Readers are encouraged to submit reasoned articles relating to
| computer culture and communication. Discussions of the legal,
| ethical, social, and political implications of "cyberspace" and
| computer culture provide the core of CuD articles. The editors
| strongly encourage debate over the content and direction of computer
| technology in contemporary society.
--
Chip Rosenthal 512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play. Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development | have their day. Let the chips fall where they
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM> | may. I'm going to Disneyland. -Timbuk 3
From chip@chinacat.unicom.com Mon Jul 20 17:25:56 1992
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From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <1992Jul20.204445.25295@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:44:45 GMT
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*** Votes will be automatically tabulated by vote counting software.
*** The instructions for submitting a vote are simple, but important.
*** Please review them carefully. Thanks.
--> To those people who have already voted: ackowledgement of your vote
--> has been emailed back to you. If you have not received the ack then
--> either your vote was lost on the way here, or the ack was lost on the
--> way back. Contact me at `cud-vote-request' (not `cud-vote'!) if you
--> have any questions. A mass confirmation of valid votes received will
--> be posted in about a week, in the 3rd CFV message. Thanks.
PROPOSAL: comp.society.cu-digest
CHARTER: The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)
SUMMARY: The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
Computer Underground Digest. The CuD is an open forum
for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
cracking. It has been in publication since 1990, and
is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
be decomissioned.
To vote in favor of the proposed newsgroup: Send an email message
to cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com with the word YES somewhere in the
subject of your message.
To vote against of the proposed newsgroup: Send an email message
to cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com with the word NO somewhere in the
subject of your message.
The word "YES" or "NO" may be in upper or lower (or MiXeD!) case,
but it *must* appear somewhere in the Subject: header of your message.
The body of the email message will be ignored. The tabulating software
will send you back a confirmation indicating whether your vote was
counted as a yes or no vote, or whether it was an ambiguous vote not
counted at all.
The polls are currently open, and votes are being accepted now through
11:59pm CDT on Tuesday, August 4. Occasional reminders will be posted
during the polling period, with a list of names acknowledging valid
votes received. Actual vote totals will not be disclosed until after
the end of the polling period.
Please direct any inquiries regarding this vote to
cud-vote-request@chinacat.unicom.com.
Please refer to the original CFV or RFD for additional information
on the newsgroup proposal.
--
Chip Rosenthal 512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play. Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development | have their day. Let the chips fall where they
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM> | may. I'm going to Disneyland. -Timbuk 3
From chip@chinacat.unicom.com Tue Jul 28 17:19:33 1992
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From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <1992Jul28.202509.11213@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
References: <1992Jul20.204445.25295@uunet.uu.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:25:09 GMT
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--> This is the final call for votes. If you have not participated or
--> if your name does not appear in the list below, please get you vote
--> in by Aug 4.
*** Votes will be automatically tabulated by vote counting software.
*** The instructions for submitting a vote are simple, but important.
*** Please review them carefully. Thanks.
PROPOSAL: comp.society.cu-digest
CHARTER: The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)
SUMMARY: The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
Computer Underground Digest. The CuD is an open forum
for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
cracking. It has been in publication since 1990, and
is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
be decomissioned.
To vote in favor of the proposed newsgroup: Send an email message
to cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com with the word YES somewhere in the
subject of your message.
To vote against of the proposed newsgroup: Send an email message
to cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com with the word NO somewhere in the
subject of your message.
The word "YES" or "NO" may be in upper or lower (or MiXeD!) case,
but it *must* appear somewhere in the Subject: header of your message.
The body of the email message will be ignored. The tabulating software
will send you back a confirmation indicating whether your vote was
counted as a yes or no vote, or whether it was an ambiguous vote not
counted at all.
The polls are currently open, and votes are being accepted now through
11:59pm CDT on Tuesday, August 4. Occasional reminders will be posted
during the polling period, with a list of names acknowledging valid
votes received. Actual vote totals will not be disclosed until after
the end of the polling period.
Please direct all inquiries regarding this vote to
cud-vote-request@chinacat.unicom.com. (Please do not mail votes to
that address -- use `cud-vote@chinacat.unicom.com' for votes.)
Please refer to the original CFV or RFD for additional information
on the newsgroup proposal.
As of Friday 7/23 at 22:50 CDT, 209 votes have been received. Two of
those votes are ambigiuous and will not be counted in the total. They
are:
sven@cs.widener.edu Sven Heinicke
tsunetom@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU TSUNETOMI
The remaining 207 votes have been tabulated as valid. Duplicate votes
have been manually removed, and any duplicates in the following list
are mistakes and should be brought to the vote taker's notice. (In
the event of duplicates, the last received unambiguous vote has been
counted.) Valid votes have been received from the following people:
ab45@prism.gatech.edu Anne Balsamo
adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca andrew farmer
adrian@robots.ox.ac.uk Adrian Cox
alchemy@cs1.bradley.edu Mike Swiston
am471@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Dave Grebe
andy@homebase.vistachrome.com Andy Finkenstadt
Antti.Autio@otol.fi Antti Autio
AOSGBAC@Ox.CalState.EDU
aralph@cix.clink.co.uk Alan Ralph
a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com
ba556@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Matthew Mcgehrin
barr@darwin.psu.edu David Barr
barry@playfair.stanford.edu Barrett P. Eynon
bc335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Michael H. Riddle
betsys@ra.cs.umb.edu Elizabeth Schwartz
bill@balrog.aecom.yu.edu William F. Mullin
bill@WLK.COM Bill Kennedy
billmcc@seanews.akita.com Bill McCormick
bilver!vicstoy!aphelps@peora.sdc.ccur.co Austin Phelps
blake@pro-party.cts.com
bovik@delta.eecs.nwu.edu James Salsman
brendan@eff.org Brendan Kehoe
brock@cs.unca.edu
bryan@wupost.wustl.edu bryan o'connor
bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET Eric Hunt
buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA
buus@spica.bu.edu Bryan Buus
bwdavies@mailbox.syr.edu davies
bwmohle@pbsdts.sdcrc.PacBell.COM Bruce W. Mohler
carlton@apollo.hp.com
ccs@aberystwyth.ac.uk
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org Chris Galas
chorn@eastwind.mcds.com Christopher Horn
ckd@eff.org Christopher Davis
cklausme@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
coar@am_nephi.bxbmts.bxb.MTS.dec.com "Ken Coar - Ce que je fais est secre
coganman@ocf.Berkeley.EDU Andrei Cogan
cook@cps.msu.edu
cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu "Ofer Inbar"
crew@CS.Stanford.EDU Roger Crew
crpi!joel@uunet.UU.NET Joel C. Justen
cs_e401@kingston.ac.uk Ryker O' Shea
culpb@ucs.orst.edu
cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Coyt D Watters
damon@umbc3.umbc.edu Mr. Damon Kelly
david@IRIS.CLAREMONT.EDU David Hoekman
del@ecn.purdue.edu de l`abattoir
dhesi@cirrus.com Rahul Dhesi
djoyce@black.clarku.edu Dave Joyce
dk@cs.kiev.ua Dmitry S. Kohmanyuk
dkyburz@techdata.com
dnelson@icaen.uiowa.edu David Nelson
doug@telerama.pgh.pa.us Doug Luce
drac@terret.NMSU.Edu
drlecter%admiral.UUCP@CS.YALE.EDU
dsinet!marka@rutgers.edu Mark Anacker
dstalder@gmuvax2.gmu.edu Darren Stalder
dweber@urbana.mcd.mot.com Daniel Weber
dwfraser@mailbox.syr.edu Wally
eab@msc.edu Edward Bertsch
eck@saul.cis.upenn.edu Brian Eck
edward@pro-ren.cts.com
efs@summa4.MV.COM Ed Sinamark
ELE@PSUVM.PSU.EDU "jeremy"
elitman@wam.umd.edu Eric A. Litman
emr@mullian.ee.Mu.OZ.AU "Elizabeth M. Reid"
emv@msen.com Edward Vielmetti
eravin@panix.com Ed Ravin
ericl@ocean.washington.edu Eric Lundquist
ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz Ewen McNeill
font@chinug.acns.nwu.edu Dwight Lee
fore@athena.cs.uga.edu Howard Fore
gabe@angus.mi.org B. Gabriel Helou
ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US Gregory G. Woodbury
gjb@bullit.void.oz.au Greg Black
greer@sunblock.gsfc.nasa.gov Greg Greer
gswan@psych.toronto.edu
hagar@hagki.toppoint.de Oliver Fink
hansonk@spot.Colorado.EDU " @}->-->---"
howell@grover.llnl.gov Louis Howell
hronicek@CERF.NET Fred Hronicek
hrose@eff.org Helen Trillian Rose
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Matt Hucke
infoage!bradcox@hsi.hsi.com Brad Cox
jake@melmac.umd.edu Rob Borsari
janl@ifi.uio.no Jan Nicolai Langfeldt
jds@hardy.math.okstate.edu Jennifer Smith
jeff@freedom.NMSU.Edu
jerry@teetot.acusd.edu Jerry Stratton
jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com Randell Jesup
jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu
jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu John G Dobnick
jhawk@panix.com John Hawkinson
jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca John Henders
jhl@naif.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
jim@kf5iw.lonestar.org Jim Blocker
jkyser@netcom.com Jeff Kyser
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Jay Maynard
jmcarli@srv.PacBell.COM Jerry M. Carlin
john@rtfm.mlb.fl.us John M. Blasik
jonm@microsoft.com
jpugh@apple.com Jon Pugh
jss@goessel.b17d.ingr.com Jeff Shelly
jstewart@sdl.psych.wright.edu John M. Stewart-
juts.ccc.amdahl.com!ked01@hellgate.utah. Kim DeVaughn
jvs@portal.vpharm.com James Schultz
kanderso@reed.edu Karl Anderson
kd2a+@andrew.cmu.edu Kelly Derek Deyoe
kohler@wam.umd.edu Mark Kohler
kragh@cyberia.mi.org Kragh J. Hertel
Kurt.Jaeger@rus.uni-stuttgart.de Kurt Jaeger aka PI
langston@wam.umd.edu Richard B. Langston
lefty@apple.com Lefty
liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us Liz Allen
lnz@lucid.com Leonard N. Zubkoff
loki@access.digex.com Alan Dudley
lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org
luke@modus.sublink.org Luciano Mannucci
Lyndon.Nerenberg@ampr.ab.ca Lyndon Nerenberg
M.M.L.Kuunders@research.ptt.nl Martien Kuunders
magnus@thep.lu.se Magnus Olsson
malloy@nprdc.navy.mil Sean Malloy
markc@hpcvss.cv.hp.com Mark F. Cook
marko@decay.meaddata.com Mark Osbourne
marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu Dave Walker
martelli@cadlab.sublink.org Alex Martelli
MBAYA@ANTIOC.ANTIOCH.EDU "Matthew J. Baya"
mcbride@cheshire.oxy.edu Michael Paul McBride
md3b+@andrew.cmu.edu Matthew Donald Drown
medley@sun44.synercom.hounix.org Bert Medley
mic@cs.ubc.ca Michelangelo Grigni
michaelb@mars.cse.fau.edu Michael Rogero Brown
MILLERL@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU "Loren J. Miller"
miron@extropia.wimsey.bc.ca Miron S. Cuperman
mjb@doc.imperial.ac.uk Matthew Jude Brown
mjforres@mailbox.syr.edu Maurice Forrester
mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu
mnemonic@eff.org Mike Godwin
moore@cs.utk.edu
morpheus@entropy.mcds.com SINless
mudrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu "Daniel R. Crowson"
n13@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Leonard J. Schmidt
nickless@antares.mcs.anl.gov Bill Nickless
nukey@oaknet.chi.il.us Jason Phelan
olsen@xn.ll.mit.edu
olwejo!bob@cs.utexas.edu Bob Kupiec
oneil@aio.jsc.nasa.gov Graham O'Neil
OTTO@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu Bill Owens
Pat.Cain@actrix.gen.nz Pat Cain
patrick1@dorsai.com Patrick Lee
patrik@cup.portal.com
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu Leonard J. Peirce
petruz@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it Petruz Boonenkamp
pford@unmvax.cs.unm.edu Paul E. Ford
phiber@phantom.com Phiber Optik
phred@well.sf.ca.us Fred Heutte
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu Joel Plutchak
PMW1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU "Peter M. Weiss +1 814 863 1843"
pockrand@src.honeywell.com Mitch Pockrandt
pringle@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au Glen Pringle
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
rac@intercon.com Robert A. Carolina
rad@mogul.railnet.nshore.org "Rick DeMattia"
rberry@sheltie.chapel-hill.nc.us Robert Berry
red@uhura.neoucom.EDU Richard E. Depew
rf27+@andrew.cmu.edu Robert Bruce Findler
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
rmm@isr.harvard.edu Robert M. McPeek
rob@wzv.win.tue.nl Rob J. Nauta
root@sanger.chem.nd.edu Doctor Math
rtw@mtuxj.att.com
russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Russell Schulz
ryan.bayne@canrem.com Ryan Bayne
sandia!marms@unmvax.cs.unm.edu Mike Arms
SAUL_SY@hnrc.tufts.edu Saul Tannenbaum
schottd@ucs.orst.edu Derek Schott
scullyl@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU Lyle Scully
sethb@fid.Morgan.COM Seth Breidbart
shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com Lynda L. True
sorensen@spl.ecse.rpi.edu Jeffrey Sorensen
spm2d@ash.cs.Virginia.EDU
sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu Sridhar Venkataraman
srogers@tad.eds.com Steve Rogers
storm@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU Stormbringer
stu@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz
swildner@channelz.GUN.de Sascha Wildner
tak@hitl.washington.edu "Mark Takacs (Tak)"
tastewar@Athena.MIT.EDU
tinsel@isis.cs.du.edu Thomas Insel
TK0JUT2%NIU.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU Cu Digest (tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu)
tkoppel%server@carl.org Ted Koppel
torda@igc.ethz.ch Andrew Torda
Troll@cup.portal.com
troyer@ips.id.ethz.ch
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu Real life? Ha!
U54418@UICVM.UIC.EDU
urlichs@smurf.sub.org Matthias Urlichs
vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk Ian Dickinson
wb8foz@SCL.CWRU.Edu David Lesher
wbmorris@eos.ncsu.edu ------------------------------------
wgb@succubus.tnt.com William G. Bunton
wierius!tom@enuucp.eas.asu.edu Tom Parker
wixer!bladex@cs.utexas.edu David Smith
wmf@chinet.chi.il.us Bill Fischer
woj@remus.rutgers.edu
zane@ddsw1.mcs.com Sameer Parekh
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Unicom Systems Development | have their day. Let the chips fall where they
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Subject: RESULT: comp.society.cu-digest passes 247: 13
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The comp.society.cu-digest vote is now complete. The proposal has
passed YES=247 to NO=13. Detailed voting results are at the end of
this message. I believe the voting list is free of duplicate votes.
In the event of duplicate voting, the most recently received unambiguous
vote was counted.
Thanks to all who participated.
=== Note to News Administrators ==============================================
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group. Please do *not* use aliases to map the old `alt' group to the
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PROPOSAL: comp.society.cu-digest
CHARTER: The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)
SUMMARY: This newsgroup will be used to distribute the Computer
Underground Digest. The CuD is an open forum for
issues relating to the phenomena of computer cracking.
It has been in publication since 1990, and is widely
distributed in a number of electronic forms. The CuD
has been distributed via alt.society.cu-digest. The
alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup will be decomissioned
once the new newsgroup is stable.
=== OFFICIAL VOTE TALLY ===
Total Votes Cast: 263
Valid Votes Cast: 260
Ambiguous Votes: 3 (excluded from count)
Yes Votes: 247 (95.00% of valid votes)
No Votes: 13 (5.00% of valid votes)
Yes-No Margin: 234
Percentage Test: pass (is yes/valid >= 66.67%?)
Margin Test: pass (is yes-no >= 100?)
VOTE RESULT: PASS (do both tests pass?)
=== SCAN FOR DUPLICATE VOTES ===
<no duplicates found>
=== TOP TEN VOTING DOMAINS ===
6 ac.uk
5 umd.edu
5 orst.edu
4 syr.edu
4 mit.edu
4 il.us
4 eff.org
4 cmu.edu
3 upenn.edu
3 uio.no
=== DISTRIBUTION OF VOTES RECEIVED ===
7/13 9 *****
7/14 86 ****************************************
7/15 29 **************
7/16 10 *****
7/17 6 ***
7/18 5 ***
7/19 5 ***
7/20 8 ****
7/21 23 ***********
7/22 17 ********
7/23 5 ***
7/24 3 **
7/25 3 **
7/26 0 *
7/27 1 *
7/28 6 ***
7/29 18 *********
7/30 10 *****
7/31 8 ****
8/01 2 *
8/02 5 ***
8/03 2 *
8/04 2 *
=== OFFICIAL VOTE RECORD ===
Key:
a ambiguous vote - discarded from total
n no vote
y yes vote
a sludge@oaknet.chi.il.us Corey Hojka
a sven@cs.widener.edu Sven Heinicke
a tsunetom@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU TSUNETOMI
n aultj@rpi.edu Jim Ault
n avolk@Juliet.Caltech.Edu Andrew Robert Volk
n jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com Randell Jesup
n john@rtfm.mlb.fl.us John M. Blasik
n karrer@bernina.ethz.ch Andreas Karrer
n magnus@thep.lu.se Magnus Olsson
n owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu Bill Owens
n peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu Leonard J. Peirce
n plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu Joel Plutchak
n srogers@tad.eds.com Steve Rogers
n stu@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz
n TJW@vms.cis.pitt.edu "Terry J. Wood"
n tkoppel%server@carl.org Ted Koppel
y "kafka"@nluug.nl kafka@desert.hacktic.nl
y ab45@prism.gatech.edu Anne Balsamo
y adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca andrew farmer
y adrian@robots.ox.ac.uk Adrian Cox
y alanc@soda.berkeley.edu Alan Coopersmith
y alchemy@cs1.bradley.edu Mike Swiston
y am471@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Dave Grebe
y andy@homebase.vistachrome.com Andy Finkenstadt
y Antti.Autio@otol.fi Antti Autio
y AOSGBAC@Ox.CalState.EDU
y aralph@cix.clink.co.uk Alan Ralph
y audrey@edi.com Audrey Helou
y a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com
y ba556@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Matthew Mcgehrin
y barr@darwin.psu.edu David Barr
y barry@playfair.stanford.edu Barrett P. Eynon
y bc335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Michael H. Riddle
y betsys@ra.cs.umb.edu Elizabeth Schwartz
y bill@balrog.aecom.yu.edu William F. Mullin
y bill@WLK.COM Bill Kennedy
y billmcc@seanews.akita.com Bill McCormick
y bilver!vicstoy!aphelps@peora.sdc.ccur.co Austin Phelps
y bjorn@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE Bjorn Knutsson
y blake@pro-party.cts.com
y bovik@delta.eecs.nwu.edu James Salsman
y brendan@eff.org Brendan Kehoe
y Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.fidonet.or Bret Johnson
y brock@cs.unca.edu
y bryan@wupost.wustl.edu bryan o'connor
y bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET Eric Hunt
y buck@sunyit.edu Jesse Buckley
y buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA
y buus@spica.bu.edu Bryan Buus
y bwdavies@mailbox.syr.edu davies
y bwmohle@pbsdts.sdcrc.PacBell.COM Bruce W. Mohler
y carlton@apollo.hp.com
y ccs@aberystwyth.ac.uk
y ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org Chris Galas
y charlesr@wspcrd.peachtreecityga.NCR.COM Charles Rutledge
y chip Chip Rosenthal
y chorn@eastwind.mcds.com Christopher Horn
y ckd@eff.org Christopher Davis
y cklausme@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
y coar@am_nephi.bxbmts.bxb.MTS.dec.com "Ken Coar - Ce que je fais est secre
y coganman@ocf.Berkeley.EDU Andrei Cogan
y cook@cps.msu.edu
y cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu "Ofer Inbar"
y crew@CS.Stanford.EDU Roger Crew
y crpi!joel@uunet.UU.NET Joel C. Justen
y cs_e401@kingston.ac.uk Ryker O' Shea
y culpb@ucs.orst.edu
y cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Coyt D Watters
y damon@umbc3.umbc.edu Mr. Damon Kelly
y dante@tid.es Donn Hoffman
y david@IRIS.CLAREMONT.EDU David Hoekman
y david@ruc.dk David Stodolsky
y death@eitc.edu Death Devil
y del@ecn.purdue.edu de l`abattoir
y dhesi@cirrus.com Rahul Dhesi
y djoyce@black.clarku.edu Dave Joyce
y dk@cs.kiev.ua Dmitry S. Kohmanyuk
y dkyburz@techdata.com
y dnelson@icaen.uiowa.edu David Nelson
y dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz dogbowl
y doug@telerama.pgh.pa.us Doug Luce
y drac@terret.NMSU.Edu
y drlecter%admiral.UUCP@CS.YALE.EDU
y dsinet!marka@rutgers.edu Mark Anacker
y dstalder@gmuvax2.gmu.edu Darren Stalder
y dvdjns@hale.cts.com
y dweber@urbana.mcd.mot.com Daniel Weber
y dwfraser@mailbox.syr.edu Wally
y eab@msc.edu Edward Bertsch
y eck@saul.cis.upenn.edu Brian Eck
y editor@chinet.chi.il.us Alex Zell
y edward@pro-ren.cts.com
y efs@summa4.MV.COM Ed Sinamark
y ELE@PSUVM.PSU.EDU "jeremy"
y elitman@wam.umd.edu Eric A. Litman
y emr@mullian.ee.Mu.OZ.AU "Elizabeth M. Reid"
y emv@msen.com Edward Vielmetti
y eravin@panix.com Ed Ravin
y ericl@ocean.washington.edu Eric Lundquist
y ewen@naos.actrix.gen.nz Ewen McNeill
y fletcher@cs.utexas.edu Fletcher Mattox
y font@chinug.acns.nwu.edu Dwight Lee
y fore@athena.cs.uga.edu Howard Fore
y gabe@angus.mi.org B. Gabriel Helou
y ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US Gregory G. Woodbury
y gjb@bullit.void.oz.au Greg Black
y gmhgate!cbp@uu3.psi.com Christopher Preston
y greer@sunblock.gsfc.nasa.gov Greg Greer
y gswan@psych.toronto.edu
y hagar@hagki.toppoint.de Oliver Fink
y hansonk@spot.Colorado.EDU " @}->-->---"
y heiko@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de Heiko Schlichting
y howell@grover.llnl.gov Louis Howell
y hronicek@CERF.NET Fred Hronicek
y hrose@eff.org Helen Trillian Rose
y hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Matt Hucke
y infoage!bradcox@hsi.hsi.com Brad Cox
y J87Y@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
y jake@melmac.umd.edu Rob Borsari
y jamesp@csn.org James Powell
y janl@ifi.uio.no Jan Nicolai Langfeldt
y jds@hardy.math.okstate.edu Jennifer Smith
y jeff@freedom.NMSU.Edu
y jerry@teetot.acusd.edu Jerry Stratton
y jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu
y jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu John G Dobnick
y jhawk@panix.com John Hawkinson
y jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca John Henders
y jhl@naif.Jpl.Nasa.Gov
y jim@kf5iw.lonestar.org Jim Blocker
y jkyser@netcom.com Jeff Kyser
y jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Jay Maynard
y jmcarli@srv.PacBell.COM Jerry M. Carlin
y jonm@microsoft.com
y jpugh@apple.com Jon Pugh
y jss@goessel.b17d.ingr.com Jeff Shelly
y jstewart@sdl.psych.wright.edu John M. Stewart-
y justus@vipunen.hut.fi Juhana R{s{nen
y juts.ccc.amdahl.com!ked01@hellgate.utah. Kim DeVaughn
y jvs@portal.vpharm.com James Schultz
y jwt!bbs-mike@peora.sdc.ccur.com Mike Danseglio
y jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca Jim W Lai
y kanderso@reed.edu Karl Anderson
y kd2a+@andrew.cmu.edu Kelly Derek Deyoe
y kohler@wam.umd.edu Mark Kohler
y kragh@cyberia.mi.org Kragh J. Hertel
y Kurt.Jaeger@rus.uni-stuttgart.de Kurt Jaeger aka PI
y langston@wam.umd.edu Richard B. Langston
y larsha@ifi.uio.no Lars H}kedal
y lefty@apple.com Lefty
y liz@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us Liz Allen
y lnz@lucid.com Leonard N. Zubkoff
y loki@access.digex.com Alan Dudley
y lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org
y luke@modus.sublink.org Luciano Mannucci
y Lyndon.Nerenberg@ampr.ab.ca Lyndon Nerenberg
y M.M.L.Kuunders@research.ptt.nl Martien Kuunders
y malloy@nprdc.navy.mil Sean Malloy
y marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com
y markc@hpcvss.cv.hp.com Mark F. Cook
y marko@decay.meaddata.com Mark Osbourne
y markw@GVL.Unisys.COM Mark H. Weber
y marmoset@mondo.engin.umich.edu Dave Walker
y martelli@cadlab.sublink.org Alex Martelli
y marthag@Athena.MIT.EDU
y MBAYA@ANTIOC.ANTIOCH.EDU
y mcbride@cheshire.oxy.edu Michael Paul McBride
y md3b+@andrew.cmu.edu Matthew Donald Drown
y medley@sun44.synercom.hounix.org Bert Medley
y mic@cs.ubc.ca Michelangelo Grigni
y michaelb@mars.cse.fau.edu Michael Rogero Brown
y miguel@roxanne.nuclecu.unam.mx Miguel de Icaza A.
y MILLERL@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU "Loren J. Miller"
y miron@extropia.wimsey.bc.ca Miron S. Cuperman
y mjb@doc.imperial.ac.uk Matthew Jude Brown
y mjforres@mailbox.syr.edu Maurice Forrester
y mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu
y mnemonic@eff.org Mike Godwin
y moore@cs.utk.edu
y morpheus@entropy.mcds.com SINless
y mudrc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu "Daniel R. Crowson"
y mya@tsoft.sf-bay.org Mark AuBuchon
y n13@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Leonard J. Schmidt
y nickless@antares.mcs.anl.gov Bill Nickless
y Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
y nukey@oaknet.chi.il.us Jason Phelan
y olsen@xn.ll.mit.edu
y olwejo!bob@cs.utexas.edu Bob Kupiec
y oneil@aio.jsc.nasa.gov Graham O'Neil
y OTTO@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
y pacs!jdearin@cs.utexas.edu 210 - John P. Dearing
y Pat.Cain@actrix.gen.nz Pat Cain
y patrick1@dorsai.com Patrick Lee
y patrik@cup.portal.com
y pcl@ox.ac.uk Paul Leyland
y petruz@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it Petruz Boonenkamp
y pford@unmvax.cs.unm.edu Paul E. Ford
y phiber@phantom.com Phiber Optik
y phred@well.sf.ca.us Fred Heutte
y PMW1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU "Peter M. Weiss +1 814 863 1843"
y pockrand@src.honeywell.com Mitch Pockrandt
y PORSUPAH@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU Porsupah
y porten@eniac.seas.upenn.edu Jeffrey Porten
y pringle@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au Glen Pringle
y pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
y psrc@pegasus.att.com Paul S Chisholm
y rac@intercon.com Robert A. Carolina
y rad@mogul.railnet.nshore.org "Rick DeMattia"
y ray.normandeau@factory.com Ray Normandeau
y rberry@sheltie.chapel-hill.nc.us Robert Berry
y rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu Ron Carter
y red@uhura.neoucom.EDU Richard E. Depew
y rf27+@andrew.cmu.edu Robert Bruce Findler
y rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
y rickert@cs.niu.edu Neil W Rickert
y rmm@isr.harvard.edu Robert M. McPeek
y rob@wzv.win.tue.nl Rob J. Nauta
y root@sanger.chem.nd.edu Doctor Math
y rtw@mtuxj.att.com
y ruman@meroot.eng.uci.edu ruman
y russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Russell Schulz
y ryan.bayne@canrem.com Ryan Bayne
y sandia!marms@unmvax.cs.unm.edu Mike Arms
y SAUL_SY@hnrc.tufts.edu Saul Tannenbaum
y sboyle@maths.tcd.ie doctorgonzo
y schottd@ucs.orst.edu Derek Schott
y scott.gregory@canrem.com Scott Gregory
y scullyl@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU Lyle Scully
y sdobson@acpub.duke.edu
y sethb@fid.Morgan.COM Seth Breidbart
y shawn.mccullar@gate.micromed.com Shawn Mccullar
y shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com Lynda L. True
y sorensen@spl.ecse.rpi.edu Jeffrey Sorensen
y spm2d@ash.cs.Virginia.EDU
y sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu Sridhar Venkataraman
y stigkr@ifi.uio.no Stig Rune Kristoffersen
y storm@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU Stormbringer
y swildner@channelz.GUN.de Sascha Wildner
y tak@hitl.washington.edu "Mark Takacs (Tak)"
y tastewar@Athena.MIT.EDU
y tinsel@isis.cs.du.edu Thomas Insel
y TK0JUT2%NIU.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU Cu Digest (tk0jut2@mvs.cso.niu.edu)
y torda@igc.ethz.ch Andrew Torda
y Troll@cup.portal.com
y troyer@ips.id.ethz.ch
y tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu Real life? Ha!
y tsl@src.umd.edu
y twblvs@netcom.com Troy Barbee
y U54418@UICVM.UIC.EDU
y urlichs@smurf.sub.org Matthias Urlichs
y vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk Ian Dickinson
y vnend@Princeton.EDU David James
y wb8foz@SCL.CWRU.Edu David Lesher
y wbmorris@eos.ncsu.edu ------------------------------------
y weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
y wgb@succubus.tnt.com William G. Bunton
y wierius!tom@enuucp.eas.asu.edu Tom Parker
y wixer!bladex@cs.utexas.edu David Smith
y wmf@chinet.chi.il.us Bill Fischer
y woj@remus.rutgers.edu
y YZKCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Yaakov Kayman
y zane@ddsw1.mcs.com Sameer Parekh
y zap@netcom.com Paul Eastham
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