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From jonesw@rtsg.mot.com Wed Mar 31 10:18:45 1993
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From: jonesw@rtsg.mot.com (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: RFD: comp.std.wireless
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Date: 30 Mar 1993 14:12:25 -0500
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
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R E Q U E S T F O R D I S C U S S I O N
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This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.
NEWSGROUP NAME:
comp.std.wireless
STATUS:
Moderated. This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive. The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.
BACKGROUND:
There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks. Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions. As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.
PURPOSE:
The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings. Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input. The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.
A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology. The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.
SCHEDULE:
This RFD was issued on 31 March 1993 and will last for 30 days. If a
consensus is reached by the end of the RFD period, a Call for Votes (CFV)
will be issued within 5 days. The voting period will continue for a
period of 4 work weeks, and end at 11:59PM (EST) on the 28th day.
Thank you for your participation in this RFD effort.
John McKown & Wesley S. Jones
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group
From jonesw@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com Tue May 11 08:42:05 1993
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From: jonesw@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: CFV: comp.std.wireless moderated
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Date: 10 May 1993 11:44:45 -0400
Organization: Motorola
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C A L L F O R V O T E S
---------------------------
This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.
PROPOSED NEWSGROUP:
comp.std.wireless
STATUS:
Moderated. This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive. The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.
BACKGROUND:
There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks. Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions. As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.
PURPOSE:
The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings. Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input. The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.
A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology. The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.
Acceptable Postings:
Any questions, comments, results, or suggestions which are
related to any of the existing committees discussing wireless
technologies. This can include, but is not limited to,
current research, development or general applications of
wireless networks.
JUSTIFICATION OF UNIQUENESS:
The proposed newsgroup, comp.std.wireless, would ease communication
between people around the world who are specifying or will be affected
by wireless network standards. Currently, there is a not a newsgroup
dedicated to supporting communications between wireless network
standards groups
VOTING PERIOD:
Voting will conclude on Thursday, June 10, 1993 23:59 EST
HOW TO VOTE:
All votes must be mailed to: 'std-mod@wes.mot.com'. The votes will
be counted as "yes" or "no" votes according to their subject line
and/or message body.
Please use the following format:
-----------
Subject (If Applicable): [Yes/No]
I vote ["Yes"/"No"] for the creation of "comp.std.wireless"
[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] : [Yes/No]
-----------
VOTING RULES:
-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the
same user name).
-Any votes which are received after the voting period
will be discarded.
-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting
again. They must indicate that they have previously voted and are
changing their mind in a footnote. A changed vote will discard your
previous vote.
AMBIGUOUS VOTES:
Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or
do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible, be
returned to their senders for clarification. Ambiguous votes which
cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is
provided will be identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the
final vote tally.
Thank you for your participation in the CFV effort.
--
John McKown (mckown@wes.mot.com) & Wesley S. Jones (jonesw@wes.mot.com)
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group
From jonesw@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com Thu May 20 09:55:48 1993
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From: jonesw@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.std.wireless moderated
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Date: 19 May 1993 13:44:07 -0400
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This is the final posting of the CALL FOR VOTES for the formation of a new
newsgroup 'comp.std.wireless'.
C A L L F O R V O T E S
---------------------------
This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup to discuss communication techniques, protocols and standards for
wireless computer networks.
PROPOSED NEWSGROUP:
comp.std.wireless
STATUS:
Moderated. This is mainly to generate a useful, readable archive. The plan
is to make posting as automatic as possible.
BACKGROUND:
There is a clear need for a shared forum for technical discussions between
members of various standards groups concerned with wireless networks. Several
committees are dealing with the same basic technical issues and need to track
each other's evolving positions. As the issues develop and the questions
become more detailed, the danger of needless inconsistencies increases.
PURPOSE:
The primary goal of this newsgroup would be to to promote consistency and
mutual awareness between existing committees (e.g., IEEE 802.11 and ETSI
RES-10) and any future committees. The newsgroup would expedite their
deliberations by providing a convenient forum for technical discussion between
their scheduled meetings. Additionally, the open nature of the newsgroup would
help the standardization process by allowing people not normally connected with
the standards groups to provide their input. The newsgroup would have no
official standing with any standards group or other organization.
A secondary goal would be to explore applications for wireless network
technology. The emerging standards must, after all, correctly anticipate
these applications.
Acceptable Postings:
Any questions, comments, results, or suggestions which are
related to any of the existing committees discussing wireless
technologies. This can include, but is not limited to,
current research, development or general applications of
wireless networks.
JUSTIFICATION OF UNIQUENESS:
The proposed newsgroup, comp.std.wireless, would ease communication
between people around the world who are specifying or will be affected
by wireless network standards. Currently, there is a not a newsgroup
dedicated to supporting communications between wireless network
standards groups
VOTING PERIOD:
Voting will conclude on Thursday, June 10, 1993 23:59 EST
HOW TO VOTE:
All votes must be mailed to: 'std-mod@wes.mot.com'. The votes will
be counted as "yes" or "no" votes according to their subject line
and/or message body.
Please use the following format:
-----------
Subject (If Applicable): [Yes/No]
I vote ["Yes"/"No"] for the creation of "comp.std.wireless"
[Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] : [Yes/No]
-----------
VOTING RULES:
-Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the
same user name).
-Any votes which are received after the voting period
will be discarded.
-Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting
again. They must indicate that they have previously voted and are
changing their mind in a footnote. A changed vote will discard your
previous vote.
AMBIGUOUS VOTES:
Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or
do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible, be
returned to their senders for clarification. Ambiguous votes which
cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is
provided will be identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the
final vote tally.
Thank you for your participation in the CFV effort.
--
John McKown & Wesley S. Jones
Motorola, Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group
From jonesw@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com Fri Jun 11 15:56:59 1993
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From: jonesw@whitefish.rtsg.mot.com (Wesley S. Jones)
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Subject: RESULT: comp.std.wireless passes 182:12
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Date: 11 Jun 1993 15:14:16 -0400
Organization: Motorola
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V O T I N G R E S U L T S F O R
COMP.STD.WIRELESS
Voting for the formation of the newsgroup 'comp.std.wireless' concluded
Thursday, June 10 @ 12:59 eastern time. At that time there were 182 votes
posted for the creation of the group and 12 votes against.
Based on USENET rules this vote has been INFAVOR for the
creation of 'comp.std.wireless'!!!
Included with this posting is a listing of all people who voted and the way
their vote was tallied.
If your vote was tallied incorrectly you will have five (5) business days
>from the time this message is posted to 'news.announce.newgroups' to correct
the vote. Please send email to 'std-mod@wes.mot.com' stating how you
ORIGINALLY voted (votes can not be changed now) and how I tallied your vote.
I will correct the vote and repost this message in the event that there is/was
a problem.
Thank you very much to everyone who took part in this vote.
Sincerely,
W. Stuart Jones
jonesw@wes.mot.com
HERE ARE THE VOTES:
TOTAL YES VOTES FOR CREATION OF comp.std.wireless
Name E-Mail Address
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Aieta,Michael ama002@email.mot.com
Aksamit,Grzegorz aksamit@uci.agh.edu.pl
Allen,Richard rallen@apple.com
Bae,Hansoo bhs@hansung.kotel.co.kr
Balasubramanian,Naren naren@tekig1.pen.tek.com
Balogh,John jdb@ecl.psu.edu
Bastanier,Christophe bastaeni@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
Beal,Stewart u009@csx.cciw.ca
Belanger,Phil [pbelange@xircom.com]
Bennett,John bennett@cis.dsto.gov.au
Benningfield,Robert benningf@aur.alcatel.com
BHATTI,ANWAAR bhatti@eecs.ucdavis.edu
Bitzko,Joe jbitzko@shell.portal.com
Boer,Jan jan.boer@utrecht.ncr.com
Boop,Gregory boop%aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com
Bradley,Michael bradley@mdd.comm.mot.com
Brehove,Richard richardb@blackhole.ind.trw.com
Buaas,Robert buaas@nosc.mil
Buchholz,Dale drbuchholz@mot.com
Budd,Richard BUDD%CSPGAS11@helios.edvz.univie.ac.at
Burke,Chris burke@mdd.comm.mot.com
Burnham,Macklin macklin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Busarow,Dan dan@dpcsys.org
Butte,Manish mjb@cs.brown.edu
Carey,Joe joe@lobos.colorado.edu
Cavallaro,Mark mcavalla@hfm.alt.ga.us
Chang,Rong-Feng rchang@eembox.ncku.edu.tw:yes
Chan,Kee kee@das.harvard.edu
Cheah,Jonathon JCHEAH@oscar.hns.com
CHEN,Kwang-Cheng chenkc@ee.nthu.edu.tw
Chen,Steve stevec@tais.com
Chevillat,Pierre pch@zurich.ibm.com
Christensen,John christense@jmb.ads.com
Corbitt,Mark mark_a_corbitt@hfccm5.intel.com
Cox,Ben <thoth@uiuc.edu>
Crawley,Philip philc@macs.mcgill.ee.ca
Davies,Bill bill_davies@wes.mot.com
Davies,Michele michele.davies@dartmouth.edu
Deane,John jdeane@rp.csiro.au
Decker,Jack ac388@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
Dembla,Rajiv Dembla@ed.ecn.purdue.edu
Devalla,Badarinath devalla@ee.tamu.edu
Diepstraten,Wim Wim.Diepstraten@utrecht.ncr.com
Djossou,Coco Coco.Djossou@sophia.inria.fr
Dormer,John aj@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Doss,Kevin doss@wes.mot.com
Dupont,Pierre dupont@mdd.comm.mot.com
Dutkiewicz,Marek dutkiew@mdd.comm.mot.com
EASTMAN,Paul p.eastman@compmail.com
Eldridge,Bill bill@cognet.ucla.edu:Yes
Ellison,Dell ellisond@rtsg.mot.com
ENG,JOHN eng@took.enet.lkg.dec.com
Fasbender,Andreas andreas@informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Filbrun,Lonnie Lonnie_Filbrun@az.stratus.com
Fleischer,Christian chris@parsytec.de
Flores,Christopher chrisf@tcs.com
Fox,John foxjo@ecn.purdue.edu
Freeburg,Thomas freeburg@res.wes.mot.com
Funk,Gregory funk@mdd.comm.mot.com
Gallager,Marian marian@mobdig.ncal.mobdig.com
Gallagher,Jon jon@mobdig.ncal.mobdig.com
Gardner,Tom tgg@hplb.hpl.hp.com
Gauthier,Robert robert.gauthier@nb.rockwell.com
Gerhards,Ron gerhards@mdd.comm.mot.com
Gix,Brian gix@mdd.comm.mot.com
Go,Paul pj@oxy.edu
Gould,Mark mgould@next3.corp.mot.com
Graham,Jim jim@n5ial.mythical.com
Gregg,Lynne lynne.gregg@mccaw.com
Hampton,David hampton@mdd.comm.mot.com
Hanson,Bruce bruce@uswnvg.com
Harris,Steve harris@kraft.apdev.cs.mci.com
Heide,Carolyn 71041.3262@compuserve.com
Helliwell,Colin colh@lincoln.gpsemi.com
Herbison,B.J. herbison@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com
Hermanns,Oliver oli@informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Hiroshi,SHIGENO shigeno@myo.inst.keio.ac.jp
Ingall,Jennifer ingall@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Jiang,Hua jhua@sbee.sunysb.edu
Jones,Derek djones@prubank.com
Jones,Joel jjones@uiuc.edu
Khan,Irfan khan@erg.sri.com
Khayata,Ellen ellenk@apple.com
Klemets,Anders klemets@cs.columbia.edu
Knauerhase,Joyce jknauerh@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Kneuper,Stephen kneuper@chpc.utexas.edu
Koopman,Michael <koopman@ctc.com>
Koopman,Michael mgkst1@unixd3.cis.pitt.edu
Lach,Hong-Yon [lach1@applelink.apple.com]
Lake,Michael jmlake@uiuc.edu
Leclere,Mike msl@orca.rose.hp.com
Lempkowski,Bob Lempkowski@wes.mot.com
Levesque,Allen [levesque@rocky.tntn.gtegsc.com]
Lidl,Kurt lidl@uunet.uu.net
Lui,Alex lui@cc.bellcore.com
Lynn,Andy <alynn@East.DELFIN.COM>
Mahany,Ronald mahanyrl@norand.com
Malloth,Christoph malloth@lse.epfl.ch
Marocchi,Jim marocchi@rtsg.mot.com
Masleid,Michael masleid@pa881a.inland.com
Mehrtens,Thomas Mehrtens_T@msm.cdx.mot.com
Miller,Richard rick@bcm.tmc.edu
Mitchell,Jason mitch@virginia.edu
Mitra,FIRST_NAME_UNKNOWN mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us
Miura,Akira miura@santa.tadw.panasonic.com
Moffatt,Hamish <hamish@cloud.apana.org.au>
Moors,Tim tim@atri.curtin.edu.au
Morrison,Darren x10059@email.mot.com
Moselen,Ken. moselenk@ccc.govt.nz
NAME_UNKNOWN,user1 user0001@hdtv.ee.ncku.edu.tw
Neugebauer,Shawn spn@ideas.com
Nigel,Lemur nlemur@eecs.umich.edu
Nikolich,Paul nikolich@interlan.interlan.com:yes
Novosel,Sinisa sinisa@hprd26a.cern.ch
Oberlander,Lewis lbo@mot.com
Onodera,Keith keitho@eecs.Berkeley.EDU
Panagopoulos,Demos dimos@csi.forth.gr
Parghi,Amit parghi@cs.uiuc.edu
Park,Tim tpark@mipos3.intel.com
Pascoe,Dave pascoe@rocky.tntn.gtegsc.com
Patrick,Gonia gonia@ssdc.honeywell.com
Pearce,Mike pearce@hook.dignet.corp.mot.com
Pearson,Robert Robert.Pearson@njackn.com
Pulkka,Aaron pulkka@cs.washington.edu
Quirt,Alan aquirt@bnr.ca
Randle,Bill billr@saab.cna.tek.com
Ransome,Peter pdr@symbionics.co.uk
Robatino,Evan erobatino@attmail.att.com
Robinson,Paul TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
Robson,Andrew uswnvg!arobson@uunet.UU.NET
Rogers,Steve srogers@tad.eds.com
Rothenberg,Michael mrot@lannet.com
Rune,Torben Torben.T.R.P.Rune@BRUNE.BRUNE.dk400.dk
Ryan,Sean fsspr@aurora.alaska.edu
Samsegger,Wolfgang Wolfgang.Samsegger@kapsch.co.at
Samson,Dolly DSAMSON@cc.weber.edu
Sayes,Ahmad sayes@sun1.atitech.ca
Scaldeferri,Leon lsscald@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Schear,Steve schear@cylink.com
Schuessler,Jim jim@berlioz.nsc.com
Schulz,Ed eds@mtdcr@att.com
Sharnoff,David muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us
Sheng,Max maxs@tais.com
Simmons,John simmons@mobdig.com
Sivitz,Steven 0005251115@mcimail.com
Smith,Joe jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM
Smits,Bram bram@fangorn.hacktic.nl
Snyder,Joseph jsnyder@rock.concert.net
Spear,Geoffrey gspear+@cmu.edu
Starta,John tosh!starta@enuucp.eas.asu.edu
Steedman,Richard rajs@roke.co.uk
Stephenson,Dale steph@cs.uiuc.edu
Sterkel,Terry tsterkel@attmail.com
Subbarao,Ravi subbarao@NMSU.Edu
Sward,David sward+@cmu.edu
Taksar,Maxime mmt@RedBrick.COM
Taylor,Bruce blt+@cmu.edu
Taylor,Larry larry@apple.com
tofigh,Tom ttofigh@saturn.eng.cwc.com
Tran,Hoa-Kien tran@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
Travis,Eric travis@gateway.mitre.org
Tsim,T.H. tsjoit@solist.htsa.aha.nl
Van_Beveren,David dvb@cypress.West.Sun.COM
VanDerJagt,Lourens kiilvdj@attmail.com:Yes
Vestrich,Mark mark_d_vestrich@ccm.hf.intel.com
Vogel,Bob RXV9839@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Walker,David dwalker@bnr.ca
Walvis,Dick dickw@bodean.nsc.com
Wang,FIRST_NAME_UNKNOWN n2680156@eeup1.eeup1
Warfel,Thomas tew+@cs.cmu.edu
Watanapongse,Pirawat pw@cacs.usl.edu
White,RP rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil
white,sarah swhite@qualcomm.com
Wolff,Richard rsw@thumper.bellcore.com
WOLISZ,Adam wolisz@fokus.berlin.gmd.dbp.de
Woodbury,Gregory ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us
Wu,Geng geng@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca
Yampolsky,Franck yams@sahiela.inria.fr
Yau,Hun huny@cco.caltech.edu
Young,Gary young@mdd.comm.mot.com
Zabolotzky,Scott saz@diablo.dignet.corp.mot.com
Zurcher,Rodd rbz@hook.dignet.corp.mot.com
TOTAL NO VOTES FOR CREATION OF comp.std.wireless
Name E-Mail Address
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Barr,Doug barr@spot.Colorado.EDU
Bender,Craig renfield!bender@ole.cdac.com
Cline,Ernest cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu:
Cooper,Jonathan <jlcooper@sacam.oren.ortn.edu>
Fortt,J. jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org
Hartman,Shane shane@spr.com
Mughal,A mughal@alumni.caltech.edu
Nesbitt,Murray mjn@pseudo.uucp
Olson,Eric <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
Petro,Herbert hmpetro@uncc.edu
Schwarz,Georg georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de
Umbright,Guy vagrant@vpnet.chi.il.us:no
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