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From atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil Mon Mar 29 20:41:32 1993
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From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.misc
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.hp reorganizaion and comp.unix.hpux.* groups
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Date: 29 Mar 1993 19:31:39 -0500
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This is a formal USENET Request for Discussion. This proposal will
be discussed in news.groups for at least three weeks after this is
posted to news.announce.newgroups. At the end of that time if the
proposer feels there exists consensus on name and charter, a formal
Call for Votes might be made. Each proposal will of course be voted
on separately if that time comes.
BACKGROUND:
The existing newsgroup comp.sys.hp has a high volume of traffic
which is on diverse subjects. Volume is so high as to make it
difficult for readers to follow items of interest, even with threaded
newsreaders and kill files. It is proposed to split the newsgroup by
topic into more managable pieces.
FORMAL PROPOSAL:
Create comp.unix.hpux.programmer
HP Unix is sufficiently ancient (System V, Release 2.2) that
porting software to it is a highly non-trivial task. Similarly
writing portable software for it is difficult. There are
already significant programmer/porting/development postings
on HPUX. Since the USENET convention is to create such
groups with the name ~.programmer, this is the proposed name.
Create comp.unix.hpux.apps
Many users and postings relate only to applications which
happen to run under HPUX. Many of these readers are only
interested in applications discussions. Since the USENET
convention is to create such groups with the name ~.apps,
this is the proposed name.
Create comp.unix.hpux.misc
This will be the catch-all group for HPUX discussions that
don't relate to either of the above groups. Again, the
proposed name follows USENET conventions on naming.
Create comp.sys.hp.pc
There are regular if low volume postings relating to HP's
MSDOS-compatible personal computers. It is proposed to
split them off since their discussions are substantially
separate from other discussions.
Create comp.sys.hp.printers
HP printers are popular and are often discussed both
in comp.periphs* and in comp.sys.hp. This splits the
printer discussions out from the HP computer discussions
which is appropriate because many people have an HP
printer but not an HP computer.
Rename comp.sys.hp TO comp.sys.hp.misc
This is for discussion of other HP products (e.g. instruments)
and for HP-related discussions that do not fit in any of
the above group. The renaming is proposed to conform to
the standard USENET practice on such catch-all groups.
Having it at the same hierarchy as other newsgroups in
the same tree has been shown over the years to reduce the
amount of inappropriate cross-postings.
Comments should be posted to news.groups and so followups are
directed there. Please post rather than sending me email.
--
Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
From hudel@waterloo.hp.com Mon Jul 26 12:21:04 1993
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From: Christopher Hudel <hudel@waterloo.hp.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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Date: 26 Jul 1993 11:50:47 -0400
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION
This is the first "Request for Discussion" for the restructuring
of the comp.sys.hp hierarchy. The current proposal is to split
"comp.sys.hp" into relevant sub-groups.
Proposed New comp.sys.hp hierarchy
----------------------------------
Because of increased traffic on comp.sys.hp and in keeping with the spirit
of other popular comp.sys.* newsgroups, I propose comp.sys.hp be split
into the following sub-groups:
comp.sys.hp.announce [Moderated]
- a moderated forum for HP product/service announcements that would
be of interest to people currently reading any *hp* newsgroup.
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard system's
hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
*any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
discussed in comp.sys.hp48.
comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
- an open area for the dicussion of software applications running on
any HP platform.
comp.sys.hp.admin [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration issues
pertaining to HP products.
comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
- a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
Notes
-----
The idea of restructuring comp.sys.hp gets hashed and rehashed a few
times each year, but nothing is ever done formally. Hopefully, with
this formal document, some needed work can be accomplshed in comp.sys.hp.
This RFD appears in comp.sys.hp, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups.
All discussion is encouraged to take place ONLY on the "news.groups"
newsgroup and I have directed follow-ups there.
Call For Votes
--------------
The CFV will most likely commence Wednesday, September 1, 1993. Since
the proposal involves a major restructuring of the comp.sys.hp
hierarchy, the RFD will last around 31 days. Because of my support for
this restructuring and my current affiliation with Hewlett Packard, I
will be asking a 3rd party to perform the actual vote counting.
I plan to post the CFV to the same groups as this RFD and will not be
mailing either the CFV or this RFD to any mailing list(s), although I
encourage you to privately e-mail this RFD to any interested parties.
From hudel@waterloo.hp.com Tue Aug 3 15:54:17 1993
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From: Christopher Hudel <hudel@waterloo.hp.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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Date: 3 Aug 1993 14:19:39 -0400
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[Please note the changes made to the proposal in lieu of recent |
discussions, indicated by the change bars on the right -------------->>] |
2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION
This is the second "Request for Discussions" for the restructuring of the
the comp.sys.hp hierarchy. The current proposal is to split "comp.sys.hp"
into relevant sub-groups.
Proposed New comp.sys.hp hierarchy
----------------------------------
In keeping with other popular comp.sys.* newsgroups, I propose comp.sys.hp
be split in to the following sub-groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard system's
hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
*any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
discussed in comp.sys.hp48.
comp.sys.hp.software [Unmoderated] |
- an open area for the dicussion of software applications running on |
any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions |
be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and |
comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups. |
comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and |
other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system. |
comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and |
other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system. |
comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
- a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
- HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly. |
Notes
-----
The idea of restructuring comp.sys.hp gets hashed and rehashed a few
times each year, but nothing is ever done formally. Hopefully, with
this formal document, some needed work can be accomplshed in comp.sys.hp.
This RFD appears in comp.sys.hp, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups.
All discussion is encouraged to take place ONLY on the "news.groups"
newsgroup and I have directed follow-ups there.
I am reluctant to add new groups "for future expansion" or groups to |
field questions that sometimes arise -- I feel the articles should be |
posted to comp.sys.hp.misc and then, if/when c.s.h.misc becomes dominated |
by another non-misc topic, a new newsgroup be created later. There is |
some virtue, imho, to not having too many newsgroups. (I recall that the |
'guide for newsgroups' suggests not creating a newsgroup untill the volume|
is ~20/day -- do we really get 20 articles/day on Vectras or Printers? |
The comp.sys.hp.{mpe|hpux} are NOT named comp.os.{mpe|hpux} since the |
intended discussion in the c.s.hp.* groups focus on MORE than just the |
os -- I am in fact, using the os to distinguish between two major types |
of HP users, since most people *know* they're running HPUX or MPE but |
aren't always aware that one is a 9000 computer and the other a 3000. |
Also note, the *.{mpe|hpux} newsgroups INCLUDE administration so there |
no longer exists a proposal for a comp.sys.hp.admin newsgroup. |
Call For Votes
--------------
The CFV will most likely commence Wednesday, September 1, 1993. Since
the proposal involves a major restructuring of the comp.sys.hp
hierarchy, the RFD will last around 31 days. Because of my support for
this restructuring and my current affiliation with Hewlett Packard, I |
haved asked for a 3rd party to perform the actual vote counting and |
Ron Dippold (@qualcomm.com -- but don't send him e-mail!) has agreed to |
impartially and objectively run the vote. |
I plan to post the CFV to the same groups as this RFD and will not be
mailing either the CFV or this RFD to any mailing list(s), although I
encourage you to privately e-mail this RFD to any interested parties.
From hudel@waterloo.hp.com Fri Aug 13 20:13:12 1993
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From: Christopher Hudel <hudel@waterloo.hp.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 3rd RFD: comp.sys.hp.* reorganization
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Date: 13 Aug 1993 19:16:41 -0400
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[Everything is going "smoothly" and this is the last RFD that I'll be
posting -- watch for the CFV near the end of August or very early
September. Thanks for your opinions! -Chris.]
[Please note the changes made to the proposal in lieu of recent |
discussions, indicated by the change bars on the right -------------->>] |
3rd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION
This is the third "Request for Discussions" for the restructuring of the
the comp.sys.hp hierarchy. The current proposal is to split "comp.sys.hp"
into relevant sub-groups.
Proposed New comp.sys.hp hierarchy
----------------------------------
In keeping with other popular comp.sys.* newsgroups, I propose comp.sys.hp
be split in to the following sub-groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard system's
hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
*any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
discussed in comp.sys.hp48.
comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated] |
- an open area for the dicussion of software & applications running on |
any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions |
be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and |
comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups. |
comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.
comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.
comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
- a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
- HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.
Notes
-----
The idea of restructuring comp.sys.hp gets hashed and rehashed a few
times each year, but nothing is ever done formally. Hopefully, with
this formal document, some needed work can be accomplshed in comp.sys.hp.
This RFD appears in comp.sys.hp, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups.
All discussion is encouraged to take place ONLY on the "news.groups"
newsgroup and I have directed follow-ups there.
I am reluctant to add new groups "for future expansion" or groups to
field questions that sometimes arise -- I feel the articles should be
posted to comp.sys.hp.misc and then, if/when c.s.h.misc becomes dominated
by another non-misc topic, a new newsgroup be created later. There is
some virtue, imho, to not having too many newsgroups. (I recall that the
'guide for newsgroups' suggests not creating a newsgroup untill the volume
is ~20/day -- do we really get 20 articles/day on Vectras or Printers?
The comp.sys.hp.{mpe|hpux} are NOT named comp.os.{mpe|hpux} since the
intended discussion in the c.s.hp.* groups focus on MORE than just the
os -- I am in fact, using the os to distinguish between two major types
of HP users, since most people *know* they're running HPUX or MPE but
aren't always aware that one is a 9000 computer and the other a 3000.
Also note, the *.{mpe|hpux} newsgroups INCLUDE administration so there
no longer exists a proposal for a comp.sys.hp.admin newsgroup.
Call For Votes
--------------
The CFV will most likely commence on or before Wednesday, September 1, 1993.
Since the proposal involves a major restructuring of the comp.sys.hp
hierarchy, the RFD will last around 31 days. Because of my support for
this restructuring and my current affiliation with Hewlett Packard, I
haved asked for a 3rd party to perform the actual vote counting and
Ron Dippold (@qualcomm.com -- but don't send him e-mail!) has agreed to
impartially and objectively run the vote.
I plan to post the CFV to the same groups as this RFD and will not be
mailing either the CFV or this RFD to any mailing list(s), although I
encourage you to privately e-mail this RFD to any interested parties.
From ikluft@amdahl.com Fri Sep 3 15:49:21 1993
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From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)
COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION
Unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on 2 Oct 1993.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For questions
about the proposed groups, contact hudel@waterloo.hp.com (Christopher Hudel).
The official distribution channels for the CFVs in this vote will be the
newsgroups news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and comp.sys.hp. It will
also be available via an e-mail server at cs-hp-cfv-request@amdahl.com (to
answer requests for copies of the CFV for the vote-taker.)
CHARTERS
--------
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard systems
hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
*any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
discussed in comp.sys.hp48.
comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
- an open area for the discussion of software & applications running on
any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions
be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and
comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.
comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.
comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.
comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
- a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
- HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.
Note: comp.sys.hp.misc is proposed to replace comp.sys.hp.
STANDARD VOTE FORM
------------------
Please REPLY to this message via MAIL. (Posts to a newsgroup are invalid.)
The voting address is
cs-hp-vote@amdahl.com
Simply replying by MAIL to this message should work. You will receive a
reply within a few days after your votes are received which indicates
how the voting software thinks you voted - please mail corrections
immediately to the vote-taker: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS. However, please remove the rest of the CFV
>from your reply in order to reduce the disk space requirements to store it.
Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not modify the group names. Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program. If it can't determine your vote you will be asked
to re-vote.
For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the
same line. Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For
are equivalent, as are No and Against. Capitalization is not important.
If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space
blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters
">" that your reply inserts.
You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or "I
vote against all of them." Please use the form.
You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.
Later votes replace previous ones. Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.
Standard guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of
how many accounts you have. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of
all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation.
Summary: Fill in your voting choices on the lines with the newsgroup
names. Don't delete anything on the ballot form. Remove the rest of
the CFV from your reply. Limit one vote per person.
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.sys.hp reorganization Ballot [C-S-HP-BALLOT-0001]
If your mail software does not add your name to your user ID give
your name here (on this line):
Your Vote Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes this.is.an.example.group
>no this.is.another.example.group
this.is.an.example.abstention
comp.sys.hp.hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps
comp.sys.hp.hpux
comp.sys.hp.mpe
comp.sys.hp.misc
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
This is the 1st of 3 CFVs which will appear during the voting period.
Due to the potential size of this vote, the vote-taker has elected to
follow the trend toward "bounce-only" acknowledgements. All votes will
be acknowledged via e-mail. Any acknowledgements which are returned as
undeliverable will be listed in the 2nd and 3rd CFVs so that the voters
know their votes were received.
During the voting period, there will not be any "mass-acks" which would
have listed the sources of all the votes received. Mass-acks have been
increasingly viewed as a waste of network bandwidth when e-mail
acknowledgements are also in use.
From ikluft@amdahl.com Fri Sep 10 12:44:40 1993
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From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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Date: 9 Sep 1993 13:17:45 -0400
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2nd CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)
COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION
Unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on 2 Oct 1993.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For questions
about the proposed groups, contact hudel@waterloo.hp.com (Christopher Hudel).
The official distribution channels for the CFVs in this vote are the
newsgroups news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and comp.sys.hp. It is
also available via an e-mail server at cs-hp-cfv-request@amdahl.com (to
answer requests for copies of the CFV for the vote-taker.)
A "bounce acknowledgement" is included at the end of this CFV for cases where
e-mail acknowledgements were returned to the vote-taker.
CHARTERS
--------
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard systems
hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
*any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
discussed in comp.sys.hp48.
comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
- an open area for the discussion of software & applications running on
any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions
be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and
comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.
comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.
comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.
comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
- a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
- HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.
Note: comp.sys.hp.misc is proposed to replace comp.sys.hp.
STANDARD VOTE FORM
------------------
Please REPLY to this message via MAIL. (Posts to a newsgroup are invalid.)
The voting address is
cs-hp-vote@amdahl.com
Simply replying by MAIL to this message should work. You will receive a
reply within a few days after your votes are received which indicates
how the voting software thinks you voted - please mail corrections
immediately to the vote-taker: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS. However, please remove the rest of the CFV
>from your reply in order to reduce the disk space requirements to store it.
Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not modify the group names. Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program. If it can't determine your vote you will be asked
to re-vote.
For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the
same line. Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For
are equivalent, as are No and Against. Capitalization is not important.
If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space
blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters
">" that your reply inserts.
You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or "I
vote against all of them." Please use the form.
You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.
Later votes replace previous ones. Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.
Standard guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of
how many accounts you have. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of
all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation.
Summary: Fill in your voting choices on the lines with the newsgroup
names. Don't delete anything on the ballot form. Remove the rest of
the CFV from your reply. Limit one vote per person.
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.sys.hp reorganization Ballot [C-S-HP-BALLOT-0002]
If your mail software does not add your name to your user ID give
your name here (on this line):
Your Vote Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes this.is.an.example.group
>no this.is.another.example.group
this.is.an.example.abstention
comp.sys.hp.hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps
comp.sys.hp.hpux
comp.sys.hp.mpe
comp.sys.hp.misc
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
This is the 2nd of 3 CFVs scheduled to appear during the voting period.
comp.sys.hp reorganization Bounce Ack List
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Due to the potential size of this vote, the vote-taker has elected to
follow the trend toward "bounce-only" acknowledgements. All votes are
acknowledged via e-mail. The acknowledgements to the following voters
were returned as undeliverable:
bef@nwu.edu
bob@remlap.UCSD.EDU
gspear+@CMU.EDU
jeff@hpmvd069
lombard@u.washington.edu
poh@freitag
viswswrn@titan.Princeton.EDU
The people listed above have submitted *valid* votes which have been
counted but could not be acknowledged by e-mail. Anyone who did not
receive an acknowledgement in e-mail or in this bounce ack may try
again to vote. If difficulty continues, contact the vote-taker and/or
your site's e-mail administrator for assistance.
During the voting period, there will not be any "mass-acks". Mass-acks
have been increasingly viewed as a waste of network bandwidth when e-mail
acknowledgements are also in use.
From ikluft@amdahl.com Thu Sep 16 14:00:44 1993
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From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
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Subject: 3rd CFV: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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3rd CALL FOR VOTES (of 3)
COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION
Unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on 2 Oct 1993.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For questions
about the proposed groups, contact hudel@waterloo.hp.com (Christopher Hudel).
The official distribution channels for the CFVs in this vote are the
newsgroups news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and comp.sys.hp. It is
also available via an e-mail server at cs-hp-cfv-request@amdahl.com (to
answer requests for copies of the CFV for the vote-taker.)
A "bounce acknowledgement" is included at the end of this CFV for cases where
e-mail acknowledgements were returned to the vote-taker.
CHARTERS
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comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard systems
hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
*any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
discussed in comp.sys.hp48.
comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
- an open area for the discussion of software & applications running on
any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions
be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and
comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.
comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.
comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
- an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.
comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
- a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
- HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.
Note: comp.sys.hp.misc is proposed to replace comp.sys.hp.
STANDARD VOTE FORM
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Your Vote Group
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>no this.is.another.example.group
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comp.sys.hp.hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps
comp.sys.hp.hpux
comp.sys.hp.mpe
comp.sys.hp.misc
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This is the 3rd of 3 CFVs scheduled to appear during the voting period.
comp.sys.hp reorganization Bounce Ack List
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acknowledged via e-mail. The acknowledgements to the following voters
were returned as undeliverable:
JOHN_W%VULCAN@mentec.ie
bef@nwu.edu
bob@remlap.UCSD.EDU
cs.spool.wisc.edu!madnix!jaeger%nicmad.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
gspear+@CMU.EDU
hansen+@osu.edu
jeff@hpmvd069
johns@tanker.utaccs-net4.army.mil
lombard@u.washington.edu
poh@freitag
viswswrn@titan.Princeton.EDU
The people listed above have submitted *valid* votes which have been
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your site's e-mail administrator for assistance.
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have been increasingly viewed as a waste of network bandwidth when e-mail
acknowledgements are also in use.
Full results will be posted after the voting period ends.
From ikluft@amdahl.com Tue Oct 5 13:09:43 1993
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From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.hp reorganization passes
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comp.sys.hp reorganization results - 337 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
305 22 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.hp.hardware
288 34 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.hp.apps
307 25 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.hp.hpux
269 30 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.hp.mpe
313 16 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.hp.misc
All the groups passed. If there are no serious objections arising from
vote-taking procedures, the newsgroups will be created 5 days after these
results are posted. comp.sys.hp (replaced by comp.sys.hp.misc) will be
removed on 2 February 1994.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For questions about
votetaking procedures only, contact ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft). For
questions about the new newsgroups, contact hudel@waterloo.hp.com
(Christopher Hudel).
Newsgroup lines for the new newsgroups
comp.sys.hp.hardware Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group
comp.sys.hp reorganization Final Vote Ack
comp.sys.hp.misc -------+
comp.sys.hp.mpe ------+|
comp.sys.hp.hpux -----+||
comp.sys.hp.apps ----+|||
comp.sys.hp.hardware ---+||||
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franl@centerline.com YYYYY
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hv@garbarek.t-informatik.ba-stuttgart.de Henry Vogt YYYYY
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jjuran@lab3.smcm.edu Joshua D. Juran Y---Y
jlcox@msd20.ssc.gov YYYYY
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radle@gizmo.corp.hp.com Andy Radle YYYYY
raj@hpisrdq.cup.hp.com Rick Jones YYYYY
rali@technet.macom.com R A Lichtensteiger YYYYY
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rbw@t12.LANL.GOV Bob Walker YYYYY
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reinke@apple.com Chuck Reinke YYYYY
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richard@hpnzpso1.aus.hp.com Richard Warham YYYYY
richmond@atria.com Mark Richmond YYYYY
richw@hpmpeb19.cup.hp.com Rich Webber YYYYY
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rieger@iue.tuwien.ac.at YYY-Y
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rjohns@bnr.ca Richard (R.) Johns YYYYY
rkunin@hpvclq.vcd.hp.com Rick Kunin YYYYY
roberto@mecasoft.ch Roberto MORRISON YYYYY
roeber@vxcern.cern.ch Frederick G.M. Roeber YYY-Y
roly@redact.uucp Roly Alcock - ROOT Site Administrator Account YYY-Y
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sabre@sabri.pc.my S.M.Sabri S.M.Ismail YYY-Y
salah@mecasoft.ch Salah HADJERES YYYYY
sasebb@unx.sas.com Edmund Burnette YYYYY
sbmn@capella.cup.hp.com Subramanian Seeth YYYYY
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scott@truevision.com Scott Stevens YYYYY
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shane@spr.com Shane Hartman YYYYY
shane@utdallas.edu Shane Davis YYYYY
shawn@sciatl.com Shawn Hayes YYYNY
showalt@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us Scott J. Showalter YYYYY
simmdan@kenya.isu.edu Daniel Simmons YNYYY
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smarry@io.org Smarasderagd Draco NNNNN
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SNODDI@MVS.SAS.COM Dale Ingold YYYYY
sp1jonbl@hugin.his.se Plupp YYYYY
splbndr@netcom.com Ric Goldman YYYYY
spo@LTE.E-TECHNIK.uni-erlangen.de Thomas Sporer YNYYY
srogers@tad.eds.com Steve Rogers YYYNY
ssutton@hposl03.cup.hp.com Steve Sutton YYYYY
Stefan.Lundberg@gd.gu.se Stefan Lundberg YYY-Y
stewartw@cognos.com Stewart Winter ---Y-
stockel@arola.oc.nps.navy.mil Jim Stockel YYYYY
STOKES@RED.sps.mot.com Rod Stokes - VMS & HP-UX System Management - E YYYYY
stroyan@hpstryn.fc.hp.com Mike Stroyan YYYYY
stuart@tivoli.tivoli.com Stuart Jarriel YYYYY
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tgl@netcom.com Tom Lane YYYYY
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treadway@sdxs04.llnl.gov Thomas Treadway YYYYY
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twr@hplb.hpl.hp.com Tony Rush YYYYY
uk1@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de Ulf Kieber YYYYY
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vds7789@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com Vincent D. Skahan YYYYY
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wade@netlink.nix.com Jeff Wade Y-Y--
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