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From SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu Wed Jan 20 22:59:53 1993
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From: Senthil Ramas Kumar <SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: RFD: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganization to comp.sys.x86.*
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
Due to the high traffic in the group comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, I feel that
it is neccessary to split the group. Further, the topics covered in the
discsussion can easily be classified into different categories.
eg: Discussion relating to video,
Discussion relating to hard-drives, floppy drives
I am sure there are many other classifications that we can make based on the
nature of the discussion.
There is a lot of useful information that is there in the group, and I
personally feel that it will be to our mutual benefit, if we can further
classify the group, so that people looking for information can quickly get
to it, instead of having to wade through the myraid of postings.
So, I think, it would be worthwhile to discuss, _how_ we are going to go
about splitting the group.
Some people have already suggested this:
comp.sys.x86.video
comp.sys.x86.drive
comp.sys.x86.hardware (motherboard etc)
Thus, we do away with the "ibm.pc" part. I would like to see a more
definitive discussion along these lines, so we can go about doing what is
necessary.
Kumar
From grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu Tue Aug 31 14:25:19 1993
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From: grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol)
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Subject: RFD: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganization
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******************************************************************
The First REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) on the REORGANIZATION of
COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE
********************************************************(1.4)*****
Note: ALL discussion on this RFD should only take place in
the newsgroup, "news.groups". Post all follow-ups there only.
INTRODUCTION
------------
The need for a reorganization of COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE has
become more urgent as the traffic on the group has steadily
increased over the past few years with the explosion of new,
low-cost hardware available for the IBM-PC, clones, and
Intel-based personal computers.
This newsgroup more often than not has over 200 messages per day
and my kill file is getting bigger than my .newsrc file!! :)
I believe it can be reorganized in a reasonable and logical fashion,
with a minimal of hassle. It consistently ranks in the top 30
newsgroups for most traffic volume on Usenet, as well as obtaining
a similar ranking as one of the most popular newsgroups.
This serves as the formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the
reorganization of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Please take the
time to consider the below reorganization plan thoroughly;
many hours were spent in researching it and putting it
together. Thank you.
----------------------------------------------------------------
The proposed reorganization of COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE follows:
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
hardware discussions that do not fall into any of the
proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions,
drawbacks of one local bus design over another, etc.); and
for the discussion of any computer hardware-related topics
for the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass
a final vote. It is proposed that comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people time to
switch over) if the proposed group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to personal computer video
products, including such items as monitors, video
cards (including Window's accelerator cards, regular
VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards, etc.), hand
scanners, and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to personal computer storage
products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices,
storage media, and any other non-SCSI storage devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to personal computer CD-ROM
hardware. Although many ibm.pc CD-ROMs are SCSI, some
of the more popular and cheaper brands are proprietary.
Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm.pc's is often a
problem for many users, especially in terms of interface
cards, IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not*
be for the discussion of any software that is released
on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently exists,
as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM
drives and cards, alt.* groups get limited propegation,
and no group is currently devoted to CD-ROM drives and the
ibm.pc.hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to modems and communication
devices. Since internal modems and fax cards, like video
cards [see above *.video group], are proprietary to
the (E)ISA bus, this newsgroup is warranted to discuss
the technical merits, questions, and comments on items
such as: internal modems, voice mail cards, fax/modem cards,
serial cards, 16450/16550 and other UARTS, etc.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to vendors of complete
hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from
current customers, troubleshooting system problems,
and information about various system configurations.
------------------------------------------------
The following topics were purposely LEFT OUT because they
are already covered by existing newsgroups:
printers -> comp.periphs.printers
SCSI devices -> comp.periphs.scsi
networking -> comp.sys.novell, comp.dcom.lans
soundcards -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
"multimedia" -> too broad a topic and would invite
too much unnecessary crossposting
------------------------------------------------
SUMMARY
-------
By renaming the current group and adding a mere 5 more newsgroups
to the hierarchy, I believe that comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
will be made more easily readable in the near future. The
reorganization of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware has long been overdue
and this proposal has taken great pains to make the reorganization
as simple, yet logical and comprehensive, as possible.
Notice that no new comp.sys.* hierarchy is proposed, since
the current one still is valid and makes sense (eg.- IBM makes more
than personal computers and something like "Intel-based" is no more
accurate than the current name [not all 80x86 chips are Intel]).
It may not look pretty, but it works! (It is noted that some versions
of news reject 6-level group names, but that this can be manually
overridden.)
An argument could be made to better utilize the comp.periphs.*
hierarchy, but these newsgroups are for non-computer-specific
hardware peripherals. IDE drives, their controller cards,
Window's accelerator cards, and internal fax/modems
are definately pc-compatible-specific; printers and (supposedly :)
SCSI devices are not. It is for this reason these new newsgroups
are proposed under the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* hierarchy rather
than comp.periphs.*.
Although the proposed groups *exclude* all SCSI devices (on purpose,
since comp.periphs.scsi already exists), it is likely that questions
on SCSI hard drives, CD-ROMs, etc, will be cross-posted to the relevant
*.hardware group as well as comp.periphs.scsi, since often the
questions relate to the *interface* between their pc-compatible
and the SCSI device. This overlap is something that can be expected.
------------------------------------------------
Notes on this RFD
-----------------
This RFD is being posted on August 31, 1993 to the following groups:
news.groups
news.announce.newgroups
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
comp.periphs
comp.periphs.printers
comp.periphs.scsi
alt.cd-rom
and may be freely distributed to any other groups or mailing lists
where it might be of relevance. Please leave the Followup-To:
header intact. Persons not able to communicate or post directly
to Usenet may mail their comments or questions to:
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu
** *ALL* pertinent discussion relating to this RFD **
** should take place on NEWS.GROUPS, hence I have **
** directed follow-ups there. I strongly urge readers **
** to limit their discussions on this RFD **
** to NEWS.GROUPS, where they belong. **
Call for Votes
--------------
The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 30 days on
September 30, 1993.
The CFV is expected to be conducted by an independent vote-taker,
arranged through Ron Dippold.
The CFV will be sent out to the same newsgroups (listed above)
as the RFD was sent to. Details on voting will be posted in the CFV.
-jmg
--
John M. Grohol, M.S.
Center for Psychological Studies
Nova University, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu, grohol@psy.psych.nova.edu
From grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu Mon Sep 13 16:09:02 1993
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From: grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu (John M. Grohol)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganization
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******************************************************************
The Second REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) on the REORGANIZATION of
COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE
********************************************************(2.2)*****
Note: ALL discussion on this RFD should only take place in
the newsgroup, "news.groups". Post all follow-ups there only.
** New items added since the last RFD
** are marked with a double star (**).
** Two additional newsgroups under the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
** hierarchy have been proposed and are included in this RFD.
INTRODUCTION
------------
The need for a reorganization of COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE has
become more urgent as the traffic on the group has steadily
increased over the past few years with the explosion of new,
low-cost hardware available for the IBM-PC, clones, and
Intel-based personal computers.
This newsgroup more often than not has over 200 messages per day
and my kill file is getting bigger than my .newsrc file!! :)
I believe it can be reorganized in a reasonable and logical fashion,
with a minimal of hassle. It consistently ranks in the top 30
newsgroups for most traffic volume on Usenet, as well as obtaining
a similar ranking as one of the most popular newsgroups.
This serves as the formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the
reorganization of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Please take the
time to consider the below reorganization plan thoroughly;
many hours were spent in researching it and putting it
together. Thank you.
----------------------------------------------------------------
The proposed reorganization of COMP.SYS.IBM.PC.HARDWARE follows:
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will take the place of the current
catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various
hardware discussions that do not fall into any of the
proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions,
drawbacks of one local bus design over another, etc.); and
for the discussion of any computer hardware-related topics
for the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass
a final vote. It is proposed that comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
be removed after a 3-month period (to give people time to
switch over) if the proposed group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to personal computer video
products, including such items as monitors, video
cards (including Window's accelerator cards, regular
VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards, etc.),
and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to personal computer storage
products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices,
storage media, and most other storage devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to personal computer CD-ROM hardware.
Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm-pc's is often a
problem for many users, especially in terms of interface
cards, IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not*
be for the discussion of any software that is released
on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently exists,
as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM
drives and cards, alt.* groups get limited propegation,
and no group is currently devoted to CD-ROM drives and the
ibm-pc-hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
** [Charter has been edited for clarity.]
** Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
** topics directly related to modems and communication
** devices. Topics dealing with internal, as well as
** external modems, fax/modems, and voice-mail cards
** will be discussed. Differences and technical questions
** dealing with serial port UARTS (eg.- 16450/16550, etc.),
** serial ports, IRQ's, etc. are also warranted here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
topics directly related to vendors of complete
hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from
current customers, troubleshooting system problems,
and information about various system configurations.
---------
** Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking (unmoderated)
**
** Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
** topics directly related to the hardware and technical
** aspects of networking cards and equipment.
** Troubleshooting network interface problems, getting
** network devices properly configured, and discussions
** on new network technologies and solutions
** are appropriate here.
---------
** Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (unmoderated)
**
** Charter: This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those
** topics directly related to computer chips and
** technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include
** memory chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system
** chips from Intel (such as the Pentium) or other
** chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include
** chip pricing & availability, clock speeds
** (eg.- overclocking), and future chip releases.
------------------------------------------------
The following topics were purposely LEFT OUT because they
are already covered by existing newsgroups:
printers -> comp.periphs.printers
SCSI devices -> comp.periphs.scsi
networking -> comp.sys.novell, comp.dcom.lans
soundcards -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
"multimedia" -> too broad a topic and would invite
too much unnecessary crossposting
** After discussion, it was decided to include networking
** in the current RFD, as well as drop the "non-SCSI"
** clauses in the proposed csiph.storage and csiph.cd-rom groups.
------------------------------------------------
SUMMARY
-------
By renaming the current group and adding a mere 7 more newsgroups
to the hierarchy, I believe that comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
will be made more easily readable in the near future. The
reorganization of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware has long been overdue
and this proposal has taken great pains to make the reorganization
as simple, yet logical and comprehensive, as possible.
Notice that no new comp.sys.* hierarchy is proposed, since
the current one still is valid and makes sense (eg.- IBM makes more
than personal computers and something like "Intel-based" is no more
accurate than the current name [not all 80x86 chips are Intel]).
It may not look pretty, but it works! (It is noted that some versions
of news reject 6-level group names, but that this can be manually
overridden, as was done for the csip.games hierarchy.)
An argument could be made to better utilize the comp.periphs.*
hierarchy, but these newsgroups are for non-computer-specific
hardware peripherals. IDE drives, their controller cards,
Window's accelerator cards, and internal fax/modems
are definately pc-compatible-specific; printers and (supposedly :)
SCSI devices are not. It is for this reason these new newsgroups
are proposed under the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.* hierarchy rather
than comp.periphs.*.
------------------------------------------------
Notes on this RFD
-----------------
This is the 2nd RFD and is being posted on September 13, 1993 to
the following newsgroups:
news.groups
news.announce.newgroups
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
comp.periphs
comp.periphs.printers
comp.periphs.scsi
alt.cd-rom
The first RFD was posted on August 31, 1993 to the above groups.
It may be freely distributed to any other groups or mailing lists
where it might be of relevance. Please leave the Followup-To:
header intact. Persons not able to communicate or post directly
to Usenet may mail their comments or questions to:
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu
* *ALL* pertinent discussion relating to this RFD *
* should take place on NEWS.GROUPS, hence I have *
* directed follow-ups there. I strongly urge readers *
* to limit their discussions on this RFD *
* to NEWS.GROUPS, where they belong. *
Call for Votes
--------------
The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 17 days on
September 30, 1993.
The CFV is expected to be conducted by an independent vote-taker,
arranged through Ron Dippold.
The CFV will be sent out to the same newsgroups (listed above)
as the RFD was sent to. Details on voting will be posted in the CFV.
------------------------------------------------
-jmg
--
John M. Grohol, M.S.
Center for Psychological Studies
Nova University, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu, grohol@psy.psych.nova.edu
From iwj@cam-orl.co.uk Tue Oct 5 13:07:55 1993
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From: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk (Ian Jackson)
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Subject: CFV: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
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CALL FOR VOTES
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
This is a Call for Votes regarding the proposed replacement of
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware with the following unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Miscellaneous PC hardware topics.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Video cards & monitors for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Hard drives & other PC storage devices.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm Modems & communication cards for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Whole IBM PC computer & clone systems.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking Network hardware & equipment for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Processor, cache, memory chips, etc.
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on the 26th of October 1993.
Please see below for voting instructions and contact information.
CHARTERS
========
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of miscellaneous topics related to the ibm-pc.
Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc will take the place of the current catch-all
newsgroup for topics related to various hardware discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions, drawbacks
of one local bus design over another, etc.); and for the discussion of any
computer hardware-related topics for the below proposed new newsgroups which do
not pass a final vote. Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware will be removed after a
3-month period (to give people time to switch over) if this new group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of video cards & monitors for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer video products, including such items as monitors, video cards
(including Window's accelerator cards, regular VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards,
etc.), and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of hard drives & storage devices for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer storage products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices, storage media, and most other storage
devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer CD-ROM hardware. Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm-pc's
is often a problem for many users, especially in terms of interface cards,
IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not* be for the discussion of any
software that is released on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently
exists, as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM drives and cards,
alt.* groups get limited propegation, and no group is currently devoted to
CD-ROM drives and the ibm-pc-hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of modems & communication cards for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
modems and communication devices. Topics dealing with internal, as well as
external modems, fax/modems, and voice-mail cards will be discussed.
Differences and technical questions dealing with serial port UARTS (eg.-
16450/16550, etc.), serial ports, IRQ's, etc. are also warranted here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of ibm-pc computer & clone manufacturers.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
vendors of complete hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from current customers,
troubleshooting system problems, and information about various system
configurations.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of network hardware & equipment for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
the hardware and technical aspects of networking cards and equipment.
Troubleshooting network interface problems, getting network devices properly
configured, and discussions on new network technologies and solutions are
appropriate here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of processor, cache & memory chips for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
computer chips and technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include memory
chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system chips from Intel (such as the
Pentium) or other chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include chip
pricing & availability, clock speeds (eg.- overclocking), and future chip
releases.
VOTING INSTRUCTIONS
===================
YOUR VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY A PROGRAM. Please use the template below and
follow the instructions exactly. If you do not do so your ballot may not be
understood and would then be returned to you with the votes uncounted.
Send a mail message to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk, containing this in the body:
start-parsing csiph
name <your name - not your email address>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips <yes/no/abstain>
end-parsing
Please note:
* Delete and replace the <...> parts completely, including the < >'s.
* Everything must be spelled correctly, including the newsgroup names.
* Do not omit any of the eleven lines above. Your name must be supplied.
* Do not insert any blank lines or line breaks.
* Please don't quote the whole of this Call for Votes in your reply !
You will receive a personal acknowledgement by email.
You can request a copy of this Call for Votes by sending;
start-parsing csiph
send-cfv
end-parsing
You may only vote from one account. If you vote from several accounts in an
attempt at fraud all your votes may be discounted and your name published.
Your vote must be received by 23:59:59GMT on October the 26th 1993. There will
be two more Calls for Votes; each will include a list of people whose votes
were counted but whose acknowledgements were returned as undeliverable.
CONTACT INFORMATION
===================
This vote is being handled by Ian Jackson as a neutral third party. Please
direct all questions regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems to
iwj@cam-orl.co.uk. NOTE! Please send your *vote* to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk
^^^^
Please direct all questions regarding the proposed new groups to the proposer,
John M. Grohol <grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu>.
--
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vote taker for the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
votes to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk correspondance to iwj@cam-orl.co.uk
From iwj@cam-orl.co.uk Thu Oct 7 10:33:01 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk (Ian Jackson)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.periphs,comp.periphs.printers,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.cd-rom
Subject: CFV CORRECTION: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
Supersedes: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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Date: 7 Oct 1993 09:37:43 -0400
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CALL FOR VOTES
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
[[ news.announce.newgroups moderator's note: this is a correction
of the Call for Votes posted two days ago. The ballot template
listed comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd despite the group being
referred to as comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom throughout the
proposal. People who have voted using the previous ballot are
being contacted. -- tale ]]
This is a Call for Votes regarding the proposed replacement of
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware with the following unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Miscellaneous PC hardware topics.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Video cards & monitors for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Hard drives & other PC storage devices.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm Modems & communication cards for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Whole IBM PC computer & clone systems.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking Network hardware & equipment for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Processor, cache, memory chips, etc.
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on the 26th of October 1993.
Please see below for voting instructions and contact information.
CHARTERS
========
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of miscellaneous topics related to the ibm-pc.
Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc will take the place of the current catch-all
newsgroup for topics related to various hardware discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions, drawbacks
of one local bus design over another, etc.); and for the discussion of any
computer hardware-related topics for the below proposed new newsgroups which do
not pass a final vote. Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware will be removed after a
3-month period (to give people time to switch over) if this new group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of video cards & monitors for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer video products, including such items as monitors, video cards
(including Window's accelerator cards, regular VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards,
etc.), and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of hard drives & storage devices for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer storage products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices, storage media, and most other storage
devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer CD-ROM hardware. Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm-pc's
is often a problem for many users, especially in terms of interface cards,
IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not* be for the discussion of any
software that is released on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently
exists, as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM drives and cards,
alt.* groups get limited propegation, and no group is currently devoted to
CD-ROM drives and the ibm-pc-hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of modems & communication cards for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
modems and communication devices. Topics dealing with internal, as well as
external modems, fax/modems, and voice-mail cards will be discussed.
Differences and technical questions dealing with serial port UARTS (eg.-
16450/16550, etc.), serial ports, IRQ's, etc. are also warranted here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of ibm-pc computer & clone manufacturers.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
vendors of complete hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from current customers,
troubleshooting system problems, and information about various system
configurations.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of network hardware & equipment for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
the hardware and technical aspects of networking cards and equipment.
Troubleshooting network interface problems, getting network devices properly
configured, and discussions on new network technologies and solutions are
appropriate here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of processor, cache & memory chips for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
computer chips and technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include memory
chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system chips from Intel (such as the
Pentium) or other chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include chip
pricing & availability, clock speeds (eg.- overclocking), and future chip
releases.
VOTING INSTRUCTIONS
===================
YOUR VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY A PROGRAM. Please use the template below and
follow the instructions exactly. If you do not do so your ballot may not be
understood and would then be returned to you with the votes uncounted.
Send a mail message to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk, containing this in the body:
start-parsing csiph
name <your name - not your email address>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips <yes/no/abstain>
end-parsing
Please note:
* Delete and replace the <...> parts completely, including the < >'s.
* Everything must be spelled correctly, including the newsgroup names.
* Do not omit any of the eleven lines above. Your name must be supplied.
* Do not insert any blank lines or line breaks.
* Please don't quote the whole of this Call for Votes in your reply !
You will receive a personal acknowledgement by email.
You can request a copy of this Call for Votes by sending;
start-parsing csiph
send-cfv
end-parsing
You may only vote from one account. If you vote from several accounts in an
attempt at fraud all your votes may be discounted and your name published.
Your vote must be received by 23:59:59GMT on October the 26th 1993. There will
be two more Calls for Votes; each will include a list of people whose votes
were counted but whose acknowledgements were returned as undeliverable.
CONTACT INFORMATION
===================
This vote is being handled by Ian Jackson as a neutral third party. Please
direct all questions regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems to
iwj@cam-orl.co.uk. NOTE! Please send your *vote* to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk
^^^^
Please direct all questions regarding the proposed new groups to the proposer,
John M. Grohol <grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu>.
--
Ian Jackson acting on behalf of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
vote taker for the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
votes to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk correspondance to iwj@cam-orl.co.uk
From iwj@cam-orl.co.uk Tue Oct 12 15:07:37 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk (Ian Jackson)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.periphs,comp.periphs.printers,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.cd-rom
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
Supersedes: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV1.2@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 12 Oct 1993 14:26:05 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Message-ID: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
References: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV1.2@uunet.uu.net>
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4146 news.groups:84239 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:84599 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:42881 comp.periphs:7304 comp.periphs.printers:9445 comp.periphs.scsi:16621 alt.cd-rom:15359
2nd CALL FOR VOTES
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
This is the 2nd Call for Votes regarding the proposed replacement of
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware with the following unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Miscellaneous PC hardware topics.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Video cards & monitors for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Hard drives & other PC storage devices.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm Modems & communication cards for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Whole IBM PC computer & clone systems.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking Network hardware & equipment for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Processor, cache, memory chips, etc.
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on the 26th of October 1993.
Please see below for voting instructions and contact information.
CHARTERS
========
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of miscellaneous topics related to the ibm-pc.
Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc will take the place of the current catch-all
newsgroup for topics related to various hardware discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions, drawbacks
of one local bus design over another, etc.); and for the discussion of any
computer hardware-related topics for the below proposed new newsgroups which do
not pass a final vote. Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware will be removed after a
3-month period (to give people time to switch over) if this new group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of video cards & monitors for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer video products, including such items as monitors, video cards
(including Window's accelerator cards, regular VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards,
etc.), and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of hard drives & storage devices for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer storage products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices, storage media, and most other storage
devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer CD-ROM hardware. Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm-pc's
is often a problem for many users, especially in terms of interface cards,
IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not* be for the discussion of any
software that is released on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently
exists, as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM drives and cards,
alt.* groups get limited propegation, and no group is currently devoted to
CD-ROM drives and the ibm-pc-hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of modems & communication cards for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
modems and communication devices. Topics dealing with internal, as well as
external modems, fax/modems, and voice-mail cards will be discussed.
Differences and technical questions dealing with serial port UARTS (eg.-
16450/16550, etc.), serial ports, IRQ's, etc. are also warranted here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of ibm-pc computer & clone manufacturers.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
vendors of complete hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from current customers,
troubleshooting system problems, and information about various system
configurations.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of network hardware & equipment for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
the hardware and technical aspects of networking cards and equipment.
Troubleshooting network interface problems, getting network devices properly
configured, and discussions on new network technologies and solutions are
appropriate here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of processor, cache & memory chips for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
computer chips and technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include memory
chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system chips from Intel (such as the
Pentium) or other chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include chip
pricing & availability, clock speeds (eg.- overclocking), and future chip
releases.
VOTING INSTRUCTIONS
===================
YOUR VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY A PROGRAM. Please use the template below and
follow the instructions exactly. If you do not do so your ballot may not be
understood and would then be returned to you with the votes uncounted.
Send a mail message to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk, containing this in the body:
start-parsing csiph
name <insert your name here - but not your email address>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips <yes/no/abstain>
end-parsing
PLEASE READ THESE INSTRUCTIONS:
* Delete and replace the <...> parts completely, including the < >'s.
* Everything must be spelled correctly, including the newsgroup names.
* Do not omit any of the eleven lines above. Your name must be supplied.
* Do not insert any blank lines or line breaks.
* Please don't quote the whole of this Call for Votes in your reply !
You will receive a personal acknowledgement by email.
You can request a copy of this Call for Votes by sending;
start-parsing csiph
send-cfv
end-parsing
You may only vote from one account. If you vote from several accounts in an
attempt at fraud all your votes may be discounted and your name published.
Your vote must be received by 23:59:59GMT on October the 26th 1993. There will
be one further Call for Votes.
CONTACT INFORMATION
===================
This vote is being handled by Ian Jackson as a neutral third party. Please
direct all questions regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems to
iwj@cam-orl.co.uk. NOTE! Please send your *vote* to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk
^^^^
Please direct all questions regarding the proposed new groups to the proposer,
John M. Grohol <grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu>.
BOUNCED ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
========================
No acknowledgements or negative acknowledgements of votes have so far
been returned to me as undeliverable, as of 10:45GMT Monday the 11th.
Therefore, if you voted and have not received a personal
acknowledgement of your ballot you should vote again.
Some people voted regarding the `.cd' newsgroup due to the incorrect
ballot template in the first CFV. Their votes are being counted with
respect to `.cd-rom'. They have been sent a message informing them of
this and advising them to vote again if they wished to change their
vote. This message bounced when sent to the following voters:
Name and email address Ballot reference
---------------------- ----------------
John Bongiovani <bongo@DIALix.oz.au> CSIPH100711554229044
David Cameron <dcameron@gssec.bt.co.uk> CSIPH10060651394449
Colin Helliwell <helliwell_c@lincoln.gpsemi.com> CSIPH10060729414876
Andrew Bros <bros@muirwood.convex.com> CSIPH100613565511475
Bill Dennen <bowtie@neats.mclean.mcd.mot.com> CSIPH100617184315375
Peter Wemm <peter@zeus.dialix.oz.au> CSIPH100708001525804
Steve Retallack <stever@sequent.com> CSIPH10060905006564
Jeff Putsch <putsch@uicc.com> CSIPH100613332711108
John M. Grohol <grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu> CSIPH100520325127439
This list will *not* appear again in the Final Call for Votes.
--
Ian Jackson acting on behalf of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
vote taker for the comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
votes to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk correspondance to iwj@cam-orl.co.uk
From iwj@cam-orl.co.uk Mon Oct 18 16:35:54 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk (Ian Jackson)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.periphs,comp.periphs.printers,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.cd-rom
Subject: 3rd CFV: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
Supersedes: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 18 Oct 1993 16:05:18 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 192
Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Expires: 27 Oct 1993 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV3@uunet.uu.net>
References: <comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
Reply-To: iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk (Automatic vote teller)
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4174 news.groups:84994 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:85427 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:43054 comp.periphs:7332 comp.periphs.printers:9533 comp.periphs.scsi:16740 alt.cd-rom:15633
FINAL CALL FOR VOTES
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
This is the 3rd and final Call for Votes regarding the proposed
replacement of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware with the following unmoderated
groups:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Miscellaneous PC hardware topics.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Video cards & monitors for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Hard drives & other PC storage devices.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm Modems & communication cards for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems Whole IBM PC computer & clone systems.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking Network hardware & equipment for the PC.
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Processor, cache, memory chips, etc.
Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on the 26th of October 1993.
Please see below for voting instructions and contact information.
CHARTERS
========
Proposed Renaming:
-----------------
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of miscellaneous topics related to the ibm-pc.
Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc will take the place of the current catch-all
newsgroup for topics related to various hardware discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions, drawbacks
of one local bus design over another, etc.); and for the discussion of any
computer hardware-related topics for the below proposed new newsgroups which do
not pass a final vote. Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware will be removed after a
3-month period (to give people time to switch over) if this new group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of video cards & monitors for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer video products, including such items as monitors, video cards
(including Window's accelerator cards, regular VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards,
etc.), and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of hard drives & storage devices for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer storage products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices, storage media, and most other storage
devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer CD-ROM hardware. Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm-pc's
is often a problem for many users, especially in terms of interface cards,
IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not* be for the discussion of any
software that is released on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently
exists, as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM drives and cards,
alt.* groups get limited propegation, and no group is currently devoted to
CD-ROM drives and the ibm-pc-hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of modems & communication cards for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
modems and communication devices. Topics dealing with internal, as well as
external modems, fax/modems, and voice-mail cards will be discussed.
Differences and technical questions dealing with serial port UARTS (eg.-
16450/16550, etc.), serial ports, IRQ's, etc. are also warranted here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of ibm-pc computer & clone manufacturers.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
vendors of complete hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from current customers,
troubleshooting system problems, and information about various system
configurations.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of network hardware & equipment for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
the hardware and technical aspects of networking cards and equipment.
Troubleshooting network interface problems, getting network devices properly
configured, and discussions on new network technologies and solutions are
appropriate here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of processor, cache & memory chips for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
computer chips and technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include memory
chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system chips from Intel (such as the
Pentium) or other chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include chip
pricing & availability, clock speeds (eg.- overclocking), and future chip
releases.
VOTING INSTRUCTIONS
===================
YOUR VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY A PROGRAM. Please use the template below and
follow the instructions exactly. If you do not do so your ballot may not be
understood and would then be returned to you with the votes uncounted.
Send a mail message to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk, containing this in the body:
start-parsing csiph
name <insert your name here - but not your email address>
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vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking <yes/no/abstain>
vote comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips <yes/no/abstain>
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BOUNCED ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
========================
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Name and email address Ballot reference
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Alex Ramos <ramos@engr.LaTech.edu> CSIPH100516204823428
Edgar Perez <eperez%hpprdos.prd.hp.com@hpl.hp.co.uk> CSIPH101413393721103
Tom Maki <tom@wintermute.net> CSIPH10160528147879
Michael M. Epting <eptingm@gtewd> CSIPH101803571119868
Some people voted regarding the `.cd' newsgroup due to the incorrect
ballot template in the first CFV. Their votes are being counted with
respect to `.cd-rom'. They have been sent a message informing them of
this and advising them to vote again if they wished to change their
vote. In addition to the list published in the 2nd CFV bounces have
been received for this message when sent to the following voters:
Name and email address Ballot reference
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Alex Ramos <ramos@engr.LaTech.edu> CSIPH100516204823428
Martin Schroeder <ms@informatik.uni-Bremen.de> CSIPH100612340010281
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votes to iwj-vote@cam-orl.co.uk correspondance to iwj@cam-orl.co.uk
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: iwj@cam-orl.co.uk (Ian Jackson)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.periphs,comp.periphs.printers,comp.periphs.scsi,alt.cd-rom
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation - all groups pass
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Date: 27 Oct 1993 14:28:28 -0400
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RESULTS
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware reorganisation
This is the table of results from the proposed reorganisation of
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
328 47 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
331 44 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
324 50 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
299 70 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom
308 59 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm
305 65 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems
308 55 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking
297 74 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
379 valid ballots were received and counted.
Accordingly all 8 groups will be created after the 5 day waiting
period, barring serious objections. The superseded group
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware will be removed in 3 months' time.
CHARTERS
========
Proposed Renaming:
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comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware -> comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of miscellaneous topics related to the ibm-pc.
Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc will take the place of the current catch-all
newsgroup for topics related to various hardware discussions that do not fall
into any of the proposed groups below (eg.- motherboard discussions, drawbacks
of one local bus design over another, etc.); and for the discussion of any
computer hardware-related topics for the below proposed new newsgroups which do
not pass a final vote. Comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware will be removed after a
3-month period (to give people time to switch over) if this new group passes.
New Groups Proposed:
-------------------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of video cards & monitors for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer video products, including such items as monitors, video cards
(including Window's accelerator cards, regular VGA cards, TV-in-a-window cards,
etc.), and any other video-imaging hardware.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of hard drives & storage devices for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer storage products, including such items as hard disk drives,
floppy disk drives, tape storage devices, storage media, and most other storage
devices.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of CD-ROM drives and interfaces for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
personal computer CD-ROM hardware. Getting CD-ROM drives to work in ibm-pc's
is often a problem for many users, especially in terms of interface cards,
IRQ's, and interrupts. This group would *not* be for the discussion of any
software that is released on CD-ROM format. Although alt.cd-rom currently
exists, as well as other newsgroups that sort-of cover CD-ROM drives and cards,
alt.* groups get limited propegation, and no group is currently devoted to
CD-ROM drives and the ibm-pc-hardware interface problems, despite the traffic
warranting such a group on alt.cd-rom and c.s.i.p.h.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of modems & communication cards for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
modems and communication devices. Topics dealing with internal, as well as
external modems, fax/modems, and voice-mail cards will be discussed.
Differences and technical questions dealing with serial port UARTS (eg.-
16450/16550, etc.), serial ports, IRQ's, etc. are also warranted here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of ibm-pc computer & clone manufacturers.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
vendors of complete hardware systems, such as Dell, IBM, Gateway, or Zeos.
Discussion topics may include advice on systems from current customers,
troubleshooting system problems, and information about various system
configurations.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of network hardware & equipment for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
the hardware and technical aspects of networking cards and equipment.
Troubleshooting network interface problems, getting network devices properly
configured, and discussions on new network technologies and solutions are
appropriate here.
---------
Name: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips (unmoderated)
Description: Discussion of processor, cache & memory chips for the ibm-pc.
This newsgroup will be for the discussion of those topics directly related to
computer chips and technologies. "Chips" is a broad term to include memory
chips (such as SIMMs) as well as new system chips from Intel (such as the
Pentium) or other chip manufacturers (such as AMD). Topics may include chip
pricing & availability, clock speeds (eg.- overclocking), and future chip
releases.
CONTACT INFORMATION
===================
This vote is being handled by Ian Jackson as a neutral third party. Please
direct all questions regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems to
Ian Jackson, <iwj@cam-orl.co.uk>.
Please direct all questions regarding the proposed new groups to the proposer,
John M. Grohol, <grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu>.
LIST OF VOTERS
==============
These two people's ballots arrived too late to be counted:
William Y. Lai <lai@seas.gwu.edu> CSIPH10270451149574
Alan H. Perry <alan%ghoti@rwsys.lonestar.org> CSIPH102714123016336
The following votes were received and counted in the totals above:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips ----------+
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking ---------+|
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems --------+||
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm -------+|||
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom ------+||||
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage -----+|||||
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video ----+||||||
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc ---+|||||||
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