From jon@armory.com Mon May 23 15:55:15 1994
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From: Jon Shemitz <jon@armory.com>
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Subject: RFD: misc.education.home
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1 - Proposed Charter:
A forum for the discussion of any and all aspects of home schooling:
>from completely unschooled and child-directed to rigidly
curriculum-based and parent-led; from tips and experiences to
meta-discussions of the nature of ideas and the structure of society.
The possible .christian group would be a forum specifically for those
home schoolers who consider Christ the center of their life and the
basis for all their decisions. The creation of two groups would
constitute a sort of fire wall that should help reduce tension between
those who think that "secular humanism" is simply rationalism and those
who think it is Satanism.
2 - Purpose: Handle volume, manage diversity, increase accessibility.
2.1 - Volume:
The number of home-schoolers seems to be growing every day. Ditto the
number of home-schoolers on the internet: The home-ed mailing list has
grown to the point where a few days of not reading your mail can mean
you'll spend the better part of a day catching up. People have started
unsubscribing simply because they can't handle the volume, and messages
sometimes bounce back to the list maintainer because some list members'
mailboxes are full!
News readers, however, are better able to handle this sort of volume.
One can read the threads that are personally interesting, and ignore the
threads that are not, without having to scan the first page of each
message.
2.2 - Diversity:
A news group would seem better able to contain a high level of
diversity, with less of the violent antipathies that a single mailing
list seemed to entail or the balkanization of discussion that
specialized lists entails. Instead of telling people to take a given
discussion "out of my mailbox", one can just stop reading the thread, or
even put it in their kill file. Similarly, the ability to totally
ignore messages from the people you find the most objectionable would
certainly help reduce friction in a group as polarized as home
schoolers.
2.3 - Accessibility:
Further, a news group is a sort of central place that everyone can
find. I posted the prelimary RFD's to the four home schooling mailing
lists that I know of, but the odds are good both that there are several
home schooling mailing lists that I've never heard of and that there are
many home schoolers who have never found any of the existing mailing
lists.
3 - Dangling Issues:
3.1 - Need:
Do home schoolers (and potential home schoolers) want a newsgroup? (I
got about 50 replies from the mailing lists supporting a newsgroup; we
need at least 100 yes votes AND a 2/3rds margin to create a group.)
Certainly a "self advertising" newsgroup would get more trash than the
mailing lists -- more bone-headed surveys, more MAKE.MONEY.FAST, and
the like -- but I tend to think that this would be more than balanced by
the greater range of discussion from people who never found the mailing
lists.
3.2 - Name:
If a home school group should be created, what should it be called and
where does the new group belong in the news group hierarchy? I lean
towards misc.home-school, but it's been pointed out that the Net Gods
prefer to keep the number of groups directly under misc. to a minimum.
While my personal preference (and seemingly that of at least a few
others on the mailing list) is to put the group under misc.kids as
"education" has connotations of Professional Teachers and all the sort
of dumbing down that many of us are trying to avoid, the moderator
of news.announce.newgroups felt that this *is* an education group, not
another Kids Say The Darndest Things group, and so belongs in
misc.education. I guess this reduces the naming question to
"misc.education.home or misc.education.home-school?"
One good argument for the former is that it is shorter, which is a good
idea since there will inevitably be fragmentation. Which brings me to
3.3 - Fire-wall:
As per the Charter, the differences between Christian and non-Christian
home schoolers seem to generate a lot of flames, but nothing much in the
way of useful discussion. Perhaps would be a good idea to create >two<
groups: misc.education.home and misc.education.home.christian (or
misc.education.christian.home)?
3.4 - Mail-link:
Some people can not read news groups. Several of them said they would be
for a news group if and only if it were set up so that all postings go
to a mailing list, and all mail sent to the list gets posted. I know
this can be done, but don't know how to do it -- is anyone willing to
step forward and volunteer to take care of this?
From jon@armory.com Tue Jun 14 14:44:24 1994
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From: jon@armory.com (Jon Shemitz)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.education.home-school.{misc,christian}
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Since this is a follow-up to my 5-20-94 proposal to create
misc.education.home and misc.education.home.christian, I'm going to omit
all of the rationale for newsgroup creation that appeared in the 1st
RFD. (I'll be glad to mail a copy of the 1st RFD to anyone who can't
find an archived copy.) My intent in this 2nd RFD is to briefly
summarize the discussion to date and the few resulting changes in my
proposal.
Since a number of the people who have responded to the 1st RFD seem to
know as little about newsgroup creation as I did a couple of months ago,
I think I should mention that YOU CANNOT YET VOTE FOR THE NEW GROUP(S)!
The newsgroup creation process has a number of rules which are intended
to reduce the possibility of acrimony over creation (or non-creation)
and they must be followed or the group will not be created. One
important one is that the actual voting period must be preceded by ca 30
days of open discussion. Another is that all votes must be sent to a
neutral volunteer during the publicly announced voting period: I cannot
say "Oh, 25 people voted yes during the discussion period", even if some
of those 25 do so publicly. I will arrange for the formal vote on or
around June 20th.
1 - Proposed Charter(s):
misc.education.home-school.misc is a forum for the discussion of any and all
aspects of home-schooling: from completely unschooled and child-directed
to rigidly curriculum-based and parent-led; from tips and experiences to
meta-discussions of the nature of ideas and the structure of society.
misc.education.home-school.christian is a forum specifically for those
home-schoolers who consider Christ the center of their life and the
basis for all their decisions. Keeping all such religious references
and justifications in the .christian group constitutes a vital fire wall
that helps reduce tension between those who think that "secular
humanism" is simply rationalism and those who think it is Satanism.
2 - Issues:
2.1 - Need:
The number of people who want at least the general newsgroup seems to be
more than enough to create one. Similarly, the people who oppose
newsgroup creation (primarily because they feel it will degrade the
discussions) can so far be counted on one hand -- much, much less than
one in three!
2.2 - Name:
In the 1st RFD, I proposed that we call the new group misc.education.home.
Several people pointed out that this also includes things like the sort
of Famous Writers' schools that advertise on match books or even
home-owners' education, and thus that the more specific name
misc.education.home-school was better. This seems like a good point to
me, so this 2nd RFD bears the longer name, as will the CFV (barring some
mass uprising to the contrary).
Also, the Net God in charge of newsgroup creation feels that it's best
not to create a group and subgroup simultaneously: it's better to
create two sibling groups. That is, rather than
misc.education.home-school and misc.education.home-school.christian, we
should create misc.education.home-school.misc and
misc.education.home-school.christian. The reasoning is that this makes
it easier for sysadmins to take only the general group; helps cuts down
on cross-posting; and prevents any feeling that Christians are being
stigmatized by being banished to a subgroup. Personally, I think that a
31 character group name is sort of long and unwieldy, but since few
people type in a newsgroup name each time they want to read it, I
suppose this really isn't an issue.
2.3 - Fire-wall:
The proposal to create two groups has been the most controversial part
of the RFD. However, since there seems to be four or five supporters
for every one opponent, it looks like we will be creating two groups.
Further, since most of the opposition seemed to be from fundamentalist
Christians who object to being stigmatized by being relegated to a
subgroup, creating two fourth level groups may erase much of that
opposition.
The remaining opposition was of the form "Why assume there will be
trouble? Why not create one group and split it if it proves
necessary?", which seems to fly against the experience of the home-ed
mailing list: Before there was an explicitly Christian mailing list,
there *were* a lot of flame wars. Since then, there have been fewer
flame wars, and they have been much milder.
The broad (or secular) home-ed mailing list sees perhaps ten or fifteen
times as many messages per day as the explicitly Christian list. Many
people participate in both lists, generally displaying very accurate
judgment as to what would offend those people on the main list who don't
share their (particular variety of) fundamentalist beliefs.
Finally, if we wait for trouble, we're facing over two months of totally
avoidable flames as we circulate a RFD to split the group then wait
through a CFV. This brings me to:
3.4 - Moderation:
Several people posted messages saying, in effect, "If home-schoolers are
so polarized, maybe the group(s) should be moderated." I don't have a
feel for the balance of opinion here, but I think the group(s) should be
unmoderated for three basic reasons: 1) Perhaps most importantly, the
mailing list fire wall basically does work. Given that moderation,
however benign, will slow and restrict discussion, I think that we
should avoid it unless and/or until it seems absolutely necessary. 2)
The home-ed list can sometimes see a hundred messages a day, and the
newsgroup will generate even higher volume. Where will we find someone
(with good connectivity) who's willing to read each and every one of
those messages? 3) It's not enough to find someone on a good site who's
willing to wade through a slush pile: They must also be someone that
people know, and trust to not reject messages simply because they
disagree with them.
I suspect that moderation is the biggest remaining issue that we must
resolve before we can issue a Call For Votes. Please send your opinions
to me via email, and I'll save them in a ftp-able file at
deeptht.armory.com in the directory /pub/user/jon.
3.5 - Mail-link:
We still have a problem here. Some people can not read news groups.
Several of them said they would be for a news group if and only if it
were set up so that all postings go to a mailing list, and all mail sent
to the list gets posted. I know this can be done, but don't know how to
do it -- so far, no one has been willing to step forward and volunteer
to take care of this. (Even if I did know how, news service to
armory.com can be erratic.) I don't know if the absence of a gateway
would generate enough NO votes to prevent the group(s) being created,
but I'd really rather not find out!
Please, I know that maintaining a mailing list is a thankless job, but
really, isn't there anyone out there who feels it's about time to give
something back to Usenet?
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Jun 29 16:04:12 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.kids,misc.education
Subject: CFV: misc.education.home-school.{misc,christian}
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.education.home-school.misc
unmoderated group misc.education.home-school.christian
Newsgroups line:
misc.education.home-school.misc Almost anything about home-schooling.
misc.education.home-school.christian Christian home-schooling.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 July 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists:
home-ed home-ed@world.std.com
home-ed-politics home-ed-politics@mainstream.com
homeschool_train_up_a_child homeschool_train_up_a_child@mainstream.com
The Learning List learning@sea.east.sun.com
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Jon Shemitz <jon@armory.com>.
CHARTER
misc.education.home-school.misc is a forum for the discussion of any and
all aspects of home-schooling: from completely unschooled and
child-directed to rigidly curriculum-based and parent-led; from tips and
experiences to meta-discussions of the nature of ideas and the structure
of society.
misc.education.home-school.christian is a forum specifically for those
home-schoolers who consider Christ the center of their life and the
basis for all their decisions. Keeping all such religious references
and justifications in the .christian group constitutes a vital fire wall
that helps reduce tension between those who think that "secular
humanism" is simply rationalism and those who think it is Satanism.
Neither group yet has a mailing list for a news<->mail gateway.
Hopefully, this WILL happen before the end of the voting period. In
either case, a 2nd CFV will be posted, which will make it clear whether
or not the gateways will be created. Anyone who would vote AGAINST
ungated newsgroups is cordially requested to wait until this 2nd CFV, to
give us every possible chance to establish the gateways.
The volume on the home-ed mailing list has grown to be totally
unmanageable, filling mailboxes and creating pleas to abort threads that
get `too tangential'. Newsreaders are better able to handle this
volume, as one can simply ignore threads that are not interesting to
you. Newsgroups are also better able to handle diversity, as one can
always add the most personally objectionable individuals to your kill
file. Finally, the discussion process for the creation of these
newsgroups has made it amply clear that there are many home-schoolers
who read news but who have never found the mailing lists.
HOW TO VOTE
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below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
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It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Tue Jul 12 15:10:54 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.education.home-school.{misc,christian}
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.education.home-school.misc
unmoderated group misc.education.home-school.christian
Newsgroups line:
misc.education.home-school.misc Almost anything about home-schooling.
misc.education.home-school.christian Christian home-schooling.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 July 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists:
home-ed home-ed@world.std.com
home-ed-politics home-ed-politics@mainstream.com
homeschool_train_up_a_child homeschool_train_up_a_child@mainstream.com
The Learning List learning@sea.east.sun.com
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Jon Shemitz <jon@armory.com>.
CHARTER
misc.education.home-school.misc is a forum for the discussion of any and
all aspects of home-schooling: from completely unschooled and
child-directed to rigidly curriculum-based and parent-led; from tips and
experiences to meta-discussions of the nature of ideas and the structure
of society.
misc.education.home-school.christian is a forum specifically for those
home-schoolers who consider Christ the center of their life and the
basis for all their decisions. Keeping all such religious references
and justifications in the .christian group constitutes a vital fire wall
that helps reduce tension between those who think that "secular
humanism" is simply rationalism and those who think it is Satanism.
Neither group yet has a mailing list for a news<->mail gateway.
Hopefully, this WILL happen before the end of the voting period. In
either case, a 2nd CFV will be posted, which will make it clear whether
or not the gateways will be created. Anyone who would vote AGAINST
ungated newsgroups is cordially requested to wait until this 2nd CFV, to
give us every possible chance to establish the gateways.
The volume on the home-ed mailing list has grown to be totally
unmanageable, filling mailboxes and creating pleas to abort threads that
get `too tangential'. Newsreaders are better able to handle this
volume, as one can simply ignore threads that are not interesting to
you. Newsgroups are also better able to handle diversity, as one can
always add the most personally objectionable individuals to your kill
file. Finally, the discussion process for the creation of these
newsgroups has made it amply clear that there are many home-schoolers
who read news but who have never found the mailing lists.
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Check the 'To:' address before you send it off!
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ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
misc.education.home-school vote Bounce List - No need to revote
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chrise@hp.com Chris Eich
dacosta@prl.philips.nl Paulo da Costa
dev1!harryr@uunet.uu.net Harry Rockefeller
neufeld@dsd.northrop.com James Neufeld
PETTIJOB@WOOD-VINES.ARMY.MIL.WOOD-VINES.ARMY.MIL MR BRADLEY PETTIJOHN
sam.neosoft.com@sam.neosoft.com Thomas D. Johnston, MD
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Thu Jul 21 18:26:40 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: misc.education.home-school.{misc,christian} pass 235:28, 206:53
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RESULT
misc.education.home-school vote results - 280 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
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235 28 : Yes Yes : Yes : misc.education.home-school.misc
206 53 : Yes Yes : Yes : misc.education.home-school.christian
Newsgroups line:
misc.education.home-school.misc Almost anything about home-schooling.
misc.education.home-school.christian Christian home-schooling.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Jon Shemitz <jon@armory.com>.
CHARTER
misc.education.home-school.misc is a forum for the discussion of any and
all aspects of home-schooling: from completely unschooled and
child-directed to rigidly curriculum-based and parent-led; from tips and
experiences to meta-discussions of the nature of ideas and the structure
of society.
misc.education.home-school.christian is a forum specifically for those
home-schoolers who consider Christ the center of their life and the
basis for all their decisions. Keeping all such religious references
and justifications in the .christian group constitutes a vital fire wall
that helps reduce tension between those who think that "secular
humanism" is simply rationalism and those who think it is Satanism.
The volume on the home-ed mailing list has grown to be totally
unmanageable, filling mailboxes and creating pleas to abort threads that
get `too tangential'. Newsreaders are better able to handle this
volume, as one can simply ignore threads that are not interesting to
you. Newsgroups are also better able to handle diversity, as one can
always add the most personally objectionable individuals to your kill
file. Finally, the discussion process for the creation of these
newsgroups has made it amply clear that there are many home-schoolers
who read news but who have never found the mailing lists.
misc.education.home-school vote Final Vote Ack
misc.education.home-school.christian ----+
misc.education.home-school.misc ---+|
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ABjanes@aol.com Atle Bjanes YY
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adams@spss.com Steve Adams YY
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aem@Symbiosis.AHP.Com Andrew Mossberg Y-
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alan@mars.ak.planet.co.nz Alan Marston Y-
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bcrespo@nyx.cs.du.edu Beth Crespo YY
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cervone@notis.com Frank Graubart NN
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cmwilson@uncc.edu Mike Wilson YY
cpferron@cle.ab.com Paul Ferroni YY
cproctor@saturn.caps.maine.edu Charles Proctor sr. YY
crislip@austin.ibm.com Crislip, J. L. YY
crosby@rintintin.Colorado.EDU Matthew Crosby NN
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cward@Think.COM Christopher Ward YY
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darien@vicorp.com Darien Gardner YY
dave_oshea@wiltel.com Dave O'Shea YY
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