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From sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Mon May 23 19:01:53 1994
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From: sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sandeep Dave)
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Subject: RFD: misc.education.medical
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NEWSGROUP misc.education.medical - issues related to medical education
CHARTER
The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues
related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to
* Applying to medical school (premed concerns)
* Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is
complete without this? :-) )
* Medical school curricula
* Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships
* Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)
* Current problems with medical education
RATIONALE
There are currently over 100,000 people (with internet/usenet access)
actively pursuing medical education. Yet, there is no newsgroup that
directly addresses the concerns mentioned above. The wide distribution of
the misc.... hierarchy will provide an effective forum for discussion of the
issues mentioned above, while providing the means for an effective, informal
and timely sharing of information, ideas and experiences.
DISCUSSION
should be directed to news.groups.
QUESTIONS
should be directed to me!
Sandeep Dave, Northwestern University
sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From asolovay@geoworks.com Tue Jun 14 19:30:49 1994
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From: asolovay@geoworks.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education
Subject: CFV: misc.education.medical
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.education.medical
Newsgroups line:
misc.education.medical Issues related to medical education.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 5 July 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact asolovay@geoworks.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Sandeep Dave <sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>.
The vote-taker will post each CFV to the mailing list at
MEDSTU-L%UNVMVMA.BITNET@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu shortly after it is
posted to news.announce.newsgroups. He will send an abridged RESULT
posting (without the full list of voters) to the mailing list after
voting ends; the full RESULTs will be posted to all the newsgroups
where the CFV was posted.
CHARTER
The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues
related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to
* Applying to medical school (premed concerns)
* Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is
complete without this? :-))
* Medical school curricula
* Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships
* Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)
* Current problems with medical education
RATIONALE
There are currently over 100,000 people (with internet/usenet access)
actively pursuing medical education. The wide distribution of the misc....
hierarchy will provide an effective forum for discussion of the issues
mentioned above, while providing the means for an effective, informal and
timely sharing of information, ideas and experiences.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: votes@geoworks.com
Just "Replying" to this post should work if you are not reading this
on a mailing list, and if your newsreader honors the "reply-to" line.
Double-check the address before sending your ballot.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on misc.education.medical
I vote NO on misc.education.medical
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered
correctly.
Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she
may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no
matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received
>from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be
counted.
Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives
(including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made
available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They
may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available
if there is a controversy concerning the vote.
From asolovay@geoworks.com Sat Jun 25 23:18:10 1994
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From: asolovay@geoworks.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education
Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.education.medical
Supersedes: <misc.education.medical-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.education.medical
Newsgroups line:
misc.education.medical Issues related to medical education.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 5 July 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact asolovay@geoworks.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Sandeep Dave <sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>.
The vote-taker will post each CFV to the mailing list at
MEDSTU-L%UNVMVMA.BITNET@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu shortly after it is
posted to news.announce.newsgroups. He will send an abridged RESULT
posting (without the full list of voters) to the mailing list after
voting ends; the full RESULTs will be posted to all the newsgroups
where the CFV was posted.
CHARTER
The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues
related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to
* Applying to medical school (premed concerns)
* Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is
complete without this? :-))
* Medical school curricula
* Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships
* Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)
* Current problems with medical education
RATIONALE
There are currently over 100,000 people (with internet/usenet access)
actively pursuing medical education. The wide distribution of the misc....
hierarchy will provide an effective forum for discussion of the issues
mentioned above, while providing the means for an effective, informal and
timely sharing of information, ideas and experiences.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: votes@geoworks.com
Just "Replying" to this post should work if you are not reading this
on a mailing list, and if your newsreader honors the "reply-to" line.
Double-check the address before sending your ballot.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on misc.education.medical
I vote NO on misc.education.medical
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered
correctly.
Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she
may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no
matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received
>from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be
counted.
Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives
(including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made
available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They
may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available
if there is a controversy concerning the vote.
BOUNCES
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The following people's EMail acknowledgements bounced when I sent
them. They need not revote; their votes have been counted.
misc.education.medical Bounce List
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fmgcoon@jvnc.tigger.net M. W. Coon
INVALID VOTES
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The following people submitted invalid ballots, and have not
superseded them with valid ones.
Votes in error
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Ankur.Doshi@utmb.edu Ankur Doshi
! No vote statement in message
From asolovay@geoworks.com Tue Jul 12 15:11:01 1994
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From: asolovay@geoworks.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,soc.college,misc.education
Subject: RESULT: misc.education.medical passes 178:11
Supersedes: <misc.education.medical-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
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RESULT
unmoderated group misc.education.medical passes 178:11
There were 178 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 189 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 5 July 1994.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.
Vote-taker's address: asolovay@geoworks.com (Andrew Solovay)
Group proponent's address: sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sandeep Dave)
Newsgroups line:
misc.education.medical Issues related to medical education.
CHARTER (culled from the Call for Votes):
The proposed unmoderated group will provide a forum for discussion of issues
related to medical education. These include, but are not limited to
* Applying to medical school (premed concerns)
* Financial aid/debt management (what discussion of med education is
complete without this? :-))
* Medical school curricula
* Applying for internships/residencies/fellowships
* Postgraduate medical education (aka continuing education)
* Current problems with medical education
misc.education.medical Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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18971@rhodes.aero.org QUAN NGUYEN, X65228
444156@acadvm1.uottawa.ca Marlies Vincken
ab4z@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Amir B.
ahm@smi.med.pitt.edu
amitj@parcom.ernet.in Amit Joshi
andrea@sirius.cse.fau.edu Andrea Lobo
andrew@mendel.agron.iastate.edu Andrew
Ankur.Doshi@utmb.edu Ankur Doshi
aradin@iastate.edu
asadm@think.com Asad Mohamed
ashah@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Anal Shah
ault@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
AVGELDER@medic.up.ac.za Prof Antoine van Gelder
avielr@bcm.tmc.edu Aviel Roy-Shapira
awitney@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Andy
bad6@columbia.edu Barclay A. Dunn
bapu@netcom.com Bapu P. Arekapudi
BARRVST@zis.ziff.com Vida Tigrani
bbadass@acs.bu.edu Matthew Martin
bcrane@odf.ucsd.edu Ben Crane
Benjamin.Littenberg@dartmouth.edu Benjamin Littenberg
bijans@phoenix.princeton.edu Bijan Mohammad Salehizadeh
birdlord@netcom.com Neal Sarin
bkirkpat@minet.gov.mb.ca Bob Kirkpatrick
bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu Brian Manning Delaney
bn293@cleveland.freenet.edu Douglas P. Shannon
bordelon@bcm.tmc.edu Cassius B. Bordelon,Jr.
brian@gebeg.win.net Brian Hall
Bryan_Kaplan@earthspirit.org Bryan Kaplan
bson@ai.mit.edu Jan Brittenson
bsubra@hayes.com
burkhard@husc.harvard.edu
c1chhabr@watson.ibm.com C. Vivek
carino@brahms.udel.edu Christine Carino
Cathy.Brower@utmb.edu Cathy Brower
charu@avid.com
Chris_Franka-RXYK40@oakqm3.sps.mot.com Chris Franka-RXYK40
cksmith@infi.net Christopher Smith
csc1@cc.bellcore.com clendenin,colleen
d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk David Davies
dacey@crl.com Peter Campbell
dandekar@summa4.mv.com Yogesh Dandekar
dbourne@sfu.ca Douglas Allen Bourne
dconner@clark.net David Conner
ddl@hpato.aus.hp.com Dominique Latour
df910@cleveland.freenet.edu Kregg T Brooks
dff@adc.com Dan F. Florey
dlr1002@cus.cam.ac.uk Dan Ruderman
duvall@kauai.jsc.nasa.gov Jeff Duvall
eethomp@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu Elaine Thompson
Elango@cis.udel.edu
eleea43@menudo.uh.edu Sacheen Kasbekar
en269@cleveland.freenet.edu Julie K. Stahlhut
F.Ronteltap@educ.rulimburg.nl F. Ronteltap
FERGUSON%SJSUVM1.BITNET@cmsa.berkeley.edu
finn@netcom.com Robert Finn
flowers@cs.ucla.edu Margot Flowers
fmgcoon@jvnc.tigger.net M. W. Coon
fmrco!vantage!cc70155@uunet.uu.net Krishnan Vaidyanathan
fred0009@gold.tc.umn.edu Thomas W Frederickson
fulmer@ftw1.honeywell.com David K. Fulmer
G.R._Rajiv_at_GEMS0@mail.amsinc.com
G=DeSandre%TechAff%Chiron@larry.chiron.com
GaLlif!yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee
gerry@cs.tamu.edu Gerald J Creager
godura@eecis.udel.edu Ruchir Godura
gwr@cgl.ucsf.edu
gyarneau@bcm.tmc.edu Glen Yarneau
hammaker@apple.com Rebecca Hammaker
hansenr@ohsu.edu ROBERT A. HANSEN
hpol@chopin.udel.edu Polina Mikha Kharik
igold@midway.uchicago.edu Sleepy
jchapmn@minerva.cis.yale.edu Chappy
jchokey@leland.stanford.edu James Alexander Chokey
jel-11@bones.biochem.ualberta.ca Dag
jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org Joseph Fortt
jhj4@columbia.edu Jeffrey Hall Jennings
jill@super.org Amelia J. Scott-Piner
jkenna@bcm.tmc.edu Jed Kenna
jmartin@clark.edu John Martin
john.shakula@m.cc.utah.edu john shakula
john_werner@taligent.com John Werner
jonw@rci.ripco.com Jon W.
jphillips@world.win.net Joseph M. Phillips
jreed@ccmail.llu.edu jreed
JSNYDER@utmem1.utmem.edu Joy Snyder
jtee@chem1.chem.dal.ca TEE JAMES
jullian@bcm.tmc.edu John Anthony Ullian
jyoon@vnet.ibm.com Jong C. Yoon ((919)254-2383)
kc690817@express.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu Kenneth M. Carlson
kenr@storage.tandem.com Ken Rose
KITSO@qucdn.queensu.ca
ksl@adc.com Kathy S Leggitt
ktm3@columbia.edu Kevin T. Merrell
L15D@zfn.uni-bremen.de Martin Schroeder
laurag@ritz.mordor.com Laura Gillespie
leanne@lingua.cltr.uq.oz.au Leanne Archer
losborn@msscc.med.utah.edu Lucy M. Osborn
lsmith@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Linda Smith
luigi_cr@postoffice.utas.edu.au
mandar@everest.radiology.uiowa.edu Mandar Pattekar
manoj@summa4.mv.com Manoj Bhatia
markg@sr.hp.com Mark Goldsworthy
marq@world.std.com Mark A Lilly
MARVW@vax4.bear.com Marv Weisberg
maryn@uclink.berkeley.edu Mary-Ann Untalan Wasim
maya@triton.unm.edu
mcruz@mhc.mtholyoke.edu Myra T. Cruz
mdiffin@mrc-crc.ac.uk Dr. M.C. Diffin
mef@spock.ebt.com Mike Fessler
mguddati@uceng.uc.edu Murty N Guddati
miphh@gamgee.cc.flinders.edu.au Paul Hakendorf
monorail@seanews.akita.com Brannon W. Boren
mphbj639@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu Stephen Cristol
muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us David Muir Sharnoff
N0OVF@vax1.mankato.msus.edu Chris Schmelzer
nagi@mit.edu
ndallen@io.org Nigel Allen
Nisheeth.Parekh@utmb.edu Nisheeth Parekh
pandya@ftw1.honeywell.com Harit Pandya
Paul.G.Whiting@mel.dit.csiro.au
PAUL@tdr.com Paul Robinson
pearce@virginia.edu Thomas L. Pearce
peters@wrcs1.urz.uni-wuppertal.de Klaus Peters
poer@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu L. Poer
pxw423c@crusher.dukepower.com Prasanna W.
quinn@phoenix.princeton.edu Michael J. Quinn
ramji@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com Ramji Raghavan
rao@sun5.ce.udel.edu Sudhir Madhava Rao
rbhardwa@med.ucalgary.ca Rajan Bhardwaj
reddy@merle.acns.nwu.edu
revco@revco.med.yale.edu Jim Revkin
reyes@buphyk.bu.edu Jinara Reyes
rhinkley@mednet.med.miami.edu
RLAI@pomona.claremont.edu Limpet Man
rmunshi@cs.sunysb.edu Rajesh Munshi
Rob_Falconer@toppsi.gn.apc.org
rudolph@cis.umassd.edu Lee Rudolph
rwong@jade.tufts.edu
sagar@cs.sunysb.edu Sagar Karmarkar
sammy@earthview.cms.udel.edu Shaji
sanjeev@phoenix.princeton.edu Sanjeev Poornachandra Shukla
sastry@ftw1.honeywell.com Sheela Sastry
sckolnic@acsu.buffalo.edu Bruce R Sckolnick
Scott.A.McElfresh@dartmouth.edu Scott McElfresh
scott@apple.com maggie douglass
sdave@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Sandeep Dave
sedrez@icad.puc-rio.br Paulo F. Sedrez
sgberg@charon.bloomington.in.us Stefan G. Berg
shane@sunvis.jsc.nasa.gov R.Shane Barton-EE6
shelly_buchanan@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com Shelly Buchanan
siamak@kaiwan.com Siamak Ansari
sirsikar@summa4.mv.com Rajindra Sirsikar
smitht@kauai.jsc.nasa.gov Thomas E. Smith
sridhar@uts.amdahl.com Sridhar Dagupati
srini@beta.ie.wisc.edu Srinivasan Kumar
sshukla@wam.umd.edu Sudheer Poornachandra Shukla
sutton@lamar.colostate.edu Rich Sutton
svadera@iastate.edu
swsg_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu Stacy Weisberg
T=Chan%TechAff%Chiron@larry.chiron.com
tclee@silver.ucs.indiana.edu Teng-Chun Lee
TimReyno@burton.demon.co.uk Dr. Tim Reynolds
tomasz@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca Tomasz Wit Hruczkowski
tspool@eos.ncsu.edu
u9314394@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca S.A. Ritz
umesh@parcom.ernet.in Umesh Kasture
umkirkp4@cc.umanitoba.ca Iain Donald Craik Kirkpatrick
vajapeya@me.udel.edu Sridhar Vajapeyam
Valeri.Kolpakov@um.cc.umich.edu
vandell@ds9.raider.net Guy VanDell
vaughn@udel.edu Chris Vaughn
VKUMAR2@uoft02.utoledo.edu
vuletic@urz.unibas.ch Vanja Vuletic
wenode@bach.udel.edu Vinod M. Arekar
west@escmail.orl.mmc.com Floyd West
yensoy@glue.umd.edu Sridhar Srinivasan
ZarehAR@ccmail.apldbio.com
Voted No
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antersbe@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Stefan Antersberger
apolzer@cs.ucsd.edu Andreas Polzer
bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu Ed Bailey
crouchkp@flidh102.delcoelect.com
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan
j414@midway.uchicago.edu mary-frances jagod
peterb@telerama.lm.com Peter Berger
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
smarry@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
WARD@ernie.van.forintek.ca Ward F. Bush
Abstained
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mmt@redbrick.com Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
Votes in error
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PavnaJain@aol.com Arvind
! No vote statement in message
S0085095@buvax.barry.edu
! Conflicting votes
U08837@uicvm.uic.edu Joilo Barbosa
! No vote statement in message
USENET FACT: Lurker
A person who reads/browses newsgroups but does not actively post.