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From huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi Tue Oct 11 13:06:55 1994
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From: huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi (Taneli Huuskonen)
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Subject: RFD: misc.health.arthritis
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
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Group Name: misc.health.arthritis
Status: Unmoderated
Distribution: Worldwide
Summary: Discussion about arthritis and related issues
Proposed by: Taneli Huuskonen (huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi)
This is the official Request For Discussion concerning the creation of a
new group called misc.health.arthritis. The group would be intended as
a more widespread forum for such discussions as currently take place in
the existing newsgroup alt.support.arthritis. If an agreement about
the new group is reached within a discussion period lasting 21-30 days,
this RFD will be followed with a Call For Votes. The CFV will be posted
to the same newsgroups as this RFD, namely:
alt.med.fibromyalgia
alt.support.arthritis
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
sci.med.immunology
Any subsequent discussion is directed to news.groups.
Rationale
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The existing alt.support.arthritis has proved to be
a much-used discussion forum for both doctors and lay people, with a
remarkably good signal-to-noise ratio, and many people have expressed
their satisfaction with the group in their postings. I have myself
found both the factual information and the personal sharing of
experiences very important. Channeling the same discussions to
misc.health.arthritis would make them accessible to a wider audience,
as many Usenet sites do not carry the alt hierarchy of newsgroups
at all.
There was some concern about some current readers of
alt.support.arthritis being unable to access the new group. This
problem seems to be cleared, at least for residents of Southern
Ontario. If a similar situation persists somewhere else, please
make it known, so that alternative solutions can be sought
together. For details, please refer to my recent postings on
alt.support.arthritis and followups to them by Linda Mayhew.
There is an existing misc.health hierarchy, which already has the
following groups: misc.health.diabetes, misc.health.aids, and
misc.health.alternative. The new group would fit in well.
Charter
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The proposed group would be intended for discussions about different
aspects of arthritis mainly from the patient's point of view. Medical
discussions are supposed to be informational only, not intended for a
substitute of consulting a properly trained medical practitioner.
Anyone with an interest in arthritis is free to post, including but not
limited to patients, their friends and family members, doctors, and
other medical professionals dealing with different forms of arthritis.
The following are examples of intended topics:
- symptoms and causes of different forms of arthritis
- treatments, both conventional and alternative
- arthritis-related practical problems and ways to overcome them
- social issues relevant to arthritis patients
- emotional support
- different resources available to people with arthritis
Scientific discussions that are likely to interest arthritis patients in
general are welcome on misc.health.arthritis, even if cross-posted to
sci.med.immunology.
Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group.
--
Taneli Huuskonen | finger huuskone@karhu.helsinki.fi | Garanteely speling
-----------------|-------------------------------------| & grammer errur free
Did I claim | S e va'gy tala'n me'g jobban boldogi't |---------------------
something? | Mint ha ott volne'k, ahol lenni va'gyok. -Peto"fi Sa'ndor
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:51:48 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: misc.health.arthritis
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.health.arthritis
Newsgroups line:
misc.health.arthritis Arthritis and related disorders.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Taneli Huuskonen <huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi>.
CHARTER
The proposed group would be intended for discussions about different
aspects of arthritis and related autoimmune disorders, such as lupus and
scleroderma, mainly from the patient's point of view. Medical
discussions are supposed to be informational only, not intended for a
substitute of consulting a properly trained medical practitioner.
Anyone with an interest in arthritis is free to post, including but not
limited to patients, their friends and family members, doctors, and
other medical professionals dealing with different forms of arthritis.
The following are examples of intended topics:
- symptoms and causes of different forms of arthritis
- treatments, both conventional and alternative
- arthritis-related practical problems and ways to overcome them
- social issues relevant to arthritis patients
- emotional support
- different resources available to people with arthritis
Scientific discussions that are likely to interest arthritis patients in
general are welcome on misc.health.arthritis, even if cross-posted to
sci.med.immunology.
Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group.
Why vote yes?
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If you are a reader of the existing alt.support.arthritis and you wish
more people could participate, or if you'd like to read it but your site
doesn't carry it, you have a reason to vote FOR the creation of the new
group.
-- Taneli Huuskonen
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on misc.health.arthritis
I vote NO on misc.health.arthritis
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Thu Dec 1 15:35:57 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.health.arthritis
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.health.arthritis
Newsgroups line:
misc.health.arthritis Arthritis and related disorders.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Taneli Huuskonen <huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi>.
CHARTER
The proposed group would be intended for discussions about different
aspects of arthritis and related autoimmune disorders, such as lupus and
scleroderma, mainly from the patient's point of view. Medical
discussions are supposed to be informational only, not intended for a
substitute of consulting a properly trained medical practitioner.
Anyone with an interest in arthritis is free to post, including but not
limited to patients, their friends and family members, doctors, and
other medical professionals dealing with different forms of arthritis.
The following are examples of intended topics:
- symptoms and causes of different forms of arthritis
- treatments, both conventional and alternative
- arthritis-related practical problems and ways to overcome them
- social issues relevant to arthritis patients
- emotional support
- different resources available to people with arthritis
Scientific discussions that are likely to interest arthritis patients in
general are welcome on misc.health.arthritis, even if cross-posted to
sci.med.immunology.
Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group.
Why vote yes?
-------------
If you are a reader of the existing alt.support.arthritis and you wish
more people could participate, or if you'd like to read it but your site
doesn't carry it, you have a reason to vote FOR the creation of the new
group.
-- Taneli Huuskonen
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on misc.health.arthritis
I vote NO on misc.health.arthritis
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
misc.health.arthritis Bounce List - No need to revote
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bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Dec 14 15:15:29 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: misc.health.arthritis passes 143:11
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RESULT
unmoderated group misc.health.arthritis passes 143:11
There were 143 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 154 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
misc.health.arthritis Arthritis and related disorders.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Taneli Huuskonen <huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi>.
CHARTER
The proposed group would be intended for discussions about different
aspects of arthritis and related autoimmune disorders, such as lupus and
scleroderma, mainly from the patient's point of view. Medical
discussions are supposed to be informational only, not intended for a
substitute of consulting a properly trained medical practitioner.
Anyone with an interest in arthritis is free to post, including but not
limited to patients, their friends and family members, doctors, and
other medical professionals dealing with different forms of arthritis.
The following are examples of intended topics:
- symptoms and causes of different forms of arthritis
- treatments, both conventional and alternative
- arthritis-related practical problems and ways to overcome them
- social issues relevant to arthritis patients
- emotional support
- different resources available to people with arthritis
Scientific discussions that are likely to interest arthritis patients in
general are welcome on misc.health.arthritis, even if cross-posted to
sci.med.immunology.
Commercial advertisements may NOT be posted to the proposed group.
Why vote yes?
-------------
If you are a reader of the existing alt.support.arthritis and you wish
more people could participate, or if you'd like to read it but your site
doesn't carry it, you have a reason to vote FOR the creation of the new
group.
-- Taneli Huuskonen
misc.health.arthritis Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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71267.432@compuserve.com Fred Marshall
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akumar@stlouis.cray.com Ashwini Kumar
al715@yfn.ysu.edu Tina M. Wood
amsingle@artsci.wustl.edu Anne-Michelle Singleton
amy@sw.stratus.com Amy McNulty
ananda@cs.utexas.edu Ananda M. Kar
ault@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
banjo@ais.net Marianna Miles
barb@forsci.ualberta.ca Barb Beck
bartel@wmd.de Frank Bartel
BDavidso@ubmedb.buffalo.edu Davidson, Bruce A.
belmonte@vents.uji.es Miguel Angel Belmonte
betsys@cs.umb.edu Elizabeth Schwartz
billk@cs.ukans.edu
bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
bob@danil.demon.co.uk Bob Savage
bsparks@unm.edu Betty Sparks CIRT-IRC
bweber@micom.com Bill Weber (DVNS)
bwolthoo@inter.nl.net Bram Wolthoorn
caglec@rain.org Chantal Cagle
camilla@netcom.com Camilla Cracchiolo
cassp@library.tmc.edu
castor@ma2.sun.ac.za Daniel
Catherine.Bellon@imag.fr Catherine Bellon
catseye@netcom.com Mark Kupferman
ceb4v@poe.acc.virginia.edu Catherine E. Boyd
cfs-news@cais.cais.com Roger Burns
cls6@midway.uchicago.edu Cory L. Scott
cord@europa.com Holden C.
cquinton@ctc.ctc.edu Carlyn Quinton
csnook@world.std.com carl e snook
cw@cac.washington.edu Cheryl Walker
cward@Think.COM Christopher Ward
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della@xh050.utica.ge.com Frank P. Della Posta
dennis@gov.nt.ca Dennis Mahussier
dgold@basso.actrix.gen.nz Dale Gold
djb@mod.dsto.gov.au Dave Brown
dsala@usa.net Dave Sala
dsmith@bronze.coil.com David Smith
ed%blkhole@sdd.hp.com Edward Reid
edmoore@hpvcledm.vcd.hp.com Ed Moore
eharris@synnovation.com Ed Harris
eijkhout@cs.utk.edu
eugene@nas.nasa.gov Eugene N. Miya
ewl@panix.com Emery Lapinski
ex237@n486.exmandato.se ex237
exucsge@exu.ericsson.se Cathy Gearhart
f699@REX.RE.uokhsc.edu Janette Wallis
fainman@pebbles.uswnvg.com Fred Inman
fredt@cts.com Fred Tempereau
g9426181@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca Craig Burley
gaur@hal.cs.uiuc.edu Rajeeva Gaur
gil@cc.gatech.edu Gil Neiger
goodmanj@HELLGATE.CS.NYU.EDU John Goodman
gorman@rintintin.Colorado.EDU Mary Gorman
gpanourg@malthus.acs.ryerson.ca Grace Panourgias
grady@world.std.com Dick Grady
hevesh_c@apollo.hp.com
HSaal@svi.org Harry J. Saal
hsharpe@nova.umd.edu Howard A. Sharpe
huuskone@cc.helsinki.fi Taneli Huuskonen
jackr722@ix.netcom.com Jack Rhondeau Jr.
jeffg@loki.engr.sgi.com Jeff C. Glover
jim@fs.apl.cul.ca Jim Nealon
jjmorris@gandalf.rutgers.edu Joyce Morris
jk55@cornell.edu Jim Karpinski/Jane Koestler
john@r-cube.demon.co.uk John Richards
jsteeves@is.dal.ca Jason Steeves
jtillery@tintagel.dungeon.com jtillery@tintagel.dungeon.com
julie_hakewill@starbase1.caltech.edu Julie Hakewill
J_LADD@delphi.com
k9hi@netcom.com Phil Temples
kenji@reseau.toyonaka.osaka.jp Kenji Rikitake
kerrinp@byron.apana.org.au Kerrin Pine
kstaylor@qualcomm.com Kirk Taylor
ksw1@ukc.ac.uk
kwfrank@ozspace.brisnet.org.au K KWFRANK W Frank
Lantz@physio.wa.com Lantz Rowland
lauraw@meaddata.com Laura Wanke
lculala@slonet.org Linda C. Culala
leganza@usa.net Mark Leganza
lorna@rmtmhs.demon.co.uk Lorna Buchan
markb@cccd.edu Mark Bixby
mcwagner@ix.netcom.com Maxine Wagner
med30065@leonis.nus.sg Tan Min-Han
memson@cix.compulink.co.uk Mike Emson
menin@neb.com Julie Menin
mg@ac.duke.edu Michael Grubb
MIBROOKS@delphi.com MIKE BROOKS
mpreston@netcom.com Mar Preston
ms@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schroeder
nanna@ludd.luth.se Johanna Uhlin
nathan@bwh.harvard.edu Nathan Mehl
nerwick@netcom.com Randy Nerwick
neurolab@pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca Peter Donald
nicholl@shrsys.hslc.org Jamie Nicholl
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri
niko@selway.umt.edu Nicholas A Bartoli
otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu M. Otto
p01050@psilink.com Robert F. Clements
pa150138@utkvm1.utk.edu Tracy L. Carter
parkerd@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca Diana Parker
peterd@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Peter Doell
pjp@pjp386.ih.att.com
PPARKER@TWSUVM.UC.TWSU.EDU Phil Parker
radrayer@panix.com Rebecca Drayer
rdeere@encore.com Roy Deere
reggie@netcom.com Reggie Dwork
rew@moontarz.nuance.com Ryan Waldron
rtusler@cix.compulink.co.uk Robert Tusler
rufinus@cae.wisc.edu
RUTH@ccs4.cc.monash.edu.au Ruth
schaefer@scn.de Rolf Schaefer
schneip@iia.org Paul Schneider
sheetz@math.washington.edu Mary Sheetz
slowney@u.washington.edu Susan Lowney
smz@unive.it Sergio Manzi
somnath@latcs1.lat.oz.au Somnath Ghosh
sproule@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM William J. Sproule
ssj@cnj.digex.net Sanford Jacobs
ssmith@dryad.cs.utsa.edu Sam L. Smith
stamps@westmin.win.net Noreen Palazzo
stcthelib@shrsys.hslc.org Noel S. McFerran
Susan_Finger@WYVERN.CIMDS.RI.CMU.EDU
swagaman@columbus.atlss.lehigh.edu Stephanie Wagaman - ATLSS/RE
swkirch@chrisco.nrl.navy.mil Steve Kirchoefer
T.Robinson@sheffield.ac.uk TIMOTHY ROBINSON
tegtmeie@panix.com John R. Tegtmeier
teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Lani Teshima-Miller
tfl@psp.co.uk Thomas F Lee
tgm@netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams
tmanda@nbnet.nb.ca The Emily/T'Manda Crew
trc@nbnet.nb.ca Robert Cormier
trogers@ednet1.osl.or.gov Ted Rogers
unicorn@RT66.com Unicorn
valiant@ritz.mordor.com Dave
WILLIAM1501@delphi.com
wmdawes@infi.net William Dawes
wmson@equinox.shaysnet.com Mickey Williamson
wray@richmond.infi.net Wray Henderson
Voted No
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archer@frmug.fr.net Vincent Archer
crouchkp@flidh103.delcoelect.com Kenneth P Crouch
david@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu David
gt5139c@prism.gatech.edu Pete 'Happy' Thomas
IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Brent Sutherland
jcmurphy@cadman.cit.buffalo.edu Jeff Murphy
mb@agar.oche.de Marcus Breiing
MHURLEY@delphi.com
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
Abstained
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