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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group misc.taxes (moderates existing group)
unmoderated group talk.political.taxes
RATIONALE: all groups
The existing Usenet newsgroup for discussions on taxes, misc.taxes,
has become loaded with too many articles that are of a political or
tax protestor nature. This noise has restricted the ability of users
to carry on a rational discussion of tax laws as they exist, and
discouraged posting by serious tax professionals. Therefore we feel a
strong need for moderation of this group. Freed from the noise, this
group will also be able to answer, authoritatively and quickly, the
large volume of tax queries from members of the Usenet expected during
the upcoming tax filing season.
There is also a need for a newsgroup for the discussion of the
political and moral aspects of taxation, so we propose the
establishment of a new newsgroup, to be called talk.political.taxes
This newsgroup would be unmoderated and open to tax protestors and
others to discuss whatever they wish about taxes.
CHARTER: misc.taxes
misc.taxes.moderated is for the discussion of taxes, including, but
not limited to, proposed and existing tax laws, regulations and
procedures, among professional tax practitioners and other interested
persons, and for answering queries concerning taxes.
This moderated newsgroup is intended to provide a home for
well-tempered discussions, including, but not limited to, the
following subjects:
1. Current developments in tax law including but not limited
to,court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
actions with tax implications, and proposed laws and actions.
2. The content and effects of existing tax laws, and rulings of
courts at all levels.
3. Professional ethics and professional discipline of tax
professionals.
4. Problems encountered by tax practitioners that may be of
interest to the tax community.
5. First-person anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
concerning encounters they have had with tax practitioners,
the IRS, the courts or other entities which administer
taxes.
6. Queries (including those from non-practitioners) concerning
the content of the tax law, and replies to those posts, so
long as the context of the exchange makes it clear that
**specific legal tax advice is not being provided**.
Responses will be posted in the newsgroup and not sent by
E-mail, so that the response can benefit from peer review
by others in the group.
7. Tax humor (There is such a thing).
The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.
The role of the Moderator
=========================
8. Although no legal relationships are created by this document,
the moderator is expected to act as if she or he were in a
fiduciary relationship with persons reading and posting.
9. The moderator will not permit posts offering tax advice for
remuneration. This rule is not intended to prevent individuals
from publicizing the existence of non-profit organizations
which provide tax counseling and representation.
10. The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
discussions drift too far from 'tax' content, and will close
threads accordingly. The moderator will request voluntary
compliance before taking such actions and will post a notice
notifying the group of any such actions
11. The moderator is encouraged to return posts to senders,
perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
belong in another newsgroup.
12. The moderator will not allow posts that deal with general
questions of social policy, unless they make specific reference
political issues will not be allowed unless they refer to
specific tax aspects of such issues.
13. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts containing
assertions about the current state of tax law which he or she
believes are plainly inaccurate. Any failure of the moderator
to exercise this discretion does not signify the moderator's
agreement with or approval of the post.
14. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on previous
postors. Any failure of the moderator to exercise this
discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement with
or approval of the post.
15 . A committee of tax professionals will be established by the
moderator to act as an appeal comittee to consider any appeals
to the moderator's rulings. Appeals should be directed to the
moderator who will pass them on to the reviewing committee.
Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================
16. A moderator serves until she or he resigns. A moderator may
resign at any time. The moderator is requested to give the
group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly transition.
17. The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks or more
than two months per calendar year.
18. A sole moderator may appoint one or more co-moderators.
Moderators may share their duties in any manner mutually
acceptable. In the event that the group has multiple
moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
paragraph shall apply to all of the the moderators, collectively,
if the context permits.
19. A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
moderator, selects his/her successor. Moderators are
requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
choose not to appoint a successor.
Frequently asked questions (FAQ)
=================================
20. The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) presently used by
the newsgroup misc.taxes will be used by the moderated
newsgroup to avoid duplication of effort. Posters are
encouraged to submit additional FAQs to the moderator.
Amending This Charter
=====================
21. This charter can be amended at any time by following the
procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.
Posting Instructions:
1. Posting should be done in the ordinary manner by using news
software. DO NOT MAIL POSTINGS TO THE MODERATOR.
2. All submissions will either be approved by the moderator, or
rejected and returned to the sender. If you post a message and it
isn't rejected and doesn't appear on misc.taxes.moderated, your news
software is probably broken or misconfigured.
3. The moderator will evaluate each message based on the criteria
listed in the misc.taxes.moderated Charter The following factors
will be considered by the moderator:
a. The percentage of the message devoted primarily to issues
of taxes (as described in the Charter).
b. The amount of quoted material in the message, relative to
the amount of original material added by the poster. Quoted
blocks longer than 22 lines are too long.
c. The degree to which the message is repetitive of prior
messages, including multiple posts of the same article in
different newsgroups.
d. Commercial solicitation (absolutely prohibited).
e. The civility of the message and its *ad hominem* nature.
f. The degree to which the message contains blatantly false
assertions of tax law.
g. The degree to which the message contains assertions
which, while not obviously false, are completely
unsubstantiated.
h. The "value added" by the message to the thread.
4. Generally speaking, the moderator will post a warning message when
a thread is veering away from appropriate subject matter, but the
moderator reserves the right to reject posts without prior warning if
they are blatantly inappropriate.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.taxes
Moderator: Dick Adams <rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu>
Dick Adams, a faculty member at the University of Baltimore, has
volunteered to serve as initial moderator. Additional co-moderators
may be appointed by him after the group is operational.
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: talk.political.taxes
This newsgroup is created for the use of those presently using
misc.taxes, who do not wish to restrict discussuion to existing and
proposed tax laws under the rules set up for misc.taxes.
moderated. Possible subjects for discussion are the legality of, the
need for doing away with or replacing the IRS, status of sovereign
citizens, etc. The group is ummoderated, so all articles are posted,
but posters are asked to refrain from name-calling and the use of
vulgar or obscene language. Specific questions on tax laws,
regulations or procedures are not appropriate for this newsgroup. They
shoud be posted to misc.taxes.moderated.
END CHARTER.
Submitted by: Henry E Sievers, proponent.
From TexTax@aol.com Mon Nov 13 15:02:40 1995
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From: TexTax@aol.com (Hank Sievers)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.taxes reorganization
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group misc.taxes.moderated
unmoderated group misc.taxes.misc (renames misc.taxes)
This is a formal request for discussion regarding the reorganization
of the misc.taxes group into two groups, one moderated and one
unmoderated, to discuss tax issues.
RATIONALE: all groups
The existing Usenet newsgroup for discussions on taxes, misc.taxes,
has become loaded with too many articles that are of a political or
tax protestor nature. this restricts the ability of users to carry on
a rational discussion of tax laws as they exist, and discourages
posting by serious tax professionals. Therefore we feel a strong need
for a moderated tax newsgroup. This new group will also be able to
answer, authoritatively and quickly, the large volume of tax queries
from members of the Usenet expected during the upcoming tax filing
season.
There is also a need for a newsgroup for the discussion of the
political and moral aspects of taxation, so we propose that the old
newsgroup misc.taxes be renamed and established as misc.taxes.misc.
This newsgroup would be unmoderated and open to discussion of all
aspects of taxation, including, but not restricted to, those that are
permitted by the misc.taxes.moderated newsgroup.
instead of this division, we condidered, but rejected, the use of a
moderator for the existing group, because we do not wish to impose
restrictions on those now using the newsgroup for other purposes..
CHARTER: misc.taxes.moderated
misc.taxes.moderated is for the discussion of taxes, including, but
not limited to, proposed and existing tax laws, regulations and
procedures, among professional tax practitioners and other interested
persons, and for answering queries concerning taxes.
This moderated newsgroup is intended to provide a home for
well-tempered discussions, including, but not limited to, the
following subjects:
1. Current developments in tax law including but not limited
to, court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
actions with tax implications, and proposed laws and actions.
2. The content and effects of existing tax laws, and rulings of
courts at all levels.
3. Professional ethics and professional discipline of tax
professionals.
4. Problems encountered by tax practitioners that may be of
interest to the tax community.
5. First-person anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
concerning encounters they have had with tax practitioners,
the IRS, the courts, or other entities which administer
taxes.
6. Queries (including those from non-practitioners) concerning
the content of the tax law, and replies to those posts, so
long as the context of the exchange makes it clear that
**specific legal tax advice is not being provided**.
Responses will be posted in the newsgroup and not sent by
E-mail, so that the response can benefit from peer review
by others in the group and so that other members of the
group can benefit from the response..
7. Tax humor (There is such a thing).
The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.
The role of the Moderator
=========================
8. Although no legal relationships are created by this document,
the moderator is expected to act as if she or he were in a
fiduciary relationship with persons reading and posting.
9. The moderator will not permit posts offering tax advice for
remuneration. This rule is not intended to prevent individuals
from publicizing the existence of non-profit organizations
which provide tax counseling and representation.
10. The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
discussions drift too far from 'tax' content, and will close
threads accordingly. The moderator will request voluntary
compliance before taking such actions and will post a notice
notifying the group of any such actions
11. The moderator is encouraged to return posts to senders,
perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
belong in another newsgroup.
12. The moderator will not allow posts that deal with general
questions of social policy, unless they make specific reference
to existing or proposed tax laws. Political issues will not be
allowed unless they refer to specific tax aspects of such issues.
13. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts containing
assertions about the current state of tax law which he or she
believes are plainly inaccurate. Any failure of the moderator
to exercise this discretion does not signify the moderator's
agreement with or approval of the post.
14. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on previous
postors. Any failure of the moderator to exercise this
discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement with
or approval of the post.
15 . A committee of tax professionals will be established by the
moderator to act as an appeal comittee to consider any appeals
to the moderator's rulings. Appeals should be directed to the
moderator who will pass them on to the reviewing committee.
Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================
16. A moderator serves until she or he resigns. A moderator may
resign at any time. The moderator is requested to give the
group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly transition.
17. The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks or more
than two months per calendar year.
18. A sole moderator may appoint one or more co-moderators.
Moderators may share their duties in any manner mutually
acceptable. In the event that the group has multiple
moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
paragraph shall apply to all of the the moderators, collectively,
if the context permits.
19. A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
moderator, selects his/her successor. Moderators are
requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
choose not to appoint a successor.
Frequently asked questions (FAQ)
=================================
20. The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) presently used by
the newsgroup misc.taxes will be used by the moderated
newsgroup to avoid duplication of effort. Posters are
encouraged to submit additional FAQs to the moderator.
Amending This Charter
=====================
21. This charter can be amended at any time by following the
procedures then in effect for newsgroup creation.
Posting Instructions:
1. Posting should be done in the ordinary manner by using news
software. DO NOT MAIL POSTINGS TO THE MODERATOR.
2. All submissions will either be approved by the moderator, or
rejected and returned to the sender. If you post a message and it
isn't rejected and doesn't appear on misc.taxes.moderated, your news
software is probably broken or misconfigured.
3. The moderator will evaluate each message based on the criteria
listed in the misc.taxes.moderated Charter The following factors
will be considered by the moderator:
a. The percentage of the message devoted primarily to issues
of taxes (as described in the Charter).
b. The amount of quoted material in the message, relative to
the amount of original material added by the poster. Quoted
blocks longer than 22 lines are too long.
c. The degree to which the message is repetitive of prior
messages, including multiple posts of the same article in
different newsgroups.
d. Commercial solicitation (absolutely prohibited).
e. The civility of the message and its *ad hominem* nature.
f. The degree to which the message contains blatantly false
assertions of tax law.
g. The degree to which the message contains assertions
which, while not obviously false, are completely
unsubstantiated.
h. The "value added" by the message to the thread.
4. Generally speaking, the moderator will post a warning message when
a thread is veering away from appropriate subject matter, but the
moderator reserves the right to reject posts without prior warning if
they are blatantly inappropriate.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.taxes.moderated
Moderator: Dick Adams <rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu>
Dick Adams, a faculty member at the University of Baltimore, has
volunteered to serve as initial moderator. Additional co-moderators
may be appointed by him after the group is operational.
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.misc
This newsgroup is created for the use of those presently using
misc.taxes, who do not wish to restrict discussuion to existing and
proposed tax laws under the rules for misc.taxes.moderated. Possible
subjects for discussion are the legality of the IRS and/or taxes, the
need for doing away with or replacing the IRS, status of *sovereign*
citizens, etc. The group is ummoderated, so all articles are posted,
but posters are asked to refrain from name-calling and the use of
vulgar or obscene language.
END CHARTER.
Proponent: TexTax@aol.com (Henry E Sievers)
From spb@ntrs.com Mon Nov 20 20:07:52 1995
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From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com>
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Subject: CFV: misc.taxes.{misc,moderated}
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.taxes.misc (renames misc.taxes)
moderated group misc.taxes.moderated
Newsgroups lines:
misc.taxes.misc Comments and queries about all aspects of taxation.
misc.taxes.moderated Tax professionals meeting place and answers to queries. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Dec 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Henry Sievers <TexTax@AOL.com>
Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com>
RATIONALE: all groups
The existing Usenet newsgroup for discussions on taxes, misc.taxes,
has become loaded with too many articles that are of a political or
tax protestor nature. This restricts the ability of users to carry on
rational discussions of tax laws as they exist, and discourages
posting by serious tax professionals. Therefore we feel a strong need
for a moderated tax newsgroup. This new group will also be able to
answer, authoritatively and quickly, the large volume of tax queries
from members of the Usenet expected during the upcoming tax filing
season.
The existing misc.taxes newsgroup will remain unmoderated. and open
to tax protestors and others to discuss whatever aspects of taxes that
they wish to. To distinguish this group from the new moderated group,
the name will be changed from misc.taxes to misc.taxes.misc.
Instead of this division, we condidered, but rejected, the use of a
moderator for the existing group, because we do not wish to impose
restrictions on those now using the newsgroup for other purposes.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.moderated
Misc.taxes.moderated is for the discussion of taxes, including,
but not limited to, proposed and existing tax laws, regulations
and procedures, among professional tax practitioners and other
interested persons, and for answering queries concerning taxes.
This newsgroup is intended to provide a home for well-tempered
discussions, including, but not limited to, the following
subjects:
1. Current developments in tax law including but not limited
to, court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
actions with tax implications, and proposed laws and actions.
2. The content and effects of existing tax laws, and rulings of
courts at all levels.
3. Professional ethics and professional discipline of tax
professionals.
4. Problems encountered by tax practitioners that may be of
interest to the tax community.
5. First-person anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
concerning encounters they have had with tax practitioners,
the IRS, the courts or other entities which administer
taxes.
6. Queries (including those from non-practitioners) concerning
the content of the tax law, and replies to those posts, so
long as the context of the exchange makes it clear that
**specific legal tax advice is not being provided**.
Responses will be posted in the newsgroup and not sent by
E-mail, so that the response can benefit from peer review
by others in the group.
7. Tax humor (There is such a thing).
The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.
The role of the Moderator
=========================
8. Although no legal relationships are created by this document,
the moderator is expected to act as if she or he were in a
fiduciary relationship with persons reading and posting.
9. The moderator will not permit posts offering tax advice for
remuneration. This rule is not intended to prevent individuals
from publicizing the existence of non-profit organizations
which provide tax counseling and representation.
10. The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
discussions drift too far from 'tax' content, and will close
threads accordingly. The moderator will request voluntary
compliance before taking such actions and will post a notice
notifying the group of any such actions
11. The moderator is encouraged to return posts to senders,
perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
belong in another newsgroup.
12. The moderator will not allow posts that deal with general
questions of social policy, unless they make specific reference
political issues will not be allowed unless they refer to
specific tax aspects of such issues.
13. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts containing
assertions about the current state of tax law which he or she
believes are plainly inaccurate. Any failure of the moderator
to exercise this discretion does not signify the moderator's
agreement with or approval of the post.
14. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on previous
postors. Any failure of the moderator to exercise this
discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement with
or approval of the post.
15 . A committee of tax professionals will be established by the
moderator to act as an appeal comittee to consider any appeals
to the moderator's rulings. Appeals should be directed to the
moderator who will pass them on to the reviewing committee.
Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================
16. A moderator serves until she or he resigns. A moderator may
resign at any time. The moderator is requested to give the
group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly transition.
17. The moderator may designate a substitute moderator to serve
for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks or more
than two months per calendar year.
18. A sole moderator may appoint one or more co-moderators.
Moderators may share their duties in any manner mutually
acceptable. In the event that the group has multiple
moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
paragraphs shall apply to all of the the moderators,
collectively, if the context permits.
19. A resigning moderator, whether or not she/he is a sole
moderator, selects his/her successor. Moderators are
requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
choose not to appoint a successor.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.misc
This newsgroup is created for the use of those presently using
misc.taxes, who do not wish to restrict discussuion as proposed
under the rules set up for misc.taxes.moderated. Possible subjects
for discussion are the legality of, the need for doing away with or
replacing the IRS, status of sovereign citizens, etc. The group is
ummoderated, so all posts concerning taxes are welcome, but
posters are asked to refrain from name-calling and the use of
vulgar or obscene language.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.taxes.moderated
Moderator: Dick Adams <RADAMS@ubmail.ubalt.edu>
Administrative contact address: radams@ubmail.ubalt.edu
Article submission address: taxes-request@ubmail.ubalt.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
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From spb@ntrs.com Mon Nov 27 12:09:32 1995
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From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com>
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Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.taxes.{misc,moderated}
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group misc.taxes.misc (renames misc.taxes)
moderated group misc.taxes.moderated
Newsgroups lines:
misc.taxes.misc Comments and queries about all aspects of taxation.
misc.taxes.moderated Tax professionals meeting place and answers to queries. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Dec 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Henry Sievers <TexTax@AOL.com>
Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com>
Note from votetaker: The first CFV contained a typo in the email address
for the moderator. The address in this CFV, rdadams@ubmail.ubalt.edu, is
the correct address.
RATIONALE: all groups
The existing Usenet newsgroup for discussions on taxes, misc.taxes,
has become loaded with too many articles that are of a political or
tax protestor nature. This restricts the ability of users to carry on
rational discussions of tax laws as they exist, and discourages
posting by serious tax professionals. Therefore we feel a strong need
for a moderated tax newsgroup. This new group will also be able to
answer, authoritatively and quickly, the large volume of tax queries
from members of the Usenet expected during the upcoming tax filing
season.
The existing misc.taxes newsgroup will remain unmoderated. and open
to tax protestors and others to discuss whatever aspects of taxes that
they wish to. To distinguish this group from the new moderated group,
the name will be changed from misc.taxes to misc.taxes.misc.
Instead of this division, we condidered, but rejected, the use of a
moderator for the existing group, because we do not wish to impose
restrictions on those now using the newsgroup for other purposes.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.moderated
Misc.taxes.moderated is for the discussion of taxes, including,
but not limited to, proposed and existing tax laws, regulations
and procedures, among professional tax practitioners and other
interested persons, and for answering queries concerning taxes.
This newsgroup is intended to provide a home for well-tempered
discussions, including, but not limited to, the following
subjects:
1. Current developments in tax law including but not limited
to, court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
actions with tax implications, and proposed laws and actions.
2. The content and effects of existing tax laws, and rulings of
courts at all levels.
3. Professional ethics and professional discipline of tax
professionals.
4. Problems encountered by tax practitioners that may be of
interest to the tax community.
5. First-person anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
concerning encounters they have had with tax practitioners,
the IRS, the courts or other entities which administer
taxes.
6. Queries (including those from non-practitioners) concerning
the content of the tax law, and replies to those posts, so
long as the context of the exchange makes it clear that
**specific legal tax advice is not being provided**.
Responses will be posted in the newsgroup and not sent by
E-mail, so that the response can benefit from peer review
by others in the group.
7. Tax humor (There is such a thing).
The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.
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=========================
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the moderator is expected to act as if she or he were in a
fiduciary relationship with persons reading and posting.
9. The moderator will not permit posts offering tax advice for
remuneration. This rule is not intended to prevent individuals
from publicizing the existence of non-profit organizations
which provide tax counseling and representation.
10. The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
discussions drift too far from 'tax' content, and will close
threads accordingly. The moderator will request voluntary
compliance before taking such actions and will post a notice
notifying the group of any such actions
11. The moderator is encouraged to return posts to senders,
perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
belong in another newsgroup.
12. The moderator will not allow posts that deal with general
questions of social policy, unless they make specific reference
political issues will not be allowed unless they refer to
specific tax aspects of such issues.
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assertions about the current state of tax law which he or she
believes are plainly inaccurate. Any failure of the moderator
to exercise this discretion does not signify the moderator's
agreement with or approval of the post.
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unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on previous
postors. Any failure of the moderator to exercise this
discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement with
or approval of the post.
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moderator to act as an appeal comittee to consider any appeals
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moderator who will pass them on to the reviewing committee.
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requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
choose not to appoint a successor.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.misc
This newsgroup is created for the use of those presently using
misc.taxes, who do not wish to restrict discussuion as proposed
under the rules set up for misc.taxes.moderated. Possible subjects
for discussion are the legality of, the need for doing away with or
replacing the IRS, status of sovereign citizens, etc. The group is
ummoderated, so all posts concerning taxes are welcome, but
posters are asked to refrain from name-calling and the use of
vulgar or obscene language.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.taxes.moderated
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misc.taxes reorg Bounce List - No need to revote
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chalkbd@q.continuum.net Ed Kolar
From spb@ntrs.com Tue Dec 12 22:32:10 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.taxes
Subject: RESULT: misc.taxes.{misc,moderated}
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RESULT
unmoderated group misc.taxes.misc (renames misc.taxes) fails 125:40
moderated group misc.taxes.moderated passes 174:25
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misc.taxes reorg results - 219 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
125 40 : Yes No : No : misc.taxes.misc (replaces misc.taxes)
174 25 : Yes Yes : Yes : misc.taxes.moderated
4 invalid votes
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misc.taxes.misc Comments and queries about all aspects of taxation.
misc.taxes.moderated Tax professionals meeting place and answers to queries. (Moderated)
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Dec 1995.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Henry Sievers <TexTax@AOL.com>
Votetaker: Steve Bonine <spb@ntrs.com>
RATIONALE: all groups
The existing Usenet newsgroup for discussions on taxes, misc.taxes,
has become loaded with too many articles that are of a political or
tax protestor nature. This restricts the ability of users to carry on
rational discussions of tax laws as they exist, and discourages
posting by serious tax professionals. Therefore we feel a strong need
for a moderated tax newsgroup. This new group will also be able to
answer, authoritatively and quickly, the large volume of tax queries
from members of the Usenet expected during the upcoming tax filing
season.
The existing misc.taxes newsgroup will remain unmoderated. and open
to tax protestors and others to discuss whatever aspects of taxes that
they wish to. To distinguish this group from the new moderated group,
the name will be changed from misc.taxes to misc.taxes.misc.
Instead of this division, we condidered, but rejected, the use of a
moderator for the existing group, because we do not wish to impose
restrictions on those now using the newsgroup for other purposes.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.moderated
Misc.taxes.moderated is for the discussion of taxes, including,
but not limited to, proposed and existing tax laws, regulations
and procedures, among professional tax practitioners and other
interested persons, and for answering queries concerning taxes.
This newsgroup is intended to provide a home for well-tempered
discussions, including, but not limited to, the following
subjects:
1. Current developments in tax law including but not limited
to, court decisions, legislative enactments, and executive
actions with tax implications, and proposed laws and actions.
2. The content and effects of existing tax laws, and rulings of
courts at all levels.
3. Professional ethics and professional discipline of tax
professionals.
4. Problems encountered by tax practitioners that may be of
interest to the tax community.
5. First-person anecdotes and commentary by non-practitioners
concerning encounters they have had with tax practitioners,
the IRS, the courts or other entities which administer
taxes.
6. Queries (including those from non-practitioners) concerning
the content of the tax law, and replies to those posts, so
long as the context of the exchange makes it clear that
**specific legal tax advice is not being provided**.
Responses will be posted in the newsgroup and not sent by
E-mail, so that the response can benefit from peer review
by others in the group.
7. Tax humor (There is such a thing).
The ordering above is for convenience only and does not reflect a
preference ordering among the various topics.
The role of the Moderator
=========================
8. Although no legal relationships are created by this document,
the moderator is expected to act as if she or he were in a
fiduciary relationship with persons reading and posting.
9. The moderator will not permit posts offering tax advice for
remuneration. This rule is not intended to prevent individuals
from publicizing the existence of non-profit organizations
which provide tax counseling and representation.
10. The moderator will use his or her discretion to decide when
discussions drift too far from 'tax' content, and will close
threads accordingly. The moderator will request voluntary
compliance before taking such actions and will post a notice
notifying the group of any such actions
11. The moderator is encouraged to return posts to senders,
perhaps with a suggestion of a more appropriate newsgroup,
if the posts are those that he or she believes more properly
belong in another newsgroup.
12. The moderator will not allow posts that deal with general
questions of social policy, unless they make specific reference
political issues will not be allowed unless they refer to
specific tax aspects of such issues.
13. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts containing
assertions about the current state of tax law which he or she
believes are plainly inaccurate. Any failure of the moderator
to exercise this discretion does not signify the moderator's
agreement with or approval of the post.
14. The moderator will have discretion to reject posts which are
unduly repetitive and/or contain personal attacks on previous
postors. Any failure of the moderator to exercise this
discretion does not signify the moderator's agreement with
or approval of the post.
15 . A committee of tax professionals will be established by the
moderator to act as an appeal comittee to consider any appeals
to the moderator's rulings. Appeals should be directed to the
moderator who will pass them on to the reviewing committee.
Moderator Selection and Replacement
===================================
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resign at any time. The moderator is requested to give the
group adequate notice in order to ensure an orderly transition.
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for periods of not more than four consecutive weeks or more
than two months per calendar year.
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moderators, all references to a sole moderator in the above
paragraphs shall apply to all of the the moderators,
collectively, if the context permits.
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moderator, selects his/her successor. Moderators are
requested to consider the opinions of readers of the group
when choosing their successors. A resigning co-moderator
may, with the unanimous consent of the other moderators,
choose not to appoint a successor.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: misc.taxes.misc
This newsgroup is created for the use of those presently using
misc.taxes, who do not wish to restrict discussuion as proposed
under the rules set up for misc.taxes.moderated. Possible subjects
for discussion are the legality of, the need for doing away with or
replacing the IRS, status of sovereign citizens, etc. The group is
ummoderated, so all posts concerning taxes are welcome, but
posters are asked to refrain from name-calling and the use of
vulgar or obscene language.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.taxes.moderated
Moderator: Dick Adams <RDADAMS@ubmail.ubalt.edu>
Administrative contact address: radams@ubmail.ubalt.edu
Article submission address: taxes-request@ubmail.ubalt.edu
END MODERATOR INFO.
misc.taxes reorg Final Vote Ack
misc.taxes.moderated ----+
misc.taxes.misc (replaces misc.taxes) ---+|
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GEOANTHONY@aol.com George Anthony -Y
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johnsig@infohwy.com John Sigler YY
jonatha@ibm.net Jonathan Edwards -Y
joseph@cis.ohio-state.edu Sudish Joseph YY
JoshDeWitt@aol.com Joshua D. Adams -Y
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Karl.Tombre@loria.fr Karl Tombre NN
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kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn YY
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lancec@cats.ucsc.edu Lance K. Chun YY
lavender@email.unc.edu Mark Lavender YY
leschwer@crl.com Leonard E. Schwer YY
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Lin1041@aol.com Linda S. Bleil, EA -Y
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ljwebb@tenet.edu Lois J. Webb YY
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luriep@tiac.net Pete Lurie YY
MarkMilem@aol.com Mark Milem --
MBRICE@UBmail.ubalt.edu Michael R. Brice YY
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mgroves@ix.netcom.com Mark P. Groves, JD, CPA -Y
moe@radix.net Ted Frank YY
mozel@postoffice.ptd.net Alanna Mozel YY
MSchnall@msn.com Matthew Schnall -Y
nelsonk@ix.netcom.com Ken Nelson YY
npm@nmcs.com Nancy P. Milligan YY
npoyer@cce.cornell.edu Nona Poyer YY
orc@pell.com david parsons NY
padden@intac.com H. Padden YY
patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti NN
paulmaf@eskimo.com Paul Maffia YY
paxil@interlog.com Trevor Tymchuk YY
phaedrus@halcyon.com Mark Phaedrus YY
pimentel@roots.ultranet.com John Pimentel YY
pjudge@netvoyage.net Linda M. Judge YY
pshuang@MIT.EDU Ping Huang YY
psmall@wolfenet.com Philip Small Y-
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien -N
pwsmith@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us Bill Smith -Y
r.dionne@ix.netcom.com Ronald Dionne Y-
r1@ix.netcom.com Steven Rosen -Y
RDADAMS@UBmail.ubalt.edu Richard D. Adams, CPA YY
richard.perry@hq.com Richard Perry YY
richw@opentext.com Rich Wales YY
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller YY
RJONES@UBmail.ubalt.edu Rebecca L. Jones YY
rlcarr@animato.pn.com Rich Carreiro YY
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sasbmt@unx.sas.com Bruce Tindall -Y
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scs@eskimo.com Steve Summit N-
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sgeier@u.washington.edu Susan Geier YY
shag@emanon.net Dan "Shag" Birchall YY
simons@netcom.com Roger Simons YY
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stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown NN
stbrown@nacs.net Stan Brown NY
steveny@panix.com Steven Bookman -Y
stick@shepherd.escalade.com J. Stick YY
stu@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz NN
SueKupper@aol.com Susan J. Kupper, Ph.D. YY
tar@ISI.EDU Tom Russ YY
tatayr@pop.iquest.net Rudolph J. Tatay YY
TaxService@aol.com John H. Fisher -Y
taxthink@ix.netcom.com Mary Ann Chaffin, EA -Y
TexTax@aol.com Henry E Sievers YY
thom@rust.net Thom Byxbe YY
thomasg@maroon.tc.umn.edu Thomas D. Gasser YY
TJASKIEW@us.oracle.com TJASKIEW.US.ORACLE.COM Y-
tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson YY
tom@webads.com Thomas W. Bassett YY
tomhorn@magick.net Tom Horn -Y
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triffle@iag.net Thomas R. Riffle, CPA YY
TWCOLLINS@UBmail.ubalt.edu tawni collins YY
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wayne.welty@the-matrix.com WAYNE WELTY <wayne.welty@the-matrix.com> YY
wayner@metronet.com Wayne Ross YY
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius NN
WineCPA1@aol.com Michael A. Murray >> YY
WMACKEY@MUVMS6.MU.WVNET.EDU William J. Mackey (wmackey@muvms6.mu.wvnet.e YY
wmarsden@mhc.mtholyoke.edu Wendy Marsden YY
wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu Arthur Wouk YY
wysocki@datalife.com Chris Wysocki YY
xanthian@qualcomm.com Kent Paul Dolan YY
xhounds@crl.com Rich Crosby NN
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