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From ian@pipex.net Fri Feb 4 16:10:55 1994
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From: ian@pipex.net (Ian Phillipps)
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Subject: RFD: misc.test.moderated moderated
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This is a request for discussion for a new Usenet newsgroup,
misc.test.moderated.
The objective of this newsgroup is to allow the testing of posting to a
moderated group, without the need to impose on the goodwill of existing
moderators.
The group is to be moderated.
Voting
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued later in the same newsgroups as
this posting. This is not the time to send in votes.
Rationale
The existing group misc.test allows news system administrators to test
propogation from their site, and a number of sites will auto-reply to
messages on this group. However, there is currently no way for a news
administrator to test the mechanism for posting to moderated groups
without actually doing so.
This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places for
discussion of news software configuration and problems.
The moderation policy will be one or both of:
(A) Successful postings will be greeted by a reply, in email,
indicating that the posting was a success, or pointing out problems
in the headers as appropriate. No articles will actually appear on
the group from the moderator, except for bounces as detailed
below. Any postings that do, in fact, appear, will be replied to
indicating that there is a fault with their news software.
Postings whose reply addresses are ineffective will be advertised
on the group.
(B) Successful postings will be approved and posted in the normal way,
but with the body of the message replaced by a text indicating
success, and the purpose of the group. Postings not approved by
the moderator will be cancelled, and the originators emailed.
I shall select one of these for the Call for Votes, depending on the
consensus of the discussion.
The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <tale@uunet.uu.net> list
of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites advertising
that they forward moderators' mail. This list already includes
pipex.net.
It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group, should policy (B) be adopted.
It is hoped that the writers of news transport and reading software
will draw the attention of news administrators to this group.
I am prepared to act as moderator; if approved, I intend to delegate
the job to an automaton as soon as possible.
Ian
From ian@pipex.net Tue Feb 15 11:06:12 1994
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From: ian@pipex.net (Ian Phillipps)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.test.moderated moderated
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This is a request for discussion for a new Usenet newsgroup,
misc.test.moderated.
The objective of this newsgroup is to allow the testing of posting to a
moderated group, without the need to impose on the goodwill of existing
moderators.
The group is to be moderated.
Voting
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued later in the same newsgroups as
this posting. This is not the time to send in votes.
Rationale
The existing group misc.test allows news system administrators to test
propogation from their site, and a number of sites will auto-reply to
messages on this group. However, there is currently no way for a news
administrator to test the mechanism for posting to moderated groups
without actually doing so.
This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places for
discussion of news software configuration and problems.
The moderation policy will be one or both of:
(A) Successful postings will be greeted by a reply, in email,
indicating that the posting was a success, or pointing out problems
in the headers as appropriate. No articles will actually appear on
the group from the moderator, except for bounces as detailed
below. Any postings that do, in fact, appear, will be replied to
indicating that there is a fault with their news software.
Postings whose reply addresses are ineffective will be advertised
on the group.
(B) Successful postings will be approved and posted in the normal way,
but with the body of the message replaced by a text indicating
success, and the purpose of the group. Postings not approved by
the moderator will be cancelled, and the originators emailed.
I shall select one of these for the Call for Votes, depending on the
consensus of the discussion.
The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <tale@uunet.uu.net> list
of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites advertising
that they forward moderators' mail. This list already includes
pipex.net.
It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group, should policy (B) be adopted.
It is hoped that the writers of news transport and reading software
will draw the attention of news administrators to this group.
I am prepared to act as moderator; if approved, I intend to delegate
the job to an automaton as soon as possible.
Ian
From roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 23 15:07:06 1994
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From: roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: CFV: misc.test.moderated moderated
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Date: 22 Feb 1994 23:06:37 -0500
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
Moderated group misc.test.moderated
Newsgroups line:
misc.test.moderated Testing of posting to moderated groups (moderated)
Votes must be received by 16 March 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact voting@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov. For questions about
the proposed group, contact Ian Phillipps <ian@pipex.net>.
MODERATOR
Ian Phillipps <ian@pipex.net>
Submission Address: news-testmod@pipex.net
CHARTER
The group misc.test.moderated complements misc.test, by providing a
way for news administrators to test the mechanism for posting to
moderated groups. The group will be moderated.
This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places
for discussion of news software configuration and problems.
Postings received by the moderator will be replied to by email,
indicating success or reasons for failure. Postings received
without a valid return email address will be advertised on the
group so that the site concerned may learn of their configuration
problem. Testing of news reception is not a function of this group,
so there is no need to send successfully-posted articles to all of
the Usenet.
There will be a regular posting to the group by the moderator
explaining its purpose.
The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <tale@uunet.uu.net>
list of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites
advertising that they forward moderators' mail. These sites are
listed in the regular posting "How to Construct the Mailpaths File"
posted to news.admin.misc and news.lists.
It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group. It is hoped that the writers of news
transport and reading software will draw the attention of news
administrators to this group.
The moderator will be ian@pipex.net (Ian Phillipps), who may
discharge his duties using an automatic reply system. The
submission address for the group will be news-testmod@pipex.net.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on misc.test.moderated
I vote NO on misc.test.moderated
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person and per account will be counted. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
The second CFV will include a list of those whose email acknowledgement
bounced.
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Brenda J. Roder (roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov)
From roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov Wed Mar 9 23:43:52 1994
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From: roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov (Brenda J. Roder)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.test.moderated moderated
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
Moderated group misc.test.moderated
Newsgroups line:
misc.test.moderated Testing of posting to moderated groups (moderated)
Votes must be received by 16 March 1994, 23:59:59 GMT.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact voting@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov. For questions about
the proposed group, contact Ian Phillipps <ian@pipex.net>.
MODERATOR
Ian Phillipps <ian@pipex.net>
Submission Address: news-testmod@pipex.net
CHARTER
The group misc.test.moderated complements misc.test, by providing a
way for news administrators to test the mechanism for posting to
moderated groups. The group will be moderated.
This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places
for discussion of news software configuration and problems.
Postings received by the moderator will be replied to by email,
indicating success or reasons for failure. Postings received
without a valid return email address will be advertised on the
group so that the site concerned may learn of their configuration
problem. Testing of news reception is not a function of this group,
so there is no need to send successfully-posted articles to all of
the Usenet.
There will be a regular posting to the group by the moderator
explaining its purpose.
The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <tale@uunet.uu.net>
list of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites
advertising that they forward moderators' mail. These sites are
listed in the regular posting "How to Construct the Mailpaths File"
posted to news.admin.misc and news.lists.
It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group. It is hoped that the writers of news
transport and reading software will draw the attention of news
administrators to this group.
The moderator will be ian@pipex.net (Ian Phillipps), who may
discharge his duties using an automatic reply system. The
submission address for the group will be news-testmod@pipex.net.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on misc.test.moderated
I vote NO on misc.test.moderated
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person and per account will be counted. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
Email acknowledgements (as of 2 Mar 1994) to the following people bounced:
--- NONE ---
--
Brenda J. Roder (roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov)
From roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov Tue Mar 22 20:14:52 1994
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From: roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov (Brenda J. Roder)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,news.admin.technical,news.software.b
Subject: RESULT: misc.test.moderated moderated passes 123:12
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RESULT
moderated group misc.test.moderated passes 123:12
There were 123 YES votes and 12 NO votes, for a total of 135 valid votes.
There were 3 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 16 Mar 1994.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.
Vote-taker's address: voting@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov (Brenda J. Roder)
Group proponent's address: ian@pipex.net (Ian Phillipps)
Newsgroups line:
misc.test.moderated Testing of posting to moderated groups (moderated)
MODERATOR
Ian Phillipps <ian@pipex.net>
Submission Address: news-testmod@pipex.net
CHARTER
The group misc.test.moderated complements misc.test, by providing a
way for news administrators to test the mechanism for posting to
moderated groups. The group will be moderated.
This is not a group for discussion of any sort. Newsgroups in the
news.admin and news.software hierarchies provide suitable places
for discussion of news software configuration and problems.
Postings received by the moderator will be replied to by email,
indicating success or reasons for failure. Postings received
without a valid return email address will be advertised on the
group so that the site concerned may learn of their configuration
problem. Testing of news reception is not a function of this group,
so there is no need to send successfully-posted articles to all of
the Usenet.
There will be a regular posting to the group by the moderator
explaining its purpose.
The news group will appear in David Lawrence's <tale@uunet.uu.net>
list of moderators, and will therefore be supported by the sites
advertising that they forward moderators' mail. These sites are
listed in the regular posting "How to Construct the Mailpaths File"
posted to news.admin.misc and news.lists.
It is requested that the misc.test echo sites do not auto-reply to
postings in this group. It is hoped that the writers of news
transport and reading software will draw the attention of news
administrators to this group.
The moderator will be ian@pipex.net (Ian Phillipps), who may
discharge his duties using an automatic reply system. The
submission address for the group will be news-testmod@pipex.net.
VOTE ACK
***** Please don't use this voting list to generate a mailing list (neither the
yes or no votes) -- voters are not necessarily interested in the topic *****
moderated group misc.test.moderated Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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agulbra@nvg.unit.no
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA
Alan.Thew@liverpool.ac.uk Alan Thew
alanc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU Alan Coopersmith
andras@concave.cs.wits.ac.za Andras Salamon
andyl@harlequin.com Andy Latto
anne@alcor.concordia.ca Anne Bennett
Arthur.Chance@Smallworld.co.uk Arthur Chance
ault@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com Arthur Rubin
barr@pop.psu.edu David Barr
bennett@planet8.sp.paramax.com Dale Bennett
bj@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
BOB.RAY@tstation.mn.org BOB RAY
bochner@das.harvard.edu
buglady@bronze.lcs.mit.edu Aliza R. Panitz
ceb4@eng.cam.ac.uk Caroline Blackmun
cgarnett@unix.amherst.edu Craig Garnett
charding@turing.raynet.com Chuck Harding x2435
chris@rivers.dra.hmg.gb Christopher Samuel
ckd@kei.com Christopher Davis
cliftonr@netcom.com Pope Clifton
cos@cs.brandeis.edu Ofer Inbar
cpferron@pulsar.cs.hh.ab.com Paul Ferroni
cudep@csv.warwick.ac.uk Ian Dickinson
dales@cs.umb.edu Dale A. Smoak
daniel@hparc.eurocontrol.fr Daniel Hannigan
dansachs@panix.com Dan Sachs
davidsen@tmr.com Bill Davidsen
dbd@utkux.utcc.utk.edu
dbfunk@icaen.uiowa.edu David B Funk
dmurphy@cwa.com Dan Murphy
elrond@imladris.frmug.fr.net Bertrand Petit
fkk@stasys.sta.sub.org Frank Kaefer
forbes@ihlpf.att.com
fuy1@gl.umbc.edu Francis A Uy
galibero@mines.u-nancy.fr Galibert Olivier
Geoff.Ballinger@edinburgh.ac.uk
geta@saathi.ncst.ernet.in Ms. Geetanjali Sampemane
graaff@duticai.IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL Hans de Graaff
grabiner@math.harvard.edu David Grabiner
Gregor.Herrmann@uibk.ac.at Gregor Herrmann
griffin@admaix.sunydutchess.edu Patrick J. P. Griffin
heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu Klaus
helen@nomad.urich.edu Helen C. O'Boyle
hrose@rocza.kei.com Helen T. Rose Davis
ian@pipex.net ian
idod@bga.com Ido Dubrawsky
iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk Ian Jackson
jan@bagend.atl.ga.us Jan Isley
jbreed@doink.edaal.ingr.com Jim Reed
jburks@promus.com
jepler@herbie.unl.edu Jeff Epler
jik@security.ov.com Jonathan I. Kamens
jimj@eecs.umich.edu Jim Jewett
jls@atglab.atg.com Jerome Schneider
jmaynard@nyx10.cs.du.edu Jay Maynard
jml4@cus.cam.ac.uk John Line
johna@a-k.boston.ma.us John Adams
jpc@avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
jra@wti.com Jim Atkinson
jrmt@ukc.ac.uk Jon Thackray
jrufinus@students.wisc.edu
jtbell@cs1.presby.edu Jon Bell
karl@grebyn.com Karl A. Nyberg
kozlowsk@acs.ucalgary.ca
kranitz@sol.med.ge.com Wesley Kranitz x7-4409
L15D@ZFN.uni-bremen.de Martin Schroeder
maine@altair.dfrf.nasa.gov Richard Maine
malb@boojum.ee.uts.edu.au Malcolm Butler
marc@world.std.com Marc A Dashevsky
maus@IO.COM maus
maziere1@das.harvard.edu
mbm@dsbc.icl.co.uk Malcolm Mladenovic
MERRILL@stsci.edu Clark
MFROOMKI@umiami.ir.miami.edu Michael Froomkin
mg@ac.duke.edu Michael Grubb
miked@edinburgh.ac.uk
miltonm@bga.com Milton D. Miller II
misar@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu Michael J Kovacs
mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
murali@magnet.fsu.edu Murali Chaparala
neil@booth.com Neil Wilson
neveld@dmapub.dma.org David A. Nevel
njs@watson.ibm.com Nick Simicich
norbert@twinski.toppoint.de Norbert Hoffmann
ole.svendsen@sds.multinett.telemax.no Ole Svendsen
peter@manorcon.demon.co.uk Peter Sullivan
pierre@shell.Portal.COM Pierre Uszynski
propach@cats.ucsc.edu
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn
rem@BTR.Com Robert Elton Maas, 21 years experience programming
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
rjones@us.oracle.com Roger.B.Jones@us.oracle.com, "Jr.
rlb0p@holmes.acc.virginia.edu Gina Bull
rob@bradco.sbay.org Rob Bradshaw
rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca Robert Macfarlane
robert.may@rd.eng.bbc.co.uk Rob May
rtw@mtuxj.att.com
russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Russell Schulz
S.R.E.Turner@statslab.cam.ac.uk
schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov Stefan Chakerian
schweppe@bumetb.bu.edu Edmund Schweppe
scott@truevision.com Scott Stevens
shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com Lynda L. True
skb@swlvx2.msd.ray.com
swildner@channelz.gun.de Sascha Wildner
taft@cs.unc.edu Todd D. Taft
TERRY@spcvxa.spc.edu Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr
tomc@kendeco.com Tom Cross
tsurmacz@sun1000.ci.pwr.wroc.pl Tomasz Surmacz
urf@ki.icl.se Urban Fredriksson
urlichs@smurf.noris.de Matthias Urlichs
usbill@ustores.missouri.edu
verch@cedar.buffalo.edu Jason Verch
walra%moacs11@NL.net Waldi Ravens
wb@roka.de Wilhelm Buehler
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
wright_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Yadallee@Gallif.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee
yarbrda@moose.gdss.grumman.com Danny Yarbrough
yduj@harlequin.com Judy Anderson
Voted No
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atellez@seas.gwu.edu Andrew Tellez
bspencer@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca Brian SPENCER
drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu Rebecca Drayer
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan
hucke@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu Matt Hucke
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu Lonadar the Wanderer
noyd@u.washington.edu Steven Noyd Jones
smarry@turing.toronto.edu Marc Moorcroft
sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu Sridhar Venkataraman
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
Votes in error
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ameins@ams.on-luebeck.de Alexander Meins
! No vote statement in message
bill.hileman@paonline.com
! No vote statement in message
root@linux.demon.co.uk John Phillips
! Invalid address
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Brenda J. Roder (roder@brenda.jpl.nasa.gov)
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