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From phipps@hep.physics.mcgill.ca Wed Apr 28 18:54:16 1993
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From: phipps@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Martin Phipps)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.comics.creative
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION:
of the creation of a newsgroup called "rec.arts.comics.creative".
PURPOSE:
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to write
into existing storylines although it is strongly recommended that
they do so in a way that doesn't inconvenience the writer who's
storyline you have written into.
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
characters from actual comic books as this would constitute copyright
infringement.
RATIONALE:
There exists a thriving alt group called "alt.comics.lnh" which supports
this kind of material. This group is not available on all newsreaders
however and there is interest amongst people reading "rec.arts.comics.misc"
to create a new group to avoid having people crosspost to that group.
NEWSGROUP CREATION:
Although there is probably sufficient interest in the creation of this
newsgroup to warrant holding a vote this spring, it is suspected that a
considerable number of people who would be interested in this group are
in fact students who would lose access to the net before such a vote
would go ahead. On the other hand, it is equally true that it would be
ideal if the new group were to come into existence during the summer
so that it would be available for students returning in the fall.
--
Martin Phipps * "Imitation is
aka Deja Dude * the sincerest
The CeLiNeFan * form of flattery"
From phipps@hep.physics.mcgill.ca Wed Aug 18 15:51:36 1993
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From: phipps@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Martin Phipps)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.comics.creative
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Date: 18 Aug 1993 13:31:14 -0400
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION:
of the creation of a newsgroup called "rec.arts.comics.creative".
PURPOSE:
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to write
into existing storylines although it is strongly recommended that
they do so in a way that doesn't inconvenience the writer who's
storyline you have written into.
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
copyright infringement.
RATIONALE:
There exists a thriving alt group called "alt.comics.lnh" which supports
this kind of material. This group is not available on all newsreaders
however and there is interest amongst people reading "rec.arts.comics.misc"
to create a new group to avoid having people crosspost to that group.
In addition, comic-related fiction is posted on other bulletin boards
such as Genie and there's no newsgroup here that caters to those who might
want to repost these stories here.
Finally, the existance of a rec group would attract the attention of people
who might not be aware of the determination with which comic-related stories
are written for net publication. As long as groups like the Legion of
Net.Heroes and JLGenie are restricted to their own spheres of influence,
people are not going to go out of their way to track down their stories and
they may be missing something that they might actually like and, yes, even
contribute to.
NEWSGROUP CREATION:
A request for discussion was submitted back in the spring but when the
time came for a call for vote the net was rather silent so this
request for discussion has been submitted so that there might be a
vote held one month from now.
--
Martin Phipps aka Deja Dude The CeLiNeFan
Although one shouldn't laugh at one's own humour,
it is nice to know that somebody is.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com Mon Sep 20 18:30:36 1993
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.comics.creative
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Date: 20 Sep 1993 12:00:42 -0400
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1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
Unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.creative
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Encouraging good collaborative fiction.
Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Oct 1993.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about
the proposed group, contact Martin Phipps <cxmp@musica.mcgill.ca>
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to write
into existing storylines although it is strongly recommended that
they do so in a way that doesn't inconvenience the writer who's
storyline you have written into.
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
copyright infringement.
STANDARD VOTING INFO
You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
voting@qualcomm.com
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.arts.comics.creative
or
I vote NO on rec.arts.comics.creative
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".
All votes should be acknowledged by mail.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account). 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com Mon Sep 27 18:07:24 1993
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.comics.creative
Supersedes: <rec.arts.comics.creative-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
Unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.creative
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Encouraging good collaborative fiction.
Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Oct 1993.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about
the proposed group, contact Martin Phipps <cxmp@musica.mcgill.ca>
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to write
into existing storylines although it is strongly recommended that
they do so in a way that doesn't inconvenience the writer who's
storyline you have written into.
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
copyright infringement.
STANDARD VOTING INFO
You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
voting@qualcomm.com
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.arts.comics.creative
or
I vote NO on rec.arts.comics.creative
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".
All votes should be acknowledged by mail.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account). 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.
rec.arts.comics.creative group vote Bounce Ack List - no need to revote
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From rdippold@qualcomm.com Tue Oct 12 15:07:57 1993
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.comics.creative fails 123:28
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Date: 12 Oct 1993 14:27:39 -0400
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RESULT
unmoderated rec.arts.comics.creative group vote results - 151 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
123 28 : Yes No : No : rec.arts.comics.creative
Hence the group fails from lack of interest. A new vote may not be held for
the same group for six months. The vote is extremely close (5 votes), but the
only bounced mail ack was for a yes vote.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only,
contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group,
contact Martin Phipps <cxmp@musica.mcgill.ca>
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to write
into existing storylines although it is strongly recommended that
they do so in a way that doesn't inconvenience the writer who's
storyline you have written into.
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
copyright infringement.
rec.arts.comics.creative group vote Final Vote Ack
Yes Votes
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003695s@dragon.acadiau.ca Stephane Savoie
111a-bd@sophia.smith.edu C.V.Stott
3LS6IZF@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU Bert L. Reinke
a905576@tiuk.ti.com David Pardoe
aa393@freenet.carleton.ca Ramesh Fernando
abbe@bronze.lcs.mit.edu John C. Abbe aka Rademir
acorboy@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu Andrew E Corboy
alexv@comtex.co.nz
allbery@gold.gvg.tek.com Richard Allbery
appel@cea.Berkeley.EDU Shannon D. Appel
aw1s+@andrew.cmu.edu Andrew David Weiland
A_CONDON@UNHH.UNH.EDU
BACOSTA1@UA1VM.UA.EDU Ben Acosta
barnejd%WKUVX1.bitnet@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
bouvin@daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin
brt581s@vma.smsu.edu
b_hart@macsch.com Bill Hart (MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation)
C48CC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
cadmacph@atlas.cs.upei.ca Don Macpherson
castle@ug.cs.dal.ca Julian C. (aka John Guthrie Constantine)
cffitzge@iastate.edu
cheah@cs.columbia.edu Po Shan Cheah
chuahl@parker.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Chua Hak Lien
crimson@ihz.compuserve.com Mark "Crimson" Friedman
curetonk@cs.rice.edu Kevin Cureton
CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA MARTIN
davidsen@tmr.com Bill Davidsen
DOUGA@YANG.EARLHAM.EDU
DrAllosaurus@cup.portal.com
drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu Rebecca Drayer
dubach1@husc.harvard.edu
dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Dave Van Domelen
EAO102@PSUVM.PSU.EDU Ernie Oporto
eja@acpub.duke.edu Eric Akawie
ejs16@columbia.edu Eric Jaron Stieglitz
EMATHIS3@UA1VM.UA.EDU Eric Mathis
emery@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov Scott Emery ACF
enubf@csv.warwick.ac.uk Paul Richard Hardy
Erik.Veit@EBay.Sun.COM zombie
f7y092@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca DAVID MOULD
franklig@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU Gregory C Franklin
gayle@typeaux.net.com Gayle Gamble
geurink@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Josh Geurink
glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca Gord Locke
gobeyn@Kodak.COM Rene Gobeyn
GPS108@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
gt0295b@prism.gatech.edu Edwin Michael Clarke
ha09+@andrew.cmu.edu Harith Jameel Alkhafiz
hachiman@u.washington.edu matt hardy
hasan@husc.harvard.edu
hermes@student.umass.edu --
hgb@catalina.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU Hubert Bartels
hkinyon@afc2s2.hq.af.mil 2LT H. Kinyon
idbremne@CS-ACAD-LAN.LakeheadU.CA
jdavid@halcyon.com David Ruggiero
jgpletin@vub.ac.be Pletinckx Jurgen
jherico@netcom.com B. Austin Davis
jlevine@apollo.hp.com
JMARIN@gmuvax.gmu.edu JOSEPH MARIN
jmccoske@sedona.intel.com Jeff McCoskey~
jml12@columbia.edu Jonathan M Lennox
jrm@elm.circa.ufl.edu Jeff Mason
jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil John Locke
j_fitzge@oz.plymouth.edu Jesse L. Fitzgerald
kagraves@MIT.EDU Kenneth A Graves
KATHLEEN@YANG.EARLHAM.EDU
kenaschm@cs.indiana.edu Ken Schmidt
kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu kieran
KING@waikato.ac.nz
kmwilcox@iastate.edu
knowles@netcom.com Sheryl Knowles
krupski@chopin.udel.edu James John Krupski
lawrence@express.ctron.com Gary S. St. Lawrence
lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu Pet Shop Glenns
llgerholz@mmm.com Laurie Gerholz
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu Lonadar the Wanderer
lucke@plains.NoDak.edu Kyle A. Lucke
marier@zso.dec.com shawn marier
maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk Jason Saunders
mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu Killans - First And Last And Always
mickey@bach.udel.edu Mickey
MikE@unh.edu Of Mikes and Men
minnotte@raven.math.usu.edu Mike Minnotte
mitchell@rex.cs.tulane.edu da JAM
mrwarden@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Melissa Rhoads Warden
mswalsh@ocf.Berkeley.EDU Mark Walsh
NEWCOMBE@AA.csc.Peachnet.EDU Dan Newcombe
number6@cpac.washington.edu
olemo@dhhalden.no OLE-MAGNUS OLSEN
paul@ERC.MsState.Edu Paul Adams
pcxsws@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk S.Ward-Smith
perler@tix.timeplex.com Michael Perler
preyer@phoenix.cs.uga.edu Johnny Preyer
p_atclif@pat.uwe-bristol.ac.uk P Atcliffe
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn
R.J.Johnston@newcastle.ac.uk
rayb@renoir.idec.sdl.usu.edu Ray G. Bingham
RHK106@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
rogerk@queernet.org Roger B.A. Klorese
roshne@faerun.mi.org Rod Shelton
ross@refine.enet.dec.com Theron E. Ross, DTN 235-8053, DSG1-2/F2 20-Sep-19
royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA Roy Daniel
ryan.bayne@canrem.com Ryan Bayne
sarge@express.ctron.com
Sean.Russell@lambada.oit.unc.edu Sean Russell
sfenster@attmail.att.com
sirowe@minerva.cis.yale.edu Si Rowe
skarkkai@cc.helsinki.fi H Samuli Karkkainen
slim@cybernet.cse.fau.edu Nick Glenos
SMB147@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
stamber@ecn.purdue.edu Kevin L. Stamber
steinar.bergstol@hedmarkdh.no steinar bergstol
swildner@channelz.gun.de Sascha Wildner
t5b192@rick.cs.ubc.ca
theodore@knosos.cc.uch.gr Theodore J.I.N. Soldatos
tjarks@iesde.att.com
tori@columbia.edu Lurking.Girl
TRIPLET1@muvms6.wvnet.edu
tyg@valhalla.HQ.Ileaf.COM Thomas Galloway
VERBEEK@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU Todd VerBeek [Comp & Info Tech] GWM
vtam@physics.ubc.ca Veronica Tam
wolfcdia@w250zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE Sabine Wolf
wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com Christopher M. Conway
No Votes
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albinali@cs.columbia.edu Sabah al-Binali
cgilmore@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Christopher Gilmore
clc@gnu.ai.mit.edu
cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu Ernest A. Cline
cmarble@anubis.ac.hmc.edu Chris Marble
drseuss@gorn.echo.com David Bedno
dv3sighe@gandalf.his.se Sigurdur-Runar Helgason
eab@msc.edu Edward Bertsch
ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu Eric J. Olson
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu Hardcore Alaskan
gordon@ll.mit.edu Gordon Matheson
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu Brennan Tennesen Price
hades@Dartmouth.Edu Brian V. Hughes
jcowling@sol.UVic.CA Scowling Jim Cowling
jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu James Kiley
joe@decoy.uoregon.edu Joe St Sauver
johnlin@scf.usc.edu The Spider
jrd@frame.com James Drew
kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA Kosmatos Odisseas
mkelly@lazy.helios.nd.edu michael kelly
MORROW@FNALV.FNAL.GOV Greg Morrow
revu@midway.uchicago.edu Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
SAAST8@vms.cis.pitt.edu
shane@spr.com Shane Hartman
smarry@io.org Smarasderagd Draco
stu@valinor.mythical.com Stu Labovitz
vnend@Princeton.EDU David James
From cxmp@musica.mcgill.ca Tue Apr 19 17:46:34 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Martin Phipps <cxmp@musica.mcgill.ca>
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Subject: RFD: rec.arts.comics.creative
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION:
of the creation of a newsgroup called "rec.arts.comics.creative".
PURPOSE:
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to write
into existing storylines although it is strongly recommended that
they do so in a way that doesn't inconvenience the writer who's
storyline you have written into.
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
copyright infringement.
RATIONALE:
There exists a thriving alt group called "alt.comics.lnh" which supports
this kind of material. This group is not available on all newsreaders
however and there is interest amongst people reading "rec.arts.comics.misc"
to create a new group to avoid having people crosspost to that group.
In addition, comic-related fiction is posted on other bulletin boards
such as Genie and there's no newsgroup here that caters to those who might
want to repost these stories here.
The existance of a mailing list known as Superguy has also come to the
attention of people interested in the creation of this group. This
represents yet another group of people who are interested in
participating in this newsgroup.
Finally, the existance of a rec group would attract the attention of people
who might not be aware of the determination with which comic-related stories
are written for net publication. As long as groups like the Legion of
Net.Heroes and JLGenie are restricted to their own spheres of influence,
people are not going to go out of their way to track down their stories and
they may be missing something that they might actually like and, yes, even
contribute to.
NEWSGROUP CREATION:
A call for votes should be posted three weeks from now (May 3rd).
Ron Dippold has offered to collect the votes.
Martin Phipps (The Ce'line Fan)
Deja Dude on alt.comics.lnh
Generic Man (sort of) on Superguy
From jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Wed May 11 14:57:43 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.comics.creative
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Date: 9 May 1994 19:10:25 -0400
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.creative
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Encouraging good superhero-style writing.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact the votetaker, Jay Maynard, at
jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu. For questions about the
proposed group, contact the proponent, Martin Phipps,
CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA.
A copy of this Call for Votes will be sent to the mailing list at
SUPERGUY@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu.
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to follow
the existing continuity of the "universe" in which their stories take
place. (Writers can have their stories take place in a "universe" that
is entirely their own but this would mean that any "cross-overs" with
other storylines would have to be considered "out of continuity".)
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
trademark infringement.
RATIONALE:
There exists a thriving alt group called "alt.comics.lnh" which supports
this kind of material. This group is not available on all newsreaders
however and there is interest amongst people reading "rec.arts.comics.misc"
to create a new group to avoid having people crosspost to that group.
In addition, comic-related fiction is posted on other bulletin boards
such as Genie and there's no newsgroup here that caters to those who might
want to repost these stories here.
The existance of a mailing list known as Superguy has also come to the
attention of people interested in the creation of this group. This
represents yet another group of people who might be interested in
participating in this newsgroup.
Finally, the existance of a rec group would attract the attention of people
who might not be aware of the determination with which comic-related stories
are written for net publication. As long as groups like the Legion of
Net.Heroes and JLGenie are restricted to their own spheres of influence,
people are not going to go out of their way to track down their stories and
they may be missing something that they might actually like and, yes, even
contribute to.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: votes@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.arts.comics.creative
I vote NO on rec.arts.comics.creative
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
"The government which fears arms in the hands of its people...should."
-- Karl Kleinpaste
From jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Mon May 23 19:02:20 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.comics.creative
Supersedes: <rec.arts.comics.creative-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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Date: 23 May 1994 17:32:20 -0400
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.creative
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Encouraging good superhero-style writing.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact the votetaker, Jay Maynard, at
jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu. For questions about the
proposed group, contact the proponent, Martin Phipps,
CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA.
A copy of this Call for Votes will be sent to the mailing list at
SUPERGUY@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu.
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to follow
the existing continuity of the "universe" in which their stories take
place. (Writers can have their stories take place in a "universe" that
is entirely their own but this would mean that any "cross-overs" with
other storylines would have to be considered "out of continuity".)
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
trademark infringement.
RATIONALE:
There exists a thriving alt group called "alt.comics.lnh" which supports
this kind of material. This group is not available on all newsreaders
however and there is interest amongst people reading "rec.arts.comics.misc"
to create a new group to avoid having people crosspost to that group.
In addition, comic-related fiction is posted on other bulletin boards
such as Genie and there's no newsgroup here that caters to those who might
want to repost these stories here.
The existance of a mailing list known as Superguy has also come to the
attention of people interested in the creation of this group. This
represents yet another group of people who might be interested in
participating in this newsgroup.
Finally, the existance of a rec group would attract the attention of people
who might not be aware of the determination with which comic-related stories
are written for net publication. As long as groups like the Legion of
Net.Heroes and JLGenie are restricted to their own spheres of influence,
people are not going to go out of their way to track down their stories and
they may be missing something that they might actually like and, yes, even
contribute to.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: votes@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.arts.comics.creative
I vote NO on rec.arts.comics.creative
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
rec.arts.comics.creative Bounce List - No need to revote
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lupa@rchland
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
To Sarah Brady, Howard Metzenbaum, Dianne Feinstein, and Charles Schumer:
Thanks. Without you, I would be neither a gun owner nor an NRA life member.
From jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Tue May 31 16:09:14 1994
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From: jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh,rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.comics.creative passes 202:44
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RESULT
unmoderated group rec.arts.comics.creative passes 202:44
There were 202 YES votes and 44 NO votes, for a total of 246 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 5 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Encouraging good superhero-style writing.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact the votetaker, Jay Maynard, at
jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu. For questions about the
proposed group, contact the proponent, Martin Phipps,
CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA.
A copy of this Call for Votes will be sent to the mailing list at
SUPERGUY@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu.
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to be available for people who want to post comic-related
fiction and discussions about them. Writers are encouraged to follow
the existing continuity of the "universe" in which their stories take
place. (Writers can have their stories take place in a "universe" that
is entirely their own but this would mean that any "cross-overs" with
other storylines would have to be considered "out of continuity".)
This group is *not* intended as a place for posting stories using
current characters from actual comic books as this would constitute
trademark infringement.
RATIONALE:
There exists a thriving alt group called "alt.comics.lnh" which supports
this kind of material. This group is not available on all newsreaders
however and there is interest amongst people reading "rec.arts.comics.misc"
to create a new group to avoid having people crosspost to that group.
In addition, comic-related fiction is posted on other bulletin boards
such as Genie and there's no newsgroup here that caters to those who might
want to repost these stories here.
The existance of a mailing list known as Superguy has also come to the
attention of people interested in the creation of this group. This
represents yet another group of people who might be interested in
participating in this newsgroup.
Finally, the existance of a rec group would attract the attention of people
who might not be aware of the determination with which comic-related stories
are written for net publication. As long as groups like the Legion of
Net.Heroes and JLGenie are restricted to their own spheres of influence,
people are not going to go out of their way to track down their stories and
they may be missing something that they might actually like and, yes, even
contribute to.
rec.arts.comics.creative Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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0006316815@mcimail.com Joseph Block
Abhijit_Khale@transarc.com
adams@kona.wes.army.mil F. P. Adams, Jr.
afabbro@umich.edu This Space For Rent
aflisser@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Adam Joshua Flisser
agmarkow@ocf.Berkeley.EDU J._Michael_Stipe
aibel@squamish.marcam.com Jon Aibel
ajc1@kepler.unh.edu Wakko Warner
ALDEB@acc.rwu.edu
ALLBERY@gvg47.gvg.tek.com Richard: 916-478-3214 / 8L
amj@ukc.ac.uk Azizi
andy@argus.demon.co.uk Andy May
andy@drebin.demon.co.uk Andrew Ellam
ANTARCTIC@delphi.com ANTARCTIC@DELPHI.COM
arthur-rvelks@nova.novanet.org
ASRDW1@acad2.alaska.edu Roycester (pronounced 'Royster')
ASRST@acad2.alaska.edu Darkside Cowboy
aw1s+@andrew.cmu.edu Andrew David Weiland
barry@clark.edu Barry Lieberman
bbecker@Glue.umd.edu Allen Ka-Lun Au
BECK%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU Rebecca Daugherty
billian@leland.Stanford.EDU Mark W Billian
Blake.W.Thomas@williams.edu B. Warren Thomas
BlkEgo@aol.com
boelter@cwis.unomaha.edu John Boelter
brodskyf@std.teradyne.com Franklin Brodsky
bura@laforia.ibp.fr BURA Stephane 40 24 27 59
bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu Brian J. Perler
c594314@monad.missouri.edu Byron Molix
catseye@minerva.cis.yale.edu. Mark Kupferman
cgirard@metz.une.edu.au Blade of Malchrntyne
chiun@pegasus.rutgers.edu Remo Williams
chm173s@nic.smsu.edu It's the swing like a pendulum
Chris.Sypal@pitstop.omahug.org Chris Sypal
chris@stallion.oz.au Christopher J Biggs
curetonk@cs.rice.edu Kevin Cureton
curtw@euler.jsc.nasa.gov Curt Wiederhoeft
CWENTLING@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU CHARLIE WENTLING
CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA MARTIN
CYBY@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA Bart Beaty. GPC. McGill
czisnyb@wam.umd.edu Benjamin Bach Czisny
d-e-x@mail.utexas.edu Dommy E. Hamid
dancer@aurora.cis.upenn.edu Johanna Draper
dbasinge@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu D. Michael Basinger
dconner@clark.net David Conner
dh39@unix.brighton.ac.uk Dan Howell
dkerr@plains.NoDak.edu Darin Kerr
dnewell@MIT.EDU
don@genmagic.genmagic.com Don Woods
Doug.Shaw@math.lsa.umich.edu Doug Shaw
douga@earlham.edu
dpawtows@access.digex.net Daniel Pawtowski
DrAllosaurus@cup.portal.com
drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu Rebecca Drayer
droberts@neumann.une.edu.au DD
dubach1@husc.harvard.edu
dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Dave Van Domelen
efbrown@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Eric Brown
eja@acpub.duke.edu Eric Akawie
elc9j@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Ellen L. Contini-Morava
enubf@csv.warwick.ac.uk Paul Richard Hardy
fishbone@astro.ocis.temple.edu Greg Fishbone
franke@sed.cs.fsu.edu Jerry Franke
gamble@alc.com
geno@nevada.edu EuGene epetai-Tramaglino
gerberm@iia.org Matthew Gerber
GHOD@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU The Reverend Floating Point Exception (bl00p!)
goldfarb@ocf.Berkeley.EDU David Goldfarb
groves@umr.edu Sam Groves
gt2805b@prism.gatech.edu Eric E. Chastain (T-Rex)
gt4746b@prism.gatech.edu Jon C. Robertson
gt4774e@prism.gatech.edu Alan Paul Albert
ha09+@andrew.cmu.edu Harith Jameel Alkhafiz
hahn@stat.ncsu.edu William Hahn
harlock@connected.com Eric Harding
hasan@husc.harvard.edu
hgb@catalina.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU Hubert Bartels
hourman@express.ctron.com
hutch@ibeam.intel.com Steve Hutchison
hywang@apple.com Hao-yang Wang
i9130989@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu Ronald E Kinion
IDBREMNE@CS-ACAD-LAN.LakeheadU.CA Ian David Bremner
izo30@juts.ccc.amdahl.com Ian O'Brien
jaelle@mu.sans.vuw.ac.nz Jessica Ihimaera-Smiler
James.Langdell@Eng.Sun.COM James Langdell
jav41196@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu The Vodkinator
jbenton@home.interaccess.com John Benton
jch9796@inxs.uta.edu HENDERSON
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU James Alexander Chokey
jebg9667@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu Johann E. Beda
Jesse.Taylor@lambada.oit.unc.edu Jesse Taylor
JGOV1447@URIACC.URI.EDU The Corinthian
jlesgold@artsci.wustl.edu Jacob Lesgold
jmccoske@sedona.intel.com Jeff McCoskey~
jmj696s@nic.smsu.edu J. Michael Spectre
jonathan@columbia.edu Jonathan M. Lennox
jpbanker@cat.syr.edu He did the Watusi
jrm@elm.circa.ufl.edu Jeff Mason
justinf@cco.caltech.edu Justin Fang
K.Lucas@dcs.warwick.ac.uk SillyWiz
kbg00@cas.org [Ken Gilbert (x3432)]
keith@vortex.demon.co.uk keith martin
kenaschm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu Ken Schmidt
kens@css.itd.umich.edu Ken Small
KEW5843@EXODUS.VALPO.EDU Kate the Short
kherron@ms.uky.edu
kinsman@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca Aphoriel/Kinsman
kmwilcox@iastate.edu
knowles@netcom.com Sheryl Knowles
kogutt@rintintin.Colorado.EDU SCAVENGERemy
krupski@strauss.udel.edu James John Krupski
L15D@ZFN.UNI-BREMEN.DE Martin Schroeder
larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca John P. LaRocque
lbrown@cisco.com Lawrence Brown
lcarr@sequent.com Linda Carr
lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu Return to Glennocence
lhb@netcom.com Laura Burchard
llgerholz@mmm.com Laurie Gerholz
lmathews@lonestar.utsa.edu Leanthony R. Mathews
lucke@aero.und.nodak.edu Kyle A. Lucke
lupa@rchland
lvirden@cas.org Larry W. Virden
m1jbn00@FRB.GOV
mack@soda.berkeley.edu dream
Marie.E.Antoon@students.Miami.EDU Marie E. Antoon
markski@wam.umd.edu Mark Andrew Wisniewski
mark_m@super7.uccs.edu Mark A Mcconnell
MBGAUMER@MUSIC.LOYNO.EDU MBGAUMER
megazone@WPI.EDU B Bikowicz
merkle@emunix.emich.edu Richard Merkle
mfrose@umcc.umich.edu Martin Rose
mgelman@husc.harvard.edu Michael A. Gelman
mglee1@students.wisc.edu Michael G. P. Lee
Mike.Mendoza@um.cc.umich.edu
mikeg@bga.com Michael Gunderson
MR.9767@acc.rwu.edu
mre@christa.unh.edu Mike Escutia
msrfx@csv.warwick.ac.uk Charlie Ball
mughal@alumni.caltech.edu A. M. Mughal
n9345238@henson.cc.wwu.edu Elizabeth Smith
nathan@ftp.health.org Nathan Bardsley
nbc2569@dbmsmail.dsac.dla.mil Christopher L Schneider
nedbush@gate.net Charles [Ned] Bush
nigel.benfell@stonebow.otago.ac.nz Lunatic
nloz@gene.com Noel Lozares
nweaver@boojum.CS.Berkeley.EDU Nicholas C. Weaver
OGUOCHA@sask.usask.ca
palomino@interaccess.com Palomino
pancreas@u.washington.edu Paul Moorehead
pcxsws@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk S.Ward-Smith
perler@tix.timeplex.com Michael Perler
Peter_Wright@mindlink.bc.ca Peter Wright
pmilan@FSCVAX.FSC.MASS.EDU
pmoyer@wam.umd.edu Philip Jeremy Moyer
pquan@wimsey.com Patrick Quan
prob@festival.edinburgh.ac.uk
pwright@mdd.comm.mot.com Patricia Wright
p_atclif@csd.uwe-bristol.ac.uk P Atcliffe
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn
ralphc@bwc.org Ralph Cerchione
rdg4@cornell.edu Wrath
richard@anduril.demon.co.uk Richard Poffley
rkeller@andy.bgsu.edu robin keller
rogersr@kenyon.edu INTO THE GREAT WIDE OPEN
ronnya@stud.cs.uit.no Ronny Haavard Arild
rra@CS.Stanford.EDU Russ Allbery
RUBICON@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU Ma'am, my geode must be acknowledged!
rufinus@cae.wisc.edu
rviaud@mason1.gmu.edu Rodrigo E Viaud
rwa@gandalf.baylor.edu
rypkema@husc.harvard.edu
sabre@sage.cc.purdue.edu Spectre
saint@express.ctron.com
sallylb@netcom.com Sally Smith
sigma7@ksu.ksu.edu Sigma Seven
siilsu@utu.fi Simo Sunrider Suntila
SL859@cc.usu.edu
st90y6jn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu John Alessandro
Steinar.Bergstol@stud.hedmarkdh.no Steinar Bergstol
stud0c48@bnr.ca michael (m.) silver
swildner@channelz.gun.de Sascha Wildner
thart@WPI.EDU Tom Hart
tjarks@iesde.att.com
Tklassen@darkwing.uoregon.edu Tim Klassen
tori@columbia.edu Lurking.Girl
tyg@valhalla.HQ.ileaf.com Tom Galloway
umgree29@CC.UManitoba.CA
umgumpri@CC.UManitoba.CA
UMWRICKMAN@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU
u_gearman@mv3800.engr.scarolina.edu
valus@whqvax.picker.com
verbeek@admin.cit.hope.edu
vervoort@fwi.uva.nl Marco R. Vervoort
vktam@unixg.ubc.ca Veronica Kwun-Yue Tam
WGEURIN@delphi.com WGEURIN@DELPHI.COM
whitek@ucs.orst.edu Kevin White
William.S.Kartalopoulos@Dartmouth.EDU William S. Kartalopoulos
WLLGAR06@Uctvax.UCT.AC.ZA
wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com Christopher M. Conway
wrd@beer.wa.com Dark M00se Rising
yamane@galaxie.int-evry.fr Yamane Maki
zagyg@netcom.com Scott Johnson
Voted No
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al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA
anders@uss-enterprise.bu.edu Anders M Jorgensen
antersbe@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Stefan Antersberger
ault@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu Ed Bailey
BERTRAM@D0SSC1.FNAL.GOV Iain A. Bertram
bsb2@columbia.edu Bernard S Black
burt+@CMU.EDU Burt N Holzman
cjackson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Chris "ASCII Console Monster Man" Jackson
clstampe@mailbox.syr.edu Chris Stamper
cmarble@osiris.ac.hmc.edu Chris Marble
crouchkp@flidh102.delcoelect.com
dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu David R. Henry
EWilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca Ed Wilts
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan
georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de Georg Schwarz
glhuckabay@ucdavis.edu
hades@Dartmouth.Edu Brian V. Hughes
hbe@red-eft.la.ca.us Harris Boldt Edelman
HD0022%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Chip Dunham
hson@ludd.luth.se Roger Hakansson
j414@midway.uchicago.edu mary-frances jagod
jay@gordian.com Jay Laefer
jcowling@sol.uvic.ca Scowling Jim Cowling
jcruz@netcom.com J.M.Cruz
jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org Joseph Fortt
johnlin@scf.usc.edu The Spider
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
jspencer@world.std.com Jeffrey C Spencer
k93mc01@hobbes.kzoo.edu bopo
Kari.Hurtta@fmi.fi Kari E. Hurtta
kregg@cs.wisc.edu Kregg Brooks
mad5c@server.cs.Virginia.EDU
mfepgdp@fs1.art.manchester.ac.uk David J. Potts
mkelly@lazy.helios.nd.edu michael kelly
mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
MORROW@FNALV.FNAL.GOV Greg Morrow
mrstampe@mailbox.syr.edu Marjorie R. Stamper
neilb@khoros.unm.edu
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
schulman@michael.nmr.upmc.edu Christina Schulman
smailer@titan.ucs.umass.edu IRA SMAILER
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
tochen@mtu.edu Tony Chen
Abstained
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cffitzge@iastate.edu
Votes in error
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bdl5@po.CWRU.Edu Brian D. Larson
! No vote statement in message
frankm@ion.apana.org.au Frank Merrick
! Conflicting votes
somendoz@NMSU.Edu
! No vote statement in message
winter@isumataq.eskimo.com Tammie Philpott
! No vote statement in message
zachd@henson.cc.wwu.edu Zach DH Robinson
! No vote statement in message
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity.
To Sarah Brady, Howard Metzenbaum, Dianne Feinstein, and Charles Schumer:
Thanks. Without you, I would be neither a gun owner nor an NRA life member.
From rra@cs.stanford.edu Mon Sep 23 17:24:44 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu>
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.arts.comics.creative (moderates existing group)
Newsgroup line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Comics-related original creative writing. (Moderated)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the moderation of
the existing world-wide Usenet newsgroup rec.arts.comics.creative.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.
RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.creative
The original conception of rec.arts.comics.creative was as a fairly
low-traffic, high-signal home for the large variety of comics-related
stories and shared universes on the Net. Moderation was seriously
considered in the original group proposal but rejected largely because
no one was in a position to moderate the group.
Recently, rec.arts.comics.creative has suffered from a rash of
off-topic articles, to the point where upwards of 80% of the group has
been noise. The on-topic traffic for the group is normally a small
number of fairly long posts, and thus is easily drowned out by lots of
off-topic posts.
Moderation will allow the group to return to its original purpose, as
well as allow enforcement of a keyword system. racc's counterpart in
the anime hierarchy, rec.arts.anime.creative, has been moderated since
the original creation of the group.
CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.creative
This newsgroup welcomes any form of comics-related original fiction
and discussion of the same, including but not limited to stories in
the many established shared universes. Discussion of on-line fiction
as a whole is also welcome provided that it is related to the stories
on the newsgroup. If they choose to write in an existing shared
universe, writers are strongly encouranged to follow the existing
continuity and rules of that universe. "Comics-related" will be
interpreted very broadly, as has been traditional on the newsgroup.
Each posting to rec.arts.comics.creative should include a keyword on
the subject line either designating which shared universe the posting
refers to or marking the general subject of the post (ADMIN, META,
MISC, etc.). If a submitted post does not have a keyword, the
moderator will add an appropriate keyword, but posters are encouraged
to add keywords themselves to save moderation work.
Large binaries, such as artwork, will not be allowed on the newsgroup.
Instead, binaries can be made available in the newsgroup archive
(subject to the discretion of the archivist) and a pointer posted to
the newsgroup. Pointers to Web pages are also welcome, provided the
content of the page is related to the purpose of the group.
Stories using copyrighted or trademarked characters are explicitly not
within the charter of this group and may be rejected unless the author
owns the copyrights and trademarks or has written permission from the
owner. Networking posts (artists seeking writers or writers seeking
artists) are inappropriate in this group and should be sent to
appropriate mailing lists or other groups in the rec.arts.comics.*
hierarchy (rec.arts.comics.misc if there is no other more appropriate
group).
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.creative
Moderator: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
Russ (Eagle) is the current archivist of rec.arts.comics.creative,
author of Perspectives, Birds Fly, Drifter, and other stories, and
co-founder of the Crossroads shared writing universe.
Moderator: Chris Gumprich <umgumpri@cc.umanitoba.ca>
Chris is a long-time Net.Trenchcoat.Brigade writer and FAQ keeper, an
occasional LNH writer, the founder of the ESP writing universe, and
the author of a broad range of stories from R.E.J.E.C.T.S. '95 to Voyd
and Dark Secrets.
Moderator: Mike Friedman <mdfst12+@pitt.edu>
Mike is a co-founder of the Crossroads shared writing universe and the
author of the LNH series Spite Grrrl and the Crossroads series Arvie
the Wonderdog, among many other things. He is also the coordinator of
one of RACC's semi-regular review columns.
Moderator: Patricia Wright <pawright@ccgate.hac.com>
Patricia is a long-time reader of first alt.comics.lnh and now
rec.arts.comics.creative, a long-time LNH writer, and the author of
the Vulcana series of stories.
END MODERATOR INFO.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.arts.comics.creative,
rec.arts.comics.info, rec.arts.anime.creative
and the following mailing lists:
superchat@awenet.com (Superguy readers discussion list)
Subscribe via: majordomo@awenet.com, subscribe superchat
--
Eagle <eagle@eyrie.org> Windrider of Crossroads
<URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> rec.arts.comics.creative archivist
From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Mon Nov 11 19:08:56 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime.creative,rec.arts.comics.creative,rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: CFV: moderate rec.arts.comics.creative
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group rec.arts.comics.creative (moderates existing group)
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Comics-related original creative writing. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Dec 1996.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.creative
The original conception of rec.arts.comics.creative was as a fairly
low-traffic, high-signal home for the large variety of comics-related
stories and shared universes on the Net. Moderation was seriously
considered in the original group proposal but rejected largely because
no one was in a position to moderate the group.
Recently, rec.arts.comics.creative has suffered from a rash of
off-topic articles, to the point where upwards of 80% of the group has
been noise. The on-topic traffic for the group is normally a small
number of fairly long posts, and thus is easily drowned out by lots of
off-topic posts.
Moderation will allow the group to return to its original purpose, as
well as allow enforcement of a keyword system. racc's counterpart in
the anime hierarchy, rec.arts.anime.creative, has been moderated since
the original creation of the group.
CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.creative
This newsgroup welcomes any form of comics-related original fiction
and discussion of the same, including but not limited to stories in
the many established shared universes. Discussion of on-line fiction
as a whole is also welcome provided that it is related to the stories
on the newsgroup. If they choose to write in an existing shared
universe, writers are strongly encouranged to follow the existing
continuity and rules of that universe. "Comics-related" will be
interpreted very broadly, as has been traditional on the newsgroup.
Each posting to rec.arts.comics.creative should include a keyword on
the subject line either designating which shared universe the posting
refers to or marking the general subject of the post (ADMIN, META,
MISC, etc.). If a submitted post does not have a keyword, the
moderator will add an appropriate keyword, but posters are encouraged
to add keywords themselves to save moderation work.
Large binaries, such as artwork, will not be allowed on the newsgroup.
Instead, binaries can be made available in the newsgroup archive
(subject to the discretion of the archivist) and a pointer posted to
the newsgroup. Pointers to Web pages are also welcome, provided the
content of the page is related to the purpose of the group.
Stories using copyrighted or trademarked characters are explicitly not
within the charter of this group and may be rejected unless the author
owns the copyrights and trademarks or has written permission from the
owner. Networking posts (artists seeking writers or writers seeking
artists) are inappropriate in this group and should be sent to
appropriate mailing lists or other groups in the rec.arts.comics.*
hierarchy (rec.arts.comics.misc if there is no other more appropriate
group).
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.creative
Moderator: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
Moderator: Chris Gumprich <umgumpri@cc.umanitoba.ca>
Moderator: Mike Friedman <mdfst12+@pitt.edu>
Moderator: Patricia Wright <pawright@ccgate.hac.com>
Administrative contact address: racc-request@eyrie.org
Article submission address: racc@eyrie.org
END MODERATOR INFO.
HOW TO VOTE:
Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer.
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
voting@hut.fi
Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:
I vote YES on moderating rec.arts.comics.creative
I vote NO on moderating rec.arts.comics.creative
Voter name:
If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL and
Delphi do not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line
and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line
is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words
"Voter name"!
You may also vote ABSTAIN (which does exactly that) or CANCEL (which
removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count
in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not.
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One account per person and one vote
per person. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
--
Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Voting address: <voting@hut.fi>
From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Fri Nov 22 10:24:35 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime.creative,rec.arts.comics.creative,rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: 2nd CFV: moderate rec.arts.comics.creative
Supersedes: <847757326.26728@uunet.uu.net>
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Date: 22 Nov 1996 15:24:33 -0000
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9379 news.groups:240074 rec.arts.anime.creative:822 rec.arts.comics.creative:7954 rec.arts.comics.info:5814
LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group rec.arts.comics.creative (moderates existing group)
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Comics-related original creative writing. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Dec 1996.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.creative
The original conception of rec.arts.comics.creative was as a fairly
low-traffic, high-signal home for the large variety of comics-related
stories and shared universes on the Net. Moderation was seriously
considered in the original group proposal but rejected largely because
no one was in a position to moderate the group.
Recently, rec.arts.comics.creative has suffered from a rash of
off-topic articles, to the point where upwards of 80% of the group has
been noise. The on-topic traffic for the group is normally a small
number of fairly long posts, and thus is easily drowned out by lots of
off-topic posts.
Moderation will allow the group to return to its original purpose, as
well as allow enforcement of a keyword system. racc's counterpart in
the anime hierarchy, rec.arts.anime.creative, has been moderated since
the original creation of the group.
CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.creative
This newsgroup welcomes any form of comics-related original fiction
and discussion of the same, including but not limited to stories in
the many established shared universes. Discussion of on-line fiction
as a whole is also welcome provided that it is related to the stories
on the newsgroup. If they choose to write in an existing shared
universe, writers are strongly encouranged to follow the existing
continuity and rules of that universe. "Comics-related" will be
interpreted very broadly, as has been traditional on the newsgroup.
Each posting to rec.arts.comics.creative should include a keyword on
the subject line either designating which shared universe the posting
refers to or marking the general subject of the post (ADMIN, META,
MISC, etc.). If a submitted post does not have a keyword, the
moderator will add an appropriate keyword, but posters are encouraged
to add keywords themselves to save moderation work.
Large binaries, such as artwork, will not be allowed on the newsgroup.
Instead, binaries can be made available in the newsgroup archive
(subject to the discretion of the archivist) and a pointer posted to
the newsgroup. Pointers to Web pages are also welcome, provided the
content of the page is related to the purpose of the group.
Stories using copyrighted or trademarked characters are explicitly not
within the charter of this group and may be rejected unless the author
owns the copyrights and trademarks or has written permission from the
owner. Networking posts (artists seeking writers or writers seeking
artists) are inappropriate in this group and should be sent to
appropriate mailing lists or other groups in the rec.arts.comics.*
hierarchy (rec.arts.comics.misc if there is no other more appropriate
group).
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.creative
Moderator: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
Moderator: Chris Gumprich <umgumpri@cc.umanitoba.ca>
Moderator: Mike Friedman <mdfst12+@pitt.edu>
Moderator: Patricia Wright <pawright@ccgate.hac.com>
Administrative contact address: racc-request@eyrie.org
Article submission address: racc@eyrie.org
END MODERATOR INFO.
HOW TO VOTE:
Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer.
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
voting@hut.fi
Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:
I vote YES on moderating rec.arts.comics.creative
I vote NO on moderating rec.arts.comics.creative
Voter name:
If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL and
Delphi do not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line
and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line
is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words
"Voter name"!
You may also vote ABSTAIN (which does exactly that) or CANCEL (which
removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count
in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not.
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One account per person and one vote
per person. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
--
Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Voting address: <voting@hut.fi>
From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Wed Dec 4 12:49:21 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.anime.creative,rec.arts.comics.creative,rec.arts.comics.info
Subject: RESULT: moderate rec.arts.comics.creative passes 136:20
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Date: 4 Dec 1996 12:49:18 -0500
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RESULT
moderated group rec.arts.comics.creative (moderates existing group) passes 136:20
There were 136 YES votes and 20 NO votes, for a total of 156 valid votes.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
rec.arts.comics.creative Comics-related original creative writing. (Moderated)
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 3 Dec 1996.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Russ Allbery <rra@cs.stanford.edu>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.creative
The original conception of rec.arts.comics.creative was as a fairly
low-traffic, high-signal home for the large variety of comics-related
stories and shared universes on the Net. Moderation was seriously
considered in the original group proposal but rejected largely because
no one was in a position to moderate the group.
Recently, rec.arts.comics.creative has suffered from a rash of
off-topic articles, to the point where upwards of 80% of the group has
been noise. The on-topic traffic for the group is normally a small
number of fairly long posts, and thus is easily drowned out by lots of
off-topic posts.
Moderation will allow the group to return to its original purpose, as
well as allow enforcement of a keyword system. racc's counterpart in
the anime hierarchy, rec.arts.anime.creative, has been moderated since
the original creation of the group.
CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.creative
This newsgroup welcomes any form of comics-related original fiction
and discussion of the same, including but not limited to stories in
the many established shared universes. Discussion of on-line fiction
as a whole is also welcome provided that it is related to the stories
on the newsgroup. If they choose to write in an existing shared
universe, writers are strongly encouranged to follow the existing
continuity and rules of that universe. "Comics-related" will be
interpreted very broadly, as has been traditional on the newsgroup.
Each posting to rec.arts.comics.creative should include a keyword on
the subject line either designating which shared universe the posting
refers to or marking the general subject of the post (ADMIN, META,
MISC, etc.). If a submitted post does not have a keyword, the
moderator will add an appropriate keyword, but posters are encouraged
to add keywords themselves to save moderation work.
Large binaries, such as artwork, will not be allowed on the newsgroup.
Instead, binaries can be made available in the newsgroup archive
(subject to the discretion of the archivist) and a pointer posted to
the newsgroup. Pointers to Web pages are also welcome, provided the
content of the page is related to the purpose of the group.
Stories using copyrighted or trademarked characters are explicitly not
within the charter of this group and may be rejected unless the author
owns the copyrights and trademarks or has written permission from the
owner. Networking posts (artists seeking writers or writers seeking
artists) are inappropriate in this group and should be sent to
appropriate mailing lists or other groups in the rec.arts.comics.*
hierarchy (rec.arts.comics.misc if there is no other more appropriate
group).
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.creative
Moderator: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>
Moderator: Chris Gumprich <umgumpri@cc.umanitoba.ca>
Moderator: Mike Friedman <mdfst12+@pitt.edu>
Moderator: Patricia Wright <pawright@ccgate.hac.com>
Administrative contact address: racc-request@eyrie.org
Article submission address: racc@eyrie.org
END MODERATOR INFO.
rec.arts.comics.creative moderation Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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aaron@phoenix.isn.net Aaron MacRae
ablack@melbpc.org.au Andrew Black
ad140@freenet.unbc.edu Ben Rawluk
adia@egnatia.ee.auth.gr Alejandros Diamandidis
afn40452@afn.org Lawrence W. Homer
ah56846@uta.fi Aapo Haapanen
akhosla@umich.edu Abhay Khosla
aloomis@whale.st.usm.edu Austin George Loomis
andyl@harlequin.com Andy Latto
ankh@iconz.co.nz J. S. Connell" <ankh@iconz.co.nz>
arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva
asveenst@mtu.edu Aaron S. Veenstra
beatle+@CMU.EDU Max Chittister
benbrown@primenet.com Benjamin L. Brown
biladams@cslab.uky.edu Bill Adams
billones@primenet.com Jeremy Billones
bluddo@netcom.com Alex Feely
bmeyer1@uic.edu Brucha S. Meyers
bouvin@daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin
bura@laforia.ibp.fr Stephane Bura
byxbe@KnowledgeTech.com Thom Byxbe
c594314@showme.missouri.edu Byron Molix
c684459@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu Christopher E. Meadows
candyvg@portage1.portup.com Candy Veenstra Goulette
cangelin@uoguelph.ca Chris Angelini
CaptVideo3@aol.com Pam Smith
casper@zip.com.au Alex van Vucht
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu Chris Siebenmann
cn236@freenet.carleton.ca Scott Delahunt
cybrpyro@infinet.com CyberPro
daniel.rybowski@infoboard.be Daniel Rybowski
dconner@clark.net David Conner
dmorris@cloud9.net Dan Morris
doc@america.net Robert T. Wynne=09
drizzt10@aol.com Jeff Barnes
dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Dave Van Domelen
dzeigler@ix.netcom.com Drew Zeigler
eds7466@UMoncton.ca Danny Sichel
eli@NetUSA.Net Benjamin Elijah Griffin
fuy1@gl.umbc.edu Francis A Uy
godai@neosoft.com Chris Hutts
hgb@opt-sci.Arizona.EDU Hubert Bartels
homyak@erols.com Davey Jones
in5y116@public.uni-hamburg.de Cornelius Goetz von Olenhusen
IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Brent M. Sutherland
jaelle@sans.vuw.ac.nz Jessica Ihimaera-Smiler
Jamas.Enright@vuw.ac.nz Jamas Enright
jdg@rahul.net John David Galt
jdroth@hsonline.net jdroth@hsonline.net<Jonathan Roth>
jeremy@exit109.com Jeremy Nixon
jnf@wwa.com Joel N. Fischoff
JohnHeaton@aol.com John Heaton
John_Lawrence_Morgan@Brown.edu John Morgan
jonrober@eyrie.org Jon Robertson
jpalmer@be.com Joseph Palmer
jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
jsk591@merle.acns.nwu.edu Joshua Kreitzer
katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Katharine Weizel
katie@physics.Berkeley.EDU Katie Schwarz
kbibb@best.com Ken Bibb
kimketo@sol.utu.fi Kimmo Ketolainen +358 40 555 5508
klucke@pacifier.com*.--remove.the.star.to.reply Ken Lucke
klucke@VNET.IBM.COM Kyle Lucke
kmwilcox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu K. Michael Wilcox
laefer@ix.netcom.com Jay Laefer
lbmgmd@epix.net Jack Grimes
lennox@cs.columbia.edu Jonathan Lennox
lenssen@mzdmza.zdv.uni-mainz.de Matthias Dietz-Lenssen
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder
llgerholz@mmm.com Laurie Gerholz
llurch@networking.stanford.edu Richard Charles Graves
lvirden@cas.org Larry W. Virden
mac7@po.CWRU.Edu Michael A. Chary
marcs@wam.umd.edu Marc Singer
Masmune1@concentric.net Joshua J. Friedman
matthew.lewis@yale.edu Matthew Lewis
mdfst12+@pitt.edu Michael D Friedman
merkle@emunix.emich.edu Richard Merkle
mhclark@CCGATE.HAC.COM M.H. Clark
Michael@hero.ndh.com Michael Niedecken
mikko.uusitalo@netppl.fi Mikko Uusitalo
morrow@physics.rice.edu Greg Morrow
mosquito@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu John Nicholas Mosqueda
mre@christa.unh.edu Mike Escutia
mtpins@isca.uiowa.edu Michael T Pins
myrawebb@mont.mindspring.com Marcus Jackson
naddy@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber
nick@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman
OfficeExt@aol.com Karin Burton
ollivier.robert@eurocontrol.fr Ollivier Robert
osul@mail.dotcom.fr Didier Bretin
pawright@CCGATE.HAC.COM Patricia Wright
paxil@cancom.net Trevor Tymchuk
Phoenix@upc.qc.ca Louis-Philippe Giroux
pmelo@mat.uc.pt Paulo Melo
pmoyer@jurai.net Philip Moyer
quinet@gamers.org Raphael Quinet
rayb@shofixti.fc.hp.com Raymond Bingham
rgansler@facstaff.wisc.edu Bob Gansler
rgrahamr@qldnet.com.au Austin Armatys
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
rmcq@figment.as.utexas.edu Rebecca G. McQuitty
ronnie.grant@mogur.com Ronnie Grant
rory@romsys.demon.co.uk Rory McLean
rra@cs.stanford.edu Russ Allbery
rudolph.family@mcleod.net Dan Rudolph
russ@littlewood.math.okstate.edu Russ Smith
Saxon.Brenton@uts.edu.au Saxon Brenton
see@the.sig Jonathan Davis
septimus@ACSU.Buffalo.EDU J. Alan Septimus
silasd@psyber.com Silas Dunsmore
spectre@dhp.com H. Jameel al Khafiz
sthesken@fia.net Steven Thesken
superman@umich.edu David S. Carter
sw@eyrie.org Jesse "SW" Taylor
swede@shell.sojourn.com Gary W. Olson
sypkens.smit@tip.nl Matthijs Sypkens Smit
taube@isa.de Christian Taube
tenzil@io.com James Kiley
tlawson@amug.org Todd C. Lawson
tom@basil.icce.rug.nl Tom Hageman
troyesq@indirect.com T. Troy McNemar, Esq.
umgumpri@cc.UManitoba.CA Chris Gumprich
urbalor@eyrie.org Rick Rechowicz
vaughan99@sbc.edu Carolyn Vaughan
vervoort@fwi.uva.nl Marco R. Vervoort
whsudder@hamlet.uncg.edu William Sudderth
wmay@cisco.com Bill May
woodarda@acf2.NYU.EDU Andrew D. Woodard
WriterUK@aol.com Stephen Reid
wrobert2@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Suika Roberts
wyllieck@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA Craig Wyllie
ylee@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Yeechang Lee
zednenem@psu.edu David Menendez
zombie@netcom.com Erik Veit
zot@ampersand.com Mark Atwood
Voted No
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ars3@dana.ucc.nau.edu Arthur Spitzer
booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda
jlowther@pwa.acusd.edu John Lowther
john@handel.jlc.net John Leslie
jsi@idiom.com Michael Craft
khan@cs.nyu.edu Hasnain Khan
kimagure@halcyon.com Kimagure
kimdv@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn
lwagers@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu Lora Wagers
marquez@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez
MRROWWW@aol.com Dolores Scaldini
msoysal@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57
olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti
ramana@ecf.toronto.edu gopal g
shrao@nyx.net Shrisha Rao
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper
wakelyn@pinn.net N.T. Wakelyn
zed@cjnetworks.com Ned Fleming
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