From obiwan@netcom.com Tue Feb 22 16:15:44 1994
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From: obiwan@netcom.com (obiwan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.disney reorganization
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The traffic on rec.arts.disney seems heavily loaded in two main directions:
towards the Disney Parks and the Disney movies. Thus, perhaps a split is
in order along the following lines:
rec.arts.disney.parks For the discussion of Disneyworld, Disneyland,
Eurodisney, and Tokyo Disney.
rec.arts.disney.movies For the discussion of Disney animated and live
action films.
rec.arts.disney.misc For the discussion of things which don't fall
into the first two groups.
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From arielle@bonkers.taronga.com Wed Sep 21 18:34:13 1994
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From: Stephanie da Silva <arielle@bonkers.taronga.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,rec.parks.theme,rec.arts.animation
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.disney reorganization
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This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of
the unmoderated newsgroup, rec.arts.disney.
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.arts.disney, alt.fan.disney.afternoon, rec.parks.theme, and
rec.arts.animation with follow-ups set to news.groups. All discussion
regarding this proposal should take place in news.groups.
Rationale: Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic
running 700 to 1000 articles per week (according to July arbitron, traffic
for that month was 3651 articles). There are a number of frequently
discussed topics that are of particular interest to distinct groups of
people that are largely unrelated to each other. Signal to noise ratio
is probably pretty good, if you happen to be one of the few people who are
interested in all of them. Otherwise, the noise level is very high. The
topic of splitting the newsgroup comes up often, always accompanied by
complaints from users about the high volume and the noise.
Proposal: rec.arts.disney be split into 5 unmoderated groups:
rec.arts.disney.roleplaying
rec.arts.disney.television
rec.arts.disney.animation
rec.arts.disney.parks
rec.arts.disney.misc
Charters:
rec.arts.disney.roleplaying (unmoderated)
For role-playing, primarily the role-playing carried out by the Future
Disney Cabinet (FDC). The Future Disney Cabinet is a game played by
a small fraction of the readers of this group (about 250 out of a
projected readership of 80,000 according the July arbitron). Each has
adopted an alias of a popular Disney character, and they engage in
extensive discussions that ignore most of the readers of the newsgroup.
They do use keywords, but still their chatter generates many complaints,
since just these messages add up to between 15 to 20 percent of the
traffic, or roughly 130 articles per week -- plenty to support a group
of their own! From the perspective of someone who has read rec.arts.disney
long before the advent of the FDC, I believe the newsgroup would benefit
the most from this subgroup being split out, since it is a clearly defined
subset of the traffic.
rec.arts.disney.television (unmoderated)
The Disney Channel, Disney Television animation, and related topics.
rec.arts.disney.animation (unmoderated)
The feature animations, trivia lists, merchandise, video releases,
animation errors, etc.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
When rec.parks.theme was created, it was assumed that park discussion
on rec.arts.disney would split out. This has not been the case, as
readers of both r.p.t and r.a.d feel that disney theme-park talk belongs
in r.a.d, indicated by continued theme-park-related threads in r.a.d.
This group would be for discussion of all the parks (DisneyLand, Disney
World, EuroDisney, Epcot, etc) and related matters.
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of the
other catagories. FAQs, Disney Stores, corporate rumours, collectables,
conventions, etc.
This newsgroup would replace the existing rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
Discussion will run for a minumum of 21 days. The newsgroups in this
proposal are subject to change, and if major changes are necessary, the
discussion period may be extended an additional 7 days.
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted after the end of the discussion period.
The vote will be run by a neutral third party.
This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines
set in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup". Please refer to this document
if you have questions about the process.
From arielle@bonkers.taronga.com Thu Sep 29 13:09:59 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Stephanie da Silva <arielle@bonkers.taronga.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,rec.parks.theme,rec.arts.animation
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.arts.disney reorganization
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Date: 29 Sep 1994 13:02:10 -0400
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This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of
the unmoderated newsgroup, rec.arts.disney.
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.arts.disney, alt.fan.disney.afternoon, rec.parks.theme, and
rec.arts.animation with follow-ups set to news.groups. All discussion
regarding this proposal should take place in news.groups.
Rationale: Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic
running 700 to 900 articles per week (according to July arbitron, traffic
for that month was 3651 articles). There are a number of frequently
discussed topics that are of particular interest to separate groups of
people that are largely unrelated to each other. Signal to noise ratio
is probably pretty good, if you happen to be one of the few people who are
interested in all of them. Otherwise, the noise level is very high. The
topic of splitting the newsgroup comes up often, always accompanied by
complaints from users about the high volume and the noise.
>From an informal sampling of all articles posted during a two-week period,
it appears that approximately 50 percent of the traffic can be attributed to
two distinct subjects of interest. The first and largest of these, adding
up to 30 to 35 percent of the traffic, is discussion about the theme parks.
It has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place to
move this discussion, though it appears that people interested in Disney
theme parks will naturally migrate to rec.arts.disney and educating them
about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not be an easy task.
The second subject, adding up to 15 to 20 percent of the traffic, is a game
played by the Future Disney Cabinet (FDC). The FDC originally started as
an in-joke among a small fraction of the readers, but has blossomed into
long running threads that have little to do with the charter of the newsgroup
as a whole. Their antics, while harmless, annoy other users, generating
complaints which often turn into flame wars. Their dedicated use of keywords
has not appeared to have improved the situation noticeably.
Proposal: rec.arts.disney be split into 5 unmoderated groups:
rec.arts.disney.fandom
rec.arts.disney.television
rec.arts.disney.movies
rec.arts.disney.parks
rec.arts.disney.misc
Charters:
rec.arts.disney.fandom (unmoderated)
A place where any and all fans of Disney may meet to share their enthusiasm
with other fans. For role-playing, including the role-playing carried out
by the Future Disney Cabinet (FDC). For discussion of FDC get-togethers at
theme parks, on IRC, etc. For stories, poems, and songs written by fans.
rec.arts.disney.television (unmoderated)
The Disney Channel, Disney Television animation, and related topics.
rec.arts.disney.movies (unmoderated)
The feature movies (both animated and live-action), trivia lists, video
releases, merchandise, animation errors, etc.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
For discussion of all the parks (Disneyland, Disney World, EuroDisney,
Epcot, etc) and related matters including (but not limited to) the
resorts.
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of the
other catagories. This includes FAQs, Disney Stores, corporate rumours,
collectables, conventions, music, comics/books, etc. This newsgroup
would replace the existing rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
Discussion will run for a minumum of 21 days. The newsgroups in this
proposal are subject to change, and if major changes are necessary, the
discussion period may be extended an additional 7 days.
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted after the end of the discussion period.
The vote will be run by a neutral third party.
This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines
set in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup". Please refer to this document
if you have questions about the process.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Thu Oct 20 13:43:55 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,rec.parks.theme,rec.arts.animation
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.disney.{misc,parks,movies,social,television}
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.movies
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.social
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.television
Newsgroups lines:
rec.arts.disney.misc Disney-related topics not covered by the other groups.
rec.arts.disney.parks Disney theme parks and resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies Disney feature films, both animated and live-action.
rec.arts.disney.social Fandom, chatting, role-playing, get-togethers, stories.
rec.arts.disney.television Programs marketed by Disney for home viewing.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 November 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists The Disney Afternoon Mailing List
<ranger-list-request@taronga.com> and disney-comics
<disney-comics-requeset@student.docs.uu.se>
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Stephanie da Silva <arielle@taronga.com>
CHARTER
rec.arts.disney.misc
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of the
other categories. This includes FAQs, Disney Stores, corporate rumours,
collectables, conventions, music, comics/books, etc. This newsgroup
would replace the existing rec.arts.disney newsgroup, which will be
removed after three months to allow time for traffic to migrate.
rec.arts.disney.parks
For discussion of all the parks (Disneyland, Epcot, Magic Kingdom,
MGM Studios, Tokyo Disneyland, Disneyland Paris, etc) and related
matters including (but not limited to) the resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies
The feature movies released to theaters (both animated and live-action),
trivia lists, mass-market merchandising, animation errors, etc.
rec.arts.disney.social
Where any and all fans of Disney may meet to share their enthusiasm with
other fans. For all role-playing activities and long-running scenarios.
For discussion of gatherings at the theme parks, on IRC, etc. For stories,
poems, parodies, and songs written by fans.
rec.arts.disney.television
The Disney Channel, and Monday through Friday daytime and
Saturday/Sunday morning television cartoons and animation. Anything
currently or previously broadcast on television by Disney. Products
marketed by Disney for home viewing on television, including anything
produced by Disney Television Animation or Buena Vista, and Home Video
releases.
Rationale: Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic
running 700 to 900 articles per week (according to the July arbitron,
traffic for that month was 3651 articles). There are a number of
frequently discussed topics that are of particular interest to distinct
groups of people that are largely unrelated to each other. Signal to
noise ratio is probably pretty good, if you happen to be one of the few
people who are interested in all of them. Otherwise, the noise level is
very high. The topic of splitting the newsgroup comes up often, always
accompanied by complaints from users about the high volume and the noise.
An informal sampling of all articles posted to rec.arts.disney during a
two-week period in September showed that approximately 30 to 35 percent
of the traffic can be attributed to discussion about the theme parks. It
has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place to
move this discussion, though it appears that people interested in Disney
theme parks will naturally migrate to rec.arts.disney and educating them
about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not be an easy
task.
HOW TO VOTE
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Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Tue Nov 1 18:32:35 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,rec.parks.theme,rec.arts.animation
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.disney.{misc,parks,movies,social,television}
Supersedes: <rec.arts.disney-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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References: <rec.arts.disney-reorg-RFD1@uunet.uu.net> <rec.arts.disney-reorg-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias)
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.movies
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.social
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.television
Newsgroups lines:
rec.arts.disney.misc Disney-related topics not covered by the other groups.
rec.arts.disney.parks Disney theme parks and resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies Disney feature films, both animated and live-action.
rec.arts.disney.social Fandom, chatting, role-playing, get-togethers, stories.
rec.arts.disney.television Programs marketed by Disney for home viewing.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 November 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists The Disney Afternoon Mailing List
<ranger-list-request@taronga.com> and disney-comics
<disney-comics-requeset@student.docs.uu.se>
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Stephanie da Silva <arielle@taronga.com>
CHARTER
rec.arts.disney.misc
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of the
other categories. This includes FAQs, Disney Stores, corporate rumours,
collectables, conventions, music, comics/books, etc. This newsgroup
would replace the existing rec.arts.disney newsgroup, which will be
removed after three months to allow time for traffic to migrate.
rec.arts.disney.parks
For discussion of all the parks (Disneyland, Epcot, Magic Kingdom,
MGM Studios, Tokyo Disneyland, Disneyland Paris, etc) and related
matters including (but not limited to) the resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies
The feature movies released to theaters (both animated and live-action),
trivia lists, mass-market merchandising, animation errors, etc.
rec.arts.disney.social
Where any and all fans of Disney may meet to share their enthusiasm with
other fans. For all role-playing activities and long-running scenarios.
For discussion of gatherings at the theme parks, on IRC, etc. For stories,
poems, parodies, and songs written by fans.
rec.arts.disney.television
The Disney Channel, and Monday through Friday daytime and
Saturday/Sunday morning television cartoons and animation. Anything
currently or previously broadcast on television by Disney. Products
marketed by Disney for home viewing on television, including anything
produced by Disney Television Animation or Buena Vista, and Home Video
releases.
Rationale: Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic
running 700 to 900 articles per week (according to the July arbitron,
traffic for that month was 3651 articles). There are a number of
frequently discussed topics that are of particular interest to distinct
groups of people that are largely unrelated to each other. Signal to
noise ratio is probably pretty good, if you happen to be one of the few
people who are interested in all of them. Otherwise, the noise level is
very high. The topic of splitting the newsgroup comes up often, always
accompanied by complaints from users about the high volume and the noise.
An informal sampling of all articles posted to rec.arts.disney during a
two-week period in September showed that approximately 30 to 35 percent
of the traffic can be attributed to discussion about the theme parks. It
has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place to
move this discussion, though it appears that people interested in Disney
theme parks will naturally migrate to rec.arts.disney and educating them
about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not be an easy
task.
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Give your real name here:
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[ ] rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney)
[ ] rec.arts.disney.parks
[ ] rec.arts.disney.movies
[ ] rec.arts.disney.social
[ ] rec.arts.disney.television
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
rec.arts.disney reorg Bounce List - No need to revote
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agon@sefl.satelnet.org Emmanuel J. Agon
Bill_Stewart-Cole@netcom.com Bill Stewart-Cole
john@iastate.edu john hascall
jpimentel@nectech.com John Pimentel
jwd@spielberg.att.com Richard M. Tarabour
modell@halcyon.com Celia H. Modell
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller
Sldickens@indirect.com Lou Dickens
tgaul@halcyon.com Melissa Gaul
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Fri Nov 11 09:01:42 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,rec.parks.theme,rec.arts.animation
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.disney.{misc,parks,movies,social,television} all fail
Supersedes: <rec.arts.disney-reorg-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
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Date: 10 Nov 1994 23:04:15 -0500
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RESULT
rec.arts.disney reorg results - 546 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
289 246 : No No : No : rec.arts.disney.misc
290 245 : No No : No : rec.arts.disney.parks
289 244 : No No : No : rec.arts.disney.movies
263 265 : No No : No : rec.arts.disney.social
261 261 : No No : No : rec.arts.disney.television
Newsgroups lines:
rec.arts.disney.misc Disney-related topics not covered by the other groups.
rec.arts.disney.parks Disney theme parks and resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies Disney feature films, both animated and live-action.
rec.arts.disney.social Fandom, chatting, role-playing, get-togethers, stories.
rec.arts.disney.television Programs marketed by Disney for home viewing.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Stephanie da Silva <arielle@taronga.com>
CHARTER
rec.arts.disney.misc
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of the
other categories. This includes FAQs, Disney Stores, corporate rumours,
collectables, conventions, music, comics/books, etc. This newsgroup
would replace the existing rec.arts.disney newsgroup, which will be
removed after three months to allow time for traffic to migrate.
rec.arts.disney.parks
For discussion of all the parks (Disneyland, Epcot, Magic Kingdom,
MGM Studios, Tokyo Disneyland, Disneyland Paris, etc) and related
matters including (but not limited to) the resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies
The feature movies released to theaters (both animated and live-action),
trivia lists, mass-market merchandising, animation errors, etc.
rec.arts.disney.social
Where any and all fans of Disney may meet to share their enthusiasm with
other fans. For all role-playing activities and long-running scenarios.
For discussion of gatherings at the theme parks, on IRC, etc. For stories,
poems, parodies, and songs written by fans.
rec.arts.disney.television
The Disney Channel, and Monday through Friday daytime and
Saturday/Sunday morning television cartoons and animation. Anything
currently or previously broadcast on television by Disney. Products
marketed by Disney for home viewing on television, including anything
produced by Disney Television Animation or Buena Vista, and Home Video
releases.
Rationale: Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic
running 700 to 900 articles per week (according to the July arbitron,
traffic for that month was 3651 articles). There are a number of
frequently discussed topics that are of particular interest to distinct
groups of people that are largely unrelated to each other. Signal to
noise ratio is probably pretty good, if you happen to be one of the few
people who are interested in all of them. Otherwise, the noise level is
very high. The topic of splitting the newsgroup comes up often, always
accompanied by complaints from users about the high volume and the noise.
An informal sampling of all articles posted to rec.arts.disney during a
two-week period in September showed that approximately 30 to 35 percent
of the traffic can be attributed to discussion about the theme parks. It
has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place to
move this discussion, though it appears that people interested in Disney
theme parks will naturally migrate to rec.arts.disney and educating them
about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not be an easy
task.
rec.arts.disney reorg Final Vote Ack
rec.arts.disney.television -------+
rec.arts.disney.social ------+|
rec.arts.disney.movies -----+||
rec.arts.disney.parks ----+|||
rec.arts.disney.misc ---+||||
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pobermarck@intellicorp.com Philip R. Obermarck YYY--
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Production@aol.com Ray Alcazar NNNNN
pwu@eos.ncsu.edu YYY--
quozl@netcom.com Dennis M. Falk YYYYY
RADFDC@aol.com John Howard NNNNN
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ralphjr@uclink2.berkeley.edu Rafael Castaneda, Jr. NNNNN
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raskinj@panix.com Joel Raskin YY-Y-
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rdyreng@nyx.cs.du.edu Russell I. Dyreng YYYYY
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rjones@us.oracle.com Roger B. Jones, Jr. NNNNN
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robbiew@inviso.com Robbie Westmoreland YYYYY
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robert_schooley@studio.disney.com Robert Schooley YYYYY
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russbob9@camelot.bradley.edu Russell Warning NNNNN
russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Russell Schulz, Former r.a.disney YYYYY
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rwl2@midway.uchicago.edu Richard Lindstrom : NNNNN
ryanliu@unixg.ubc.ca Ryan Liu YYYYY
s2103420@cse.unsw.edu.au Matthew Garward NNNNN
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sanderso@cs.rpi.edu Donald Sanderson NNNNN
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sarabi@vnet.net Pamela Shaw NNNNN
sasjrm@unx.sas.com Jeff McDermott YYYYY
sbrownlee@huey.csun.edu Suzan Brownlee Y--Y-
SBWV%UTEP.bitnet@utepvm.utep.edu FRANCISCO VENEGAS NYNNN
scf@w0x0f.com Steve Fenwick YYYYY
sderby@netcom.com Steve Derby YYYYY
sfarmer@goldsword.com Susan B. Farmer YYYYY
shaunc@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM Lou Radargun Cop Testicle Equalizer Scre NNNYN
shawn@IS.NET Shawn Connelly YYYYY
sherline@merle.acns.nwu.edu NNNNN
shulman@sharaku.jeol.com NNNNN
SIRVINE@waikato.ac.nz S Irvine NNNNN
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sledge@hammer.oche.de Thomas Bueschgens NNNNN
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snorton@netcom.com Scott Nortonm YYYYY
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ST37117@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU CHris Collett YNYYY
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steve@hpdml71.boi.hp.com Steve Petrie YYYYY
steven.duff@sasquat.com Steven Duff NNNNN
stevez@rhythm.com steveZ NNNNN
Steve_Lammert@transarc.com NYYYY
stewkell@cwis.isu.edu Kelly G. Stewart NNNNN
stimpy@marimba.wimsey.bc.ca jack webb YYYYY
strom@nevada.edu Joshua D. Strom NNNNN
suej@microsoft.com Sue Jackson YYYYY
sunken@gate.net Louis Allen NNNNN
Susan.Plass@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Susan Plass NNNNN
Sutor@Fwva.Saic.Com Rhonda Sutor NNNNN
SV_MN@physik.uni-paderborn.de Matthias Neu NNNNN
swcxt@boco.co.gov Shane Castle YYYYY
SWIFFENR@cc.curtin.edu.au Richard Wiffen NNNNN
swm@r3125swm.atl.hp.com Sandy Morton NNNNN
tad_stones@studio.disney.com Tad Stones YYNNY
Tatum.Mark@tcinc.com Mark Tatum YYYYY
tbpic1@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au Tim Pickett NNNNN
tedp@wrq.com Ted Peters YYYYY
Teresa.King@cle.ab.com Teresa A. King YYYYY
terrda%scoe.dnet.vitro.com@vitro.vitro.com Dan S. Allex NNNNN
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teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Lani Teshima-Miller YYYY-
tfdpress@acpub.duke.edu Thomas Fenske YYYNY
tgaul@halcyon.com Melissa Gaul NNNNN
tgm@netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams NNNNN
TheLazer@aol.com NNYNY
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thyme@crl.ucsd.edu Ann Thyme NNNNN
TIGGERO1@aol.com Dan Bejma YYNNN
tim.bono@asb.com M. Timothy Bono (Tim.Bono@asb.com) YYNNN
tishaek@merle.acns.nwu.edu Tisha Elizabeth Eleanor King NYNNN
TJ_MOLL@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA Thomas Moll NYYNN
tmacl@chevron.com Gail MacLeish YYYYY
tmc141@skdad.usask.ca Todd Cocks NYYNN
tmcdonne@hpuxsrve.apo.ford.com Tracy McDonnell YYYYY
tmorgan@as.arizona.edu William Tad Morgan YYYYY
TMP_HARKINS@DIRAC.PHYSICS.JMU.EDU Kevin Harkins NNNNN
toddm@titan.ucs.umass.edu Todd D. McCartney YYYYY
tomb@TFS.COM Tom Burke YYYYY
traci@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Traci Mitchell NNNNN
tyger@netcom.com Kristen Kohlbecker YYYYY
ustas@ada.dfci.harvard.edu Beth Ustas Spellman NNYYY
V148RB5B@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Collin McCulley YYYYY
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vgriscep@wam.umd.edu VGR (Craig Pell) YYY-Y
vintage@lightside.com Stephen Worth (vintage@lightside.com) YYYYY
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wakko@kaiwan.com Jason A. Badger YY-Y-
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zeitler@ct.picker.com Judy Zeitler YYYYY
zelevin@MIT.EDU Vladimir V. Zelevinsky NNNNN
From arielle@bonkers.taronga.com Wed May 3 19:17:16 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: arielle@bonkers.taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,alt.fan.furry,rec.arts.animation,rec.parks.theme
Subject: RFD: rec.arts.disney reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 3 May 1995 15:28:44 -0400
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Lines: 107
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <3o8lhc$s2v@rodan.UU.NET>
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Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6753 news.groups:147423 rec.arts.disney:91449 alt.fan.disney.afternoon:4332 alt.fan.furry:30380 rec.arts.animation:35112 rec.parks.theme:2641
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.marketplace
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.movies
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.television
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc (renames rec.arts.disney)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of
the unmoderated newsgroup, rec.arts.disney.
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.arts.disney, alt.fan.disney.afternoon, alt.fan.furry, rec.arts.animation
and rec.parks.theme, with follow-ups set to news.groups.
All discussion regarding this proposal should take place in news.groups.
RATIONALE
Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic running
approximately 200 articles per day. Traffic on the newsgroup has
shown a steady increase over the past year.
In April, there were approximately 5970 articles posted to the newsgroup
for a total of about 11 megabytes.
According to Brian Reid's March 1995 arbitron, there were 6470 articles
posted for a total of 11.7 megabytes.
According to the January 1995 arbitron, there were 4437 articles posted
for a total of 8.1 megabytes.
The traffic for July 1994 was 3651 articles.
While the noise level tends to run high, there also tends to be a lot of
useful information disseminated through the newsgroup. Two topics in
particular generate quite a bit of traffic on their own. These two topics
are discussion about the parks and the full length theatrically-released
animated movies. Just the traffic generated by these two topics alone
would be enough to justify a split.
It has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place
to move the parks discussion. Judging from the amount of parks talk on
rec.arts.disney, it appears that people interested in Disney theme parks
will naturally migrate to a newsgroup about Disney related matters.
Educating them about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not
be an easy task. Considerable Disney parks related traffic is posted to
rec.arts.disney despite monthly pointers requesting users to cross-post
parks related discussion to rec.parks.theme. An informal grep of the
Subject: lines of 6069 articles in my current rec.arts.disney newsfeed
pulled up 606 articles tagged with the "wd(w)" keyword; 241 tagged with
"dl"; 149 tagged with "park(s)"; and 195 tagged with "disneyland". By
contrast, the March arbitron indicates 206 articles were posted to
rec.parks.theme during that month. I feel that a smaller, more focused
newsgroup such as rec.arts.disney.parks will be more conduicive to
cross-posting by readers and will help to increase traffic on rec.parks.theme.
The creation of rec.arts.disney.television will make the corresponding
alt.fan.disney.afternoon newsgroup redundant, and I recommend that a.f.d.a
be rmgrouped after the creation of r.a.d.television.
Proposal: rec.arts.disney be split into 5 unmoderated groups:
rec.arts.disney.misc
rec.arts.disney.parks
rec.arts.disney.movies
rec.arts.disney.television
rec.arts.disney.marketplace
CHARTERS
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of
the other categories. This newsgroup would replace the existing
rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
For discussion of all the parks (Disneyland, Epcot, Magic Kingdom,
MGM Studios, Tokyo Disneyland, Disneyland Paris, etc) and related
matters including (but not limited to) the resorts.
rec.arts.disney.movies (unmoderated)
The feature movies released to theaters, both animated and live-action
the creative and production personnel, actors, artists, composers, the
viewing audience and anything else related to these productions.
rec.arts.disney.television (unmoderated)
The Disney Channel, and Monday through Friday daytime and Saturday and
Sunday morning television cartoons and animation. Anything currently or
previously broadcast on television by Disney. Any televised specials or
shows that involve Disney. Products marketed by Disney for home viewing
on television, including anything produced by Disney Television Animation
or Buena Vista, and Home Video releases.
rec.arts.disney.marketplace (unmoderated)
For people wanting to sell or wanting to buy any Disney-related item,
including collectables and rare videos. Also for discussion about
Disneyana, mass-market merchandising and the Disney Stores.
Discussion will run a minumum of 21 days. The newsgroups in this proposal
are subject to change, and if major changes are necessary, the discussion
period may be extended an additional 7 days.
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted after the end of the discussion period.
The vote will be run by a neutral third party.
From arielle@bonkers.taronga.com Mon May 15 18:16:56 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: arielle@bonkers.taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,alt.fan.furry,rec.arts.animation,rec.parks.theme,alt.disney,alt.disney.collecting,alt.disney.disneyland
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.arts.disney reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 15 May 1995 13:06:13 -0400
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Lines: 151
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <3p81m5$e56@rodan.UU.NET>
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Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6833 news.groups:149545 rec.arts.disney:93353 alt.fan.disney.afternoon:4397 alt.fan.furry:30722 rec.arts.animation:35498 rec.parks.theme:2736 alt.disney:938 alt.disney.collecting:838 alt.disney.disneyland:931
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.arts.disney.announce
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.products
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.animation
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc (renames rec.arts.disney)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of
the unmoderated newsgroup, rec.arts.disney.
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.arts.disney, alt.fan.disney.afternoon, alt.fan.furry, rec.parks.theme,
rec.arts.animation alt.disney.disneyland, alt.disney.collecting, and
alt.disney with follow-ups set to news.groups. All discussion regarding
this proposal should take place in news.groups.
RATIONALE
Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic running
approximately 200 articles per day. Traffic on the newsgroup has
shown a steady increase over the past year.
In April, there were approximately 5970 articles posted to the newsgroup
for a total of about 11 megabytes.
According to Brian Reid's March 1995 arbitron, there were 6470 articles
posted for a total of 11.7 megabytes.
According to the January 1995 arbitron, there were 4437 articles posted
for a total of 8.1 megabytes.
The traffic for July 1994 was 3651 articles.
While the noise level tends to run high, there also tends to be a lot of
useful information disseminated through the newsgroup. Two topics in
particular generate quite a bit of traffic on their own. These two topics
are discussion about the parks and the full length theatrically-released
animated movies. Just the traffic generated by these two topics alone
would be enough to justify a split.
It has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place
to move the parks discussion. Judging from the amount of parks talk on
rec.arts.disney, it appears that people interested in Disney theme parks
will naturally migrate to a newsgroup about Disney related matters.
Educating them about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not
be an easy task. Considerable Disney parks related traffic is posted to
rec.arts.disney despite monthly pointers requesting users to cross-post
parks related discussion to rec.parks.theme. An informal grep of the
Subject: lines of 6069 articles in my current rec.arts.disney newsfeed
pulled up 606 articles tagged with the "wd(w)" keyword; 241 tagged with
"dl"; 149 tagged with "park(s)"; and 195 tagged with "disneyland". By
contrast, the March arbitron indicates 206 articles were posted to
rec.parks.theme during that month. I feel that a smaller, more focused
newsgroup such as rec.arts.disney.parks will be conducive to cross-posting
by readers and will help to increase traffic on rec.parks.theme.
Newsgroup proponents: Misti Jordan (griz@ee.tulane.edu)
Stephen Worth (sworth@vintageip.com)
Stephanie da Silva (arielle@taronga.com)
Proposal: rec.arts.disney be split into 5 groups:
rec.arts.disney.misc
rec.arts.disney.parks
rec.arts.disney.products
rec.arts.disney.animation
rec.arts.disney.announce
CHARTERS
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of
the other categories. This newsgroup would replace the existing
rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
Discussion of all Disney parks, restaurants, attractions, and resorts
of the past, present and future, including, but not limited to, the
Walt Disney World property, Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland
Paris.
rec.arts.disney.products (unmoderated)
Discussion relating to merchandise sold by the Disney Company. This
includes and is not limited to software, toys, commemorative items,
collectibles, music, books, and multimedia titles. This group would
serve as an area for people wanting to sell or wanting to buy any
Disney-related item. Also for discussion of Disneyana, mass-market
merchandising and the Disney Stores. Blatant and/or off-topic
advertising is inappropriate and will be discouraged.
rec.arts.disney.animation (unmoderated)
All Disney animated movies and short subjects, past, present, and
future, whether released theatrically, televised or on video. This
includes discussion of studios, voice actors, animators, writers, and
any other matters relating to the animated works.
rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Frequently Asked Questions files, including newsgroup FAQs, theme park
FAQs, and Internet resource lists. No discussion will be allowed.
Other articles may be posted at the moderator's discretion, providing
they are informational in nature, are publicly distributable and
have come from confirmed sources.
The following articles are typical of what would be acceptable for
posting to r.a.d.announce:
FAQ/DIG: DL Info Guide 1 of 3 4/6/95
Network Artist picture(s) have been posted
FDCMuck: how to obtain a guest passport
r.a.d IRC meet, Wednesday 12 April
rec.arts.disney List of Lists
Welcome to RAD New Readers! - Please Read Before Posting
R.A.D Meet in Boston, June 16th
FAQ: Disney FTP and WWW sites
rec.arts.disney Rate Poll Introduction
FILM: Poca Premiere in NYC - Tickets
Disney animation video availability list
RAD Host List - For Help on rec.arts.disney
Disney Stores List
PARKS: DL Terrorism hoax
DISNEYANA: Wash./Balt./No. VA Show
Disney's B&B Stageshow celeb's to appear at TDS
Mara Font Release
Monthly reminder: Please crosspost.
5th Annual Gay & Lesbian Day at Disney World
WDW Operating Hours: June 1995
RECALL ALERT - Disney Play 'N Pop activity toy
MODERATOR INFORMATION
Group name: rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Moderators: Tim Pickett (tlm@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au)
M. L. Grant (grant@halycon.com)
Backup Moderators: Don Bertino (bertino@netcom.com)
Sean Rabbitt (aladdin42@delphi.com)
Melyssa Childs (mlchilds@orion.naz.edu)
Submission address: rad-announce@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Request address: rad-announce-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Discussion will run a minumum of 21 days. The newsgroups in this proposal
are subject to change, and if major changes are necessary, the discussion
period may be extended an additional 7 days.
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted after the end of the discussion period.
The vote will be run by a neutral third party.
From arielle@bonkers.taronga.com Mon Jun 12 13:33:36 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: arielle@bonkers.taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,alt.fan.furry,rec.arts.animation,rec.parks.theme,alt.disney,alt.disney.collecting,alt.disney.disneyland
Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.arts.disney reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 12 Jun 1995 13:05:15 -0400
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Lines: 157
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <3rhs4b$pqu@rodan.UU.NET>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7040 news.groups:153332 rec.arts.disney:97561 alt.fan.disney.afternoon:4652 alt.fan.furry:31801 rec.arts.animation:36455 rec.parks.theme:2955 alt.disney:1224 alt.disney.collecting:1156 alt.disney.disneyland:1178
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.arts.disney.announce
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.merchandise
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.animation
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc (renames rec.arts.disney)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization
of the unmoderated newsgroup, rec.arts.disney. The only major change
since the previous RFD is in the name of one group, from
rec.arts.disney.products to rec.arts.disney.merchandise.
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.arts.disney, alt.fan.disney.afternoon, alt.fan.furry, rec.parks.theme,
rec.arts.animation alt.disney.disneyland, alt.disney.collecting, and
alt.disney with follow-ups set to news.groups. All discussion regarding
this proposal should take place in news.groups.
RATIONALE
Rec.arts.disney is a very high volume newsgroup, with traffic running
approximately 200 articles per day. Traffic on the newsgroup has
shown a steady increase over the past year.
In April, there were approximately 5970 articles posted to the newsgroup
for a total of about 11 megabytes.
According to Brian Reid's March 1995 arbitron, there were 6470 articles
posted for a total of 11.7 megabytes.
According to the January 1995 arbitron, there were 4437 articles posted
for a total of 8.1 megabytes.
The traffic for July 1994 was 3651 articles.
While the noise level tends to run high, there also tends to be a lot of
useful information disseminated through the newsgroup. Two topics in
particular generate quite a bit of traffic on their own. These two topics
are discussion about the parks and the full length theatrically-released
animated movies. Just the traffic generated by these two topics alone
would be enough to justify a split.
It has been suggested that rec.parks.theme might be an appropriate place
to move the parks discussion. Judging from the amount of parks talk on
rec.arts.disney, it appears that people interested in Disney theme parks
will naturally migrate to a newsgroup about Disney related matters.
Educating them about a related newsgroup in a different hierarchy might not
be an easy task. Considerable Disney parks related traffic is posted to
rec.arts.disney despite monthly pointers requesting users to cross-post
parks related discussion to rec.parks.theme. An informal grep of the
Subject: lines of 6069 articles in my current rec.arts.disney newsfeed
pulled up 606 articles tagged with the "wd(w)" keyword; 241 tagged with
"dl"; 149 tagged with "park(s)"; and 195 tagged with "disneyland". By
contrast, the March arbitron indicates 206 articles were posted to
rec.parks.theme during that month. I feel that a smaller, more focused
newsgroup such as rec.arts.disney.parks will be conducive to cross-posting
by readers and will help to increase traffic on rec.parks.theme.
Newsgroup proponents: Misti Jordan <griz@ee.tulane.edu>
Stephen Worth <sworth@vintageip.com>
Larry Smith <larrys@zk3.dec.com>
Stephanie da Silva <arielle@taronga.com>
Proposal: rec.arts.disney be split into 5 groups:
rec.arts.disney.misc
rec.arts.disney.parks
rec.arts.disney.merchandise
rec.arts.disney.animation
rec.arts.disney.announce
CHARTERS
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of
the other categories. This newsgroup would replace the existing
rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
Discussion of all Disney parks, restaurants, attractions, and resorts
of the past, present and future, including, but not limited to, the Walt
Disney World properties, Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland
Paris.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise (unmoderated)
Discussion relating to merchandise sold by the Disney Company. This
includes and is not limited to software, toys, commemorative items,
cels, artwork, collectibles, music, books, and multimedia titles. This
newsgroup would serve as an area for people wanting to sell or wanting
to buy any Disney-related item. Also for discussion of Disneyana,
conventions, mass-market merchandising and the Disney Stores. Blatant
and/or off-topic advertising is inappropriate and will be discouraged.
rec.arts.disney.animation (unmoderated)
All Disney animated movies and short subjects, past, present, and
future, whether released theatrically, televised or on video. This
includes but is not limited to discussion of studios, voice actors,
animators, and writers. For discussion of derivative works, such as
comparisons of ice shows, stage plays and live-action movies based on
the animated ones. For any and all other matters relating to the
animated works.
rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Frequently Asked Questions files, including newsgroup FAQs, theme park
FAQs, and Internet resource lists. No discussion will be allowed.
Other articles may be posted at the moderator's discretion, providing
they are informational in nature, are publicly distributable and
have come from confirmed sources.
The following articles are typical of what would be acceptable for
posting to r.a.d.announce:
FAQ/DIG: DL Info Guide 1 of 3 4/6/95
Network Artist picture(s) have been posted
FDCMuck: how to obtain a guest passport
r.a.d IRC meet, Wednesday 12 April
rec.arts.disney List of Lists
Welcome to RAD New Readers! - Please Read Before Posting
R.A.D Meet in Boston, June 16th
FAQ: Disney FTP and WWW sites
rec.arts.disney Rate Poll Introduction
FILM: Poca Premiere in NYC - Tickets
Disney animation video availability list
RAD Host List - For Help on rec.arts.disney
Disney Stores List
PARKS: DL Terrorism hoax
DISNEYANA: Wash./Balt./No. VA Show
Disney's B&B Stageshow celeb's to appear at TDS
Mara Font Release
Monthly reminder: Please crosspost.
5th Annual Gay & Lesbian Day at Disney World
WDW Operating Hours: June 1995
RECALL ALERT - Disney Play 'N Pop activity toy
MODERATOR INFORMATION
Group name: rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Moderators: Tim Pickett <tlm@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
M. L. Grant <grant@halycon.com>
Backup Moderators: Don Bertino <bertino@netcom.com>
Sean Rabbitt <aladdin42@delphi.com>
Melyssa Childs <mlchilds@orion.naz.edu>
Submission address: rad-announce@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Request address: rad-announce-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Since this is a modification of an existing proposal, discussion will
run seven days. If major changes are necessary, the discussion period
may be extended an additional 7 days.
A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted after the end of the discussion period.
The vote will be run by a neutral third party.
From gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu Thu Jun 22 00:20:56 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu (Brennan T. Price)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation,rec.parks.theme,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,alt.fan.furry,alt.disney,alt.disney.collecting,alt.disney.disneyland
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.disney reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 21 Jun 1995 23:58:36 -0400
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.animation
moderated group rec.arts.disney.announce
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney)
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.merchandise
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
Newsgroups lines:
rec.arts.disney.misc General topics pertinent to the Disney Company.
rec.arts.disney.parks Parks, resorts, dining, attractions, vacations.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise Toys, videos, music, books, art, collectibles.
rec.arts.disney.animation Animated features, cartoons, short subjects.
rec.arts.disney.announce FAQs, lists, info, announcements (Moderated).
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 13 July 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Brennan T. Price <gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu> (the
votetaker). For questions about the proposed groups, contact Misti
Jordan <griz@ee.tulane.edu> (the proponent).
OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV
The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to
which it is posted by the news.announce.newgroups moderator and the votetaker.
RATIONALE (from proponent):
This CFV isn't expected to reduce the total traffic in rec.arts.disney,
but to organize the existing discussion into broad categories that seem
to match well-defined subgroups among the readers. rec.arts.disney has
a wide and varied readership, and carries a wealth of information. Some
readers are only interested in certain aspects of the Disney organization,
others follow virtually everything the Walt Disney Company offers. Both
kinds of readers should benefit from this proposal: the narrowly focused
will be able to more easily concentrate on their areas of interest; and
those with a broad interest will be able to find material more easily,
as well as gaining the viewpoints and input of people who have previously
been overwhelmed by the group's richness and exuberence. This is a normal
stage that all popular groups seem to go through, lest they falter under
the weight of their own success.
CHARTERS (from proponent):
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of
the other categories. This newsgroup would replace the existing
rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
Discussion of all Disney parks, restaurants, attractions, and resorts of
the past, present and future, including, but not limited to, the Walt
Disney World properties, Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland
Paris.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise (unmoderated)
Discussion relating to merchandise sold by the Disney Company. This
includes and is not limited to software, toys, commemorative items, cels,
artwork, collectibles, music, books, and multimedia titles. This group
would serve as an area for people wanting to sell or wanting to buy any
Disney-related item. Also for discussion of Disneyana, conventions,
mass-market merchandising and the Disney Stores. Blatant and/or off-topic
advertising is inappropriate and will be discouraged.
rec.arts.disney.animation (unmoderated)
All Disney animated movies and short subjects, past, present, and
future, whether released theatrically, televised or on video. This
includes but is not limited to discussion of studios, voice actors,
animators, and writers. For discussion of derivative works, such
as ice shows and stage plays. For any and all other matters relating
to the animated works.
rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Frequently Asked Questions files, including newsgroup FAQs, theme park
FAQs, and Internet resource lists. No discussion will be allowed.
Other articles may be posted at the moderator's discretion, providing
they are informational in nature, are publicly distributable and
have come from confirmed sources.
MODERATOR INFORMATION
Group name: rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Moderators: Tim Pickett <tlm@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
M. L. Grant <grant@halycon.com>
Backup Moderators: Don Bertino <bertino@netcom.com>
Sean Rabbitt <aladdin42@delphi.com>
Melyssa Childs <mlchilds@orion.naz.edu>
Submission address: rad-announce@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Request address: rad-announce-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything
below the "END OF BALLOT" line. Do not erase anything between these lines
and do not change the group names. Basically, remove everything except the
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Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Then mail the ballot to: gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu
Just replying to this message should work.
Quick voting checklist:
1) Fill in the ballot form shown below.
2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply.
3) Make sure your reply goes to gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu.
========== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ==========
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For Votes cross-posted to news.announce.newgroups | REC.ARTS.DISNEY REORG
or e-mailed from the votetaker. Official ballots | OFFICIAL USENET BALLOT
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ballot significantly increases the chances that +-------------------------
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[ ] rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney)
[ ] rec.arts.disney.parks
[ ] rec.arts.disney.merchandise
[ ] rec.arts.disney.animation
[ ] rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
============= END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES
Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote
counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with
an automated acknowledgement by e-mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.
Anonymous votes will not be accepted. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are
considered anonymous votes. (The vote must be mailed directly from the
voter to the votetaker.)
In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard
operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.
Anyone who distributes pre-filled ballots or modified copies of this CFV
commits voting fraud. While distributing an unmodified CFV is allowed, it
is strongly discouraged, as the process of redistribution often adds headers
to the document that confuse the vote-taking software. Reference to the
official CFV in news.announce.newgroups or to a copy mailed directly from
the votetaker is preferred.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
--Brennan T. Price, UVV
Running UseVote 3.0
From gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu Tue Jul 11 13:27:15 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu (Brennan T. Price)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation,rec.parks.theme,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,alt.fan.furry,alt.disney,alt.disney.collecting,alt.disney.disneyland
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.disney reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 10 Jul 1995 18:16:25 -0400
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
rec.arts.disney reorganization
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.animation
moderated group rec.arts.disney.announce
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney)
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.merchandise
Newsgroups lines:
rec.arts.disney.misc General topics pertinent to the Disney Company.
rec.arts.disney.parks Parks, resorts, dining, attractions, vacations.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise Toys, videos, music, books, art, collectibles.
rec.arts.disney.animation Animated features, cartoons, short subjects.
rec.arts.disney.announce FAQs, lists, info, announcements (Moderated).
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC 13 July 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Brennan T. Price <gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu> (the
votetaker). For questions about the proposed groups, contact Misti
Jordan <griz@ee.tulane.edu> (the proponent).
OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV
The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to
which it is posted by the news.announce.newgroups moderator and the votetaker.
RATIONALE (from proponent):
This CFV isn't expected to reduce the total traffic in rec.arts.disney,
but to organize the existing discussion into broad categories that seem
to match well-defined subgroups among the readers. rec.arts.disney has
a wide and varied readership, and carries a wealth of information. Some
readers are only interested in certain aspects of the Disney organization,
others follow virtually everything the Walt Disney Company offers. Both
kinds of readers should benefit from this proposal: the narrowly focused
will be able to more easily concentrate on their areas of interest; and
those with a broad interest will be able to find material more easily,
as well as gaining the viewpoints and input of people who have previously
been overwhelmed by the group's richness and exuberence. This is a normal
stage that all popular groups seem to go through, lest they falter under
the weight of their own success.
CHARTERS (from proponent):
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of
the other categories. This newsgroup would replace the existing
rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
Discussion of all Disney parks, restaurants, attractions, and resorts of
the past, present and future, including, but not limited to, the Walt
Disney World properties, Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland
Paris.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise (unmoderated)
Discussion relating to merchandise sold by the Disney Company. This
includes and is not limited to software, toys, commemorative items, cels,
artwork, collectibles, music, books, and multimedia titles. This group
would serve as an area for people wanting to sell or wanting to buy any
Disney-related item. Also for discussion of Disneyana, conventions,
mass-market merchandising and the Disney Stores. Blatant and/or off-topic
advertising is inappropriate and will be discouraged.
rec.arts.disney.animation (unmoderated)
All Disney animated movies and short subjects, past, present, and
future, whether released theatrically, televised or on video. This
includes but is not limited to discussion of studios, voice actors,
animators, and writers. For discussion of derivative works, such
as ice shows and stage plays. For any and all other matters relating
to the animated works.
rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Frequently Asked Questions files, including newsgroup FAQs, theme park
FAQs, and Internet resource lists. No discussion will be allowed.
Other articles may be posted at the moderator's discretion, providing
they are informational in nature, are publicly distributable and
have come from confirmed sources.
MODERATOR INFORMATION
Group name: rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Moderators: Tim Pickett <tlm@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
M. L. Grant <grant@halycon.com>
Backup Moderators: Don Bertino <bertino@netcom.com>
Sean Rabbitt <aladdin42@delphi.com>
Melyssa Childs <mlchilds@orion.naz.edu>
Submission address: rad-announce@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Request address: rad-announce-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything
below the "END OF BALLOT" line. Do not erase anything between these lines
and do not change the group names. Basically, remove everything except the
ballot - we have to save them all on disk.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Then mail the ballot to: gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu
Just replying to this message should work.
Quick voting checklist:
1) Fill in the ballot form shown below.
2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply.
3) Make sure your reply goes to gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu.
========== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ==========
The only official sources of this ballot are Calls | SECOND CALL FOR VOTES
For Votes cross-posted to news.announce.newgroups | REC.ARTS.DISNEY REORG
or e-mailed from the votetaker. Official ballots | OFFICIAL USENET BALLOT
are distributed blank. Failure to use an official | <RAD-REORG-0002>
ballot significantly increases the chances that +-------------------------
the vote-counting software will be unable to process your vote. Beware.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Give your real name here:
If you do not give your real name, your vote will be rejected.
[Your Vote] Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ ] rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney)
[ ] rec.arts.disney.parks
[ ] rec.arts.disney.merchandise
[ ] rec.arts.disney.animation
[ ] rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
============= END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES
Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote
counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with
an automated acknowledgement by e-mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.
Anonymous votes will not be accepted. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are
considered anonymous votes. (The vote must be mailed directly from the
voter to the votetaker.)
In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard
operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.
Anyone who distributes pre-filled ballots or modified copies of this CFV
commits voting fraud. While distributing an unmodified CFV is allowed, it
is strongly discouraged, as the process of redistribution often adds headers
to the document that confuse the vote-taking software. Reference to the
official CFV in news.announce.newgroups or to a copy mailed directly from
the votetaker is preferred.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
rec.arts.disney reorganization Bounce List - No need to revote
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ahlstran@mgi.com Dave Ahlstrand
hiteknigh@aol.com Kaitlyn Rubin
lee@ibm.estd.battelle.org Billy L Lee
--Brennan T. Price, UVV
Running UseVote 3.0
From gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu Mon Jul 24 18:08:52 1995
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu (Brennan T. Price)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation,rec.parks.theme,alt.fan.disney.afternoon,alt.fan.furry,alt.disney,alt.disney.collecting,alt.disney.disneyland
Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.disney reorganization passes
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 19 Jul 1995 18:52:59 -0400
Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/
Lines: 543
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7184 news.groups:160231 rec.arts.disney:104800 rec.arts.animation:38641 rec.parks.theme:3243 alt.fan.disney.afternoon:5446 alt.fan.furry:33342 alt.disney:1690 alt.disney.collecting:1703 alt.disney.disneyland:1710
RESULT
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.animation passes 296:89
moderated group rec.arts.disney.announce passes 314:74
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.merchandise passes 292:87
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.misc passes 302:90
unmoderated group rec.arts.disney.parks passes 307:78
rec.arts.disney reorganization results - 399 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
302 90 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney)
307 78 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.arts.disney.parks
292 87 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.arts.disney.merchandise
296 89 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.arts.disney.animation
314 74 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.arts.disney.announce
20 invalid votes
The criteria for newsgroup creation have been met for all groups. Barring
any irregularities in the voting procedure, the groups will be created by
the news.announce.newgroups moderator after a five-day waiting period.
Newsgroups lines:
rec.arts.disney.misc General topics pertinent to the Disney Company.
rec.arts.disney.parks Parks, resorts, dining, attractions, vacations.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise Toys, videos, music, books, art, collectibles.
rec.arts.disney.animation Animated features, cartoons, short subjects.
rec.arts.disney.announce FAQs, lists, info, announcements (Moderated).
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC 13 July 1995.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Brennan T. Price <gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu> (the
votetaker). For questions about the proposed groups, contact Misti
Jordan <griz@ee.tulane.edu> (the proponent).
CHARTERS:
rec.arts.disney.misc (unmoderated)
For general Disney discussion and topics that don't fall into any of
the other categories. This newsgroup would replace the existing
rec.arts.disney newsgroup.
rec.arts.disney.parks (unmoderated)
Discussion of all Disney parks, restaurants, attractions, and resorts of
the past, present and future, including, but not limited to, the Walt
Disney World properties, Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and Disneyland
Paris.
rec.arts.disney.merchandise (unmoderated)
Discussion relating to merchandise sold by the Disney Company. This
includes and is not limited to software, toys, commemorative items, cels,
artwork, collectibles, music, books, and multimedia titles. This group
would serve as an area for people wanting to sell or wanting to buy any
Disney-related item. Also for discussion of Disneyana, conventions,
mass-market merchandising and the Disney Stores. Blatant and/or off-topic
advertising is inappropriate and will be discouraged.
rec.arts.disney.animation (unmoderated)
All Disney animated movies and short subjects, past, present, and
future, whether released theatrically, televised or on video. This
includes but is not limited to discussion of studios, voice actors,
animators, and writers. For discussion of derivative works, such
as ice shows and stage plays. For any and all other matters relating
to the animated works.
rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Frequently Asked Questions files, including newsgroup FAQs, theme park
FAQs, and Internet resource lists. No discussion will be allowed.
Other articles may be posted at the moderator's discretion, providing
they are informational in nature, are publicly distributable and
have come from confirmed sources.
MODERATOR INFORMATION
Group name: rec.arts.disney.announce (moderated)
Moderators: Tim Pickett <tlm@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
M. L. Grant <grant@halycon.com>
Backup Moderators: Don Bertino <bertino@netcom.com>
Sean Rabbitt <aladdin42@delphi.com>
Melyssa Childs <mlchilds@orion.naz.edu>
Submission address: rad-announce@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Request address: rad-announce-request@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
rec.arts.disney reorganization Final Vote Ack
rec.arts.disney.announce -------+
rec.arts.disney.animation ------+|
rec.arts.disney.merchandise -----+||
rec.arts.disney.parks ----+|||
rec.arts.disney.misc (replaces rec.arts.disney) ---+||||
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70243.635@compuserve.com Sarah Ponder YYYYY
a007547t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us Simon P. Duvall YYYYY
aa732@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Joe Navratil NNNNN
ab786@lafn.org Steven Kusnitz YYYYY
ac002@lafn.org Michael Block -Y---
adair@scr.siemens.com Jonathan Adair YYYYY
adaswani@sdcc10.ucsd.edu Adarsh Daswani YYYYY
admiral@access.digex.net Steve C. Liu NYNNN
afabbro@umich.edu Andrew Fabbro N----
ag650@yfn.ysu.edu Gino A. Melone YYYYY
ahc3@cornell.edu Alan H. Cohen YYYYY
AHJAW@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU Juliette Webb NNNNN
ahlstran@mgi.com Dave Ahlstrand YYYYY
ajna@umdsun2.umd.umich.edu Arthur Na NNNNN
akilgour@thinkage.on.ca Anita Kilgour NYNYY
Alan@produce.demon.co.uk Alan Cartledge YYYYY
alanh@primenet.com Alan Hamilton YYYYY
albers@cs.utexas.edu Brian Warren Albers YYYYY
allyn@sdd.hp.com Allyn Fratkin YYYYY
aloomis@whale.st.usm.edu Austin George Loomis YY-Y-
AlphaTest@aol.com John Knox YYYYY
amo@engin.umich.edu Andy Lesko YYYYY
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