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From lee@pro-novapple.clark.net Mon May 1 18:21:19 1995
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From: lee@pro-novapple.clark.net (Lee Raesly)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: RFD: rec.models.rc reorganization
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Date: 1 May 1995 16:07:55 -0400
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc renamcs rec.models.rc
Proposer: lee@pro-novapple.clark.net (Lee Raesly)
This RFD is being posted in accordance with the Guidelines for
Newsgroup Creation. This RFD is being issued in concordance with the
guidelines set in the "How to create a new usenet newsgroup" FAQ
regularly posted to news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to this
article if you have any questions about the newsgroup creation.
Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs. The RFD
will be cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.models.rc
In this context, it is proposed that the parent newsgroup --
rec.models.rc -- be renamed rec/models.rc.misc, and that this item
be voted on as a separate issue, independently of creation of the
individual groups proposed. Voters will be allowed to Abstain or vote No
on some parts of the proposal while supporting others.
Further, in this context, and to avoid repetition of the following
proposals mentioned recently in rec.models.rc, it is proposed that
three new RC Model newsgroups be considered during this
process, to wit:
=== BACKGROUND
The unmoderated newsgroup rec.models.rc has been the paramount forum
for news and discussion related to the Radio Control models. Further, the
FCC requires different frequencies be used for surface (75 MgHrtz) and air
(72 MgHrtz).
1.
rec.models.rc.land
Status: unmoderated
Distribution: world-wide
Proposer: lee@pro-novapple.clark.net (Lee Raesly)
Purpose: postings of questions and reports and other related information
concerning any radio control items operated on land. This includes cars
(both off road and on road) car racing, car clubs and other activities,
tanks, and related radio control devices intended to operate on land.
including related items for individual sale. This category accounts for
approximately one-third of the 300 messages a day on the parent newsgroup.
=== CHARTER
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to
disseminate reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information
related to radio control of land based items including related items for
individual sale.
2.
rec.models.rc.water
Status: unmoderated
Distribution: world-wide
Proposer: lee@pro-novapple.clark.net (Lee Raesly)
Purpose: Postings of questions and info on radio controlled vehicles to
operate on or in water. This includes all surface vehicles (powered and
wind driven), submarines, hydrofoil vehicles and information of clubs,
events, and other related activities, including related items for
individual sale. This category accounts for approximately one-third of the
300 messages a day on the parent newsgroup.
=== CHARTER
The rec,models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to
disseminate reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information
related to radio control of water based items including related items for
individual sale.
3.
Group Name : rec.models.rc.air
Status: unmoderated:
Distribution: world-wide
Proposer: lee@pro-novapple.clark.net (Lee Raesly)
Purpose: Postings of questions and information on radio controlled
air vehicles. This includes air related vehicles such as gliders, electric
and wet (gas) powered planes, blimps, etc. as well as discussion and
listing about related clubs, contests and other events. and other related
activities, including related items for individual sale. This category
accounts for approximately one-third of the 300 messages a day on the
parent newsgroup.
=== CHARTER
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to
disseminate reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information
related to radio control of air based items including related items for
individual sale.
4.
Rename rec.models.rc -> rec.models.rc.misc
The renaming of the base group follows modern usenet convention. It does
not indicate the relative importance of the various groups; it only servers
as a marker that more specialized groups do exist.
The charter will remain as it is, with the exception that postings
more relevant to subgroups should now be posted there, rather than
to the main group.
=== BACKGROUND
We calculate that in an average month, we're looking at about 9000-10000
messages. With the traffic growth normally expected on the internet, we
estimate that number will grow to between 12,000 and 15,000 by late summer.
I also think that a lot of players feel less reluctant to post email
related radio controlled stuff if there is a dedicated Usenet newsgroup for
each type.
=== CROSS POSTINGS
This RFD is being posted to rec.models.rc and, news.announce. When Call For
Votes (CFV) are issued, it can also be cross-posted in these groups.
=== FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES
After a discussion period of 7-21 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed groups, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD. The voting period will be at least
21 days. If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, it will be
created.
Take Care, Now! Lee...
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Proline: lee@pro-novapple Leon H. Raesly, LCSW-C
Internet: lee@pro-novapple.clark.net 7900 Old Branch Ave #208
UUCP: clarknet!pro-novapple!lee Clinton, MD 20735
Voice 301+868-9554
From griz@ee.tulane.edu Mon Jun 12 13:33:49 1995
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From: griz@ee.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: CFV: rec.models.rc reorganization
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Date: 12 Jun 1995 13:05:46 -0400
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)
Newsgroups lines:
rec.models.rc.land RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc RC controlled miscellaneous items.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 July 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact <griz@ee.tulane.edu>. For questions about the
proposed groups contact Lee Raesly <lee@pro-novapple.clark.net>.
RATIONALE:
This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on 300 articles
a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult for readers to
find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies for land and
air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the radio
frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.
In addition, the commonality of users is by form of rc, in other words,
that which is control (such as cars, planes, etc.), NOT in the method of
controlling (i.e. radio controlled).
CHARTERS:
BACKGROUND: This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on
300 articles a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult
for readers to find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies
for land and air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the
radio frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.
rec.models.rc.land -
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.air -
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.water -
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.misc -
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, (which I have been told is
mandatory under the current rules), whose charter will remain as it is,
with the exception that postings more relevant to subgroups should now be
posted there, rather than to the main group.
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Then mail the ballot to: griz@ee.tulane.edu
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rec.models.rc Reorg Ballot <RMR-0001> (Don't remove this marker)
Give your real name here:
[Your Vote] Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ ] rec.models.rc.air
[ ] rec.models.rc.land
[ ] rec.models.rc.water
[ ] rec.models.rc.misc
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
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Misti Jordan || Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
griz@ee.tulane.edu || found at: http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
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From griz@ee.tulane.edu Fri Jul 14 11:19:21 1995
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From: griz@ee.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: CFV CANCELLED: rec.models.rc reorganization
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Due to a software problem, the second Call for Votes (CFV) for the
reorganization of rec.models.rc was never published. The only thing I
can think of to remedy this situation is to reissue the CFV and start
the whole process over. For that reason, I am posting this message.
A new CFV will be posted at the same time as this message in
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and rec.models.rc. If you voted
in the original CFV, I will be sending you a copy of the CFV,
including a ballot. Please fill it out and return it to me to have
your vote counted. I apologize for any inconvenience this causes you,
but I can see no other way to correct this problem.
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From griz@ee.tulane.edu Fri Jul 14 11:19:24 1995
Status: RO
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From: griz@ee.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: CFV: rec.models.rc reorganization (revote)
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Date: 14 Jul 1995 00:23:18 -0000
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)
Newsgroups lines:
rec.models.rc.land RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc RC controlled miscellaneous items.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Aug 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact <griz@ee.tulane.edu>. For questions about the
proposed groups contact Lee Raesly <lee@pro-novapple.clark.net>.
CHARTERS:
BACKGROUND: This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on
300 articles a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult
for readers to find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies
for land and air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the
radio frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.
rec.models.rc.land -
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.air -
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.water -
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.misc -
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, (which I have been told is
mandatory under the current rules), whose charter will remain as it is,
with the exception that postings more relevant to subgroups should now be
posted there, rather than to the main group.
RATIONALE:
This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on 300 articles
a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult for readers to
find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies for land and
air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the radio
frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.
In addition, the commonality of users is by form of rc, in other words,
that which is control (such as cars, planes, etc.), NOT in the method of
controlling (i.e. radio controlled).
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Then mail the ballot to: griz@ee.tulane.edu
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rec.models.rc Reorg Ballot <RMR-0001> (Don't remove this marker)
Give your real name here:
[Your Vote] Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ ] rec.models.rc.air
[ ] rec.models.rc.land
[ ] rec.models.rc.water
[ ] rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Misti Jordan || Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
griz@ee.tulane.edu || found at: http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
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From griz@ee.tulane.edu Thu Jul 27 20:25:42 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: griz@ee.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.models.rc reorganization (revote)
Followup-To: poster
Date: 28 Jul 1995 00:25:14 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)
Newsgroups lines:
rec.models.rc.land RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc RC controlled miscellaneous items.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 August 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact <griz@ee.tulane.edu>. For questions about the
proposed groups contact Lee Raesly <lee@pro-novapple.clark.net>.
RATIONALE:
This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on 300 articles
a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult for readers to
find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies for land and
air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the radio
frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.
In addition, the commonality of users is by form of rc, in other words,
that which is control (such as cars, planes, etc.), NOT in the method of
controlling (i.e. radio controlled).
CHARTERS:
BACKGROUND: This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on
300 articles a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult
for readers to find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies
for land and air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the
radio frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.
rec.models.rc.land -
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.air -
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.water -
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for individual
sale.
rec.models.rc.misc -
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, (which I have been told is
mandatory under the current rules), whose charter will remain as it is,
with the exception that postings more relevant to subgroups should now be
posted there, rather than to the main group.
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.
Then MAIL the ballot to: griz@ee.tulane.edu
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rec.models.rc Reorg Ballot <RMR-0002> (Don't remove this marker)
Give your real name here:
[Your Vote] Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ ] rec.models.rc.air
[ ] rec.models.rc.land
[ ] rec.models.rc.water
[ ] rec.models.rc.misc
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Misti Jordan || Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
griz@ee.tulane.edu || found at: http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From griz@ee.tulane.edu Wed Aug 16 20:34:31 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: griz@ee.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: RESULT: rec.models.rc reorganization passes
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 17 Aug 1995 00:26:47 -0000
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RESULT
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air passes 282:54
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land passes 256:60
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water passes 251:63
unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc passes 260:76
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
282 54 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.models.rc.air
256 60 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.models.rc.land
251 63 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.models.rc.water
260 76 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.models.rc.misc (renames rec.models.rc)
3 invalid votes
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 4 August 1995.
Newsgroups line:
rec.models.rc.land RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc RC controlled miscellaneous items.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Misti Jordan <griz@ee.tulane.edu>. For questions
about the proposed group, contact Lee Raesly <lee@pro-novapple.clark.net>.
CHARTER: rec.models.rc.land
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for
individual sale.
CHARTER: rec.models.rc.air
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for
individual sale.
CHARTER: rec.models.rc.water
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for
individual sale.
CHARTER: rec.models.rc.misc
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, whose charter will
remain as it is, with the exception that postings more relevant to
subgroups should now be posted there, rather than to the main group.
Rec.models.rc Reorg Final Vote Ack
rec.models.rc.misc ------+
rec.models.rc.water -----+|
rec.models.rc.land ----+||
rec.models.rc.air ---+|||
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164lak@egoli.min.wits.ac.za KEREN LABUSCHAGNE YYYY
74710.3115@compuserve.com Herm Perez YYYY
ab727@seorf.ohiou.edu Randall Preston YYYY
abs4@unix.york.ac.uk Andrew Smith YYYY
adair@scr.siemens.com Jonathan Adair YYYY
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alesj@razor.fer.uni-lj.si Ales Jaklic YYYY
ali@connectnet.com Ali Tajeldin YYYY
allan@nas.nasa.gov Brian G. Allan YYYN
andyl@harlequin.com Andy Latto YYYN
antonov@progress.win-uk.net RICHARD CRAPP YYYY
areitsma@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca Art Reitsma YYYY
arichard@ozemail.com.au Adrian Richardson YYYY
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