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From baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu Thu Mar 28 14:13:24 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Cliff Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.birds,rec.pets.birds,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.misc,rec.gambling.sports,rec.gambling.misc
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                 unmoderated group rec.sport.pigeons

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the creation of a new
internet-wide unmoderated usenet newsgroup, rec.sport.pigeons
Follow-ups are directed to news.groups - please honor.

It is being issued according to the accepted guidelines for newsgroup
creation.  Its language is based on previous RFDs.

Newsgroups line:
rec.sport.pigeons	Discussions of raising and Racing Pigeon issues.

RATIONALE: rec.sport.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.sport.pigeons" is proposed to provide a forum for
discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with raising,
training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently there
are no newsgroups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of internet users involved in
this sport/hobby.  As those involved with raising racing pigeons well
know, it is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As my
homepage will provide you with numberous frequently visited links
concerning pigeons.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know
more about these "thoroughbred Race Horses of the Sky!"

Possible discussion issues include:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon
strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

CHARTER: rec.sport.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for the
discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport.

To assist fanciers in the aquisition of information on Pigeons as well
as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race and
Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.sport.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

The complete official messages - RFD, CFV and vote results -
will be posted to these newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.birds, rec.pets.birds,
rec.animals.wildlife, rec.misc, rec.gambling.sports,
rec.gambling.misc

-- 

Clifford Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
<http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~baynon>

From jan@bagend.atl.ga.us Wed May 15 18:45:39 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.gambling.misc,rec.gambling.sports,rec.misc,rec.pets.birds
Subject: CFV: rec.sport.pigeons
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group rec.sport.pigeons

Newsgroups line:
rec.sport.pigeons	Racing pigeon and fancy pigeon info exchange.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>

RATIONALE: rec.sport.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.sport.pigeons" is proposed to provide a forum for
discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with raising,
training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently there
are no newsgroups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of Internet users involved in
this sport.  As those involved with raising racing pigeons well know,
it is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As my homepage
will provide you with numberous frequently visited links concerning
pigeons.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know
more about these "thoroughbred Race Horses of the Sky!"

Possible discussion issues include, but are not limited to:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon
  strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

CHARTER: rec.sport.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for
the discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as
well as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race
and Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.sport.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

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From jan@bagend.atl.ga.us Mon May 27 23:04:06 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.gambling.misc,rec.gambling.sports,rec.misc,rec.pets.birds
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.sport.pigeons
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group rec.sport.pigeons

Newsgroups line:
rec.sport.pigeons	Racing pigeon and fancy pigeon info exchange.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>

RATIONALE: rec.sport.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.sport.pigeons" is proposed to provide a forum for
discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with raising,
training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently there
are no newsgroups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of Internet users involved in
this sport.  As those involved with raising racing pigeons well know,
it is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As my homepage
will provide you with numberous frequently visited links concerning
pigeons.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know
more about these "thoroughbred Race Horses of the Sky!"

Possible discussion issues include, but are not limited to:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon
  strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

CHARTER: rec.sport.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for
the discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as
well as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race
and Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.sport.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE:

You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:

     usenet-votes@mathcs.emory.edu

Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
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mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
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From jan@bagend.atl.ga.us Sun Jun 16 12:34:10 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.gambling.misc,rec.gambling.sports,rec.misc,rec.pets.birds
Subject: RESULT: rec.sport.pigeons fails 98:37
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                                RESULT
           unmoderated group rec.sport.pigeons fails 98:37

rec.sport.pigeons results - 135 valid votes

 Yes  No  | 2/3 >100 | Pass | Group
---- ---- | --- ---- | ---- | -------------------------------------------
  98   37 | Yes   No |   No | rec.sport.pigeons
  12 invalid votes

A five day discussion period follows this announcement.  Unless
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group
may not be voted on again for six months.

Newsgroups line:
rec.sport.pigeons	Racing pigeon and fancy pigeon info exchange.

Votes closed on 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Jun 1996.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>

RATIONALE: rec.sport.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.sport.pigeons" is proposed to provide a forum for
discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with raising,
training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently there
are no newsgroups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of Internet users involved in
this sport.  As those involved with raising racing pigeons well know,
it is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As my homepage
will provide you with numberous frequently visited links concerning
pigeons.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know
more about these "thoroughbred Race Horses of the Sky!"

Possible discussion issues include, but are not limited to:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon
  strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

CHARTER: rec.sport.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for
the discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as
well as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race
and Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.sport.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

rec.sport.pigeons Final Voter list

Voted YES
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spud@ne.com.au                                                  Michael Spadoni
JArena@gero.agric.wa.gov.au                                          John Arena
Willy.Arts@rug.ac.be                                                 Willy Arts
Freddy.Thienpont@cevi.be                                       Freddy Thienpont
brochef@glo.be                                                     Filip Broche
peter.vervoort@infoboard.be                                      Peter Vervoort
petervan@innet.be                                           Peter Vansteenkiste
ax436@freenet.carleton.ca                                          Tareef Attar
thlam@sfu.ca                                                            Frankie
dwilkie@cortex.psych.ubc.ca                                          Don Wilkie
plyco@ainet.com                                                       Pat Young
BillcH1701@aol.com                                              William C. Hull
Buck199@aol.com                                                      Buck Doyle
Carasal@aol.com                                                     Sal Pirillo
Davy3227@aol.com                                                   David Hutson
edmundhh@aol.com                                               Edmund Henderson
Gundyco@aol.com                                                  Gary Gunderson
MDMoceri@aol.com                                                    Matt Moceri
Oxyura@aol.com                                                     William Lund
PBenson996@aol.com                                                  Paul Benson
Petrostone@aol.com                                             Casey Winningham
SQUIRT16OZ@aol.com                                                  Tom Erskine
SRTERRY@aol.com                                                     Steve Terry
Eric.Brown@baps.com                                                  Eric Brown
krystek@alcor.bms.com                                              Stan krystek
101333.3067@CompuServe.COM                                          Jos Konings
102140.3026@CompuServe.COM                                        Helen Bresler
radner@tngstar.cray.com                                        Lauren B. Radner
toledo@ctron.com                                                   Gerry Toledo
Jim.Ancona@dbsoftware.com                                            Jim Ancona
lcs@zk3.dec.com                                                     Larry Smith
DBaynon@gnn.com                                                     Dean Baynon
n4zo@gnn.com                                                          DM McNeal
pigeons@gnn.com                                                    Gary Verburg
pigeon@houstonhub.com                                                 Bencal.mg
paxil@interlog.com                                               Trevor Tymchuk
boonpat@tribeca.ios.com                                          boonpat vattan
almont@lanminds.com                                             A. V. Pawlowski
geoffh@microrim.com                                               Geoff Hirschi
drushing@mindspring.com                                           Darin Rushing
aolsz@ritz.mordor.com                                         Anthony Olszewski
wcgun@ix.netcom.com                                           William C. Gunkel
catseye@netcom.com                                               Mark Kupferman
hitec@NetXpress.com                                            Walter C Schocke
kim@shell.portal.com                                               Kim DeVaughn
plb@ssd.ray.com                                                     Bongiovanni
judyd@rmii.com                                                           judith
bluebar@winthrop.slic.com                                       Arthur Giltinan
rjboney@texoma.com                                                 Rodney Boney
bjorn@sun.tir.com                                                  Keith Skunda
jmartino@voicenet.com                                               Joe Martino
wpflem@zianet.com                                                    WP Fleming
Hans@steinzen.ping.de                                             Hans Steinzen
b-borre@inet.uni-c.dk                                           Bjarne Borresen
baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu                                            Cliff Baynon
cls48@columbia.edu                                    Christopher Lodge Stamper
fischere@hal.hahnemann.edu                                         Eric Fischer
pholland@iastate.edu                                             Paul Hollander
20676JRS@MSU.EDU                                                     John Stone
csullivan@umassd.edu                                         Catherine Sullivan
Jill.Minehart@uni.edu                                             Jill Minehart
rgriffin@unm.edu                                                 Rex L. Griffin
wimbush@urvax.urich.edu                                            John Wimbush
jsewall@liberty.uc.wlu.edu                                      Jacob O. Sewall
info0222@atila.dcs.eup.uva.es                Gustavo Vazquez de Prada de Miguel
archer@hsc.fr                                                    Vincent Archer
ppache@smtp1.wstf.nasa.gov                                       Peter H. Pache
VERBUJM@dshs.wa.gov                                                John Verburg
dacol@i7140oo.nrl.navy.mil                                         Dalcio Dacol
bandre@accent.net                                                 Andre Bencini
cetaflyr@arn.net                                                 Terri Bressler
handpat@binc.net                                               Patrick Handrick
eatwood@bright.net                                                  Earl Atwood
cliffgi@cheney.net                                               Cliff Giltinan
ddunwood@ares.csd.net                                            Dave Dunwoodie
robadams@flash.net                                                    Bob Adams
lsantor@ibm.net                                                   Louis Santoro
rmh@interlaced.net                                              Richard Hoskins
jlevy@iquest.net                                                      Jack Levy
kmm@mi.net                                                     Susan Flewelling
rknowlto@serv01.net-link.net                                      Rick Knowlton
blunty@netam.net                                                    Brian Lunty
wvrp@netusa1.net                                                    Don Edmonds
birchall@email.njin.net                                                    Shag
verkooye@pi.net                                           Hans-Peter Verkooijen
mcorreos@procom.procom.net                                     Michael Correoso
vavra@slip.net                                                       Tony Vavra
wpazmino@telconet.net                                            Walter Pazmino
tkirby19@top.net                                                      Tom Kirby
darndt19@idt.vivid.net                                          Donald C. Arndt
verkooy@euronet.nl                                             Harry Verkooijen
mchief@hal-pc.org                                                   Bill Morrow
joe@ink.org                                                      Joseph Nemelka
AZUSCHLAG@worldbank.org                                           Alan Zuschlag
bengtl@maths.lth.se                                               Bengt Larsson
rdeisher@ivy.tec.in.us                                              Ron Deisher
Richard.Glassford@m.k12.ut.us                                 Richard Glassford

Voted NO
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stainles@bga.com                                                   Dwight Brown
booda@datasync.com                                              Martin H. Booda
vosti@electriciti.com                                               victor osti
marquez@emrl.com                                                  Aaron Marquez
randymx@SSD.intel.com                                              Randy Miller
daly@ppd.Kodak.COM                                                 Matthew Daly
olav@viking.mv.com                                              Olav Nieuwejaar
claire@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM                                              Claire
draziw@netcom.com                                                          Ryan
weikert@netzone.com                                               Brian Weikert
rossix!davidmo@openlink.one-o.com                                   David Moore
dc@panix.com                                                  Minister of Truth
skyblew@primenet.com                                                  Cari Gehl
schnarlz@voicenet.com                                            Matt Schnierle
mb@agar.oche.de                                                  Marcus Breiing
sledge@hammer.oche.de                                         Thomas Bueschgens
tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu                              Todd C. Lawson
lorrie@mellers1.psych.berkeley.edu                                  Lorrie Wood
ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu                                             Michael Loomis
mkc@graphics.cornell.edu                                     Mitch Collinsworth
buglady@bronze.lcs.mit.edu                                      Aliza R. Panitz
patl@catfish.lcs.mit.edu                                    Patrick J. LoPresti
khan@cs.nyu.edu                                                    Hasnain Khan
jggoslin@Oakland.edu                                                Jeff Goslin
lcasto@cis.ohio-state.edu                                         Lawanna Casto
cbstone@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                              Christopher B. Stone
hensonml@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU                                           Mickey Henson
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                              Richard H. Miller
bholzm1@icarus.cc.uic.edu                                        Burt N Holzman
gwb@n3gb.umd.edu                                                   George Baltz
mdearbor@csugrad.cs.vt.edu                                          Jamie Smidt
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                          Risto Widenius
Ollivier.Robert@hsc.fr                                          Ollivier Robert
joeclark@hookup.net                                                   Joe Clark
bresnab@tiac.net                                                Brian Bresnahan
csaamw@urc.tue.nl                                                Michiel Wijers
alan@mattress.atww.org                                            Alan Reichert

Invalid ballots
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CORMC198@aol.com
    ! No name given
JColb4236@aol.com
    ! No name given
LSimon1230@aol.com
    ! No name given
jackip@nt.com
    ! No name given
kacz@buffnet.net
    ! No name given
kmb19@indy.net                                                      c:\\kmbmail
    ! No name given
RMechling@aol.com
    ! No vote statement in message
Thehawkmom@aol.com
    ! No vote statement in message
doboney@texoma.com                                                Douglas Boney
    ! No vote statement in message
pdboney@texoma.com                                               Patricia Boney
    ! No vote statement in message
scboney@texoma.com                                                  Sarah Boney
    ! No vote statement in message
pigeon@easynet.co.uk                                            Dr. John Carnie
    ! No vote statement in message

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From baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu Thu Dec  5 21:58:24 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Cliff Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.misc,rec.pets,rec.pets.birds
Subject: RFD: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 6 Dec 1996 02:58:22 -0000
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               unmoderated group rec.pets.birds.pigeons

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the creation of a new
internet-wide unmoderated usenet newsgroup, rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Follow-ups are directed to news.groups - please honor.

It is being issued according to the accepted guidelines for newsgroup
creation.  Its language is based on previous RFDs.

Newsgroups line:
rec.pets.birds.pigeons	Discussions of Pigeon issues.

RATIONALE: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.pets.birds.pigeons" is proposed to provide a
forum for discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with
raising, training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently
there are no news groups where one can find these topics being
discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of internet users involved in this
sport/hobby.  As those involved with raising pigeons well know, it
is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As our rapidly
growing PIGEONS-LIST mailing list with over 220 subscribers, one can see
the popularity.
Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know more
about these "thoroughbred race horses of the sky!"

Possible discussion issues include:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon
  strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc.).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

- Diseases related to pigeons and maintaining pigeon health.

CHARTER: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for the
discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport as well as the many Show
breeds of pigeons.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as well
as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race and
Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.pets.birds.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

The group will be unmoderated at this time.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

The complete official messages - RFD, CFV and vote results -
will be posted to these newsgroups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.animals.wildlife, rec.birds,
rec.misc, rec.pets, rec.pets.birds

and the following mailing list:

  pigeons-list@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu (Pigeons Mailing List)
          Subcribe via: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
-
Proponent: Clifford Baynon <baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>

From jjd@primenet.com Thu Jan 30 21:31:17 1997
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.misc,rec.pets,rec.pets.birds
Subject: CFV: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <854677108.11439@uunet.uu.net>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net
Expires: 22 Feb 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:18:28 GMT
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9541 news.groups:248414 rec.animals.wildlife:24008 rec.birds:52849 rec.misc:8407 rec.pets:69790 rec.pets.birds:82977

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group rec.pets.birds.pigeons

Newsgroup line:
rec.pets.birds.pigeons	Racing Pigeons, Show Pigeons, and related material.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <Baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.pets.birds.pigeons" is proposed to provide a
forum for discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with
raising, training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently
there are no news groups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of internet users involved in this
sport/hobby.  As those involved with raising pigeons well know, it
is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As our rapidly
growing PIGEONS-LIST mailing list with over 220 subscribers, one can see
the popularity.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know more
about these "thoroughbred race horses of the sky!"

Possible discussion issues include:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc.).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

- Diseases related to pigeons and maintaining pigeon health.

CHARTER: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for the
discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport as well as the many Show
breeds of pigeons.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as well
as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race and
Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.pets.birds.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE:

Send email to:  jjd@primenet.com

Your email message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

        I vote YES rec.pets.birds.pigeons
        I vote NO on rec.pets.birds.pigeons

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL.  ABSTAIN does not affect the
final vote count in any way but is listed in the final voting results.
CANCEL removes any earlier vote and is not listed in the final voting
results.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One account per person and one
vote per person.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the
votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this
includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated: If you don't follow these directions then
your vote may not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within several days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure that your
vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor
of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
people who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested people defeats this purpose.  Please do not redistribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV will result in those votes being cancelled.  When
in doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION:

This CFV has been crossposted to
        rec.animals.wildlife
        rec.birds
        rec.misc
        rec.pets
        rec.pets.birds

From jjd@primenet.com Mon Feb 10 20:57:44 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Reply-To: jjd@primenet.com
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.misc,rec.pets,rec.pets.birds
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <855636754.482@isc.org>
References: <854677108.11439@uunet.uu.net>
Supersedes: <854677108.11439@uunet.uu.net>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 22 Feb 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:52:35 GMT
Lines: 113
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:47

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group rec.pets.birds.pigeons

Newsgroup line:
rec.pets.birds.pigeons	Racing Pigeons, Show Pigeons, and related material.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <Baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.pets.birds.pigeons" is proposed to provide a
forum for discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with
raising, training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently
there are no news groups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of internet users involved in this
sport/hobby.  As those involved with raising pigeons well know, it
is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As our rapidly
growing PIGEONS-LIST mailing list with over 220 subscribers, one can see
the popularity.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know more
about these "thoroughbred race horses of the sky!"

Possible discussion issues include:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc.).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

- Diseases related to pigeons and maintaining pigeon health.

CHARTER: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for the
discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport as well as the many Show
breeds of pigeons.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as well
as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race and
Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.pets.birds.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE:

Send email to:  jjd@primenet.com

Your email message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

        I vote YES rec.pets.birds.pigeons
        I vote NO on rec.pets.birds.pigeons

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL.  ABSTAIN does not affect the
final vote count in any way but is listed in the final voting results.
CANCEL removes any earlier vote and is not listed in the final voting
results.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One account per person and one
vote per person.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the
votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this
includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated: If you don't follow these directions then
your vote may not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within several days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure that your
vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor
of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
people who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested people defeats this purpose.  Please do not redistribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV will result in those votes being cancelled.  When
in doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION:

This CFV has been crossposted to
        rec.animals.wildlife
        rec.birds
        rec.misc
        rec.pets
        rec.pets.birds


rec.pets.birds.pigeons Bounce List - No need to revote
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BKobes2690@aol.com
Parco.Sales@primenet.com

From jjd@primenet.com Tue Feb 18 20:28:03 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Reply-To: jjd@primenet.com
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.misc,rec.pets,rec.pets.birds
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <856326132.427@isc.org>
References: <854677108.11439@uunet.uu.net>
Supersedes: <854677108.11439@uunet.uu.net>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Expires: 22 Feb 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:22:12 GMT
Lines: 113
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:57

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group rec.pets.birds.pigeons

Newsgroup line:
rec.pets.birds.pigeons	Racing Pigeons, Show Pigeons, and related material.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <Baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.pets.birds.pigeons" is proposed to provide a
forum for discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with
raising, training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently
there are no news groups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of internet users involved in this
sport/hobby.  As those involved with raising pigeons well know, it
is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As our rapidly
growing PIGEONS-LIST mailing list with over 220 subscribers, one can see
the popularity.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know more
about these "thoroughbred race horses of the sky!"

Possible discussion issues include:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc.).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

- Diseases related to pigeons and maintaining pigeon health.

CHARTER: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for the
discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport as well as the many Show
breeds of pigeons.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as well
as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race and
Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.pets.birds.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE:

Send email to:  jjd@primenet.com

Your email message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

        I vote YES rec.pets.birds.pigeons
        I vote NO on rec.pets.birds.pigeons

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL.  ABSTAIN does not affect the
final vote count in any way but is listed in the final voting results.
CANCEL removes any earlier vote and is not listed in the final voting
results.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One account per person and one
vote per person.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the
votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this
includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated: If you don't follow these directions then
your vote may not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within several days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure that your
vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor
of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
people who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested people defeats this purpose.  Please do not redistribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV will result in those votes being cancelled.  When
in doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION:

This CFV has been crossposted to
        rec.animals.wildlife
        rec.birds
        rec.misc
        rec.pets
        rec.pets.birds


rec.pets.birds.pigeons Bounce List - No need to revote
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BKobes2690@aol.com
Parco.Sales@primenet.com

From jjd@primenet.com Fri Feb 21 17:43:13 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.animals.wildlife,rec.birds,rec.misc,rec.pets,rec.pets.birds
Subject: RESULT: rec.pets.birds.pigeons passes 308:28
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <856575572.19032@isc.org>
References: <855636754.482@isc.org> <854677108.11439@uunet.uu.net>
Supersedes: <855636754.482@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: rec.pets.birds.pigeons
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 01:39:33 GMT
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Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:87

                                RESULT
        unmoderated group rec.pets.birds.pigeons passes 308:28

There were 308 YES votes and 28 NO votes, for a total of 336 valid votes.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroup line:
rec.pets.birds.pigeons	Racing Pigeons, Show Pigeons, and related material.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Clifford Baynon <Baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

The newsgroup "rec.pets.birds.pigeons" is proposed to provide a
forum for discussion by the thousands of people worldwide involved with
raising, training and racing both fancy and homing pigeons.  Currently
there are no news groups where one can find these topics being discussed,
however there are increasing numbers of internet users involved in this
sport/hobby.  As those involved with raising pigeons well know, it
is often a consuming passion which envelopes you.  As our rapidly
growing PIGEONS-LIST mailing list with over 220 subscribers, one can see
the popularity.

Racing pigeons are a far cry from the "rat" pigeons you see on the
streets.  I honestly feel most anyone would be enlightened to know more
about these "thoroughbred race horses of the sky!"

Possible discussion issues include:

- Training and selective breeding techniques for pedigree pigeon strains.

- Announcements of race dates, tournaments, winners, etc.

- Questions and Answers.

- Discussions regarding the many Publications (Racing Pigeon Bulletin,
  Racing Pigeon Digest, etc.).

- Buying and selling information on Pigeons (Which often sell for in
  the hundreds or even thousands of dollars per bird!)

- Diseases related to pigeons and maintaining pigeon health.

CHARTER: rec.pets.birds.pigeons

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for the
discussion of the Racing Homing Pigeon sport as well as the many Show
breeds of pigeons.

To assist fanciers in the acquisition of information on Pigeons as well
as an informative arena for the many different world wide Race and
Auction events held.

The general "nettiquete" FAQs posted in news.announce.newusers and
news.answers apply to rec.pets.birds.pigeons.

END CHARTER.

rec.pets.birds.pigeons Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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106362.2242@compuserve.com                                          Nigel Lane
acornella@mail.att.net                                     Alessandro Cornella
adewey@pepper.advance.com                                           Alan Dewey
alexe@eastky.com                                                          Suzu
almont@pop.mindspring.com                                         Al Pawlowski
amiedick@mail.bright.net                                              amiedick
AmosRobins@aol.com
andyg@hooked.net                                                          Andy
APrinceInc@aol.com
armandg@infosel.net.mx                                    Armando M. Garcia M.
arnold@mozcom.com                                             Arnold G. Castro
aweimann@indlovu.bortech.ac.za                                   ALAN  WEIMANN
azuschlag@worldbank.org                                          Alan Zuschlag
b-borre@inet.uni-c.dk                                          Bjarne Borresen
barbers@ix.netcom.com                                             Perry Barber
basgoss@iafrica.com                                              basil gossman
Baynon@acsu.buffalo.edu                                                 Baynon
BBabus@aol.com
bbonwell@dtc.net                                                  Bill Bonwell
BdBoyBdBoy@aol.com
BDPT85B@prodigy.com                                           MR WAYNE O BEALL
belgoware@belgonet.be                                          Goethals Franky
bfwood@juno.com                                              BRENTON F WOODARD
BGKU15A@prodigy.com                                        MR ROBERT W MCKENNA
BigBirdFan@aol.com
billiec@seark.net                                                  billie cook
BIRDMAN@Prodigy.net                                                  Pat Burns
birdytoo@polaristel.net                                           Bob Capitola
BJDarby@aol.com
bjorn@tir.com                                                            bjorn
BKobes2690@aol.com
Blandp1@aol.com
bluebars@cris.com                                                  Larry Davis
BlueCheck@aol.com
BlueGrizz@aol.com
blunty@tcsx.net                                                 Brian J. Lunty
bob@georgian.net                                                    Bob Pommer
bonny@mail.telepac.pt                      Augusto  Manuel  Pereira  De  Sousa
borek@mda.ca                         Death before Dishonour; Beer before Lunch
Brian@OrCAD.com                                               Brian McLaughlin
brochef@glo.be                                                    Broche Filip
BSMACFIN@aol.com
BTauscher@aol.com
Buck199@aol.com
buffalo@paclink.com                                              Dan McPherson
BYKQ16B@prodigy.com                                          MR BILLY G TAYLOR
ca5sgu@isis.sunderland.ac.uk                           Stephen.Dominic.Guthrie
Carasal@aol.com
cbstone@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                             Christopher B. Stone
cclo@njebmail..njeb.att.com                                         Lo, Charles
cefa_blc@tornado.be                                  Charles du Bois d'Enghien
cetaflyr@arn.net
cfynn@sahaja.demon.co.uk                                      Christopher Fynn
Chgo1loft@aol.com
ChrisO@BHSSF.ORG                                             Christian Otrakji
clifton.henry@msfc.nasa.gov                                     Henry, Clifton
CLKRIENKE@aol.com
cnemelka@state-info.net                                        Christy Nemelka
codd@icon.co.za                                                    RUSSEL CODD
Comanco@aol.com
CRATEBRKER@aol.com
cully@rbm.com.au                                       Phil And Cameron Cullen
D9O1C1@aol.com
dacol@i7140oo.nrl.navy.mil                                        Dalcio Dacol
DahHawkes@aol.com
DANASDAD@aol.com
dancook@flash.net                                                     Dan Cook
DARCCHECK@aol.com
darndt19@idt.vivid.net                                         Donald C. Arndt
daveryan@broadcast.net                                               Dave Ryan
dbomben@value.net                                               Donelle Bomben
debodani@keyworld.net                                          Emmanuel DeBono
Debvbbf@aol.com
devo@net.bluemoon.net                                       David J. DiValerio
DInCHARLES@aol.com
DJExner@aol.com
DJHutson@aol.com
dobson@cnwl.igs.net                                                Ross Dobson
Doug.Newton@msfc.nasa.gov                                         Newton, Doug
drwarez@toolcity.net                                             The Good Doc.
dschroeder@earthlink.net                                        Dick Schroeder
DT2904@aol.com
Duiven@aol.com
Eddiekowal@aol.com
edillon@sierra.net                                                   Ed Dillon
EdmundHH@aol.com
eglasmann@oln.com                                                  Ed Glasmann
eiden@juno.com                                                    Mark T Eiden
ekrisler@epix.net                                                   Ed Krisler
eleuth@pacbell.net                                      T. J. Garron Wilkinson
ERIC@cgull.baps.com                                                 Eric Brown
ewdavenport@ibm.net                                          Eric W. Davenport
FDMH23A@prodigy.com                                           DR LYNN B BARLOW
FDopler@aol.com
FeathersD@aol.com
Fieldtec1@aol.com
fischere@allegheny.edu                                            Eric Fischer
fishbone@lancnews.infi.net                                         bill warner
franklin@primeline.net                                Tom & Christine Franklin
Freddy.Thienpont@cevi.be                                      Freddy Thienpont
Gazzi10@aol.com
Gekneede@aol.com
Geo0864@aol.com
geob@bio.usyd.edu.au                                            George Barrett
GJAllen560@aol.com
GLUTFEY@aol.com
GNGZ49A@prodigy.com                                     MRS DOLLY A MCELDOWNEY
gonzo@jeffnet.org                                                        Gonzo
Graham@pottergd.demon.co.uk                                   Graham D. Potter
GTGilbert@aol.com
Gundyco@aol.com
Gunner63@concentric.net                                            Bill Skriba
handpat@binc.net                                              Patrick Handrick
Hans@steinzen..ping.de                                            Hans Steinzen
harpster@ix.netcom.com                                             Mike Harper
Hawkmom@ix.netcom.com                  Karen Irene Tolson Carroll (Thehawkmom)
hitec@netxpress.com
hugo@wrc.ccwr.ac.za                                                Hugo Maaren
H_Huisman@amersfoort.nl                                         Heimen Huisman
ICHERKO@oppd.gov                                              ICHERKO@OPPD.GOV
ImageNEye@aol.com
j&pb@mailhost1.wppi.com
JAMES4BIRD@aol.com
jarena@ois.com.au                                                   John Arena
jarmstro@acesag.auburn.edu                                  James B. Armstrong
jazzara@suffolk.lib.ny.us                                  [N2GYN] JOHN AZZARA
jcapuano@has.ci.houston.tx.us                                   Joseph Capuano
JeffHe@starwave.com                                                  Jeff Herr
jeffs@thenet.net                                                         JeffS
JerrMil@aol.com
jes@mtatm.ho.lucent.com                                               Jesse Wu
JffClark@aol.com
jgooding@praxis.net                                              Jimmy Gooding
JGreelis@aol.com
JHARRIS1@MAIL.STATE.WI.US
jhemphil@tso.cin.ix.net                                         Jerry Hemphill
jhigbee@nyx.net                                                Jonathan Higbee
jholder@digital.net                                                 Jay Holder
Jim_Petersen@qmail.aea9.k12.ia.us
jip@joule.elee.calpoly.edu                                          Jack O. Ip
jjumpers@shenessex.heartland.net                                  Lisa Johnson
jkjeld@seattle-pi.com                                             Jim Kjeldsen
jklimm@capecod.net                                               John C. Klimm
JLHARY@aol.com
jmartino@voicenet.com                                              Joe Martino
jmcgarry@uoguelph.ca
jnetolic@westrail.wa.gov.au                                   Joseph Netolicky
joe8387@epix.net                                              Joseph Dvornicky
joe@state-info.net                                              Joseph Nemelka
JPRacers@aol.com
jpsvincent@juno.com                                           James L. Vincent
jr.prince@sk.sympatico.ca                                          J.R. Prince
jreiner@www.plantnet.com                                 Julie and John Reiner
jtoney@midusa.net                                              Jimmie G. Toney
jtowes@eagle.ca                                                      Jim Towes
jude@hhs.net                                                   McKee Household
julesd@fwb.gulf.net                                               Jules Dubois
jwise@spc.cc.tx.us                                                    Joe Wise
K9SAVER@aol.com
keystne@primenet.com                                               Troy Hadley
kimdv@netcom.com                                                  Kim DeVaughn
kmb@trader.com                                                   KENNETH BUCCI
kmckinla@ochin.on.ca                                        Kenneth I McKinlay
kobnur@istar.ca                                                      Ben Kobes
Krallkritt@aol.com
krystek@alcor.bms.com                                          Stanley Krystek
LALONG@aol.com
lcs@zk3.dec.com                                                    Larry Smith
lday@iquest.net
lgardne1@bjhs.cjusd.k12.ca.us                                    Layne Gardner
lmuller@netins.net                                                Larry Muller
lrueber@ucinet.com                                                Larry Rueber
ltf@gene.COM                                                     Linda Ferzoco
lturley@net1.nw.com.au                                              Leo Turley
m.sibley@auckland.ac.nz                                                   Mick
Marilyn_Matte@crc.doc.ca                                         Marilyn Matte
matoska@primenet.com                                                   matoska
mceeras@akula..com                                                  Enemy Mindz
mdmoceri@shore.net                                                 Matt Moceri
mfirkus@coredcs.com                                                Mary Firkus
MGlaab@aol.com
miner@neca.com                                                       Jim Miner
mjones@morpheme.cs.colorado.edu                                  Michael Jones
mmarks8208@aol.com                                                  MMarks8208
mnlofts@leblink.com                                             Nora L. Hatton
monkeyfist@delphi.com                                         william m. lynch
moor@ecn.nl                                                          Rein Moor
motisko@epix.net                                                 Brian Motisko
mposmann@bconnex.net
Muleskinr1@aol.com
MvStaden@csir.co.za                                          Martin van Staden
MXARIEL@aol.com
myers@stn1.mailstation.net                                        Robert Myers
n8lmt@greatlakes.net                                               Ron Sibbitt
natbunny@juno.com                                            NATALIE M VINCENT
naw@wg.icl.co.uk                                            Nigel Wolstencroft
ninjack@geocities.com                                                  Ninjack
nm8x@mnsi.net                                                     James Meyers
nordland@adan.kingston.net                                     The Land Family
NWCT78A@prodigy.com                                          MR GLENN B BARLOW
OCATENAC@ACM.ORG                                              Onorio Catenacci
Onewing@aol.com
Oxyura@aol.com
Parco.Sales@primenet.com
paul.driessens@ping.be                                       FAMILIE DRIESSENS
paulban@epix.net
PAWOOLLET@aol.com
paxil@cancom.net                                                         Paxil
Pbrscat@aol.com
pcampuza@foreigner.class.udg.mx                        LIC. PABLO CAMPUZANO C.
pegasuslft@aol.com                                                  PEGASUSLFT
perrin@healey.com.au                                             George Perrin
pete@feist.com                                                   john peterson
peter_hrycyk@bc.sympatico.ca                                      Peter Hrycyk
pgnman@imsweb.net                                              Arthur Giltinan
pholland@iastate.edu                                          Paul J Hollander
pigeon@easynet.co.uk                                               John Carnie
pigeon@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us                                                  DJ
PigeonEd@aol.com
PigeonM@aol.com
pimentel@ultranet.com                                              J. Pimentel
pjensen@dns1.autonet.net
pkjea@localaccess.com                                            The Ericksons
plb@ssd.ray.com                                                    Bongiovanni
pola@facility.cs.utah.edu                                            greg pola
ppache@SMTP2.wstf.nasa.gov                                        Pache, Peter
PWalsh9841@aol.com
r.j.churray@larc.nasa.gov                                      richard churray
RACINGMAN@aol.com
RainCreek@aol.com
ray.hall@msfc.nasa.gov                                               Hall, Ray
rdeisher@ivy.tec.in.us                                             Ron Deisher
rewitzfamily@theglobal.net                                       REWITZ FAMILY
Rgwright@gnn.com                                               ROBERT G WRIGHT
RhynerM@EMH1.HQISEC.ARMY.MIL                                      Rhyner, Mark
rich@cyberserv.co.za                                       Rautenbach, Richard
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rkeller@theaviary.com                                             Rusty Keller
rknowlto@net-link.net                                            Rick Knowlton
RLudwig468@aol.com
rlunger@eee.org                                               Richard L. Unger
robadams@flash.net                                                   Bob Adams
ronbrod@surfnetinc.com                                        George Broderick
roses@capecod.net                                       Dolores Scaldini Klimm
rpairan@ascenture.net                                               Ron Pairan
RPDMag@aol.com
RPhalen874@aol.com
rprs@kjsgroup.com                                  Racing Pigeon Result System
RSBollin@aol.com
RWGEHR@aol.com
S10707@aol.com
sandy.lazar@pn.nettuno.it
scott@murmur.demon.co.uk                                          Scott Thomas
sesims@hiwaay.net                                                    Stan Sims
sf@gem.co.za                                                Mr HENNIE CROWTHER
Sgtsimmons@aol.com
ShowSeason@aol.com
simhadri@carmel.amd.com                                       Venkata Simhadri
Sired3@aol.com
sirichai.punyamahanond@bakernet.com
sjeiden@juno.com                                                Steven J Eiden
SKRN75A@prodigy.com                                          MRS JUDY A LANTIS
Slaaughter@aol.com
smartads@toolcity.net                                           Smart Ads Inc.
SPhill3960@aol.com
SpiritLoft@aol.com
spliet@globalxs.nl                                                    A.Spliet
spud@ne.com.au                                                 Michael Spadoni
spudson@WHC.NET                                                 Daniel Brannon
spynx@sierra.net                                                    Jack Durst
SQUIRT16OZ@aol.com
SRoss80657@aol.com
srterry@ionet.net                                                  Steve Terry
stamper@stamper.com                                              Chris Stamper
steph@cyberenet.net                                            Stephanie Smith
steve.watson@msfc.nasa.gov                                       Watson, Steve
steve@sequoiagroup.com                                     Sequoia Group, Inc.
stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz                                     Stuart Yeates
suntracker@juno.com                                              GLENN E EIDEN
Swlapin@aol.com
tanner.penny@juno.com                                       Tanner S. Chrisler
Tapply_Family_Loft@msn.com                                        Kevin Tapply
tbarnhar@im3.com                                                  Tom Barnhart
TBurke9206@aol.com
TcatLofts@aol.com
tdonnay@starpoint.net
tekman@ccia.com                                               Raymond O. Lentz
thetrekguy@aol.com                                                  Thetrekguy
TKirby4444@aol.com
tns@dnet.net
toledo@ctron.com                                                Gerardo Toledo
tony@ris.net                                                       Tony Schenk
tpaterson@hort.cri.nz                                          Thomas Paterson
turansky@epix.net
UsefulBoy1@aol.com
VanderL@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au                                  Vanderlinde, Len
vavra@slip.net                                                     Vavra Lofts
vincent@medeserv.com.au                                          Kieran Malone
WalshJ@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au                                        Walsh, John
widela@glo.be                                                    DE LAET Willy
WiseWare1@aol.com
Wiseware2@aol.com
WJMILLER@ORACULO.LCC.UFMG.BR                                          wjmiller
wvrp@netusa1.net                                                   Don Edmonds
yuko@comnet.ca                                                            Yuko
YXWM65E@prodigy.com                                       MISS KRISTEN J BURNS
zed@cjnetworks.com                                                 Ned Fleming
zot@ampersand.com                                                  Mark Atwood

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aahz@netcom.com                                     Mean Green Dancing Machine
afabbro@brokenarrow.us.itd.umich.edu                             Andrew Fabbro
booda@datasync.com                                             Martin H. Booda
david.mayall@ukonline.co.uk                                        Dave Mayall
dc@panix.com                                                 David W. Crawford
gpr96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu                                           G.P. Ryan
haand@nycan.agilityforum.org                                    H. A. Anderson
jeb27@cam.ac.uk                                                James Broughton
jkramer1@swarthmore.edu                                          Joshua Kramer
Joel.Brogniart@mrash.fr                                        Jo\kl Brogniart
jsi@idiom.com                                                    Michael Craft
marquez@pacbell.net                                              Aaron Marquez
mhatz@raven.phs.com                                                  Mike Hatz
mike@xnet.com                                                     Michael Mraz
naddy@mips.pfalz.de                                       Christian Weisgerber
nick@cimio.co.uk                                                 Nick Waterman
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com                                          Nick Ingegneri
olav@viking.mv.com                                             Olav Nieuwejaar
patl@lcs.mit.edu                                           Patrick J. LoPresti
pbashus@acad.ursinus.edu                                        PAUL J. BASHUS
pea1@lehigh.edu                                                 Pearl Anderson
richsong@vcn.bc.ca                                           Richard Songhurst
simon@darkmere.gen.nz                                              Simon Lyall
spoilsport@earthlink.net                                              Sam Ault
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
tlawson@asu.edu                                                 Todd C. Lawson
tom.randulff@nooft.abb.no
verbuntr@worldonline.nl                                           Roel Verbunt
 

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