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From dave@frackit.com Tue Jun 18 17:05:51 1996
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From: dave@frackit.com (Dave Ratcliffe)
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Subject: RFD: rec.pets.cats reorganization
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.pets.cats.info
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health-behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.breeds
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.meowchat
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization
of the rec.pets.cats hierarchy. This is not a Call For Votes (CFV);
you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.
Newsgroups lines:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Kitty stories of all kinds.
rec.pets.cats.breeds Feline breed specific discussion.
rec.pets.cats.health-behav Feline health and behavioural discussion.
rec.pets.cats.info Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.meowchat Kitty conversations.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline discussions.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx of
new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400 postings
daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what information
they are looking for. A topical split is the best way to seperate the
group into manageble bites.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.info
There is much information to be had in the world of cats. Everything
from breed information to tips on dealing with the dreaded "Litter
Odor". All information needs to be drawn together under one umbrella
group where anyone searching can easily find it. Making it moderated
will exclude extraneous noise and keep it an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health-behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard to
the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health problems and
behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group crowded with a myriad
of other postings. This group provides a central location where the
all cat owners can ask those who have "been there, done that" and get
reliable answers.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.breeds
Different breeds of cats have different behavioral characteristics,
different breeding requirements and different medical needs, among
other things. This group is designed to provide a place for breeders
to gather and discuss these topics as well as for prospective owners
to search for the right breed for themselves. It also gives those who
already own specific breeds a place to ask questions of people who are
most knowledgable in that field.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place for
those who are interested in feline rescue of all types (feral, breed,
strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in the general noise
level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled breeding we have seen a
shocking number of cats become homeless and wind up in shelters
awaiting disposal. This group allows people who are involved in rescue
programs to trade ideas, seek help and otherwise save a few more
feline lives. It can also be used as a possible source of a new
pet/companion for those who wish to adopt and save a cat.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under the rest of the proposed sub-groups need
a place to fall. This is the place. Passage of this group will also
mean the deletion of rec.pets.cats as an active newsgroup. Failure
means rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the same function as this
proposed group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.meowchat fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.meowchat
Meowchat is a type of posting created by a human but designed to
appear as if it was actually a cat who wrote it. Some people love
meowchat, some people hate it. There are times when a fair portion of
new postings in rec.pets.cats consists of Meowchat. This provides a
place JUST for meowchat and nothing else.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be allowed
in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject line
restrictions noted in that charter.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone else's
and they are simply dying to share them. This group provides a place
for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and might even bring a tear to
your eye or make you laugh out loud. If there was ever a place for
"cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: remove rec.pets.cats (renamed to rec.pets.cats.misc)
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed specifically
for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats no longer serves
a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy for the proposed new
groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup is recommended.
If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated this proposal is
withdrawn and rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all" group
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.info
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this group
will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found here
as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the "Intro-FAQ"
containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing bi-weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs on any topic are welcomed and will be posted
subject to moderator approval.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
rec.pets.cats.misc (or rec.pets.cats if rec.pets.cats.misc fails to
pass) for all posts.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.info
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health-behav
This unmoderated group is for asking questions regarding health
problems and behavioral traits of cats. An example of incorrect usage:
"My cat Fluffy walks around in a circle 3 times before she lies
down and it's sooooo cute"
An example of correct usage:
"Why does a cat sometimes circle several times before lying
down?"
Acceptable topics include, but are not limited to:
o Problems with a cat clawing furniture
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged
o Cats urinating on clothing, in corners, etc.
o Discussion of FUS, Feline Leukemia and other disorders
o Unexplained aggressive behaviors towards certain people
Cats with health problems should ALWAYS be taken to a qualified
veterinarian immediately. Advice provided in this group should NOT be
accepted in lieu of such qualified care. This group is not meant as a
first-care medical alternative.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions
are encouraged, personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly
discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.breeds
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of various domesticated
cat breeds. Topics include, but are not limited to:
o Characteristics of various breeds
o Discussion of show standards of various breeds
o Advice on finding reputable catteries/breeders
o Good and bad points of different breeds
o Discussions of responsible breeding
Both breeders and those searching for the right breed for themselves
are welcome. Flame wars of any type from any source are unwelcome.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited except for suitable
URL pointers in signatures that adhere to the Usenet 4-line
convention.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue programs
of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include, but are not
limited to:
o General questions and answers on feline rescue
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
o Information on availability of rescued cats for adoption
o Requests on where to find rescued cats for adoption
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and flame-wars
are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.meowchat
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to be
known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they were
actually written by cats). Such postings should have a Subject: line
which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all caps, followed by a
colon) to provide those with kill files a common string to use. This
is the ONLY group where Meowchat postings should appear. There is no
restriction as to the content of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Commercial advertising for items directly related to cats is allowed
but should be short and, if possible, contain a URL or email address
that readers can use to get more information. NO other commercial
postings are allowed.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and flame-wars
are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.meowchat
Some Usenet cat owners have developed what is known as Meowchat. This
unmoderated group is meant as a home for it. Meowchat is a
conversation written by humans but meant to appear as if cats are
speaking. There is no restriction as to the content of Meowchat
postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They can be
stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat you've seen
somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad but should steer
clear of animal cruelty in any form.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will
continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD
for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which
a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.
Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have
questions about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.pets.cats, alt.animals.felines,
rec.pets
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
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Dave Ratcliffe dave@frackit.com
Harrisburg, Pa.
From dave@frackit.com Fri Jul 12 23:52:51 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@frackit.com (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.pets.cats,alt.animals.felines,rec.pets
Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.pets.cats reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 13 Jul 1996 03:52:39 -0000
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.pets.cats.info
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behave
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.breeds
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.converse
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
CHANGES from previous RFD:
Renamed unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health-behav to
rec.pets.cats.health+behave.
Renamed unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.meowchat to
rec.pets.cats.converse.
Changed Newsgroups line for rec.pets.cats.health+behave to read
"Feline health and behaviour"
Rewrote rec.pets.cats.converse charter and rationale.
Modified rec.pets.cats.misc charter and rationale.
Modified rec.pets.cats.anecdotes charter.
Modified Moderation Policies for rec.pets.cats.info
Modified rec.pets.cats.misc charter.
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization
of the rec.pets.cats hierarchy. This is not a Call For Votes (CFV);
you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.
Newsgroups lines:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Kitty stories of all kinds.
rec.pets.cats.breeds Feline breed specific discussion.
rec.pets.cats.converse Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behave Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.info Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline discussions.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx of
new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400 postings
daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what information
they are looking for. A topical split is the best way to seperate the
group into manageble bites.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.info
There is much information to be had in the world of cats. Everything
from breed information to tips on dealing with the dreaded "Litter
Odor". All information needs to be drawn together under one umbrella
group where anyone searching can easily find it. Making it moderated
will exclude extraneous noise and keep it an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behave
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard to
the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health problems and
behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group crowded with a myriad
of other postings. This group provides a central location where the
all cat owners can ask those who have "been there, done that" and get
reliable answers.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.breeds
Different breeds of cats have different behavioral characteristics,
different breeding requirements and different medical needs, among
other things. This group is designed to provide a place for breeders
to gather and discuss these topics as well as for prospective owners
to search for the right breed for themselves. It also gives those who
already own specific breeds a place to ask questions of people who are
most knowledgable in that field.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place for
those who are interested in feline rescue of all types (feral, breed,
strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in the general noise
level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled breeding we have seen a
shocking number of cats become homeless and wind up in shelters
awaiting disposal. This group allows people who are involved in rescue
programs to trade ideas, seek help and otherwise save a few more
feline lives. It can also be used as a possible source of a new
pet/companion for those who wish to adopt and save a cat.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under the rest of the proposed sub-groups need
a place to fall. This is the place. Passage of this group will also
mean the deletion of rec.pets.cats as an active newsgroup. Failure
means rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the same function as this
proposed group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.converse fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.converse fail
meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which is
retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.converse
Meowchat is a type of posting created by a human but designed to
appear as if it was actually a cat who wrote it. Some people love
meowchat, some people hate it. There are times when a fair portion of
new postings in rec.pets.cats consists of Meowchat. This provides a
place for meowchat and associated postings.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be allowed
in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject line
restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc also fails
meowchat would then move to the parent group, rec.pets.cats)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone else's
and they are simply dying to share them. This group provides a place
for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and might even bring a tear to
your eye or make you laugh out loud. If there was ever a place for
"cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: remove rec.pets.cats (renamed to rec.pets.cats.misc)
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed specifically
for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats no longer serves
a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy for the proposed new
groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup is recommended.
If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated this proposal is
withdrawn and rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all" group
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.info
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this group
will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found here
as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the "Intro-FAQ"
containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing bi-weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any topic are
welcomed and will be posted subject to moderator approval.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
rec.pets.cats.misc (or rec.pets.cats if rec.pets.cats.misc fails to
pass) for all posts.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.info
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behave
This unmoderated group is for asking questions regarding health
problems and behavioral traits of cats. An example of incorrect usage:
"My cat Fluffy walks around in a circle 3 times before she lies
down and it's sooooo cute"
An example of correct usage:
"Why does a cat sometimes circle several times before lying
down?"
Acceptable topics include, but are not limited to:
o Problems with a cat clawing furniture
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged
o Cats urinating on clothing, in corners, etc.
o Discussion of FUS, Feline Leukemia and other disorders
o Unexplained aggressive behaviors towards certain people
Cats with health problems should ALWAYS be taken to a qualified
veterinarian immediately. Advice provided in this group should NOT be
accepted in lieu of such qualified care. This group is not meant as a
first-care medical alternative.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions
are encouraged, personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly
discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.breeds
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of various domesticated
cat breeds. Topics include, but are not limited to:
o Characteristics of various breeds
o Discussion of show standards of various breeds
o Advice on finding reputable catteries/breeders
o Good and bad points of different breeds
o Discussions of responsible breeding
Both breeders and those searching for the right breed for themselves
are welcome. Flame wars of any type from any source are unwelcome.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited except for suitable
URL pointers in signatures that adhere to the Usenet 4-line
convention.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue programs
of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include, but are not
limited to:
o General questions and answers on feline rescue
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
o Information on availability of rescued cats for adoption
o Requests on where to find rescued cats for adoption
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and flame-wars
are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.converse
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to be
known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they were
actually written by cats). Such postings should have a Subject: line
which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all caps, followed by a
colon) to provide those with kill files a common string to use. This
is the ONLY group where Meowchat postings should appear. There is no
restriction as to the content of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Commercial advertising is not allowed
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and flame-wars
are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.converse
This unmoderated newsgroup is primarily intended for friendly,
casual, active conversations about cats and for Meowchat, a style
that is meant to appear as if cats are speaking. Casual, active
conversations contain either (1) a number of posts that express
friendly sentiments and are almost identical in substance (e.g.
"happy birthday", "get well soon", "my cat does that too") but are
posted by different people, (2) posts that do not stand alone, but
make sense only in the context of an ongoing thread (e.g. individual
lines of dialogue), or (3) several posts by the same author within a
short period of time. A casual, active conversation will consist
primarily of conversational posts as defined above, but may also
include a small number of messages that would fall under the charter
of one of the other rec.pets.cats groups. Any message that consists
of Meowchat, or is part of a friendly, casual, active conversation
about cats (as long as it does not violate the group's policies
about advertising or binaries, or encourage cruelty to animals) is
appropriate for this group.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They can be
stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat you've seen
somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad but should steer
clear of animal cruelty in any form.
Cross-posting is allowed. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is strongly encouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will
continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD
for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which
a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.
Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have
questions about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.pets.cats, alt.animals.felines,
rec.pets
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
--
Dave Ratcliffe dave@frackit.com
Harrisburg, Pa.
From dave@frackit.com Fri Sep 13 16:48:22 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@frackit.com (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.pets.cats,alt.animals.felines,rec.pets,alt.med.veterinary
Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.pets.cats reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 13 Sep 1996 20:48:15 -0000
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CHANGES from previous RFD:
Added an additional proponent - Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
Added alt.animal.veterinary to distribution
Removed proposal for rec.pets.cats.breeds
Changed proposed name for rec.pets.cats.info [moderated] to
rec.pets.cats.announce [moderated]
Changed proposed name for rec.pets.cats.health+behave to
rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Modified rec.pets.cats.health+behav to better define allowed
subjects.
Modified rec.pets.cats.announce charter to reflect weekly posting
frequency for the Intro FAQ.
Changed proposed name for rec.pets.cats.converse to
rec.pets.cats.community
Modified charter for rec.pets.cats.community to better reflect
allowable topics.
Replaced all occurrances of "discussions" with "topics" in
Newsgroups: lines.
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the
reorganization of the rec.pets.cats hierarchy. This is not a Call
For Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details
are below.
Newsgroups lines:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to seperate the group into manageble bites.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: remove rec.pets.cats (renamed to rec.pets.cats.misc)
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended.
If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated this
proposal is withdrawn and rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all"
group
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health and
behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the prevention
and treatment of health problems and diseases; feline nutrition; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites; normal
and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing unwanted
behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior, and physical
characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a good cat food.
o Feline nutrition in general.
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and organizations,
including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more appropriate
group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions are
encouraged; personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General questions and answers on feline rescue
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
o Information on availability of rescued cats for adoption
o Requests on where to find rescued cats for adoption
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Commercial advertising is not allowed
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising and provocative or hurtful messages
[flames] are forbidden.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
Cross-posting is discouraged. If you must cross-post, however,
care must be taken to ensure that both content and form are
entirely appropriate to all groups posted to, and that
follow-ups are set accordingly.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Cross-posting is allowed. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is strongly encouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period
will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
first RFD for this proposal is posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will
be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you
have questions about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.pets.cats, alt.animals.felines,
rec.pets, alt.med.veterinary
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
--
Dave Ratcliffe dave@frackit.com
Harrisburg, Pa.
From dave@frackit.com Wed Oct 9 19:23:45 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@frackit.com (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.pets.cats,alt.animals.felines,rec.pets,alt.med.veterinary
Subject: 4th RFD: rec.pets.cats reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 9 Oct 1996 23:23:42 -0000
Organization: .
Lines: 413
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net
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Archive-Name: rec.pets.cats-reorg
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CHANGES from previous RFD:
Modified allowable rescue topics in rec.pets.cats.health-behav
charter
Modified allowable rescue topics in rec.pets.cats.rescue charter
Removed "cross-posting allowed" from rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
charter
Inserted clause in all charters forbidding postings advocating
animal cruelty
Added directive against flames to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes charter
Standardized directives regarding cross-posting, flames, and advertising
as much as possible across all relevant groups.
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the
reorganization of the rec.pets.cats hierarchy. This is not a Call
For Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details
are below.
Newsgroups lines:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to separate the group into managable bites.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: remove rec.pets.cats (renamed to rec.pets.cats.misc)
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended.
If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated this
proposal is withdrawn and rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all"
group
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health
and behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the
prevention and treatment of health problems and diseases; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites;
normal and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing
unwanted behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior,
and physical characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a balanced feline diet
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period
will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
first RFD for this proposal is posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will
be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you
have questions about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.pets.cats, alt.animals.felines,
rec.pets, alt.med.veterinary
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
--
Dave Ratcliffe dave@frackit.com
Harrisburg, Pa.
From dave@frackit.com Wed Jan 8 18:19:07 1997
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: dave@frackit.com (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.pets.cats,alt.animals.felines,rec.pets,alt.med.veterinary
Subject: 5th RFD: rec.pets.cats reorganization
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
CHANGES from previous RFD:
No changes. This posting is a formality prior to the CFV due to the
extended elapsed time between the last RFD and now.
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the
reorganization of the rec.pets.cats hierarchy. This is not a Call
For Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details
are below.
Newsgroups lines:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to separate the group into managable bites.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: remove rec.pets.cats (renamed to rec.pets.cats.misc)
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended.
If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated this
proposal is withdrawn and rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all"
group
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health
and behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the
prevention and treatment of health problems and diseases; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites;
normal and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing
unwanted behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior,
and physical characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a balanced feline diet
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged. If you must
cross-post, care must be taken to ensure that both content
and form are entirely appropriate for all groups posted to.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this
phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period
will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
first RFD for this proposal is posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will
be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote
until this happens.
All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to
these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you
have questions about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.pets.cats, alt.animals.felines,
rec.pets, alt.med.veterinary
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
--
Dave Ratcliffe dave@frackit.com
Harrisburg, Pa.
From jpatokal@cc.hut.fi Thu Jan 30 21:31:24 1997
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@cc.hut.fi>
Reply-To: voting@hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.animals.felines,alt.med.veterinary,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: CFV: rec.pets.cats reorganization
Followup-To: poster
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Organization: .
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Expires: 22 Feb 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.pets.cats-reorg
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:18:29 GMT
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
Newsgroups line:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to seperate the group into manageble bites.
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended. If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated
rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all" group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
Administrative contact address: rpc-info@zmall.com
Article submission address: rpc-info@zmall.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising and provocative or hurtful messages
[flames] are forbidden.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
Cross-posting is discouraged. If you must cross-post, however,
care must be taken to ensure that both content and form are
entirely appropriate to all groups posted to, and that
follow-ups are set accordingly.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health
and behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the
prevention and treatment of health problems and diseases; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites;
normal and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing
unwanted behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior,
and physical characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a balanced feline diet
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are not allowed.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more appropriate
group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions are
encouraged; personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising is not allowed
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
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[ ] rec.pets.cats.community
[ ] rec.pets.cats.health+behav
[ ] rec.pets.cats.rescue
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WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
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persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
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this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
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edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
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Voting address: <voting@hut.fi>
From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Mon Feb 10 11:27:50 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Reply-To: voting@hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.animals.felines,alt.med.veterinary,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.pets.cats reorganization
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
Newsgroups line:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to seperate the group into manageble bites.
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended. If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated
rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all" group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
Administrative contact address: rpc-info@zmall.com
Article submission address: rpc-info@zmall.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising and provocative or hurtful messages
[flames] are forbidden.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
Cross-posting is discouraged. If you must cross-post, however,
care must be taken to ensure that both content and form are
entirely appropriate to all groups posted to, and that
follow-ups are set accordingly.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health
and behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the
prevention and treatment of health problems and diseases; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites;
normal and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing
unwanted behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior,
and physical characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a balanced feline diet
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are not allowed.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more appropriate
group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions are
encouraged; personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising is not allowed
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
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[ ] rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
[ ] rec.pets.cats.announce
[ ] rec.pets.cats.community
[ ] rec.pets.cats.health+behav
[ ] rec.pets.cats.rescue
[ ] rec.pets.cats.misc
======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ==============
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One account per person and one vote
per person. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.
Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote
is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of
the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted
to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
--
Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Voting address: <voting@hut.fi>
From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Mon Feb 10 11:27:54 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Reply-To: voting@hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.animals.felines,alt.med.veterinary,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.pets.cats reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Message-ID: <855602168.22790@isc.org>
Supersedes: <854677109.11446@uunet.uu.net>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Expires: 22 Feb 1997 00:00:00 GMT
Archive-Name: rec.pets.cats-reorg
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:16:08 GMT
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
Newsgroups line:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to seperate the group into manageble bites.
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended. If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated
rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all" group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
Administrative contact address: rpc-info@zmall.com
Article submission address: rpc-info@zmall.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising and provocative or hurtful messages
[flames] are forbidden.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
Cross-posting is discouraged. If you must cross-post, however,
care must be taken to ensure that both content and form are
entirely appropriate to all groups posted to, and that
follow-ups are set accordingly.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health
and behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the
prevention and treatment of health problems and diseases; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites;
normal and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing
unwanted behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior,
and physical characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a balanced feline diet
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are not allowed.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more appropriate
group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions are
encouraged; personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising is not allowed
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
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Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Voting address: <voting@hut.fi>
From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Sat Feb 22 02:58:20 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
Reply-To: jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.animals.felines,alt.med.veterinary,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: RESULT: rec.pets.cats reorganization all groups pass
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <856608777.21991@isc.org>
Supersedes: <855602168.22790@isc.org>
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org
Archive-Name: rec.pets.cats-reorg
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:52:58 GMT
Lines: 827
Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:97
RESULT
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.anecdotes passes 275:130
moderated group rec.pets.cats.announce passes 339:81
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.community passes 321:90
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.health+behav passes 354:65
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.rescue passes 325:72
unmoderated group rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats) passes 303:118
rec.pets.cats reorg results - 435 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
275 130 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
339 81 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.pets.cats.announce
321 90 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.pets.cats.community
354 65 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.pets.cats.health+behav
325 72 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.pets.cats.rescue
303 118 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats)
3 invalid votes
Newsgroups line:
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Stories about our cats.
rec.pets.cats.announce Informational postings, FAQ's regarding cats. (Moderated)
rec.pets.cats.community Feline/human conversations and related topics.
rec.pets.cats.health+behav Feline health and behavior.
rec.pets.cats.misc General feline topics.
rec.pets.cats.rescue Discussion of feline rescue organizations and methods.
The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Feb 1997.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the
information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission.
Proponent: Dave Ratcliffe <dave@frackit.com>
Proponent: Erin Miller <ermiller@tezcat.com>
Proponent: Lisa Pavlov <lhpavlov@ix.netcom.com>
Proponent: Mary Lacroix <mlacroix@interlog.com>
Votetaker: Jani Patokallio <jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi>
VOTETAKER'S NOTE:
Given the somewhat controversial status of this proposal I will insert a
preliminary comment. No major irregularities (and only a few minor ones) were
detected during the voting period. Demands of calling a revote will not
be entertained unless hard evidence of significant irregularities is
provided, at the moment I see no reason to suspect that this vote does not
accurately represent the overall view of the rec.pets.cats readership.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group rec.pets.cats has been growing steadily with the influx
of new users to the net. Daily traffic flow now often tops 400
postings daily making it difficult for many to find exactly what
information they are looking for. A topical split is the best way
to seperate the group into manageble bites.
With a proposed reorganization including a group designed
specifically for miscellaneous topics the newsgroup rec.pets.cats
no longer serves a purpose except as an anchor in the hierarchy
for the proposed new groups. Its removal as an active newsgroup
is recommended. If the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc is defeated
rec.pets.cats will be the "catch-all" group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Everyone has a favorite story about their own cats or someone
else's and they are simply dying to share them. This group
provides a place for stories that make you go "Awwwwwww" and
might even bring a tear to your eye or make you laugh out loud.
If there was ever a place for "cutsie" kitty stories, this is it.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.announce
There is much information to be had in the world of cats.
Everything from breed information to tips on dealing with the
dreaded "Litter Odor". All information needs to be drawn together
under one umbrella group where anyone searching can easily find
it. Making it moderated will exclude extraneous noise and keep it
an informational group.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.community
"Meowchat" is a free wheeling type of posting that can, at
various times, consist of imagined communications between cats
and humans or cats and cats. Postings of this sort have made up a
large part of the traffic in rec.pets.cats (30 to 40%). This
group provides a home base for an open community of people who
engage in meowchat or any other creative methods of discussing
cayts that might arise in the future.
(NOTE: If this proposed group fails Meowchat postings will be
allowed in the proposed group rec.pets.cats.misc with the subject
line restrictions noted in that charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc
also fails meowchat would then move to the parent group,
rec.pets.cats which would be retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
As with any living creature there are do's and don'ts with regard
to the care and feeding of cats. Questions regarding health
problems and behavioral quirks often go unanswered in a group
crowded with a myriad of other postings. This group provides a
central location where the all cat owners can ask those who have
"been there, done that" and get reliable answers. Discussions
about health and behavior issues common to specific breeds are
also welcome.
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.misc
Topics that don't fall under any of the rest of the proposed
sub-groups need a place to fall. This is the place. If this group
passes then rec.pets.cats will be removed as an active newsgroup.
If this group fails then rec.pets.cats will remain and fulfill the
function of this group.
(NOTE: If the proposed rec.pets.cats.community fails then Meowchat
postings would also be placed here, subject to conditions set in
the charter. If rec.pets.cats.misc and rec.pets.cats.community
fail meowchat will be in the parent group, rec.pets.cats, which
is retained.)
RATIONALE: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is meant as an uncluttered gathering place
for those who are interested in feline rescue of all types
(feral, breed, strays, etc.). Such posts are currently lost in
the general noise level of rec.pets.cats. With uncontrolled
breeding we have seen a shocking number of cats become homeless
and wind up in shelters awaiting disposal. This group allows
people who are involved in rescue programs to trade ideas, seek
help and otherwise save a few more feline lives. It can also be
used as a possible source of a new pet/companion for those who
wish to adopt and save a cat.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
This unmoderated group is for the telling of cat stories. They
can be stories of your cat, someone else's cat or just a cat
you've seen somewhere else. The stories can be humorous or sad
but should steer clear of advocating animal cruelty in any form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.announce
This moderated group is meant for quick access to informational
postings covering all areas of cat ownership. Postings to this
group will include, but not be limited to:
o FAQ's about various breeds and their characteristics
o FAQ's regarding care and feeding of domestic cats
o Catnames List
o Announcements of shows, gatherings of interest and
upcoming events.
Appropriate FAQ's already cleared for news.answers will be found
here as will those that were regularly posted in rec.pets.cats.
Announcements of new email lists are appropriate and acceptable.
Postings will occur approximately every 4 weeks with the
"Intro-FAQ" containing pointers to the regular FAQ's appearing
weekly.
Moderation policies:
Reader-supplied FAQs and informational postings on any feline
related topic are welcomed and will be posted subject to
moderator approval. Submissions related to medical matters are
referred to veterinary professionals for confirmation of accuracy
before posting.
No discussions are allowed on this group.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Cross-posting is not allowed. "Followup-To:" will be set to
POSTER on all postings.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: rec.pets.cats.announce
Moderator: Cindy Tittle Moore <rpc-info@zmall.com>
Administrative contact address: rpc-info@zmall.com
Article submission address: rpc-info@zmall.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.community
This unmoderated group is for the free exchange of ideas and
experience about cats and among cat-lovers, whether from a human
or imagined feline perspective.
This is a freeflowing, sometimes whimsical group welcoming both
light-hearted and serious cat-related topics, and the use of any
writing style.
There are no restrictions as to form.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising and provocative or hurtful messages
[flames] are forbidden.
With the exception of PGP (and other similar schemes) keys no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted to
the appropriate binaries group with a short message, directing
the reader to the file location, posted here.
Cross-posting is discouraged. If you must cross-post, however,
care must be taken to ensure that both content and form are
entirely appropriate to all groups posted to, and that
follow-ups are set accordingly.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
This unmoderated group houses discussion concerning the health
and behavior of domestic cats. Appropriate topics include the
prevention and treatment of health problems and diseases; the
care of pregnant, young, and geriatric cats; cat reproduction;
heredity; first aid for cats; internal and external parasites;
normal and abnormal behaviors in cats; techniques for changing
unwanted behaviors; and theories concerning cat health, behavior,
and physical characteristics.
Specific examples of acceptable topics are these:
o Diabetes, feline leukemia, and other diseases.
o Safely eradicating fleas.
o Cats clawing furniture.
NOTE - Declawing flame wars are STRONGLY discouraged.
o Choosing a balanced feline diet
Cats displaying health problems or sudden changes in behavior should
ALWAYS be taken immediately to a qualified veterinarian. Advice
provided in this group should NOT be accepted in lieu of such
qualified care. Posters requiring quick responses during weekends
and holidays should seek the nearest emergency veterinary clinic.
In general, posters should direct cute cat stories and fun questions
to a more appropriate group. The following are examples of topics
that are inappropriate here:
o My cat Fluffy does cute thing X, does yours?
o What's the best cat toy?
[NOTE: The following will be added to the charter if the
proposal for rec.pets.cats.rescue fails. It will be
removed should a new group for the discussion of cat rescue
ever be created in the rec.pets.cats hierarchy.]
The discussion of feline rescue programs is appropriate
under the keyword RESCUE: (with colon). Subjects allowed
in this category include these and related topics:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale is specifically prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are not allowed.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more appropriate
group, if one exists, is encouraged. Rational discussions are
encouraged; personal attacks and flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys, no
binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted in the
appropriate binary group with a short message directing the reader to
the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.misc
This unmoderated group is for all topics not covered by the other
rec.pets.cats subgroups.
(NOTE: If the proposal for rec.pets.cats.community
passes the following clause regarding Meowchat
will be removed from this charter.)
In addition this group is the proper place for what has come to
be known as "Meowchat" postings (written by humans as if they
were actually written by cats). Such postings should have a
Subject: line which begins with the word "MEOW:" (one word, all
caps, followed by a colon) to provide those with kill files a
common string to use. This is the ONLY group where Meowchat
postings should appear. There is no restriction as to the content
of Meowchat postings.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Commercial advertising is not allowed
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: rec.pets.cats.rescue
This unmoderated group is for the discussion of feline rescue
programs of all types. Subjects allowed in this group include,
but are not limited to:
o General discussion of feline rescue methods and
organizations, including breed rescue programs.
o Announcements from and for various rescue groups.
o Informational exchange on rescue methods
o Information on the availability of rescued cats for adoption
and requests from those seeking to adopt rescued cats.
o Discussion concerning lost, stray, and feral cats.
o Rescue programs aimed at specific breeds
Advertising of cats for sale are strictly prohibited.
Commercial advertising in general is prohibited.
Postings advocating animal cruelty in any form are forbidden.
Cross-posting is discouraged. Setting "Followup-To:" a more
appropriate group, if one exists, is encouraged.
Rational discussions are encouraged, personal attacks and
flame-wars are strongly discouraged.
With the exception of PGP (and any other similar schemes) keys,
no binaries are allowed in this group. Binaries should be posted
in the appropriate binary group with a short message directing
the reader to the file location posted here.
END CHARTER.
rec.pets.cats reorg Final Vote Ack
rec.pets.cats.misc (renames rec.pets.cats) --------+
rec.pets.cats.rescue -------+|
rec.pets.cats.health+behav ------+||
rec.pets.cats.community -----+|||
rec.pets.cats.announce ----+||||
rec.pets.cats.anecdotes ---+|||||
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Daniel.A.Efron-1@tc.umn.edu Daniel Efror YYYNYY
dave@frackit.com Dave Ratcliffe YYYYYY
davew@icon-stl.net Dave Weeks YYYYYY
david-kushner@worldnet.att.net Carolyn D. Kushner YYYYYY
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doppsoft@junctionnet.com Ryan Andrew James Biggs YYYYYY
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EWright@ealaghol.demon.co.uk Liza Wright YYYYYY
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gatorfan@phoenixat.com Joanne Tinsley YYYYYY
genet@flash.net GENE TOMLINSON YYYYYY
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gglaser@minn.net Ginger S. Glaser NYYYYN
gibbsm@ll.mit.edu Margaret Gibbs NYYYYN
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julia@amc.com Julia Haviland YYYYYY
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M.Judkins@inter.nl.net Corine M. Judkins YYYYYY
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sandman@dnaco.net Mike Arquilla & Terri Ruwe YYYYYY
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sbiggs@teleweb.net Sean Biggs NYNY-N
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scs@eskimo.com Steve Summit -----N
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spynx@sierra.net Jack Durst YYNY-N
spz@serpens.swb.de S.P.Zeidler YYYYYY
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stenor@pcnet.com Scott Panzer YYYYYY
stenty@ix.netcom.com Linda Stentiford NYYYYY
steph@cyberenet.net Stephanie Smith YYYYYY
SteveMac@GoodNet.Com Stephen MacGregor YYYYYN
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stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz stuart yeates NYNYYN
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takemoto@xtal0.harvard.edu Darin Takemoto NYYYYY
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ted@isgtec.com Ted Richards YYYYYY
teejer@disciples.com T. J. Garron Wilkinson YYYYYY
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thompson@robin.tezcat.com Barbara L, Thompson YYYYYY
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