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From janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu Thu Oct 6 14:06:26 1994
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From: janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu (Janette Wallis)
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Subject: RFD: rec.gardens.ponds
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
Name: REC.GARDENS.PONDS
Status: unmoderated
Distribution: worldwide
Summary: Discussions related to the development and
maintenance of water gardens or ponds.
Proposed by: janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the creation of an
unmoderated newsgroup, rec.gardens.ponds.
PROPOSED CHARTER OF REC.GARDENS.PONDS
Preamble
Rec.gardens.ponds is an unmoderated newsgroup to provide a forum for the
discussion of all aspects of ponds or water gardens.
This Request For Discussion puts forth the suggested name of
"rec.gardens.ponds", rather than the simpler "rec.ponds" because the current
status of Usenet group creation tends to be at the second level hierarchy.
The upcoming discussion phase should include opinions regarding the most
appropriate name. The final name of the newsgroup shall be chosen through
the discussion process, with the majority opinion prevailing.
The Rec.gardens.ponds newsgroup will appeal to a wide range of people
involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of establishing and
maintaining a pond or water garden. We'll have novices to water
gardening as well as experts, the hobbyist as well as genuine botanists
and ichthyologists. Even students wishing to find help with science
projects may read Rec.gardens.ponds. All of these people will be
welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply lurk and learn.
Sphere of Interests
Rec.gardens.ponds is dedicated to the development and maintenance of
water gardens. Examples of discussion topics might include:
*Building a pond/water garden: Details will be shared regarding best
materials to use, procedures for making the pond secure, and appropriate
placement of the pond. Or, in the case of a naturally occurring pond,
what can be done to make it more "user friendly"? We'll have tips on
building a waterfall, installing a fountain, whether to use a filter,
and how to install a biological filter. Also, we may give information
on lighting and how to safely run electrical lines to the pool area.
*Establishing a perfect ecosystem:
Where else can you create your own ecosystem and watch it evolve?
We'll have discussions on water quality; ratio of plant life to animal life;
plant/animal interactions, etc.
*Plant life:
We'll discuss which plants are best suited for our water gardens. Which
plants need a lot of sunlight, which will survive in the pond over
winter, which need to be taken indoors, etc? The Rec.gardens.ponds
newsgroup will serve as a forum for discussing plant diseases and cures,
when to divide, and how to propagate our plants. We'll also share
information on establishing an area for bog plants.
*Fish:
We'll share information on fish behavior, biology, and health. For
example: Which fish are compatible? What's the maximum number of fish
for the size of a pond? What conditions should exist in the pond so
the fish will breed? How do we protect the fry from danger and see that
they grow into healthy adults? Which diseases are likely to effect
pond fish? How much should we feed the fish, and how often?
*Amphibians and Reptiles:
We'll discuss the biology, health, and behavior of frogs, newts,
salamanders, turtles, etc. that either come naturally to the pond or are
placed there by us. Which ones get along?
* Other Environmental Concerns:
In Rec.gardens.ponds, we'll discuss how to make certain the pond is
not a safety hazard for small children or pets. How can we attract
butterflies? Should we attract snails? Also, how do we guard against
unwanted visitors (raccoons, cats, snakes, herons) that may prey on the
fish and/or plants in a pond? What about the use of fertilizers or
insecticides near the pond? Rec.gardens.ponds can be a place to
exchange information on (non-political) conservation issues.
* Miscellaneous: Students can use rec.ponds as a place for learning
more about plant and animal life in and around water. We may exchange
information regarding suppliers of equipment, literature regarding water
garden techniques, location of other electronic resources, etc.
(However, Rec.gardens.ponds is *not* intended as a forum for commercial
transactions with respect to sale of plants, fish, or pond equipment.)
* In the future, rec.gardens.ponds may develop FAQ's that address each of
the above topics.
RATIONALE
Because most water gardeners have both plant and animal life in their
pond, discussions on development and care of ponds has previously been
split between rec.gardens, rec.aquaria, and rec.pets.herp. There is no
newsgroup dedicated only to the interests of water gardeners.
Recently, there have been a growing number of posts, particularly in
"rec.gardens", calling for the creation of a newsgroup dedicated to
discussion of water gardens or ponds, water plant life, pond fish care,
etc. Because the initial response has been so overwhelming, this
announcement calls for a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the
proposed creation of rec.gardens.ponds.
CROSS POSTINGS
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.gardens, rec.aquaria, rec.pets.herp. All discussion will take
place in the group "news.groups."
DISCUSSION
Any objections to this RFD will be considered and, if determined to be
appropriate, incorporated in future posting of the RFD. The discussion
will last for 21 days. If no major changes are required to the
proposed charter, then a Call for Votes (CFV) will then be issued. An
independent third party, from the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers will be
asked to conduct the vote.
This RFD is being posted according to the guidelines set forth in "How
to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup." Please refer to this document if
you have questions about the newsgroup creation process.
To pass, the proposal must receive 100 more "Yes" votes than "No" votes
and at least two thirds of the votes must be positive. Therefore, if
you have an interest in this newsgroup please make it known through
discussion on news.groups (and please remember to vote when the time
comes).
From janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu Tue Nov 1 18:32:19 1994
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From: janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu (Janette Wallis)
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Subject: RFD: rec.ponds
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
Name: REC.PONDS
Status: unmoderated
Distribution: worldwide
Summary: Discussions related to the development and
maintenance of water gardens or ponds.
Proposed by: janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the creation of an
unmoderated newsgroup, rec.ponds.
PROPOSED CHARTER OF REC.PONDS
Preamble
Rec.ponds is an unmoderated newsgroup to provide a forum for the
discussion of all aspects of ponds or water gardens.
This Request For Discussion puts forth the suggested name of
"rec.ponds", after a straw poll was conducted during previous discussion
of a "rec.gardens.ponds" group. The results indicated that "rec.ponds" was
preferred by the majority of the voters.
The Rec.ponds newsgroup will appeal to a wide range of people
involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of establishing
and maintaining a pond or water garden. We'll have novices to water
gardening as well as experts, the hobbyist as well as genuine botanists
and ichthyologists. Even students wishing to find help with science
projects may decide to read Rec.ponds. All of these people will be
welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply lurk and learn.
Sphere of Interests
Rec.ponds is dedicated to the development and maintenance of
water gardens. Examples of discussion topics might include:
*Building a pond/water garden: Details will be shared regarding best
materials to use, procedures for making the pond secure, and appropriate
placement of the pond. Or, in the case of a naturally occurring pond,
what can be done to make it more "user friendly"? We'll have tips on
building a waterfall, installing a fountain, whether to use a filter,
and how to install a biological filter. Also, we may give information
on lighting and how to safely run electrical lines to the pool area.
*Establishing a perfect ecosystem:
Where else can you create your own ecosystem and watch it evolve?
We'll have discussions on water quality; ratio of plant life to animal life;
plant/animal interactions, etc.
*Plant life:
We'll discuss which plants are best suited for our water gardens. Which
plants need a lot of sunlight, which will survive in the pond over
winter, which need to be taken indoors, etc? The Rec.ponds
newsgroup will serve as a forum for discussing plant diseases and cures,
when to divide, and how to propagate our plants. We'll also share
information on establishing an area for bog plants.
*Fish:
We'll share information on fish behavior, biology, and health. For
example: Which fish are compatible? What's the maximum number of fish
for the size of a pond? What conditions should exist in the pond so
the fish will breed? How do we protect the fry from danger and see that
they grow into healthy adults? Which diseases are likely to effect
pond fish? How much should we feed the fish, and how often?
*Amphibians and Reptiles:
We'll discuss the biology, health, and behavior of frogs, newts,
salamanders, turtles, etc. that either come naturally to the pond or are
placed there by us. Which ones get along?
* Other Environmental Concerns:
In Rec.ponds, we'll discuss how to make certain the pond is
not a safety hazard for small children or pets. How can we attract
butterflies? Should we attract snails? Also, how do we guard against
unwanted visitors (raccoons, cats, snakes, herons) that may prey on the
fish and/or plants in a pond? What about the use of fertilizers or
insecticides near the pond? Rec.ponds can be a place to
exchange information on (non-political) conservation issues.
* Miscellaneous: Students can use rec.ponds as a place for learning
more about plant and animal life in and around water. We may exchange
information regarding suppliers of equipment, literature regarding water
garden techniques, location of other electronic resources, etc.
(However, Rec.ponds is *not* intended as a forum for commercial
transactions with respect to sale of plants, fish, or pond equipment.)
* In the future, rec.ponds may develop FAQ's that address each of
the above topics.
RATIONALE
Because most water gardeners have both plant and animal life in their
pond, discussions on development and care of ponds has previously been
split between rec.gardens, rec.aquaria, and rec.pets.herp. There is no
newsgroup dedicated only to the interests of water gardeners.
CROSS POSTINGS
This RFD is being posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
rec.gardens, rec.aquaria, rec.pets.herp. All discussion will take
place in the group "news.groups."
DISCUSSION
This is the second posting of the Charter for a newsgroup for ponds. The
first posting proposed the name "rec.gardens.ponds", but with the same
charter described above. That posting occurred on 6 October 1994. The
only issue raised during the discussion period was that of the newsgroup's
name. Because the discussion grew quite heated, a Straw Poll was
conducted by Wayne Powell (wap@interlog.com). Straw Poll results were
posted on 25 October 1994. The majority of votes (50.4%) were for
"rec.ponds", with "rec.gardens.ponds" a distant 33.1%. (Please contact
Wayne for straw poll questions/details.)
This second posting of the RFD reflects the newly agreed upon name
"rec.ponds." It is being posted to news.announce.newgroups on 27 October
1994 and continued discussion regarding the contents of the proposal will
last for approximately one more week.
If no major changes are required to the proposed charter, then a Call for
Votes (CFV) will then be issued. An independent third party, from the
Usenet Volunteer Votetakers will be asked to conduct the vote.
This RFD is being posted according to the guidelines set forth in "How
to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup." Please refer to this document if
you have questions about the newsgroup creation process.
To pass, the proposal must receive 100 more "Yes" votes than "No" votes
and at least two thirds of the votes must be positive. Therefore, if
you have an interest in this newsgroup please make it known through
discussion on news.groups (and please remember to vote when the time
comes).
From jamesm@dialogic.com Mon Nov 21 12:49:13 1994
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From: jamesm@dialogic.com (Mark James)
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Subject: CFV: rec.ponds
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1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
Unmoderated group rec.ponds
Newsgroups line:
rec.ponds Pond issues: plants, fish, design, maintenance.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>. For
questions about the proposed group, contact Janette Wallis
<janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu>.
CHARTER
-------
Rec.ponds is an unmoderated newsgroup to provide a forum for the
discussion of all aspects of ponds or water gardens.
The rec.ponds newsgroup will appeal to a wide range of people
involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of establishing
and maintaining a pond or water garden. We'll have novices to water
gardening as well as experts, the hobbyist as well as genuine botanists
and ichthyologists. Even students wishing to find help with science
projects may decide to read rec.ponds. All of these people will be
welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply lurk and learn.
Examples of discussion topics might include:
* Building a pond/water garden:
Details will be shared regarding best materials to use, procedures for
making the pond secure, and appropriate placement of the pond. Or, in
the case of a naturally occurring pond, what can be done to make it more
"user friendly"? We'll have tips on building a waterfall, installing a
fountain, whether to use a filter, and how to install a biological
filter. Also, we may give information on lighting and how to safely run
electrical lines to the pool area.
* Establishing a perfect ecosystem:
Where else can you create your own ecosystem and watch it evolve?
We'll have discussions on water quality; ratio of plant life to animal life;
plant/animal interactions, etc.
* Plant life:
We'll discuss which plants are best suited for our water gardens. Which
plants need a lot of sunlight, which will survive in the pond over
winter, which need to be taken indoors, etc? The rec.ponds
newsgroup will serve as a forum for discussing plant diseases and cures,
when to divide, and how to propagate our plants. We'll also share
information on establishing an area for bog plants.
* Fish:
We'll share information on fish behavior, biology, and health. For
example: Which fish are compatible? What's the maximum number of fish
for the size of a pond? What conditions should exist in the pond so
the fish will breed? How do we protect the fry from danger and see that
they grow into healthy adults? Which diseases are likely to affect
pond fish? How much should we feed the fish, and how often?
* Amphibians and reptiles:
We'll discuss the biology, health, and behavior of frogs, newts,
salamanders, turtles, etc. that either come naturally to the pond or are
placed there by us. Which ones get along?
* Other environmental concerns:
In rec.ponds, we'll discuss how to make certain the pond is
not a safety hazard for small children or pets. How can we attract
butterflies? Should we attract snails? Also, how do we guard against
unwanted visitors (raccoons, cats, snakes, herons) that may prey on the
fish and/or plants in a pond? What about the use of fertilizers or
insecticides near the pond? Rec.ponds can be a place to
exchange information on (non-political) conservation issues.
* Miscellaneous:
Students can use rec.ponds as a place for learning more about plant and
animal life in and around water. We may exchange information regarding
suppliers of equipment, literature regarding water garden techniques,
location of other electronic resources, etc. (However, rec.ponds is
*not* intended as a forum for commercial transactions with respect to
sale of plants, fish, or pond equipment.)
* In the future, rec.ponds may develop FAQ's that address each of
the above topics.
RATIONALE
---------
Because most water gardeners have both plant and animal life in their
pond, discussions on development and care of ponds has previously been
split between rec.gardens, rec.aquaria, and rec.pets.herp. There is no
newsgroup dedicated only to the interests of water gardeners.
HOW TO VOTE
-----------
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to:
jamesm@dialogic.com
Just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work, assuming you are
reading this using standard newsreader software. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.ponds
I vote NO on rec.ponds
I ABSTAIN on rec.ponds
I CANCEL my vote on rec.ponds
You may add a comment, or use other wording, but only a definite,
unconditional, unambiguous statement for or against the creation of
rec.ponds will count as a vote.
Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)
If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.
All votes will be acknowledged by E-mail. If you don't receive an
acknowledgment within a few days of your vote, vote again. It is your
responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.
RESULT
------
The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.
There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.
--
Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>
Dialogic Corporation, 3307 Northland Dr | "We must believe in free will.
Suite 270, Austin TX 78731 U.S.A. | We have no choice."
+1 512 459 7766 ext 110 | -- I. B. Singer
From jamesm@dialogic.com Fri Dec 2 15:18:43 1994
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From: jamesm@dialogic.com (Mark James)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.ponds
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2nd CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
Unmoderated group rec.ponds
Newsgroups line:
rec.ponds Pond issues: plants, fish, design, maintenance.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>. For
questions about the proposed group, contact Janette Wallis
<janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu>.
CHARTER
-------
Rec.ponds is an unmoderated newsgroup to provide a forum for the
discussion of all aspects of ponds or water gardens.
The rec.ponds newsgroup will appeal to a wide range of people
involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of establishing
and maintaining a pond or water garden. We'll have novices to water
gardening as well as experts, the hobbyist as well as genuine botanists
and ichthyologists. Even students wishing to find help with science
projects may decide to read rec.ponds. All of these people will be
welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply lurk and learn.
Examples of discussion topics might include:
* Building a pond/water garden:
Details will be shared regarding best materials to use, procedures for
making the pond secure, and appropriate placement of the pond. Or, in
the case of a naturally occurring pond, what can be done to make it more
"user friendly"? We'll have tips on building a waterfall, installing a
fountain, whether to use a filter, and how to install a biological
filter. Also, we may give information on lighting and how to safely run
electrical lines to the pool area.
* Establishing a perfect ecosystem:
Where else can you create your own ecosystem and watch it evolve?
We'll have discussions on water quality; ratio of plant life to animal life;
plant/animal interactions, etc.
* Plant life:
We'll discuss which plants are best suited for our water gardens. Which
plants need a lot of sunlight, which will survive in the pond over
winter, which need to be taken indoors, etc? The rec.ponds
newsgroup will serve as a forum for discussing plant diseases and cures,
when to divide, and how to propagate our plants. We'll also share
information on establishing an area for bog plants.
* Fish:
We'll share information on fish behavior, biology, and health. For
example: Which fish are compatible? What's the maximum number of fish
for the size of a pond? What conditions should exist in the pond so
the fish will breed? How do we protect the fry from danger and see that
they grow into healthy adults? Which diseases are likely to affect
pond fish? How much should we feed the fish, and how often?
* Amphibians and reptiles:
We'll discuss the biology, health, and behavior of frogs, newts,
salamanders, turtles, etc. that either come naturally to the pond or are
placed there by us. Which ones get along?
* Other environmental concerns:
In rec.ponds, we'll discuss how to make certain the pond is
not a safety hazard for small children or pets. How can we attract
butterflies? Should we attract snails? Also, how do we guard against
unwanted visitors (raccoons, cats, snakes, herons) that may prey on the
fish and/or plants in a pond? What about the use of fertilizers or
insecticides near the pond? Rec.ponds can be a place to
exchange information on (non-political) conservation issues.
* Miscellaneous:
Students can use rec.ponds as a place for learning more about plant and
animal life in and around water. We may exchange information regarding
suppliers of equipment, literature regarding water garden techniques,
location of other electronic resources, etc. (However, rec.ponds is
*not* intended as a forum for commercial transactions with respect to
sale of plants, fish, or pond equipment.)
* In the future, rec.ponds may develop FAQ's that address each of
the above topics.
RATIONALE
---------
Because most water gardeners have both plant and animal life in their
pond, discussions on development and care of ponds has previously been
split between rec.gardens, rec.aquaria, and rec.pets.herp. There is no
newsgroup dedicated only to the interests of water gardeners.
HOW TO VOTE
-----------
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to:
jamesm@dialogic.com
Just replying by E-MAIL to this message should work, assuming you are
reading this using standard newsreader software. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following statements:
I vote YES on rec.ponds
I vote NO on rec.ponds
I ABSTAIN on rec.ponds
I CANCEL my vote on rec.ponds
You may add a comment, or use other wording, but only a definite,
unconditional, unambiguous statement for or against the creation of
rec.ponds will count as a vote.
Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)
If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.
All votes will be acknowledged by E-mail. If you don't receive an
acknowledgment within a few days of your vote, vote again. It is your
responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.
RESULT
------
The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.
There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.
BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
----------------------------
Vote acknowledgment messages to the following address have bounced.
(The vote has been counted.)
sw48a@pop.nih.gov (Steven Warthan)
--
Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>
Dialogic Corporation, 3307 Northland Dr | "We must believe in free will.
Suite 270, Austin TX 78731 U.S.A. | We have no choice."
+1 512 459 7766 ext 110 | -- I. B. Singer
From jamesm@dialogic.com Wed Dec 14 15:16:06 1994
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From: jamesm@dialogic.com (Mark James)
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Subject: RESULT: rec.ponds passes 361:77
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VOTE RESULT
Unmoderated group rec.ponds
Voting closed on 12 December 1994 at 23:59:59 GMT. The results are:
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
361 77 : Yes Yes : Yes : rec.ponds
There were no abstentions.
This margin is adequate for newgroup creation. There will now be a
five-day period during which corrections to the vote count may be
made. Barring serious controversy about the vote, the group will
be created shortly thereafter.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.
Vote-taker: Mark James <jamesm@dialogic.com>
Group proponent: Janette Wallis <janette-wallis@uokhsc.edu>
Newsgroups line:
rec.ponds Pond issues: plants, fish, design, maintenance.
CHARTER (as printed in the Call for Votes)
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Rec.ponds is an unmoderated newsgroup to provide a forum for the
discussion of all aspects of ponds or water gardens.
The rec.ponds newsgroup will appeal to a wide range of people
involved in both the recreational and professional aspects of establishing
and maintaining a pond or water garden. We'll have novices to water
gardening as well as experts, the hobbyist as well as genuine botanists
and ichthyologists. Even students wishing to find help with science
projects may decide to read rec.ponds. All of these people will be
welcomed to share ideas, ask questions, or simply lurk and learn.
Examples of discussion topics might include:
* Building a pond/water garden:
Details will be shared regarding best materials to use, procedures for
making the pond secure, and appropriate placement of the pond. Or, in
the case of a naturally occurring pond, what can be done to make it more
"user friendly"? We'll have tips on building a waterfall, installing a
fountain, whether to use a filter, and how to install a biological
filter. Also, we may give information on lighting and how to safely run
electrical lines to the pool area.
* Establishing a perfect ecosystem:
Where else can you create your own ecosystem and watch it evolve?
We'll have discussions on water quality; ratio of plant life to animal life;
plant/animal interactions, etc.
* Plant life:
We'll discuss which plants are best suited for our water gardens. Which
plants need a lot of sunlight, which will survive in the pond over
winter, which need to be taken indoors, etc? The rec.ponds
newsgroup will serve as a forum for discussing plant diseases and cures,
when to divide, and how to propagate our plants. We'll also share
information on establishing an area for bog plants.
* Fish:
We'll share information on fish behavior, biology, and health. For
example: Which fish are compatible? What's the maximum number of fish
for the size of a pond? What conditions should exist in the pond so
the fish will breed? How do we protect the fry from danger and see that
they grow into healthy adults? Which diseases are likely to affect
pond fish? How much should we feed the fish, and how often?
* Amphibians and reptiles:
We'll discuss the biology, health, and behavior of frogs, newts,
salamanders, turtles, etc. that either come naturally to the pond or are
placed there by us. Which ones get along?
* Other environmental concerns:
In rec.ponds, we'll discuss how to make certain the pond is
not a safety hazard for small children or pets. How can we attract
butterflies? Should we attract snails? Also, how do we guard against
unwanted visitors (raccoons, cats, snakes, herons) that may prey on the
fish and/or plants in a pond? What about the use of fertilizers or
insecticides near the pond? Rec.ponds can be a place to
exchange information on (non-political) conservation issues.
* Miscellaneous:
Students can use rec.ponds as a place for learning more about plant and
animal life in and around water. We may exchange information regarding
suppliers of equipment, literature regarding water garden techniques,
location of other electronic resources, etc. (However, rec.ponds is
*not* intended as a forum for commercial transactions with respect to
sale of plants, fish, or pond equipment.)
* In the future, rec.ponds may develop FAQ's that address each of
the above topics.
VOTE ACKNOWLEDGMENT
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A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (Arnold Chamove)
aaronf@racer.sde.hp.com (Aaron Friesen)
ac603@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Al Crosby)
ADONG@vmsmail.gov.bc.ca (Allan Dong @ EMPR)
afn12928@freenet.ufl.edu (Robert S. Schrieber)
ag928@freenet.carleton.ca (Earl J.S. Rook)
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angela@julian.uwo.ca (Angela Devito)
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