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From wdp@gagme.chi.il.us Sat Apr 4 03:12:36 1992
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From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: RFD: rec.radio.broadcasting
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This is a call for discussion on the creation of a new Usenet newsgroup,
tentitively entitled rec.radio.broadcasting. I am proposing that this
newsgroup be moderated, and barring any serious objection, I am offering
my time and energy to BE that moderator.
As the 'statement of charter' indicates, I believe that a group of this
type is needed on Usenet because there is no current newsgroup dealing
with the general subject of radio broadcasting. Yet radio is, arguably,
the most consumed of all mass media, in terms of actual person/hours
of exposure. People listen to radio in their cars, in their offices,
while jogging, dining, reading, getting ready for work, commuting,
and just about any other conceivable activity. Radio shapes our opinions,
perceptions, musical tastes, and (hopefully) stimulates our imagination.
For these reasons, and others, I propose the creation of this newsgroup.
I suggest a 'moderated' format, for these reasons.
1) A properly moderated group generally produces a more concise and
cohesive product w/less "net-clutter" and a higher signal/noise ratio.
2) If the moderator is knowledgable in the subject matter covered in
the newsgroup, s/he can be of assistance in responding to questions
posed to the group which might, otherwise, go un-answered.
3) Moderation of a newsgroup means different things to differnet people.
My concept of moderation is simply to act as a buffer, weeding out
test messages, repetitive, abusive or 'grossly off topic' messages,
and to re-direct misplaced articles to appropriate newsgroups, where
possible.
I am an experienced broadcaster, and have had an avid interest in the
medium since early childhood. I would consider moderating this group
an honor and a pleasure, because of my respect for the medium, and the
people in it. Plus, I have time and willingness to dedicate to such a
project.
The tentitive name of 'rec.radio.broadcasting' (r.r.b) is, of course, open
to change if a better title can be created. While the charter of the
group suggests potential topics which are not specifically recreational,
I tend to feel that 'rec' might be the be the most appropriate heading since
the only other Usenet group dealing with domestic broadcast radio
(rec.radio.noncomm) uses this heading and therefore r.r.b would be
a good companion group.
I considered the name 'talk.radio.broadcasting', but felt there might
be a misunderstanding that the group was centered around the 'talk radio'
format. Perhaps something like 'talk.broadcasting.radio' might be
a good alternative, but that will be determined by you folks
"out there in Usenet-land" :), assuming that the process gets that far.
I do not envision r.r.b to be a replacement for any other newsgroup,
including rec.radio.noncomm. The latter group's focus is on a specific
genre of radio and therfore I feel the two groups would compliment,
rather than compete with, one another.
****** Statement of charter; rec.radio.broadcasting. *********
Rec.radio.broadcasting (r.r.b) will be for discussion of a wide variety of
subjects pertaining to the general arena of entertainment/information
radio. While not specifically limited to North American broadcasting,
r.r.b will avoid dealing with international (shortwave) broadcasts
because this topic is already being handled in rec.radio.shortwave.
Valid subjects for discussion might include (but not be limited to);
1) Programming and formats
2) Technical and engineering matters
3) Concerns of smaller market stations
4) Innovations and legislation affecting the medium
(and those attempting to enter it)
5) Radio's historical & cultural significance
6) Radio news coverage and it's impact on our nation and our world.
7) Audience input and ideas for improving the state of radio broadcasting.
Since rec.radio.noncommercial is the only Usenet group pertaining to
domestic broadcast radio, r.r.b would provide a forum for those
individuals who's interest in the medium is not limited to the
non-commercial arena. I believe this group would be of great
interest to Usenet participants because ...
1) Everybody listens to, and is affected by, radio broadcasting. It
is the only mass media in which one can fully participate, while
engaged in another activity.
2) Colleges and universities currently train, and graduate, thousands of
potential radio professionals every year. These individuals would
be very likely to participate in such a forum to discuss and compare
notes on their chosen field of endeavor.
3) The face of radio is always changing. Satellite feeds, automation,
and other influences are molding the future of the medium. This
newsgroup would be a link between interested parties from all corners
of the industry, keeping one-another up to date on the latest trends
impacting radio broadcasting in America an beyond.
********************** End Of Statement Of Charter *********************
I welcome your comments and suggestions. If all goes reasonably well
I will be putting out a 'Call For Votes' in about a month and hopefully
the Usenet community will agree that such a group would be a valuable
addition to it's heirarchy. Since this is not a proposal for 'splitting'
an existing newsgroup, but rather for the creation of a group to fill
a 'vacancy', I hope you will seriously consider a positive response to
this proposal even if you, yourself, are not particularily involved
or interested in broadcasting. Such a group could only augment the
already diverse spectrum of Usenet newsgroups.
Feel encouraged to post responses to news.groups, and/or to e-mail me
directly at the following address.
wdp@gagme.chi.il.us
send c.c. to..
wdp@chinet.chi.il.us
Thank you.
William D. Pfeiffer
From wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us Sat Apr 4 03:32:45 1992
From: wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: CFV: rec.radio.broadcasting moderated
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1992 18:11:25 GMT
This is a Call For Votes on the creation of a new Usenet newsgroup
entitled 'rec.radio.broadcasting.
STATUS: Moderated.
PURPOSE: This group will be for the discussion of a wide variety of
subjects pertaining to the general arena of domestic radio
broadcasting. Topics of discussion might include (but not
be limited to): Programming, Engineering/Technical, Radio
news and political coverage, Challenges of secondary
market stations, Innovations and legislation affecting
the media, Historical and cultural significance, Network radio,
Domestic pirate broadcasting, Differences and similarities
in 'domestic' radio of various nations, General items of
interest to broadcast professionals, hopefulls, affectionados,
and casual listeners, Assistance to those desiring to enter
the industry by providing a 'networking' infrastructure.
REASONS: Everybody listens to the radio. It influences our lives, our
political beliefs, musical tastes, purchasing habits, and
(hopefully) stimulates our imagination. Radio, in it's many
forms, is pervasive. It is the only mass media in which
one can fully participate while engaged in another
activity. Amazingly, there is no Usenet newsgroup dedicated
to the overall topic of radio broadcasting.
Limits: I do not envision rec.radio.broadcasting to be a
replacement for such groups as rec.radio.noncomm or
rec.radio.shortwave. Rec.radio broadcasting (r.r.b) would
try to avoid dealing with subjects which are directly and
_specifically_ related to the charter(s) of these groups,
but will gladly cover _any_ subject which has significance
to radio broadcasting in general, even if it involves
noncommercial or shortwave stations. R.r.b would be
likely to shy away from discussions (flame wars) about
specific performers & bands, except as it pertains to radio
programming and formats (there are many .music groups on
the net for such discussions).
MODERATION: I have proposed this as a moderated group. I have also
volunteered to serve as that moderator. I believe in a
very 'light-handed' approach to moderation. Basically no
more than a buffer, re-directing misplaced articles, attempting
to quell excessive 'free-for-all-flame-fests' :-), and trying
to keep the signal/noise ratio on the 'signal' side :-).
*** I AM NOT A CENSOR ***. I will NEVER kill an article
because it clashes with my beliefs or opinions! In addition,
I have my own dedicated Unix system with it's own direct
Internet e-mail feed, I have time and energy to dedicate
to the project, I have had a life-long involvement with
radio and communication, plus the wise counsel and support
of many in the industry, and on the net.
TO VOTE YES, SEND E-MAIL TO 'yes-rrb@gagme.chi.il.us' (OMIT THE QUOTES)
TO VOTE NO, SEND E-MAIL TO 'no-rrb@gagme.chi.il.us'
Only votes sent by e-mail, to the above address will be counted!
Do not respond directly to this post. Voting will end on 4/30/92.
No conditional votes will be accepted. Votes should have a line in
the subject or body of the letter stating clear intent, such as..
"I vote yes on rec.radio.broadcasting as proposed" or
"I vote no on rec.radio.broadcasting as proposed", or some similar
non-ambiguous statement. Mass acknowledgements, and possible re-posts of
this CFV will appear from time to time in news.announce.newgroups and
news.groups as well as other related newsgroups. Vote counts will be
verified (if needed) by the sysadmin at the 'gagme' site.
If anyone desires direct corespondence with me on this subject, please
write to me at my personal e-mail address 'wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us'.
However, I will not enter into any discussion of vote totals or
projections while the vote is underway.
** VOTES WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED AT THE 'AIRWAVES' ADDRESS! ***
(Exception to above rule: If your vote bounces, send it, and the entire
bounced header, to me at airwaves, and it will be included).
Thanks to those who expressed support.
Respectfully
--
William Pfeiffer
wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us
From wdp@gagme.chi.il.us Sun Apr 19 21:38:29 1992
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From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.radio.broadcasting moderated
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This is the _SECOND_ Call For Votes on the creation of a new Usenet newsgroup
entitled 'rec.radio.broadcasting'. For those of you who have not yet seen the
original CFV, I have included most of it in this posting. At the end of the
CFV, there is a mass ack of votes received as of April 8, 1992. If you
have not voted yet, and have an interest in this group, please vote now.
Voting will end April 30, 1992 at 12:00 midnight central daylight time.
Please read and follow voting guidelines carefully to assure that your vote
will be counted, and that there will be no confusion.
============================ CFV rec.radio.broadcasting ====================
STATUS: Moderated.
PURPOSE: This group will be for the discussion of a wide variety of
subjects pertaining to the general arena of domestic radio
broadcasting. Topics of discussion might include (but not
be limited to): Programming, Engineering/Technical, Radio
news and political coverage, Challenges of secondary
market stations, Innovations and legislation affecting
the media, Historical and cultural significance, Network radio,
Domestic pirate broadcasting, Differences and similarities
in 'domestic' radio of various nations, General items of
interest to broadcast professionals, hopefuls, affectionados,
and casual listeners, Assistance to those desiring to enter
the industry by providing a 'networking' infrastructure.
REASONS: Everybody listens to the radio. It influences our lives, our
political beliefs, musical tastes, purchasing habits, and
(hopefully) stimulates our imagination. Radio, in it's many
forms, is pervasive. It is the only mass media in which
one can fully participate while engaged in another
activity. Amazingly, there is no Usenet newsgroup dedicated
to the overall topic of radio broadcasting.
LIMITS: I do not envision rec.radio.broadcasting to be a
replacement for such groups as rec.radio.noncomm or
rec.radio.shortwave. Rec.radio broadcasting (r.r.b) would
try to avoid dealing with subjects which are directly and
_specifically_ related to the charter(s) of these groups,
but will gladly cover _any_ subject which has significance
to radio broadcasting in general, even if it involves
noncommercial or shortwave stations. R.r.b would be
likely to shy away from discussions (flame wars) about
specific performers & bands, except as it pertains to radio
programming and formats (there are many .music groups on
the net for such discussions).
MODERATION: I have proposed this as a moderated group. I have also
volunteered to serve as that moderator. I believe in a
very 'light-handed' approach to moderation. Basically no
more than a buffer, re-directing misplaced articles, attempting
to quell excessive 'free-for-all-flame-fests' :-), and trying
to keep the signal/noise ratio on the 'signal' side :-).
*** I AM NOT A CENSOR ***. I will NEVER kill an article
because it clashes with my beliefs or opinions! In addition,
I have my own dedicated Unix system with it's own direct
Internet e-mail feed, I have time and energy to dedicate
to the project, I have had a life-long involvement with
radio and communication, plus the wise counsel and support
of many in the industry, and on the net.
==============================================
TO VOTE YES, SEND E-MAIL TO 'yes-rrb@gagme.chi.il.us' (OMIT THE QUOTES)
TO VOTE NO, SEND E-MAIL TO 'no-rrb@gagme.chi.il.us'
(Note: be sure to address the vote EXACTLY as it appears above. Some
mailers require that you type a backslash \ prior to the @ symbol in
the address. If you have trouble with the @ symbol, try this method.)
Only votes sent by e-mail, to the above address will be counted!
Do not respond directly to this post. Voting will end on 4/30/92.
No conditional votes will be accepted. Votes should have a line in
the subject or body of the letter stating clear intent, such as..
"I vote yes on rec.radio.broadcasting as proposed"
_OR_
"I vote no on rec.radio.broadcasting as proposed"
... or some similar non-ambiguous statement.
If anyone desires direct correspondence with me on this subject, please
write to me at my personal e-mail address 'wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us'.
However, I will not enter into any discussion of vote totals or
projections while the vote is underway.
** VOTES WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED AT THE 'AIRWAVES' ADDRESS! ***
If your vote should bounce, re-send it (with the original bounced header
in tact), to root@gagme.chi.il.us. The sysadmin will place it in the correct
mailbox.
If (for some reason) the 'root' attempt bounces, send THAT attempt to me
at my airwaves address and I will deal with it.
Thanks to those who expressed support.
Respectfully
William Pfeiffer
wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us
============================ Voting Ack's ============================
If you do not see your name/address here, and you DID send a vote,
Please re-send it to the appropriate address above along with a note
saying that you DID vote, but that your vote was not ack'd.
Thank you.
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From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.radio.broadcasting moderated
Message-ID: <1992Apr20.145308.4773@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
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This is the _Third_ Call For Votes and second vote ack for the creation of a
new Usenet newsgroup entitled 'rec.radio.broadcasting'. For those of you who
have not yet seen the original CFV, I have included most of it in this
posting. At the end of the CFV, there is a mass ack of votes received between
April 9 - 16, 1992. If you have not voted yet, and have an interest in this
group, please vote now.
Voting will end April 30, 1992 at 12:00 midnight central daylight time.
Please read and follow voting guidelines carefully to assure that your vote
will be counted, and that there will be no confusion.
============================ CFV rec.radio.broadcasting ====================
STATUS: Moderated.
PURPOSE: This group will be for the discussion of a wide variety of
subjects pertaining to the general arena of domestic radio
broadcasting. Topics of discussion might include (but not
be limited to): Programming, Engineering/Technical, Radio
news and political coverage, Challenges of secondary
market stations, Innovations and legislation affecting
the media, Historical and cultural significance, Network radio,
Domestic pirate broadcasting, Differences and similarities
in 'domestic' radio of various nations, General items of
interest to broadcast professionals, hopefuls, affectionados,
and casual listeners, Assistance to those desiring to enter
the industry by providing a 'networking' infrastructure.
REASONS: Everybody listens to the radio. It influences our lives, our
political beliefs, musical tastes, purchasing habits, and
(hopefully) stimulates our imagination. Radio, in it's many
forms, is pervasive. It is the only mass media in which
one can fully participate while engaged in another
activity. Amazingly, there is no Usenet newsgroup dedicated
to the overall topic of radio broadcasting.
LIMITS: I do not envision rec.radio.broadcasting to be a
replacement for such groups as rec.radio.noncomm or
rec.radio.shortwave. Rec.radio broadcasting (r.r.b) would
try to avoid dealing with subjects which are directly and
_specifically_ related to the charter(s) of these groups,
but will gladly cover _any_ subject which has significance
to radio broadcasting in general, even if it involves
noncommercial or shortwave stations. R.r.b would be
likely to shy away from discussions (flame wars) about
specific performers & bands, except as it pertains to radio
programming and formats (there are many .music groups on
the net for such discussions).
MODERATION: I have proposed this as a moderated group. I have also
volunteered to serve as that moderator. I believe in a
very 'light-handed' approach to moderation. Basically no
more than a buffer, re-directing misplaced articles, attempting
to quell excessive 'free-for-all-flame-fests' :-), and trying
to keep the signal/noise ratio on the 'signal' side :-).
*** I AM NOT A CENSOR ***. I will NEVER kill an article
because it clashes with my beliefs or opinions! In addition,
I have my own dedicated Unix system with it's own direct
Internet e-mail feed, I have time and energy to dedicate
to the project, I have had a life-long involvement with
radio and communication, plus the wise counsel and support
of many in the industry, and on the net.
==============================================
TO VOTE YES, SEND E-MAIL TO 'yes-rrb@gagme.chi.il.us' (OMIT THE QUOTES)
TO VOTE NO, SEND E-MAIL TO 'no-rrb@gagme.chi.il.us'
Only votes sent by e-mail, to the above address will be counted!
Do not respond directly to this post. Voting will end on 4/30/92.
No conditional votes will be accepted (I.E "I would vote [...] if [...] )
Votes should have a line in the subject or body of the letter stating clear
intent, such as..
"I vote yes on rec.radio.broadcasting as proposed"
_OR_
"I vote no on rec.radio.broadcasting as proposed"
... or some similar non-ambiguous statement.
If anyone desires direct correspondence with me on this subject, please
write to me at my personal e-mail address 'wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us'.
However, I will not enter into any discussion of vote totals or
projections while the vote is underway.
** VOTES WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED AT THE 'AIRWAVES' ADDRESS! ***
If your vote should bounce, re-send it (with the original bounced header
intact), to root@gagme.chi.il.us. The sysadmin will place it in the correct
mailbox.
If (for some reason) the 'root' attempt bounces, send THAT attempt to me
at my airwaves address and I will deal with it.
Thanks to those who expressed support.
Respectfully
William Pfeiffer
wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us
============================ Voting Ack's ============================
These are votes received between April 9th and the 15th at the above
address(s). Votes received before that were included in the first ack, and
are not included here.
If you do not see your name/address here, and you DID send a vote
between, say April 8th and 16th, Please re-send it to the appropriate address
above along with a note saying that you DID vote, but that your vote was not
ack'd.
Thank you.
"Dennis G. Rears " <drears@pica.army.mil>
BSCHLESINGER@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV
Aaron Dickey, The Happy Spore" <AXD7104@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU>
alpo!kam@uunet.UU.NET (Kurt A Melden)
cs00jmc@unccvax.uncc.edu (John Covington WN4BBJ)
cs201329@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs201329)
cumminje@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Dan Faulkner <djf26675@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
Erica Roth <ST890020@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
feit@ERA.COM (Mark Feit)
gilman@cshl.org
G.Marshall@ee.surrey.ac.uk
gpratt@attmail.att.com (Gary E Pratt)
gt4503e@prism.gatech.edu (Tracy K. Wood/KD0UP)
Harald Brinkmann <harry@cs.tu-berlin.de>
"Hardcore Alaskan" <FSSPR%ALASKA.ACAD3A.mrouter@acad3.alaska.edu>
James "P.N." Vaughton <vaughton@tower-unix.city-poly.ac.uk>
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu>
jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
JESSON AS MR <ee01aj@surrey.ac.uk>
Joel B Levin <levin@BBN.COM>
John Peng-Yung Cheng <jpc7r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU>
katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie)
lagnaf@cs1.bradley.edu (Jeremy Styninger)
Loren Omoto <73407.3110@CompuServe.COM>
Ludwig van Duane <detlev@Athena.MIT.EDU>
Mark Cox <M.J.H.Cox@bradford.ac.uk>
Matthew Ballantine <M.Ballantine@loughborough.ac.uk>
mikeg@Athena.MIT.EDU
Paul Stimpson <P.R.Stimpson@technology.thames.ac.uk>
pbaatech@peg.apc.org
"Seth Tisue" <tisu@midway.uchicago.edu>
shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ("Duckie" Shiau)
ss@panix.com (Steve Steinberg)
stuart@apollo.hp.com
The Gary Allen Show <adam@wam.umd.edu>
toad@cellar.org
Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tom_limoncelli@uunet.UU.NET>
tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
"W.DEVONPORT" <W.Devonport@bradford.ac.uk>
weaver@sfc.Sony.COM (Eric Weaver)
mcdchg!motatl!gatech!pavnet.pcn.org!pep (Phil Pavarini Jr.)
chwartz@brspyr1.brs.com (David Schwartz)
======================== End of File =======================
From wdp@gagme.chi.il.us Fri May 1 17:33:42 1992
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From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: RESULT: rec.radio.broadcasting passes 234: 34
Message-ID: <1992May1.194903.16241@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Fri, 1 May 1992 19:49:03 GMT
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Lines: 350
Voting on the proposed creation of rec.radio.broadcasting has
ended as of 4/30/92. The proposal received 234 yes votes
to 34 no votes, thus satisfying the Usenet criteria of both a 2/3
majority and 100 more yes votes than no votes, required for the
creation of this forum.
There were a few duplicate yes votes, which have been removed, no
switched votes, and a couple of no votes which did not strictly comply
with the voting guidelines, but were included anyway since intent
seemed clear.
CHARTER: Rec.radio broadcasting is intended as a worldwide forum
dedicated to discussion of subjects pertaining to 'domestic' radio
broadcasting. By the term 'domestic', we mean radio which is intended
basically for reception within the country from which it originates.
In other words any and all broadcasting which is not primarily intended for
reception in other countries/continents.
Valid subjects might include (but not be limited to) ...
* Technical and engineering matters
* Programming and formats (such as.. but not limited to..)
* Music and entertainment
* News & talk shows
* Political coverage
* Specialized formats
* Legislation and regulations affecting the medium
* Technologies affecting the medium
* Ideas for improving radio broadcasting
* Differences and similatrities between nation's broadcast services
* Low-power radio broadcasting
* Community broadcast radio
* Pirate broadcasting
* Broadcast DX
* Radio's historical & cultural significance
* Information exchanges for those seeking employment in radio.
* Shop talk, gabfesting and general communications between broadcast
professionals, hopefuls and listeners across the globe!
About the only traffic which is NOT welcome on this group is..
# Flames and endless arguments over personal tastes in music/programming.
# Unwarranted and excessive profanity and/or personal attacks.
# Articles not pertaining to radio broadcasting. (*)
# Articles about two-way, cellular, or other non-broadcast radio services,
unless they directly relate TO broadcasting. (*)
(*) - except matters of urgency to computer users, the public at-large,
or other matters of great impact or importance.
While this WILL be a moderated forum, I will restate that I believe in
minimal moderation and _NO_ censorhip! This means I will not kill any
incoming articles because they clash with some personal opinion or
belief. In other words, the ONLY reasons that an article might be killed
is if it falls into one of the above categories, or if it is one of
many identical responses to a posters question. In the latter
case, I would post a few of the identical responses and e-mail the remainder
to the poster requesting the information, giving a credit line to those who
posted, but were not printed. This is done to conserve net bandwidth.
So, without further adieu, here are the votes which came in over the past
month starting with the YES votes:
1 10U6123@csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU
2 10U6579@csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU
3 "Aaron Dickey, The Happy Spore" <AXD7104@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU>
4 Alan Tai <ACTAIX%WMVM1.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
5 ALLEN.RIELAND@mail.admin.wisc.edu
6 alpo!kam@uunet.UU.NET (Kurt A Melden)
7 AMARGERI@sd-vax.bbn.com
8 andrea@chinet.chi.il.us (Andrea Donderi)
9 ANDREW WEISKOPF <ST891425@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
10 andrewb@suite.sw.oz.au (Andrew Bettison)
11 Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
12 Arlen Diamond <AED852F@vma.smsu.edu>
13 <awerling@NMSU.Edu>
14 AXD7104@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU
15 babani@acsu.buffalo.edu (Rusty Babani)
16 barrey@frodo.novell.com (Barrey Jewall)
17 barry@coyote.datalog.com (Barry Mishkind)
18 bbx!yenta!karenm@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Karen Millar)
19 Benjamin Fan <AP006002@brownvm.brown.edu>
20 Beth.P.Krakower@Dartmouth.EDU
21 Bill.Blomgren@f326.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Blomgren)
22 biwi <buc29@iis.ethz.ch>
23 B.J. 01-Apr-1992 1105 <herbison@erlang.enet.dec.com>
24 bolero.ati.com!duncan (Jim Duncan)
25 bradford.ac.uk!R.A.Macgill
26 "Brandon Magee" <cuz@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
27 brownd@stolaf.edu (David H. Brown)
28 broy%spermy.hsc.usc.edu@usc.edu (Binayak Roy)
29 Bruce Klopfenstein<klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu>
30 Bruce 'Loodvrij' Keeler <csc228@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
31 BSCHLESINGER@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV
32 bst@wang.com (Bruce Tannenbaum)
33 "Carl P. Zwanzig" <zbang@access.digex.com>
34 Cedric Didier Baechler <cbaechle@iiic.ethz.ch>
35 cee@wshb.csms.com (Ed Evans - HBS/WSHB Sr Station Mgr)
36 cej@ccsitn.att.com (Charles E Jones)
37 chanson@gagme.chi.il.us (Chris Hanson)
38 Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
39 Chip (C.D.) Kelley <CHIPK@BNR.CA>
40 Chris Johnson <johnsonc@spot.Colorado.EDU>
41 ckp@cup.portal.com
42 cmaddox@imsa.edu
43 cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu
44 Coffeesaurus <agc@ukc.ac.uk>
45 courtney@aivru.sheffield.ac.uk (Patrick_Courtney)
46 "crash and burn." <U94_DBELSON@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
47 CRISP@WCUVAX3.WCU.EDU
48 cs00jmc@unccvax.uncc.edu (John Covington WN4BBJ)
49 cs201329@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs201329)
50 cumminje@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
51 "Curtis R. Anderson" <CRA@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
52 damian@wshb.csms.com (Damian Centgraf - WSHB Engineer)
53 Dan Faulkner <djf26675@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
54 Daniel Gulino danielm@tekgen.bv.tek.com
55 Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM
56 Darren Ingram <satnews@cix.compulink.co.uk>
57 Dave Ratcliffe <eds1!compnect!dave@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu>
58 davet@apd.mentorg.com (Dave Taffs)
59 David De Trolio <detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
60 David DeBry <ddebry@dsd.es.com>
61 "David L. Gants" <dlg8x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU>
62 David W. Barts <davidb@zeus.ce.washington.edu>
63 Davies P A <davipa@essex.ac.uk>
64 db@voa3.VOA.GOV (Dennis Brewer)
65 dean@xocolatl.com (Dean Dierschow)
66 Dennis Blyth <dblyth@oatseu.daytonoh.ncr.com>
67 Dennis G. Rears " <drears@pica.army.mil>
68 devmail!agahobuenh (Ken More )
69 devmail!agahobuenh@pegasus.att.com
70 dhina@rsl3eth1.cern.ch (Mourad Dhina)
71 dmarsh@computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
72 dmr@roadkill.Stanford.EDU (Daniel M. Rosenberg)
73 Doug Blair <blair@obdient.chi.il.us>
74 dpwo_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Wolgast)
75 duxbury@sfu.ca (Nancy Ann Duxbury)
76 eagle@NCoast.ORG (Greg Johns)
77 eb%watergate@lucid.com (Eric Benson)
78 Ed Wright <edw@sequent.com>
79 electro!carlo@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Carlo Sgro)
80 eoliveri@attmail.att.com (Edward F Oliveri)
81 Eric Funk <yag@eng.umd.edu>
82 Erica Roth <ST890020@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
83 exudjr@exu.ericsson.se (David Richard)
84 feit@ERA.COM (Mark Feit)
85 fitzpaul@Athena.MIT.EDU
86 Floyd Vest <FVEST@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU>
87 g803311@phys.nthu.edu.tw (Shang-Yung Wang (035)715131ext3289)
88 "Gary R. Smith KE9MI" <ST1860@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU>
89 gds@CS.UCLA.EDU (Greg Skinner)
90 genghis@uiuc.edu (Tim Elliott)
91 George.Wilson@p1.f230.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (George Wilson)
92 gilman@cshl.org
93 G.Marshall@ee.surrey.ac.uk
94 gpratt@attmail.att.com (Gary E Pratt)
95 Grace Seibert <graces@hpspdru.spd.hp.com>
96 gulino@ouvaxa.ucls.ohiou.edu
97 Harald Brinkmann <harry@cs.tu-berlin.de>
98 "Hardcore Alaskan" <FSSPR%ALASKA.ACAD3A.mrouter@acad3.alaska.edu>
99 harding@nas.nasa.gov (Stephen R. Harding)
100 haskin@cs.swarthmore.edu (Guy Haskin)
101 HAVANAMOON@cup.portal.com
102 hickok@hickok.cray.com (George Hickok ext 2621)
103 hofkin@Software.ORG (Bob Hofkin)
104 hunter@nlm.nih.gov (Larry Hunter)
105 I met Elvis + lived... <toney@u.washington.edu>
106 iadmr%msu.dnet@terra.oscs.montana.edu (Mark Rogstad)
107 ico.isc.com!rcw@scicom.alphacdc.com (Robert White)
108 igor@charles.ucdavis.edu (Frog's Experimental Account)
109 izm00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Israel Moskowitz)
110 J Paul Holbrook <holbrook@cic.net>
111 James "P.N." Vaughton <vaughton@tower-unix.city-poly.ac.uk>
112 jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
113 jdrout@skidmore.EDU (jonathan drout)
114 jeep@ihlpb.att.com (Maurice Smeets, Jr)
115 JESSON AS MR <ee01aj@surrey.ac.uk>
116 jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
117 jk3502@emunix.emich.edu (Jeffrey Kaplan )
118 Joel B Levin <levin@BBN.COM>
119 Joe_Moulins@mindlink.bc.ca (Joe Moulins)
120 "John DiLeo, CSB" <dileo@BRL.MIL>
121 John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
122 John Magnus Collins <d098@jupiter.Sun.CSD.unb.ca>
123 John Maraist <maraist@cs.tulane.edu>
124 jrd@gagme.chi.il.us (John R. Dennison)
125 "Julian Lorkin" <9LORKIN@WINVMJ.VNET.IBM.COM>
126 Justin Decheck <jd30+@andrew.cmu.edu>
127 Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
128 k083240@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Where did spring go?)
129 katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie)
130 "Kauto Huopio, OH5LFM" <Kauto.Huopio@lut.fi>
131 keating@manta.nosc.mil (Roger Keating)
132 kelly@Athena.MIT.EDU
133 Kenneth Suzan <kdsu_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
134 kscott@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Kristin Scott)
135 lagnaf@cs1.bradley.edu (Jeremy Styninger)
136 liuc@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Chia-Liang Liu)
137 Loren Omoto <73407.3110@CompuServe.COM>
138 Ludwig van Duane <detlev@Athena.MIT.EDU>
139 lunatix!acourt@ms.uky.edu
140 m15543@mitre.org (Steve Otruba)
141 mak5@PO.CWRU.EDU
142 malcolm@yuba.wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
143 mamros@athena.lkg.dec.com
144 marck@nwu.edu (Marck L. Bailey)
145 "Marianne Pierry" <marianne_pierry@pdxml1.mentorg.com>
146 marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com
147 "Mark C. Lawrence" <M.Lawrence@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
148 Mark Cox <M.J.H.Cox@bradford.ac.uk>
149 "Mark E. Bailey" <mebly@eng.umd.edu>
150 mark@attain.ICD.Teradyne.COM (Mark Guidotti)
151 Matteo Cardin 274008 <felipe@alessia.dei.unipd.it>
152 Matthew Ballantine <M.Ballantine@loughborough.ac.uk>
153 Matthew Lyle <matt@dbaix.oc.com>
154 "Maxime Taksar" <mmt%latour.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
155 mbn@hw1.cray.com (Mike Northam)
156 mbutts@cs.MENTORG.COM (Mike Butts)
157 nbc1.ge.com!stone (Anthony Stone)
158 mcdchg!motatl!gatech!pavnet.pcn.org!pep (Phil Pavarini Jr.)
159 mcg2@Lehigh.EDU (Marc Gabriel)
160 MDuPree@world.std.com
161 michael@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Michael of Nebadon)
162 Michael.Bender@Eng.Sun.COM
163 michael@ida.dsir.govt.nz (Michael Rygol)
164 MIENG01@csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU
165 mikeg@Athena.MIT.EDU
166 Mitch Kazel <KAZEL@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
167 monroesa@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
168 mward@legend.akron.oh.us (MIKE WARD)
169 news@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
170 nhg2453@dsachg1.dsac.dla.mil (Stephen Bashore)
171 nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.EDU (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
172 Nigel Wheatley <NW111@UK.AC.CAMBRIDGE.PHOENIX>
173 norris@Athena.MIT.EDU
174 Not Sure Who I Am <pdavis@turing.acs.Virginia.EDU>
175 Patton M. Turner <pturner@eng.auburn.edu>
176 Paul Stimpson <P.R.Stimpson@technology.thames.ac.uk>
177 pbaatech@peg.apc.org
178 pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard KA9WGN / I am the NRA)
179 "Peter A. Clausen" <pac@turing.acs.Virginia.EDU>
180 Peter Cherian Abraham <abrahp@rpi.edu>
181 POPLOG@csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU
182 pozar@kumr.lns.com (Tim Pozar)
183 rankin@mik.uky.edu
184 reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout)
185 rgainey@austin.onu.edu
186 ria@math.ufl.edu
187 "Richard Crowley, AL3-60, 503-642-6705" <CROWLEY@PTD.intel.com>
188 Richard Mee <R.D.Mee@loughborough.ac.uk>
189 richard@netcom.com (Richard O. Jones)
190 Rick Nimtz <Richard.D.Nimtz.1@nd.edu>
191 rko@cs.tut.fi (Risto Kotalampi)
192 rlink@acpub.duke.edu (Robert E. Link)
193 rogue%cs.utexas.edu (Dwight Everhart)
194 root@secondsource.COM (Admin)
195 RSL01@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
196 rsm@delfax.Amiga.OCunix.On.Ca (Rick Morrow)
197 Ryan Christian Nelson <rcnelson@icaen.uiowa.edu>
198 saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein)
199 SAMSAULS@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
200 Scott Fybush <ST901316@PIP.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU>
201 "Seth Klein" <seth_klein@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu>
202 "Seth Tisue" <tisu@midway.uchicago.edu>
203 Simon P Aulton <Simon.Aulton@brunel.ac.uk>
204 sjl@glensjl.glenbrook.com (Scott Loftesness)
205 spt@acsu.buffalo.edu (Scott P. Toenniessen)
206 ss@panix.com (Steve Steinberg)
207 Steve Bauer <seb@hpvcpsb.vcd.hp.com>
208 stuart@apollo.hp.com
209 STUWILKR%EKU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
210 The Gary Allen Show <adam@wam.umd.edu>
211 The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
212 THEY CALL ME RIGHTOUS <WMASON@AC.DAL.CA>
213 Thomas Lapp <thomas%mvac23.uucp@udel.edu>
214 Tim Myers <tmyers@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>
215 tkoppel@carl.org (Ted Koppel)
216 To make no mistakes - make no decisions <pierpont@snax.enet.dec.com>
217 toad@cellar.org
218 Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tom_limoncelli@uunet.UU.NET>
219 Tony Joines <tonyj@sco.COM>
220 topcat@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kelly Reese)
221 tosh!starta@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (John Starta)
222 U of E Radio <ure@essex.ac.uk>
223 uug@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (William Graham)
224 VANTTILA@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Veli-Matti Anttila)
225 wa2ise@cbnewsb.att.com (Robert F Casey)
226 "W.DEVONPORT" <W.Devonport@bradford.ac.uk>
227 weaver@sfc.Sony.COM (Eric Weaver)
228 WEOS-FM <BLACK%HWS1%HWS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
229 "WFFT - Radio, F M Operations" <XNSMGR@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>
230 wgreene@oldblev.lonestar.org (Wayne Greene)
231 What's with the 3 watches? <harley@gotit.shr.dec.com>
232 YO-YO MAN <UN037513@WVNVAXA.WVNET.EDU>
233 Zimri Smith <ST701790@brownvm.brown.edu>
234 zygot.ati.com!john (John Higdon)
These people votes no;
1 V. Balaji" <balaji@nexus.yorku.ca>
2 atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
3 baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (LT J.D. Baldwin)
4 bongo.info.com!julian (Julian Macassey)
5 brspyr1.brs.com!schwartz (David Schwartz)
6 "byrns-j" <byrns-j@gamma.corp.mot.com>
7 cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney)
8 Clayton Glad <glad@csli.stanford.edu>
9 cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
10 David L. Wilson <dwilson@s850.mwc.edu>
11 <ebm@almaden.ibm.com> (Eli Messinger)
12 edwardp@cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz)
13 evan@fsg.com (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.])
14 "Gary D. Archer" <archer@vnet.ibm.com>
15 gt4503e@prism.gatech.edu (Tracy K. Wood/KD0UP)
16 Jay Maynard <jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu>
17 John Peng-Yung Cheng <jpc7r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU>
18 JOSHUA HOSSEINOFF <EAW7100@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU>
19 "Kenton A. Hoover" <shibumi@turbo.bio.net>
20 krauss@penelope.Oswego.EDU (John E.Krauss)
21 mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (mehta)
22 palmer@hsi86.hsi.com (Mike Palmer)
23 ralph@mtunp.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
24 rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
25 <roberts@triton.unm.edu>
26 Rodney Chen <rchen@warren.arc.nasa.gov>
27 shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu ("Duckie" Shiau)
28 snielsen@computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
29 sv001.sandiego.ncr.com!kevin (Kevin Sanders 3602)
30 Timothy VanFosson <timv@ccad.uiowa.edu>
31 Tom Fitzgerald <fitz@wang.com>
32 tommyo@stud.cs.uit.no (Tommy Olsen)
33 tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
34 Vince Mehringer <vince@eye.com>
After the 5 day waiting period, baring and 'serious' objection,
rec.radio.broadcasting should be newgrouped and appear at your site.
If your site does not carry rec.* groups, contact me for information
on direct posting, and possible e-mail distribution.
My e-mail address is wdp@airwaves.chi.il.us (William Pfeiffer)
Thanks to all who participated.
William
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Subject: RFD: rec.radio.broadcasting
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This is a call for discussion on the creation of a new Usenet newsgroup,
tentitively entitled rec.radio.broadcasting. I am proposing that this
newsgroup be moderated, and barring any serious objection, I am offering
my time and energy to BE that moderator.
As the 'statement of charter' indicates, I believe that a group of this
type is needed on Usenet because there is no current newsgroup dealing
with the general subject of radio broadcasting. Yet radio is, arguably,
the most consumed of all mass media, in terms of actual person/hours
of exposure. People listen to radio in their cars, in their offices,
while jogging, dining, reading, getting ready for work, commuting,
and just about any other conceivable activity. Radio shapes our opinions,
perceptions, musical tastes, and (hopefully) stimulates our imagination.
For these reasons, and others, I propose the creation of this newsgroup.
I suggest a 'moderated' format, for these reasons.
1) A properly moderated group generally produces a more concise and
cohesive product w/less "net-clutter" and a higher signal/noise ratio.
2) If the moderator is knowledgable in the subject matter covered in
the newsgroup, s/he can be of assistance in responding to questions
posed to the group which might, otherwise, go un-answered.
3) Moderation of a newsgroup means different things to differnet people.
My concept of moderation is simply to act as a buffer, weeding out
test messages, repetitive, abusive or 'grossly off topic' messages,
and to re-direct misplaced articles to appropriate newsgroups, where
possible.
I am an experienced broadcaster, and have had an avid interest in the
medium since early childhood. I would consider moderating this group
an honor and a pleasure, because of my respect for the medium, and the
people in it. Plus, I have time and willingness to dedicate to such a
project.
The tentitive name of 'rec.radio.broadcasting' (r.r.b) is, of course, open
to change if a better title can be created. While the charter of the
group suggests potential topics which are not specifically recreational,
I tend to feel that 'rec' might be the be the most appropriate heading since
the only other Usenet group dealing with domestic broadcast radio
(rec.radio.noncomm) uses this heading and therefore r.r.b would be
a good companion group.
I considered the name 'talk.radio.broadcasting', but felt there might
be a misunderstanding that the group was centered around the 'talk radio'
format. Perhaps something like 'talk.broadcasting.radio' might be
a good alternative, but that will be determined by you folks
"out there in Usenet-land" :), assuming that the process gets that far.
I do not envision r.r.b to be a replacement for any other newsgroup,
including rec.radio.noncomm. The latter group's focus is on a specific
genre of radio and therfore I feel the two groups would compliment,
rather than compete with, one another.
****** Statement of charter; rec.radio.broadcasting. *********
Rec.radio.broadcasting (r.r.b) will be for discussion of a wide variety of
subjects pertaining to the general arena of entertainment/information
radio. While not specifically limited to North American broadcasting,
r.r.b will avoid dealing with international (shortwave) broadcasts
because this topic is already being handled in rec.radio.shortwave.
Valid subjects for discussion might include (but not be limited to);
1) Programming and formats
2) Technical and engineering matters
3) Concerns of smaller market stations
4) Innovations and legislation affecting the medium
(and those attempting to enter it)
5) Radio's historical & cultural significance
6) Radio news coverage and it's impact on our nation and our world.
7) Audience input and ideas for improving the state of radio broadcasting.
Since rec.radio.noncommercial is the only Usenet group pertaining to
domestic broadcast radio, r.r.b would provide a forum for those
individuals who's interest in the medium is not limited to the
non-commercial arena. I believe this group would be of great
interest to Usenet participants because ...
1) Everybody listens to, and is affected by, radio broadcasting. It
is the only mass media in which one can fully participate, while
engaged in another activity.
2) Colleges and universities currently train, and graduate, thousands of
potential radio professionals every year. These individuals would
be very likely to participate in such a forum to discuss and compare
notes on their chosen field of endeavor.
3) The face of radio is always changing. Satellite feeds, automation,
and other influences are molding the future of the medium. This
newsgroup would be a link between interested parties from all corners
of the industry, keeping one-another up to date on the latest trends
impacting radio broadcasting in America an beyond.
********************** End Of Statement Of Charter *********************
I welcome your comments and suggestions. If all goes reasonably well
I will be putting out a 'Call For Votes' in about a month and hopefully
the Usenet community will agree that such a group would be a valuable
addition to it's heirarchy. Since this is not a proposal for 'splitting'
an existing newsgroup, but rather for the creation of a group to fill
a 'vacancy', I hope you will seriously consider a positive response to
this proposal even if you, yourself, are not particularily involved
or interested in broadcasting. Such a group could only augment the
already diverse spectrum of Usenet newsgroups.
Feel encouraged to post responses to news.groups, and/or to e-mail me
directly at the following address.
wdp@gagme.chi.il.us
send c.c. to..
wdp@chinet.chi.il.us
Thank you.
William D. Pfeiffer
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