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From ckd@eff.org Fri Aug 28 15:38:45 1992
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Subject: RFD: rec.travel.marketplace
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NAME: rec.travel.marketplace

CHARTER:

This group is for forsale and wanted postings for travel tickets,
accomodations, discount coupons, and the like.

Rationale:

"Ticket for sale" has been a distinct category of rec.travel.air
postings, and, as such, has been considered by some to be a category
they don't want to read *all the time*.  Therefore, much as the
comp.sys.*.marketplace groups have been formed to separate the traffic,
it has been suggested that a rec.travel.marketplace also be formed.

RFD duration:

This Request For Discussion will run through September 17, 1992.  At
that point, either a Call For Votes will be put forward or it won't.

Further Discussion:

All further discussion on this proposal should go to news.groups, rather
than rec.travel and/or rec.travel.air.
-- 
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master

From hrose@eff.org Mon Sep 28 22:25:27 1992
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From: Helen Trillian Rose <hrose@eff.org>
Subject: CFV: rec.travel.marketplace
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Charter: This unmoderated group is for forsale and wanted postings for
travel tickets, accomodations, discount coupons, and the like.

Voting Instructions:

Votes should be sent via email. Only votes mailed to the proper
addresses shall be counted. Votes which are posted or mailed to an
invalid address will be voided. In the case of vote changes, the *LAST*
vote sent by an individual will be counted, and previous votes will be
rendered null and void. 

Voting will conclude at midnight Eastern October 28, 1992.

YES votes should be sent to:    rtm-yes@eff.org
NO votes should be sent to:     rtm-no@eff.org

--Helen
-- 
Helen Trillian Rose             	<hrose@eff.org, hrose@kei.com>
Electronic Frontier Foundation   	email eff@eff.org for EFF Info
Kapor Enterprises, Inc.                 Flames to: 
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From hrose@eff.org Thu Oct 15 13:11:59 1992
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From: Helen Trillian Rose <hrose@eff.org>
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.travel.marketplace
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Charter: This group is for forsale and wanted postings for travel
tickets, accomodations, discount coupons, and the like.

Voting Instructions:

Votes should be sent via email. Only votes mailed to the proper
addresses shall be counted. Votes which are posted or mailed to an
invalid address will be voided. In the case of vote changes, the *LAST*
vote sent by an individual will be counted, and previous votes will be
rendered null and void. 

Voting will conclude at midnight Eastern October 28, 1992.

YES votes should be sent to:    rtm-yes@eff.org
NO votes should be sent to:     rtm-no@eff.org

Those whom have already voted:

"(Ernst Niebur)" <niebur@di.epfl.ch>
"Bill Rubin" <rubin@watson.ibm.com>
"Cole Kendall" <U48073@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
"Dave V. Schaller" <schaller@hsi.com>
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" <CROSON@HUSC15.HARVARD.EDU>
"David J. Murphy" <djmurphy@eng.umd.edu>
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
"Eric J. Splaver"  <ERIC@hup.ucla.edu>
"Khee Chan, SSL/ESOC at JPL, ULYSSES Flight Dynamics" <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
"Laura Kramer" <Laura.Kramer@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
"Matti Suokko (OH5MRM)" <ms86817@cs.tut.fi>
"Moshe E. Rappoport   tel +41 1 7248 424" <mer@zurich.ibm.com>
"Patrick LEROY (Bull Worldwide Information Systems)" <PLEROY@us.oracle.com>
"Paul W. Nikkel" <pwnikkel@steam.uwaterloo.ca>
90198405@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Alister McDonald)
<Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu>
Aaron Roydhouse <Aaron.Roydhouse@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@lise.unit.no>
Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Ben Davis <bdavis@ncratl.atlantaga.ncr.com>
Ben Yalow <YBMCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Brian Kenney <kenney@saturn.hsi.com>
Charles Shub <cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu>
Dark Elf <9029699@ul.ie>
David Murphy <djmurphy@wam.umd.edu>
David.Tahajian@east.sun.com (David Tahajian - Sun BOS Software)
Ed.Miller@corp.sun.com (Ed Miller)
Gary G. Cannon <cannon@dsd.es.com>
Glenn Host <ghost@openage.com>
Inna Lauris <inna@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
J Robert Dobbs  Esq. <jrdobbs@u.washington.edu>
Jim Ault <aultj@rpi.edu>
Joe Konstan <konstan@cs.umn.edu>
John Wilcock  29-Sep-1992 1456 <"bigbos::wilcock"@frmrc.enet.dec.com>
Jonathan Lin <jwlin@soda.berkeley.edu>
Jorg Forster <forster@computing-science.aberdeen.ac.uk>
Karl Swartz <kls@ohare.chicago.com>
Kevin Junck <junck@okra.fnal.gov>
Kurt Thearling <kurt@Think.COM>
Lisa Sieverts <sievertl@hpcc92.corp.hp.com>
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
Marc Takeno <takenomm@u.washington.edu>
Nancy Linn <nlinn@psych.uiuc.edu>
Nick Noble <NRNOBLE@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
R1DBS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Rick_Kovalcik@vos.stratus.com
Rob Knauerhase <knauer@cs.uiuc.edu>
Roland Schock <schock@rds.sta.sub.org>
Samuel C. Wait Jr <waitsc@rpi.edu>
Steve Dakin <steve@oceania.com>
Stupendous Man <BKOTTMANN@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL>
Susan Carlson <carlsons@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu>
Tim Chambers <tbc@col.hp.com>
VHARS%CCSTAT@mc.duke.edu
Windsor A. Morgan <wmorgan@stsci.edu>
ag519@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathon Lin)
al198723@next14.mty.itesm.mx
aldr@lab2.phys.lgu.spb.su (Alexey I. Drachev)
asif@aat.async.vt.edu
ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet)
bahadir guler <E62095@TRMETU.BITNET>
baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
barr@ash.mmm.ucar.EDU (Keith Barr)
bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier)
bu251@cleveland.freenet.edu (Jonathan W. Lin)
charleen@ads.com (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
chris@jupiter.fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki)
cjs01@cd.amdahl.com (Chris Somers)
cvl0%sun@gte.com (Carol Lafond)
davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
debeijer@cs.UCSD.EDU
douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis)
dziuk@hsi.com (Ronald V. Dziuk Jr.)
efs@summa4.mv.com (Ed Sinamark)
emcguire@mama3.intellection.com
erik@tera.com (Erik Hedberg)
eriko@idt.unit.no
ernst@cns.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur)
erwin@bend.UCSD.EDU (Sean Erwin)
fenwick@w0x0f.clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick)
flowers@delphi.bio.caltech.edu (Dave Flowers)
giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
groy@nlm.nih.gov (Gautam Roy)
henry@ads.com (Henry Mensch)
ids-bo@garnet.berkeley.edu
jap@cb1focus.att.com
jaslow@Kodak.COM (Russell Jaslow)
jeffw@swindle.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Wallace)
jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson)
jsw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (jsw)
klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen)
kmeyer@aero.org
ksantos@godzilla.ma30.bull.com (Kathy Santos)
ksh@mayo.EDU (Kerrie Holton)
linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill)
matwood%bullion@cs.utah.edu
mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus)
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU
mie@faline.bellcore.com (Martin I. Eiger)
nulspace@cs.UMD.EDU (Michael Chang)
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens)
pan@lurch.stanford.edu (Doug Pan)
par@teak.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee)
parabosc@eclipse.Stanford.EDU (Stefano Paraboschi)
pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos)
paul@popcbr.ROCKEFELLER.EDU (Paul Alukal)
pc@thumper.bellcore.com (Peter Clitherow)
pedregal%unreal@cs.umass.edu
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
ply24@cas.org (Pat Yontz (ext. 2562, ply24))
pseudo!mjn@igc.UUCP (Murray Nesbitt)
reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux)
reiter@aisb.edinburgh.ac.uk
rgl@crosfield.co.uk (Robert Lawless)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rnewman@BBN.COM
ron@osf.org
ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman)
ruppen@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Andy Ruppenstein)
sandy@library.calpoly.edu (Sandra Beck)
sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Duckie Shiau)
simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
sribala@leland.stanford.edu
steffen koehler <skoehler@tangelo.usc.edu>
stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve X. Portigal)
sunsrv!markj!etak@fernwood.mpk.ca.us
thomas@asl.dl.nec.com (Kevin Thomas)
tkoppel%server@carl.org (Ted Koppel)
tom@igs.com (Tom Nelson)
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)

From hrose@eff.org Mon Nov  2 15:42:28 1992
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From: Helen Trillian Rose <hrose@eff.org>
Subject: RESULT: rec.travel.marketplace passes 140:39
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The final vote count was 140 (YES) - 39 (NO).

The group will be created after the usual five day waiting period. 

A duplicate NO vote was received from al198723@next00.mty.itesm.mx,
duplicating a NO vote from al198723@next14.mty.itesm.mx. The duplicate
was discarded. 

A duplicate NO vote was also received from
baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin). The duplicate was
discarded.

Duplicate YES votes were received from: 
futtrup@daimi.aau.dk
sribala@leland.stanford.edu

The duplicates were discarded.

NO votes:
"Dave V. Schaller" <schaller@hsi.com>
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
"Laura Kramer" <Laura.Kramer@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
"Peter A. Olenick" <Q0239@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
Andy Lipscomb <LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>
Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@lise.unit.no>
Brian Kenney <kenney@saturn.hsi.com>
Dark Elf <9029699@ul.ie>
Geoffrey.V.Bronner@Dartmouth.EDU
Glenn Host <ghost@openage.com>
Jonathan Lin <jwlin@soda.berkeley.edu>
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
Nancy Linn <nlinn@psych.uiuc.edu>
Rob Knauerhase <knauer@cs.uiuc.edu>
Stupendous Man <BKOTTMANN@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL>
ag519@yfn.ysu.edu (Jonathon Lin)
al198723@next14.mty.itesm.mx
ask@cblph.att.com (Arthur S Kamlet)
baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
bu251@cleveland.freenet.edu (Jonathan W. Lin)
chris@jupiter.fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki)
cjs01@cd.amdahl.com (Chris Somers)
davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
dziuk@hsi.com (Ronald V. Dziuk Jr.)
emcguire@mama3.intellection.com
ids-bo@garnet.berkeley.edu
kmeyer@aero.org
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU
msakai@cc.brynmawr.edu (Sakai Makiko)
nulspace@cs.UMD.EDU (Michael Chang)
owens@cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu (Bill Owens)
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce)
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
pseudo!mjn@igc.UUCP (Murray Nesbitt)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Duckie Shiau)
sp0mikpa@caligula.his.se (Mikael Parknert)
tkoppel%server@carl.org (Ted Koppel)


YES votes:
"(Ernst Niebur)" <niebur@di.epfl.ch>
"Bill Rubin" <rubin@watson.ibm.com>
"Cole Kendall" <U48073@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" <CROSON@HUSC15.HARVARD.EDU>
"David J. Murphy" <djmurphy@eng.umd.edu>
"Eric J. Splaver"  <ERIC@hup.ucla.edu>
"Khee Chan, SSL/ESOC at JPL, ULYSSES Flight Dynamics" <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
"Matti Suokko (OH5MRM)" <ms86817@cs.tut.fi>
"Moshe E. Rappoport   tel +41 1 7248 424" <mer@zurich.ibm.com>
"Patrick LEROY (Bull Worldwide Information Systems)" <PLEROY@us.oracle.com>
"Paul W. Nikkel" <pwnikkel@steam.uwaterloo.ca>
90198405@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Alister McDonald)
<Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu>
Aaron Roydhouse <Aaron.Roydhouse@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
Aron Eisenpress <AFECU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Ben Davis <bdavis@ncratl.atlantaga.ncr.com>
Ben Yalow <YBMCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
CHORLEY@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Charles Shub <cdash@moet.cs.colorado.edu>
Christopher Davis <ckd>
David Murphy <djmurphy@wam.umd.edu>
David.Tahajian@east.sun.com (David Tahajian - Sun BOS Software)
Ed.Miller@corp.sun.com (Ed Miller)
Edwin Slonim <Edwin_Slonim@ccm.hf.intel.com>
Elizabeth Schwartz <betsys@ra.cs.umb.edu>
Ernest Blaschke <ernest.blaschke@canrem.com>
Gary G. Cannon <cannon@dsd.es.com>
Inna Lauris <inna@hpindda.cup.hp.com>
J Robert Dobbs  Esq. <jrdobbs@u.washington.edu>
Janice Price <jprice@dpw.com>
Jim Ault <aultj@rpi.edu>
Joan Pache <jpache@sun14.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca>
Joe Konstan <konstan@cs.umn.edu>
John Wilcock  29-Sep-1992 1456 <"bigbos::wilcock"@frmrc.enet.dec.com>
Jorg Forster <forster@computing-science.aberdeen.ac.uk>
Justine Comer <jcomer@cac.washington.edu>
Karl Swartz <kls@ohare.chicago.com>
Ken Staggers <staggers@hposl42.cup.hp.com>
Kevin Junck <junck@okra.fnal.gov>
Kurt Thearling <kurt@Think.COM>
Laura Kirk de Leon <deleon@hplmango.hpl.hp.com>
Leo J. Hetling <hetlil@rpi.edu>
Lisa Sieverts <sievertl@hpcc92.corp.hp.com>
Marc Takeno <takenomm@u.washington.edu>
Mary P. Luczak  <mpluczak@crdec7.apgea.army.mil>
Michael Panayiotakis <louray@seas.gwu.edu>
Michael Weiss <weiss@SEAS.UCLA.EDU>
Nick Noble <NRNOBLE@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Pham Phan <pphan@hpldsla.sid.hp.com>
R1DBS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Rick_Kovalcik@vos.stratus.com
Roland Schock <schock@rds.sta.sub.org>
Samuel C. Wait Jr <waitsc@rpi.edu>
Simon Breeze <sb4@doc.imperial.ac.uk>
Steve Dakin <steve@oceania.com>
Susan Carlson <carlsons@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu>
Tim Chambers <tbc@col.hp.com>
Tony Heatwole <HEATWOLE@LANDO.HNS.COM>
VHARS%CCSTAT@mc.duke.edu
Victor A. Carreno <vac@air16.larc.nasa.gov>
Windsor A. Morgan <wmorgan@stsci.edu>
aldr@lab2.phys.lgu.spb.su (Alexey I. Drachev)
asif@aat.async.vt.edu
bahadir guler <E62095@TRMETU.BITNET>
barr@ash.mmm.ucar.EDU (Keith Barr)
bglazier@buffalo.asd.sgi.com (Bill Glazier)
bgt@goofy.att.com
charleen@ads.com (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
cvl0%sun@gte.com (Carol Lafond)
debeijer@cs.UCSD.EDU
dev@ecn.purdue.edu (Larry Weeks)
dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb)
douglis@MITL.COM (Fred Douglis)
durham@mprgate.mpr.ca (Paul Durham)
efs@summa4.mv.com (Ed Sinamark)
erik@tera.com (Erik Hedberg)
eriko@idt.unit.no
ernst@cns.caltech.edu (Ernst Niebur)
erwin@bend.UCSD.EDU (Sean Erwin)
fenwick@w0x0f.clipper.ingr.com (Stephen Fenwick)
flowers@delphi.bio.caltech.edu (Dave Flowers)
futtrup@daimi.aau.dk
giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
groy@nlm.nih.gov (Gautam Roy)
henry@ads.com (Henry Mensch)
howard@hal.com (Howard Gayle)
iak@child.msk.su (Igor Kostarnov)
ilana@niwot.scd.ucar.EDU (Ilana Stern)
jap@cb1focus.att.com
jaslow@Kodak.COM (Russell Jaslow)
jeffw@swindle.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Wallace)
jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson)
jordan@imsi.com (Jordan Hayes)
jsw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (jsw)
kchou@sti.com (Kathryn Chou)
klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen)
kornerup@cs.utexas.edu (Jacob Kornerup)
ksantos@godzilla.ma30.bull.com (Kathy Santos)
ksh@mayo.EDU (Kerrie Holton)
linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill)
loreen@raider.sandiego.ncr.com
matwood%bullion@cs.utah.edu
mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus)
mie@faline.bellcore.com (Martin I. Eiger)
murthy@ssd.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy)
nick.waanders@med.umich.edu (Nick Waanders)
nigam@pandora.mitre.org (Alok C. Nigam)
pan@lurch.stanford.edu (Doug Pan)
par@teak.cray.com (Peter Rigsbee)
parabosc@eclipse.Stanford.EDU (Stefano Paraboschi)
pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos)
paul@popcbr.ROCKEFELLER.EDU (Paul Alukal)
pc@thumper.bellcore.com (Peter Clitherow)
pedregal%unreal@cs.umass.edu
percus@lpncls.in2p3.fr (Allon Percus)
ply24@cas.org (Pat Yontz (ext. 2562, ply24))
prabhag@wilkins.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Prabha Ganapathy)
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
reb@ingres.com (Phydeaux)
reiter@aisb.edinburgh.ac.uk
rgl@crosfield.co.uk (Robert Lawless)
rnewman@BBN.COM
ron@osf.org
root@ccs.sogang.ac.kr (Sogang University Seoul Korea ccs)
ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman)
ruppen@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Andy Ruppenstein)
sandy@library.calpoly.edu (Sandra Beck)
sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
sribala@leland.stanford.edu
steffen koehler <skoehler@tangelo.usc.edu>
stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve X. Portigal)
sunsrv!markj!etak@fernwood.mpk.ca.us
thomas@asl.dl.nec.com (Kevin Thomas)
tom@igs.com (Tom Nelson)
toms@ichips.intel.com
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
yono@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Suryono Adisoemarta)

 
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