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From rdd@cactus.org Wed Feb 16 14:49:39 1994
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From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
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Subject: RFD: sci.aeronautics.simulation
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This is a formal request for discussion for a proposed new newsgroup:
sci.aeronautics.simulation
The newsgroup is proposed in response to a number of factors:
- The high degree of interest in simulation technology expressed in a variety
of newsgroups, including: sci.aeronautics, sci.military, rec.aviation,
rec.aviation.simulators, and comp.simulation. While most of this interest
is casual, the occasional technical post appears, in desperate search of
a home. This traffic is characterized by aerospace applications, rather
than the more general, academic material on comp.simulation.
- The high degree of technical interest in simulation technology, recently,
on sci.aeronautics. Which led the moderator, Mary Shafer, to suggest an
RFD.
- The fact that with modern microcomputers, the implementation of very
thorough, advanced flight models are both feasible and widely accessible.
Flight simulation technology is no longer the exclusive province of
government researchers or well-funded corporations. Simulation courses are
now part of the curricula of many undergraduate aerospace programs. Desktop
simulation is an emerging issue in aerospace, with a wide range of
applications, from aircraft design and evaluation to aircrew training.
- The need for a forum to coordinate the standardization of data formats.
Currently, most data formats are highly proprietary, and quite diverse.
Standards are under consideration, and such a forum could serve as a
sounding-board for RFC's and the like.
- Lastly, the very interesting potential for hybrid technology to develop,
with the combination of motivated people with CS backgrounds on the net,
combined with the knowledge and expertise of the many people from the
aerospace sector. Besides the specific topic--flight simulation--the
group is also of interest to those with EE and ME backgrounds, seeking
realistic, complex applications to test control theories.
Therefore, the simulation newsgroup is intended to address the issues per-
taining to atmospheric and low-orbital flight simulation. In particular,
the gamut of implementation issues, including algorithms, flight modeling,
parameter estimation, data gathering, and construction.
The group will explicitly NOT be concerned with issues relating to the
validation of retail software, nor the myriad user debates on retail
features. Two newsgroups, rec.aviation.simulators and comp.sys.mac.ibm.pc.
flight-sim provide adequate environments for this type of discussion.
Rec.aviation.simulators, moreover, provides a home for discussions relating
to the applicability of desktop simulators to general aviation flight
training.
Rather, the group is intended for those who wish to create simulators, both
research and commercial, and is intended to address the unique questions
that such implementors face. Hence the name choice of *simulation*, rather
than *simulators*: the technique, rather than examples.
How would this differ from sci.aeronautics? In general, the issue is one
of modeling: aeronautics is a broad discipline, primarily concerned with
physical processes. Simulation is concerned with the modeling of that reality,
using both actual flight-test data *and* estimated data. For the amateur
or poorly connected practitioner, the acquisition of such data and the use
of such data provide particularly stiff challenges. Especially inasmuch as
such data acquisition is not only concerned with aerodynamics, but can also
pertain to a considerable number of environmental factors--thus the problem
can be more complex than "regular" aerodynamics, where nature provides a very
high-fidelity physical environment.
Since, however, there is potential for overlap, the group is proposed as
moderated, with myself as moderator. The responsibility of the moderator
would be to work with the moderators of sci.aero and sci.aero.airliners, and
mainly keep things "on course," filtering out non-relevant messages and keep-
ing the flames to a minimum.
The discussion period will last for 30 days. At the end of this period,
depending upon response, a formal charter will be framed and a call-for-votes
issued.
--
Robert Dorsett
rdd@cactus.org
...cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!rdd
From rdd@netcom.com Wed May 11 15:01:45 1994
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From: rdd@netcom.com (Robert Dorsett)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.aeronautics.simulation moderated
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This is a repeat RFD for sci.aeronautics.simulation. The original RFD was
issued in mid-February. User comments were uniformly positive. However,
an unstable machine and a dirty phone line precluded my pursuing the vote:
those problems have been rectified.
The following is an exact repeat of the original RFD. With David
Lawrence's approval, this RFD period will last ten days; it is mainly a
"refresher."
------------------------------
The newsgroup is proposed in response to a number of factors:
- The high degree of interest in simulation technology expressed in a variety
of newsgroups, including: sci.aeronautics, sci.military, rec.aviation,
rec.aviation.simulators, and comp.simulation. While most of this interest
is casual, the occasional technical post appears, in desperate search of
a home. This traffic is characterized by aerospace applications, rather
than the more general, academic material on comp.simulation.
- The high degree of technical interest in simulation technology, recently,
on sci.aeronautics. Which led the moderator, Mary Shafer, to suggest an
RFD.
- The fact that with modern microcomputers, the implementation of very
thorough, advanced flight models are both feasible and widely accessible.
Flight simulation technology is no longer the exclusive province of
government researchers or well-funded corporations. Simulation courses are
now part of the curricula of many undergraduate aerospace programs. Desktop
simulation is an emerging issue in aerospace, with a wide range of
applications, from aircraft design and evaluation to aircrew training.
- The need for a forum to coordinate the standardization of data formats.
Currently, most data formats are highly proprietary, and quite diverse.
Standards are under consideration, and such a forum could serve as a
sounding-board for RFC's and the like.
- Lastly, the very interesting potential for hybrid technology to develop,
with the combination of motivated people with CS backgrounds on the net,
combined with the knowledge and expertise of the many people from the
aerospace sector. Besides the specific topic--flight simulation--the
group is also of interest to those with EE and ME backgrounds, seeking
realistic, complex applications to test control theories.
Therefore, the simulation newsgroup is intended to address the issues per-
taining to atmospheric and low-orbital flight simulation. In particular,
the gamut of implementation issues, including algorithms, flight modeling,
parameter estimation, data gathering, and construction.
The group will explicitly NOT be concerned with issues relating to the
validation of retail software, nor the myriad user debates on retail
features. Two newsgroups, rec.aviation.simulators and comp.sys.ibm.pc.
flight-sim provide adequate environments for this type of discussion.
Rec.aviation.simulators, moreover, provides a home for discussions relating
to the applicability of desktop simulators to general aviation flight
training.
Rather, the group is intended for those who wish to create simulators, both
research and commercial, and is intended to address the unique questions
that such implementors face. Hence the name choice of *simulation*, rather
than *simulators*: the technique, rather than examples.
How would this differ from sci.aeronautics? In general, the issue is one
of modeling: aeronautics is a broad discipline, primarily concerned with
physical processes. Simulation is concerned with the modeling of that reality,
using both actual flight-test data *and* estimated data. For the amateur
or poorly connected practitioner, the acquisition of such data and the use
of such data provide particularly stiff challenges. Especially inasmuch as
such data acquisition is not only concerned with aerodynamics, but can also
pertain to a considerable number of environmental factors--thus the problem
can be more complex than "regular" aerodynamics, where nature provides a very
high-fidelity physical environment.
Since, however, there is potential for overlap, the group is proposed as
moderated, with myself as moderator. The responsibility of the moderator
would be to work with the moderators of sci.aero and sci.aero.airliners, and
mainly keep things "on course," filtering out non-relevant messages and keep-
ing the flames to a minimum.
The discussion period will last for 10 days. At the end of this period,
depending upon response, a formal charter will be framed and a call-for-votes
issued.
--
Robert Dorsett
rdd@netcom.com
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Thu Jun 9 18:05:55 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: sci.aeronautics.simulation moderated
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
moderated group sci.aeronautics.simulation
Newsgroups line:
sci.aeronautics.simulation Aerospace simulation technology. (Moderated)
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Jun 1994.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Robert Dorsett <rdd@rascal.ics.utexas.edu>.
CHARTER
A moderated discussion group dealing with the implementation of flight and
systems models on computers. This includes, but is not restricted to:
- the definition of such models
- acquisition and modeling of flight parameters
- design and implementation of onboard systems models
- design and implementation of powerplant models
- standardization of commonly required data, such as flight
parameter databases, navaid databases, etc.
- design of cab-based implementations of flight simulators
The newsgroup will be moderated by Robert Dorsett, rdd@netcom.com.
The contact address will be aero-simulation@rascal.ics.utexas.edu,
requests to aero-simulation-request@rascal.ics.utexas.edu.
Notes
-----
There is a close relationship between this group and sci.aeronautics:
however, simulation requires more than simply implementing physical
equations, and this group will strive to address the specific issues
that implementors must face. The group is offered as moderated to
keep it on track, and to try to avoid thread mutation into topics that
might belong on other groups. It should also help stop commercial
direct-marketers, who post to inappropriate groups, selling everything
>from hand cream to visa applications.
I will work in concert with the moderators of sci.aeronautics (Mary
Shafer) and sci.aeronautics.airliners (Karl Swartz) to control the
topical focus of relevant articles.
What the group is not about
---------------------------
- Generic simulation issues (handled by comp.simulation)
- Validating games (rec.aviation.simulators, comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim)
- Using flight games
History of the proposal
-----------------------
The RFD was issued in early February, after the moderator of
sci.aeronautics noted the high incidence of posts dealing with
simulation issues. I had also noticed a number of highly technical
queries appearing on rec.aviation.simulators, without any follow-ups.
The RFD produced a large number of very positive responses from people
active in all segments of the industry, ranging from the airframe
manufacturers to the simulator manufacturers to aerospace departments
to government researchers to game designers.
Due to a pesky phone line, the vote was delayed; after the problems
were fixed, a second RFD was issued in May, which similarly had a good
response.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on sci.aeronautics.simulation
I vote NO on sci.aeronautics.simulation
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Tue Jul 12 15:05:40 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: sci.aeronautics.simulation moderated passes 193:11
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RESULT
moderated group sci.aeronautics.simulation passes 193:11
There were 193 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 204 valid votes.
There were 2 abstains and 1 invalid ballot.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
sci.aeronautics.simulation Aerospace simulation technology. (Moderated)
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Robert Dorsett <rdd@rascal.ics.utexas.edu>.
CHARTER
A moderated discussion group dealing with the implementation of flight and
systems models on computers. This includes, but is not restricted to:
- the definition of such models
- acquisition and modeling of flight parameters
- design and implementation of onboard systems models
- design and implementation of powerplant models
- standardization of commonly required data, such as flight
parameter databases, navaid databases, etc.
- design of cab-based implementations of flight simulators
The newsgroup will be moderated by Robert Dorsett, rdd@netcom.com.
The contact address will be aero-simulation@rascal.ics.utexas.edu,
requests to aero-simulation-request@rascal.ics.utexas.edu.
Notes
-----
There is a close relationship between this group and sci.aeronautics:
however, simulation requires more than simply implementing physical
equations, and this group will strive to address the specific issues
that implementors must face. The group is offered as moderated to
keep it on track, and to try to avoid thread mutation into topics that
might belong on other groups. It should also help stop commercial
direct-marketers, who post to inappropriate groups, selling everything
>from hand cream to visa applications.
I will work in concert with the moderators of sci.aeronautics (Mary
Shafer) and sci.aeronautics.airliners (Karl Swartz) to control the
topical focus of relevant articles.
What the group is not about
---------------------------
- Generic simulation issues (handled by comp.simulation)
- Validating games (rec.aviation.simulators, comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim)
- Using flight games
History of the proposal
-----------------------
The RFD was issued in early February, after the moderator of
sci.aeronautics noted the high incidence of posts dealing with
simulation issues. I had also noticed a number of highly technical
queries appearing on rec.aviation.simulators, without any follow-ups.
The RFD produced a large number of very positive responses from people
active in all segments of the industry, ranging from the airframe
manufacturers to the simulator manufacturers to aerospace departments
to government researchers to game designers.
Due to a pesky phone line, the vote was delayed; after the problems
were fixed, a second RFD was issued in May, which similarly had a good
response.
sci.aeronautics.simulation Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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p00164@psilink.com Perry Geib
p01613@psilink.com phil reed
padraig@slab.pr.erau.edu Padraig Houlahan
PALMERDR@melb1.australia.msnet.bp.com Palmer,David,DR
palmerm@CERF.NET L. Merrill Palmer
panisset@cim.mcgill.ca Jean-Francois Panisset
PAUL@TDR.COM Paul Robinson
pdb1@Ra.MsState.Edu Philip D Bridges
pekinpau@rose.rsoc.rockwell.com Pat Pekinpaugh
pera@elkraft.unit.no
pi@ruth.ece.jhu.edu Pablo A. Iglesias
PLAUT@sc2a.unige.ch Olivier PLAUT
plewa@sirius.astrouw.edu.pl Tomasz Plewa
pm@csr.city.ac.uk Pete Mellor
ppolson@psych.colorado.edu Peter Polson
pryan@rp.CSIRO.AU Philip Ryan
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn
r.m.smith@LaRC.NASA.GOV R. Marshall Smith
rainey@netcom.com Riley Rainey
rbd4798@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com R. Brian dos Santos
rdd@netcom.com Robert Dorsett
rfh3273@galileo.ca.boeing.com Dick Harrigill
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
robg@netcom.com Rob Griffiths
rwittick@msu.edu Bob Wittick
SAAST8@vms.cis.pitt.edu THE PRINCE
saghir@eecg.toronto.edu Mazen Saghir
sanders@MIT.EDU
schorsch@ts.go.dlr.de H.G.Pagendarm
sdb@kaos.hermosa.ca.us Steve Brown
sdd@jmsparc.larc.nasa.gov Steve Derry
sedrez@icad.puc-rio.br Paulo F. Sedrez
SIMPKING@systems.ssgnet.dsto.gov.au Simpkin, Graeme
sinan@isi.com Sinan Karahan
singh@voyager.larc.nasa.gov singh daljeet
skhadye@cbis.com Shankar Khadye
skim@vsl.ist.ucf.edu Sung-Soo Kim
slb512@serveru1.naic.wpafb.af.mil stuart butts/taai/75033
soto@texas.hous.inmet.com David Soto
steveh@ctaeng.com Steve Hurt
terry.yingling@graphicsbbs.com Terry Yingling
thakulin@vipunen.hut.fi Timo Tapio Hakulinen
tim.mcgaha@chrysalis.org
tima@cfsmo.honeywell.com Timothy Aanerud
tnetter@crs4.it Thomas Netter
trey@cscsun2.larc.nasa.gov Trey Arthur
triebelh@rastro.Colorado.EDU Triebelhorn Jeffrey
ville@cenaath.cena.dgac.fr Geoffroy VILLE
w0x0f@netcom.com Stephen Fenwick
watts@gypsy3.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com Robyn M. Watts
werner@acsu.buffalo.edu Erik Werner
werner@cs.utexas.edu Werner Uhrig
wgreen@cc.hq.nasa.gov wgreen
Voted No
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apolzer@cs.ucsd.edu Andreas Polzer
balak@s1.msi.umn.edu Ajit Balakrishna [ChemE mg15302]
bson@ai.mit.edu Jan Brittenson
crouchkp@flidh102.delcoelect.com
gendrich@egr.msu.edu
hansenr@ohsu.EDU
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
julian@bongo.tele.com Julian Macassey
L668483@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
stella@netcom.com STella
Abstained
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akilgour@Thinkage.On.CA Anita Kilgour
mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
Votes in error
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jwstuart@ecst.csuchico.edu Jesse William Leo Stuart
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