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From danny@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au Tue Oct 26 17:05:17 1993
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From: danny@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (Danny Yee)
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                     Request for Discussion 

             creation of the unmoderated newsgroup

              **     sci.anthropology.paleo     **

Proposed Charter
----------------

sci.anthropology.paleo is for the discussion of the evolution of the 
genus Homo.  Some of the topics likely to be covered include:

* primatology (primate social interactions, comparative morphology, ape
	languages, etc.)

* palaeoanthropology (discussion of new fossil finds, etc.)

* origins of human language and cognition

* origins of distinctive human morphological features (bipedalism, big brain,
	hairlessness, etc.)

* genetic variation in homo sapiens (e.g. mitochondrial DNA studies)

etc.

--

Some subjects recently debated that would find a place in
sci.anthropology.paleo:

* The "African Eve" vs multi-regionalism debate

* The Aquatic Ape theory

--

The following are explicitly NOT intended for discussion in 
sci.anthropology.paleo:

* religious issues (e.g. Creationism) 
	the proper forum for these is talk.origins.

* general biological topics without particular relevance to Homo sapiens 
	sci.bio, sci.bio.ecology, the bionet hierarchy or (potentially)
	sci.bio.evolution are the appropriate places for these.

* non-biological forms of evolution (eg memetics, linguistic evolution)
	these may later acquire a newsgroup of their own but it is 
	expected that sci.anthropology, sci.lang and alt.memetics should 
	suffice for the moment.

It is however envisaged that posts will sometimes be shared with other
newsgroups, among them
	sci.bio
	sci.bio.evolution (if created)
	talk.origins
	sci.anthropology
	bionet.molbio.evolution

Motivation
----------

The evolution of the human species is naturally something of
considerable interest to a large number of people.  At the moment the
quite frequent threads on this topic are split somewhat clumsily between
sci.bio, sci.anthropology and talk.origins, as well as several other
newsgroups.  All three of these groups are fairly high volume, and are
certainly viable without this material; it is also expected that they
would share crossposts to sci.anthropology.paleo where appropriate.

It seems likely that there are many people who are interested in human
evolution but are not particularly interested in natural history, 
creationist controversy or social anthropology.  (These are examples of 
topics which make up a fair fraction of the volume in the three newsgroups 
mentioned.)

Other
-----

Discussion of sci.anthropology.paleo will take place in news.groups.  
Unless any problems are raised the Call for Votes will be sent out on 
the 18th of November.  Any volunteers to do the vote counting would be 
welcome.

Danny Yee (danny@cs.su.oz.au).

From jan@bagend.atl.ga.us Sat Nov 27 00:12:33 1993
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                 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

This is the first of two Call For Votes (CFV) regarding the proposed
creation of a new newsgroup.  Please read the proposal before voting.
Detailed instructions for voting are given below.

Unmoderated group sci.anthropology.paleo

Newsgroups line:
sci.anthropology.paleo	Evolution of man and other primates.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 15 December 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  All questions
regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems should be mailed
to Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>.

Votes should be mailed to usenet-votes@mathcs.emory.edu.

All questions regarding the proposed new group should be mailed to
the proposer, Danny Yee <danny@orthanc.cs.su.OZ.AU>

This CFV will be posted to the following mailing lists:

  anthro-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
  darwin-l@ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu


CHARTER

sci.anthropology.paleo is for the discussion of the evolution of the 
genus Homo, and more generally of the primates.  Some of the topics 
likely to be covered include:

* primatology (primate social interactions, comparative morphology, ape
	languages, etc.)

* paleoanthropology "proper" (discussion of new fossil finds, etc.)

* the origins of human language and cognition

* the origins of distinctive human morphological features (bipedalism, 
	big brain, hairlessness, etc.)

* biological and genetic variation in Homo sapiens relevant to our evolution
	(e.g. mitochondrial DNA studies)

* sociobiological arguments that rely on evolutionary considerations.

--

Some subjects recently debated that would find a place in 
sci.anthropology.paleo:

* The "African Eve" vs multi-regionalism debate

* The Aquatic Ape

Boundaries
----------

Often it is easier to define something by explaining what it isn't, or
by looking at its boundaries with similar entities.  An example of this
>from biology is the Biological Species Concept, where species are
defined in terms of the mechanisms separating them from other species
(Ernst Mayr, 1969b); in anthropology the nature of the boundaries
between different groups are often critical to their self-identification
(see Frederik Barth, _Ethnic Groups and Boundaries_, 1969).  So in order
to explain what belongs in sci.anthropology.paleo a discussion of the
boundaries with the "neighbouring" newsgroups may help.  

*** sci.bio.evolution (if created), sci.bio, bionet.molbio.evolution

Discussions particular to human or primate evolution belong in
sci.anthropology.paleo; those on general evolutionary principles and on
the specific evolutionary histories of other taxa in sci.bio.evolution.
There is some overlap in the application of general theories, methods
and models of evolutionary biology to the primates in particular.  There
are also significant overlaps with sci.bio and bionet.molbio, and some
crossposting is expected there.  

Some sample questions that would make appropriate crossposts are: 

* Is there evidence for punctuated equilibrium in human evolution?
(sci.bio.evolution)
 
* What are the physiological features of aquatic mammals that are shared
by man? (sci.bio) 

* How does the latest work on molecular clocks tie in with the dating of
the Pan/Homo split?  (bionet.molbio.evolution)

*** sci.anthropology (with acknowledgements to Cameron Laird)

In general anything which refers directly to human evolution
should be posted to sci.anthropology.paleo.  Some examples of
questions which should be crossposted are:

* What material constraints (water, temperature, energy, protein, ...)
limit traditional human cultures which exploit savannahs?  Should we
expect the same to be true of australopithecines?

* Where can I find the best contemporary data which might speak to
multi-regional origins of our species?  Has anyone updated [Smith 1991]
on continuities in jaw anatomy between neanderthals and modern
Europeans?

* The sizes of viable cultural communities recorded in HRAF seem to
bottom out around several hundred.  Paleo-anthropologists most often
talk about bands of at most two dozen hominids.  When did our ancestors
start identifying with larger groups?  

*** talk.origins

Discussion of religious issues belongs in talk.origins; it is not
appropriate for sci.anthropology.paleo.  It is envisaged that there will
be few crossposts between the two groups, and those that do occur will
narrow followups to one of the groups.  Appropriate material for a
crosspost might be a request for information on a scientific aspect of
human evolution that happens to be important in the context of a debate
in talk.origins.  

*** sci.lang, alt.memetics

Discussion of non-biological (linguistic or cultural) evolution is not
within the sci.anthropology.paleo charter.  Discussion of the relevance
of ape language experiments to understanding of the origins of human
language could appropriately be cross-posted between sci.lang and
sci.anthropology.paleo. 

*** sci.cognitive

Discussion of the origins of human cognitive abilities might be
appropriately crossposted to sci.cognitive and sci.anthropology.paleo.
An example would be the invocation of evolutionary arguments in
_Consciousness Explained_ (Dennett 1991).  

*** alt.alien.visitors, sci.skeptic

Claims of extraterrestrial involvement in human origins belong in these
groups.

--

Please note, however, that the above are only guidelines.  Posters should
use their own discretion, but they are encouraged to think about both the
Newsgroups: and Followups-To: lines of their posts.  I can't imagine a
sensible crosspost to sci.anthropology.paleo and comp.os.research, but I
wouldn't want to rule out the possibility a priori.  


MOTIVATION

The evolution of the human species is naturally something of
considerable interest to a large number of people.  At the moment the
quite frequent threads on this topic are split somewhat clumsily between
sci.bio, sci.anthropology and talk.origins, as well as several other
newsgroups.  All three of these groups are fairly high volume, and are
certainly viable without this material; it is also expected that they
would share crossposts to sci.anthropology.paleo where appropriate (see
above).

It seems likely that there are many people who are interested in human
evolution but are not particularly interested in natural history, 
creationist controversy or social anthropology.  (These are examples of 
topics which make up a fair fraction of the volume in the three newsgroups 


VOTING INSTRUCTIONS

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-- 
Jan Isley, the Knight who says ACK, can be reached at
jan@bagend.atl.ga.us  or  mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan

From jan@bagend.atl.ga.us Mon Dec  6 17:25:37 1993
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From: jan@bagend.atl.ga.us (Jan Isley)
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                 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

This is the last of two Call For Votes (CFV) regarding the proposed
creation of a new newsgroup.  Please read the proposal before voting.
Detailed instructions for voting are given below.

Unmoderated group sci.anthropology.paleo

Newsgroups line:
sci.anthropology.paleo	Evolution of man and other primates.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 15 December 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  All questions
regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems should be mailed
to Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>.

Votes should be mailed to usenet-votes@mathcs.emory.edu.

All questions regarding the proposed new group should be mailed to
the proposer, Danny Yee <danny@orthanc.cs.su.OZ.AU>

This CFV will be posted to the following mailing lists:

  anthro-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
  darwin-l@ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu

There are no bounced acks at this time.

CHARTER

sci.anthropology.paleo is for the discussion of the evolution of the 
genus Homo, and more generally of the primates.  Some of the topics 
likely to be covered include:

* primatology (primate social interactions, comparative morphology, ape
	languages, etc.)

* paleoanthropology "proper" (discussion of new fossil finds, etc.)

* the origins of human language and cognition

* the origins of distinctive human morphological features (bipedalism, 
	big brain, hairlessness, etc.)

* biological and genetic variation in Homo sapiens relevant to our evolution
	(e.g. mitochondrial DNA studies)

* sociobiological arguments that rely on evolutionary considerations.

--

Some subjects recently debated that would find a place in 
sci.anthropology.paleo:

* The "African Eve" vs multi-regionalism debate

* The Aquatic Ape

Boundaries
----------

Often it is easier to define something by explaining what it isn't, or
by looking at its boundaries with similar entities.  An example of this
>from biology is the Biological Species Concept, where species are
defined in terms of the mechanisms separating them from other species
(Ernst Mayr, 1969b); in anthropology the nature of the boundaries
between different groups are often critical to their self-identification
(see Frederik Barth, _Ethnic Groups and Boundaries_, 1969).  So in order
to explain what belongs in sci.anthropology.paleo a discussion of the
boundaries with the "neighbouring" newsgroups may help.  

*** sci.bio.evolution (if created), sci.bio, bionet.molbio.evolution

Discussions particular to human or primate evolution belong in
sci.anthropology.paleo; those on general evolutionary principles and on
the specific evolutionary histories of other taxa in sci.bio.evolution.
There is some overlap in the application of general theories, methods
and models of evolutionary biology to the primates in particular.  There
are also significant overlaps with sci.bio and bionet.molbio, and some
crossposting is expected there.  

Some sample questions that would make appropriate crossposts are: 

* Is there evidence for punctuated equilibrium in human evolution?
(sci.bio.evolution)
 
* What are the physiological features of aquatic mammals that are shared
by man? (sci.bio) 

* How does the latest work on molecular clocks tie in with the dating of
the Pan/Homo split?  (bionet.molbio.evolution)

*** sci.anthropology (with acknowledgements to Cameron Laird)

In general anything which refers directly to human evolution
should be posted to sci.anthropology.paleo.  Some examples of
questions which should be crossposted are:

* What material constraints (water, temperature, energy, protein, ...)
limit traditional human cultures which exploit savannahs?  Should we
expect the same to be true of australopithecines?

* Where can I find the best contemporary data which might speak to
multi-regional origins of our species?  Has anyone updated [Smith 1991]
on continuities in jaw anatomy between neanderthals and modern
Europeans?

* The sizes of viable cultural communities recorded in HRAF seem to
bottom out around several hundred.  Paleo-anthropologists most often
talk about bands of at most two dozen hominids.  When did our ancestors
start identifying with larger groups?  

*** talk.origins

Discussion of religious issues belongs in talk.origins; it is not
appropriate for sci.anthropology.paleo.  It is envisaged that there will
be few crossposts between the two groups, and those that do occur will
narrow followups to one of the groups.  Appropriate material for a
crosspost might be a request for information on a scientific aspect of
human evolution that happens to be important in the context of a debate
in talk.origins.  

*** sci.lang, alt.memetics

Discussion of non-biological (linguistic or cultural) evolution is not
within the sci.anthropology.paleo charter.  Discussion of the relevance
of ape language experiments to understanding of the origins of human
language could appropriately be cross-posted between sci.lang and
sci.anthropology.paleo. 

*** sci.cognitive

Discussion of the origins of human cognitive abilities might be
appropriately crossposted to sci.cognitive and sci.anthropology.paleo.
An example would be the invocation of evolutionary arguments in
_Consciousness Explained_ (Dennett 1991).  

*** alt.alien.visitors, sci.skeptic

Claims of extraterrestrial involvement in human origins belong in these
groups.

--

Please note, however, that the above are only guidelines.  Posters should
use their own discretion, but they are encouraged to think about both the
Newsgroups: and Followups-To: lines of their posts.  I can't imagine a
sensible crosspost to sci.anthropology.paleo and comp.os.research, but I
wouldn't want to rule out the possibility a priori.  


MOTIVATION

The evolution of the human species is naturally something of
considerable interest to a large number of people.  At the moment the
quite frequent threads on this topic are split somewhat clumsily between
sci.bio, sci.anthropology and talk.origins, as well as several other
newsgroups.  All three of these groups are fairly high volume, and are
certainly viable without this material; it is also expected that they
would share crossposts to sci.anthropology.paleo where appropriate (see
above).

It seems likely that there are many people who are interested in human
evolution but are not particularly interested in natural history, 
creationist controversy or social anthropology.  (These are examples of 
topics which make up a fair fraction of the volume in the three newsgroups 


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-- 
Jan Isley, the Knight who says ACK, can be reached at
jan@bagend.atl.ga.us  or  mathcs.emory.edu!bagend!jan

From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Jan 12 20:20:44 1994
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	unmoderated group sci.anthropology.paleo passes 164:11

There were 164 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 175 valid
votes.  There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and
NO) votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

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Newsgroups line:
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This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  All questions
regarding voting and procedure or reports of problems should be mailed
to Jan Isley <jan@bagend.atl.ga.us>.

Jan has had some problems on his end with getting the results out.  He
sent me the raw results files and I've created this results posting.

All questions regarding the proposed new group should be mailed to
the proposer, Danny Yee <danny@orthanc.cs.su.OZ.AU>


CHARTER

sci.anthropology.paleo is for the discussion of the evolution of the 
genus Homo, and more generally of the primates.  Some of the topics 
likely to be covered include:

* primatology (primate social interactions, comparative morphology, ape
	languages, etc.)

* paleoanthropology "proper" (discussion of new fossil finds, etc.)

* the origins of human language and cognition

* the origins of distinctive human morphological features (bipedalism, 
	big brain, hairlessness, etc.)

* biological and genetic variation in Homo sapiens relevant to our evolution
	(e.g. mitochondrial DNA studies)

* sociobiological arguments that rely on evolutionary considerations.

--

Some subjects recently debated that would find a place in 
sci.anthropology.paleo:

* The "African Eve" vs multi-regionalism debate

* The Aquatic Ape

Boundaries
----------

Often it is easier to define something by explaining what it isn't, or
by looking at its boundaries with similar entities.  An example of this
>from biology is the Biological Species Concept, where species are
defined in terms of the mechanisms separating them from other species
(Ernst Mayr, 1969b); in anthropology the nature of the boundaries
between different groups are often critical to their self-identification
(see Frederik Barth, _Ethnic Groups and Boundaries_, 1969).  So in order
to explain what belongs in sci.anthropology.paleo a discussion of the
boundaries with the "neighbouring" newsgroups may help.  

*** sci.bio.evolution (if created), sci.bio, bionet.molbio.evolution

Discussions particular to human or primate evolution belong in
sci.anthropology.paleo; those on general evolutionary principles and on
the specific evolutionary histories of other taxa in sci.bio.evolution.
There is some overlap in the application of general theories, methods
and models of evolutionary biology to the primates in particular.  There
are also significant overlaps with sci.bio and bionet.molbio, and some
crossposting is expected there.  

Some sample questions that would make appropriate crossposts are: 

* Is there evidence for punctuated equilibrium in human evolution?
(sci.bio.evolution)
 
* What are the physiological features of aquatic mammals that are shared
by man? (sci.bio) 

* How does the latest work on molecular clocks tie in with the dating of
the Pan/Homo split?  (bionet.molbio.evolution)

*** sci.anthropology (with acknowledgements to Cameron Laird)

In general anything which refers directly to human evolution
should be posted to sci.anthropology.paleo.  Some examples of
questions which should be crossposted are:

* What material constraints (water, temperature, energy, protein, ...)
limit traditional human cultures which exploit savannahs?  Should we
expect the same to be true of australopithecines?

* Where can I find the best contemporary data which might speak to
multi-regional origins of our species?  Has anyone updated [Smith 1991]
on continuities in jaw anatomy between neanderthals and modern
Europeans?

* The sizes of viable cultural communities recorded in HRAF seem to
bottom out around several hundred.  Paleo-anthropologists most often
talk about bands of at most two dozen hominids.  When did our ancestors
start identifying with larger groups?  

*** talk.origins

Discussion of religious issues belongs in talk.origins; it is not
appropriate for sci.anthropology.paleo.  It is envisaged that there will
be few crossposts between the two groups, and those that do occur will
narrow followups to one of the groups.  Appropriate material for a
crosspost might be a request for information on a scientific aspect of
human evolution that happens to be important in the context of a debate
in talk.origins.  

*** sci.lang, alt.memetics

Discussion of non-biological (linguistic or cultural) evolution is not
within the sci.anthropology.paleo charter.  Discussion of the relevance
of ape language experiments to understanding of the origins of human
language could appropriately be cross-posted between sci.lang and
sci.anthropology.paleo. 

*** sci.cognitive

Discussion of the origins of human cognitive abilities might be
appropriately crossposted to sci.cognitive and sci.anthropology.paleo.
An example would be the invocation of evolutionary arguments in
_Consciousness Explained_ (Dennett 1991).  

*** alt.alien.visitors, sci.skeptic

Claims of extraterrestrial involvement in human origins belong in these
groups.

--

Please note, however, that the above are only guidelines.  Posters should
use their own discretion, but they are encouraged to think about both the
Newsgroups: and Followups-To: lines of their posts.  I can't imagine a
sensible crosspost to sci.anthropology.paleo and comp.os.research, but I
wouldn't want to rule out the possibility a priori.  


unmoderated group sci.anthropology.paleo Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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030ROBB@witsvma.wits.ac.za                                       Robert Brooks
3SS63@QUCDN.QueensU.CA                                            Steve Sansom
aajri@marlin.jcu.edu.au                                            James Innes
adamsd@CERF.NET                                                  Douglas Adams
ahouse@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu                         Jeremy Creighton Ahouse
alr2@midway.uchicago.edu                                            John Alroy
ALVARD@dickinson.edu                                            Michael Alvard
Ant@equinox.gen.nz                                                         Ant
an_rrs@selway.umt.edu                                            Randy Skelton
baffico@mv.us.adobe.com                                            Tom Baffico
bdmartin@uafhp.uark.edu                                           Bobby Martin
bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de                                         Bruce d. Scott
benjamin.franz@m.cc.utah.edu                                    Benjamin Franz
benke@sfu.ca                                                                  
bestc@ucs.orst.edu                                                 Curtis Best
BOAZ@gwuvm.gwu.edu                                                Noel T. Boaz
boothc@kenyon.edu                                                 Carter Booth
bromage@mdw011.cc.monash.edu.au                                  David Bromage
bud@mtek.com                                                        Bud Hovell
buglady@bronze.lcs.mit.edu                                     Aliza R. Panitz
C741SCB@SEMOVM.SEMO.EDU                                          Allen Gathman
camilla@netcom.com                                          Camilla Cracchiolo
carlson@tamvm1.tamu.edu                                       David L. Carlson
CAVDBERG@tuvira.ciagri.usp.br                              Cassio van den Berg
chan@lake.scar.utoronto.ca                                         Leslie Chan
chaos@concorde.com                                                 I. Iguanama
CHOPLIN@UNIV-TOURS.FR                                            Herve Choplin
chris@eso.mc.xerox.com                                             Chris Heiny
chuahl@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                    Chua Hak Lien
CKMOTORKA@pimacc.pima.edu                                           CHILE GURU
claird@sugar.NeoSoft.COM                                         Cameron Laird
CLANCEY@SLACVM.SLAC.Stanford.EDU                               Patrick Clancey
cnedin@geology.adelaide.edu.au                                     Chris Nedin
colby@biology.bu.edu                                               Chris Colby
cs5121@ccub.wlv.ac.uk                                             J.A.Dennison
dalfes@TRBOUN.BITNET                                             Nuzhet DALFES
danny@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au                                            Danny Yee
davidsen@tmr.com                                                 Bill Davidsen
DBerline@forestek.csir.co.za                                    Derek Berliner
delancey@darkwing.uoregon.edu                                 Scott C DeLancey
dhouston@moose.uvm.edu                                           David Houston
djp@santafe.edu                                                    David Padwa
dmurphy@cwa.COM                                                     Dan Murphy
dolber@cs.duke.edu                                              Paul C. Dolber
dominiq@rice.cor2.epa.gov                                   Dominique Bachelet
donovan@bnr.ca                                                 Marc M. Donovan
drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu                                     Rebecca Drayer
duston@antares.nosc.mil                                           Brian Duston
engwall@zorro.cecer.army.mil                                      Evan Engwall
erika@informix.com                                                       erika
fearghas@challis.demon.co.uk                                    Fearghas McKay
federhen@wisp.nlm.nih.gov                                       Scott Federhen
finleyd@ukelele.GCR.COM                                           David Finley
fisher@ivy.dt.navy.mil                                           Steven Fisher
FJH30276@UDELVM.BITNET                                         Karen Rosenberg
franklig@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                Gregory C Franklin
frederil@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au                       Laust Frederiksen
g8713026@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca                                   Anouk Behara
Geoff.Arnold@East.Sun.COM                                         Geoff Arnold
geoffm@cogs.susx.ac.uk                                         Geoffrey Miller
geroldf@sdd.hp.com                                                 Gerold Firl
gil@cc.gatech.edu                                                   Gil Neiger
GRPOOL@UNB.CA                                                     Gail R. Pool
HARVEY@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU                                          James Harvey
heck@theo2.physik.uni-stuttgart.de                                            
heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu                                    Stephan Heilmayr
henrik@biology.ucsc.edu                                                  Kibak
hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu                                             Eiji Hirai
hjd@maties.sun.ac.za                                                H J Deacon
huston@access.digex.net                                            Herb Huston
I3150101@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE                                   Benedikt Rosenau
IAWJLEC@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU                                         Leslie Carlin
igor@frege.mrg.dist.unige.it                                    Igor Zamberlan
J5J@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                              John A. Johnson
jamison@merle.acns.nwu.edu                                                    
JAMQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU                                           JAMES A. MOORE
jbieley@eti.bio.uva.nl                                                        
jcardozo@conicit.ve                                    Jesus Cardozo (FUNVENA)
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU                             James Alexander Chokey
jdavis@comtch.iea.com                                               Joel Davis
JEJOHNS@erenj.com                                                Jack Johnston
jenike@anthro.sscnet.ucla.edu                                      Mark Jenike
jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com                                   Randell Jesup
jgift@netcom.com                                                 Jonathan Gift
jimj@eecs.umich.edu                                                 Jim Jewett
jjh00@eng.amdahl.com                                                Joel Hanes
jmulick@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                               James A Mulick
jonivar@festival.edinburgh.ac.uk                                              
jperry@mercury.forestry.Umn.EDU                                      Jim Perry
jshreeve@cap.gwu.edu                                             James Shreeve
jsp2@ukc.ac.uk                                                                
jwjhix@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.uk                                       John Hicks
kantner@alishaw.ucsb.edu                                          John Kantner
keck@zookeeper.zoo.uga.edu                                           Paul Keck
kenc@fenris.com                                                     Ken Corbin
KGA@UNCMVS.OIT.UNC.EDU                                       Kermyt G Anderson
KONTARAKI@nefeli.cc.uch.gr                                                    
KUCHTA@GAMMA.IS.TCU.EDU                                             Tim Kuchta
kuserk@moravian.edu                                               Frank Kuserk
L15D@ZFN.uni-bremen.de                                       Martin Schr\"oder
lachlan@dmp.csiro.au                                         Lachlan Cranswick
ldaly@acs.bu.edu                                                     Liza Daly
leh1@Lehigh.EDU                                               Lynn E. Hanninen
lenore@cs.duke.edu                                                 Lenore Ramm
litherland-o@nova.novanet.org                                                 
LMILES@UTCVM.UTC.EDU                                                 Lyn Miles
lofstrom@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu                                 Karen Lofstrom
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu                                Victor E Aldridge III
lrf6as@leeds.ac.uk                                                   A Staines
lsj@uki.hj.se                                                Sverker Johansson
lwiig@bishop.bishop.hawaii.org                                      Linda Wiig
lyndae@orca.fhcrc.org                                         Lynda Marie Emel
mar@physics.su.OZ.AU                                                 David Mar
martin@orca.tamu.edu                                           Kimberly Martin
mazzarel@math.berkeley.edu                                    Ariel Mazzarelli
MBAUSER@KENTVM.KENT.EDU                                         Michael Bauser
mcdonald@bsm.biochemistry.ucl.ac.uk                               Ian McDonald
mdiffin@mrc-crc.ac.uk                                          Dr. M.C. Diffin
mhinkes@natick-emh1.army.mil                                  Madeleine Hinkes
milton@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au                                    Simon K. Milton
MROPER31@MAINE.maine.edu                                         Marilyn Roper
mrwarden@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                           Melissa Rhoads Warden
neilb@physics.su.OZ.AU                                                Amfortas
neslu@coyote.rain.org                                          William Paulsen
nicholas.breen@travel.com                                       Nicholas Breen
park@unixg.ubc.ca                                                  Robert Park
pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk                                                  Paul Crowley
PESOLE@PLAUTO.CSATA.IT                                         GRAZIANO PESOLE
pickens@onyx.dseg.ti.com                                             Rod Picks
PJC@waikato.ac.nz                                               Peter Charlton
pound@ruf.rice.edu                                     Christopher Brian Pound
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                      Michael Quinn
R.BOOT@cc.uq.edu.au                                                Robert Boot
revu@midway.uchicago.edu                                      Sendhil Revuluri
rhoenes@picasso.ocis.temple.edu                                 Richard Hoenes
robinson@ltpsun.gsfc.nasa.gov                                     Jon Robinson
roth@mendel.grenet.fr                                              Hubert Roth
rparson@rintintin.colorado.edu                                   Robert Parson
rsquires@carina.unm.edu                                        Roger M Squires
rte@anchor.att.com                                               Ralph Edwards
sallylb@netcom.com                                                 Sally Smith
sandee@quake.think.com                                             Daan Sandee
sarima@teradata.com                                               Stan Friesen
sburke1@huey.csun.edu                                               Sean Burke
ScheurerAlix.Herrmann@ipn.unil.ch                       Alix Herrmann Scheurer
sharpe@nmesis.enet.dec.com                                      Richard Sharpe
sieferme@junior.mcis.washington.edu                             Eric Sieferman
slyang@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                    Stephen L Yang
SPLUHAR@CROP.UOGUELPH.CA                                     Stephen A. Pluhar
stu@valinor.mythical.com                                          Stu Labovitz
STWRILEY@VM.TEMPLE.EDU                                                        
T80LYY1@NIU.BITNET                                                            
terry@santafe.edu                                                             
tim@eeg.com                                                        Tim Stearns
Timo.Rinne@hut.fi                                                   Timo Rinne
tjn5e@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu                                                 
tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu                                                Trygve Lode
tracer@u.washington.edu                                        David P. Tracer
ucjtpdl@ucl.ac.uk                                                      ucjtpdl
una@minerva.cis.yale.edu                                             Una Smith
vstr18a@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu                                    Kathleen Anderson
wrcordw@somnet.sandia.gov                                  William R. Cordwell
yadallee@galcon.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
zigmunds@vittra14.mii.lu.lv                                   Zigmunds Vainers

Voted No
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ault@cs.albany.edu                                                  James Ault
crouchkp@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                                              
dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu                                                     
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu                                  Sean P. Ryan
js@digibank.demon.co.uk                                           John Stonier
knauer@ornews.intel.com                                         Rob Knauerhase
psweeney@lehman.com                                            Patrick Sweeney
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rrb@neptune.iex.com                                               Dick Barbour
shane@spr.com                                                    Shane Hartman
smarry@io.org                                                     Smarasderagd

Abstained
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mmt@RedBrick.COM                                                 Maxime Taksar


Votes in error
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herwin@cs.gmu.edu                                                  Harry Erwin
   ! No votes
MCCLB0.MED.NYU.EDU!COUTAVAS                                                   
   ! No votes
pat@mtl.mit.edu                                             Patricia E. Varley
   ! No votes

 

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