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From rthomson@dsd.es.com Fri Jun 19 13:19:57 1992
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From: Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com>
Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.fractals
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There is a growing interest in fractals, mostly from inside the
computer graphics community.  The newsgroup alt.fractals has been
around for quite a while with moderate to heavy traffic at times.
Fractals have grown from mathematical curiosities towards real-world
applications (chemical dynamics on 'fractal' interfaces, fractal image
compression, diffusion limited aggregates, etc.) as well as increasing
use in computer graphics (particle systems, L-systems, solid textures,
volume rendering of quarternion julia sets, etc.).

This RFD proposes the elimination of alt.fractals (or aliased as the
case may be) and the creation of comp.graphics.fractals.  Other
possibilities could be sci.fractals, or sci.math.fractals, but the
bulk of the traffic in the existing fractals newsgroup deals with the
computer graphical aspect of the topic, so I am proposing that it go
under the comp.graphics hierarchy.  By moving the group from the alt
hierarchy into the comp hierarchy, it is hoped that a wider audience
will be reached.

Proposed name:		comp.graphics.fractals
Proposed status:	unmoderated

Commentary is directed to news.groups.

After the sufficient period of time, this RFD will be replaced with a
call for votes on the creation of the new group, provided no
significant objections are offered during the discussion period.

						-- Rich
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From rthomson@dsd.es.com Tue Aug 11 19:51:56 1992
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From: Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com>
Subject: CFV: sci.fractals
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Since the 30 day discussion period has expired, I am making the first
official call for votes for the following newsgroup:

    sci.fractals	Unmoderated

There is a growing interest in fractals, mostly from inside the
computer graphics community, but also from the mathematical and
scientific community.  The newsgroup alt.fractals has been
around for quite a while with moderate to heavy traffic at times.
Fractals have grown from mathematical curiosities towards real-world
applications (chemical dynamics on 'fractal' interfaces, fractal image
compression, diffusion limited aggregates, etc.) as well as increasing
use in computer graphics (particle systems, L-systems, solid textures,
volume rendering of quarternion julia sets, etc.).

This CFV proposes the elimination of alt.fractals (or aliased as the
case may be) and the creation of sci.fractals.  By moving the group from
the alt hierarchy into the comp hierarchy, it is hoped that a wider audience
will be reached.

The only objection to the original RFD was the name.  Of all the names
discussed, sci.fractals was considered to be the best one suggested.

The voting period will end in 30 days on September 11th.  To cast your
vote, send me electronic mail with one of the following as the subject
of the message:

    "sci.fractals: NO"			To cast a NO vote
    "sci.fractals: YES"			To cast a YES vote

>From within most news readers you should be able to simply reply to
the sender of this message (rthomson@dsd.es.com) and change the subject
line appropriately.

    DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  POSTED VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED!!

After two weeks, a mass vote acknowledgement and a second call for
votes will be issued.
						-- Rich
-- 
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From rthomson@dsd.es.com Thu Aug 27 01:15:18 1992
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From: Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com>
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.fractals
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[Please note that followups are directed to news.groups]

This is the second official call for votes for the following newsgroup:

    sci.fractals	Unmoderated

There is a growing interest in fractals, mostly from inside the
computer graphics community, but also from the mathematical and
scientific community.  The newsgroup alt.fractals has been
around for quite a while with moderate to heavy traffic at times.
Fractals have grown from mathematical curiosities towards real-world
applications (chemical dynamics on 'fractal' interfaces, fractal image
compression, diffusion limited aggregates, etc.) as well as increasing
use in computer graphics (particle systems, L-systems, solid textures,
volume rendering of quarternion julia sets, etc.).

This CFV proposes the elimination of alt.fractals (or aliased as the
case may be) and the creation of sci.fractals.  By moving the group from
the alt hierarchy into the comp hierarchy, it is hoped that a wider audience
will be reached.

The only objection to the original RFD was the name.  Of all the names
discussed, sci.fractals was considered to be the best one suggested.

The voting period will end on September 11th.  To cast your vote, send
me electronic mail with one of the following as the subject of the message:

    "sci.fractals: NO"			To cast a NO vote
    "sci.fractals: YES"			To cast a YES vote

>From within most news readers you should be able to simply reply to
the sender of this message (rthomson@dsd.es.com) and change the subject
line appropriately.

    DO NOT POST YOUR VOTE!  POSTED VOTES WILL NOT BE COUNTED!!

Votes have been received from the following people:

"Christopher J. Henrich" <cjh@tinton.ccur.com>
"Dave Schaumann" <dave@cs.arizona.edu>
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
"Erich E. Brumbaugh" <eb2b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU>
"Geoffrey D. Bennett" <geoffrey@tafe.sa.edu.au>
"Geoffrey H. Day" <geoffrey@geo.geol.utas.edu.au>
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"Luis G. Hernandez Ure\:a." <GHERNAN%UCRVM2.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
"Michael L. Kaufman" <kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu>
"Robert D. Black" <rdblack@neumann.uwaterloo.ca>
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From rthomson@dsd.es.com Thu Sep 10 20:48:56 1992
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From: Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com>
Subject: RESULT: sci.fractals passes 295:20
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The call for votes period has ended with a passing result for

	sci.fractals	Unmoderated

There were 295 yes votes and 20 no votes out of a total of 315 votes.
This meets the Usenet requirements of at least 100 more yes votes than
no votes with at least 2/3 of the total vote being yes votes.  Where
possible, I identified multiple votes from the same person to
eliminate duplicate votes.

Of the "NO" votes received, the commentary was that there wasn't
enough traffic to warrant moving the group to the sci hierarchy from
the alt hierarchy.  However, the move from alt to sci is intended to
increase traffic.

Proposed Charter:

    The new group will not be moderated.

    This newsgroup will be for discussion of fractals, which have been
    defined as "objects of non-integral dimension".  The concept ties
    in closely with chaos, and indeed some chaotic attractors exhibit
    a fractal structure.  It is expected that discussions will range
    over a wide variety of topics relating to fractals:

    o the mundane	Where can I find FRACTINT?
    o the mathematical	What is the true area of the Mandelbrot set?
    o the practical	What's all this about fractal compression?
    o the scientific	What's the "fractal dimension" of the Rockies?

    While fractals were initially popularized by their representations
    via computer graphics techniques, the interest in fractals beyond
    the computer graphics and mathematical communities is growing.
    Dana Scott, in his Elliot Organick Memorial Lecture at the University
    of Utah in 1992, reported that the number of publications in the
    past year alone with either the word "fractal" or "chaos" in the title
    was over 4,000.  This indicates a significant interest in these
    subjects in the academic world.

Since this new group is intended to replace alt.fractals, I will call
for the removal of alt.fractals (or its aliasing) in favor of
sci.fractals after a sufficient amount of time (30 days) has passed
for most sites to start carrying sci.fractals.

						-- Rich

The following people voted "YES" for sci.fractals:
 "Andrew A. Chernov, Black Mage" <ache@astral.msk.su>
 "Christopher J. Henrich" <cjh@tinton.ccur.com>
 "Dave Schaumann" <dave@cs.arizona.edu>
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 "Geoffrey D. Bennett" <geoffrey@tafe.sa.edu.au>
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The following people voted "NO" for sci.fractals:
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 "Howard Wachtel (312) 975-7970" <U13054@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
 "S. Wukovitz" <SXW103@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
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 Doug Young <dougy@xvt.com>
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