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From jrh@nirim.go.jp Fri Sep 23 15:27:08 1994
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From: jrh@nirim.go.jp (James Reginald Hester)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.lang
Subject: RFD: sci.lang.translation
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Group Name: sci.lang.translation
Status: Unmoderated
Distribution: Worldwide
Summary: Forum for those interested in the problems, issues and
concerns of translators/interpreters.
Proposed by: James Hester
Rationale:
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There has been some discussion recently in 'sci.lang' on the
creation of a translation newsgroup. A mailing list, LANTRA-L,
already exists for professional translators. However, recent high
traffic on this mailing list has prompted calls for a newsgroup to be
created to facilitate processing of the large number of messages.
Charter
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The proposed group would provide a forum for those interested in the
problems, issues and concerns of translators/interpreters. Examples
of topics appropriate to this group are:
* Automated translation software
* Translation methods
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language
pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters
This RFD is being posted to: sci.lang
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
mailing list LANTRA-L
Please post it to any other groups who might be interested.
Discussion of this proposal will last for at least 3 weeks. If a
charter is agreed upon, a call for votes (CFV) lasting a further 3
weeks will be conducted by a neutral third party. Details will be
posted when and if this is about to occur.
--
James Hester
jrh@nirim.go.jp
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Mon Nov 21 12:49:37 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.lang
Subject: CFV: sci.lang.translation
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group sci.lang.translation
Newsgroups line:
sci.lang.translation Problems and concerns of translators/interpreters
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list LANTRA-L on LISTSERV@SEARN.BITNET
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact James Hester <jrh@nirim.go.jp>
CHARTER
Examples of topics appropriate to this group are:
* Automated translation software
* Translation methods
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on sci.lang.translation
I vote NO on sci.lang.translation
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Thu Dec 1 15:37:40 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.lang.translation
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LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group sci.lang.translation
Newsgroups line:
sci.lang.translation Problems and concerns of translators/interpreters
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 December 1994.
After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list LANTRA-L on LISTSERV@SEARN.BITNET
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact James Hester <jrh@nirim.go.jp>
CHARTER
Examples of topics appropriate to this group are:
* Automated translation software
* Translation methods
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on sci.lang.translation
I vote NO on sci.lang.translation
You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
sci.lang.translation Bounce List - No need to revote
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bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Dec 14 15:17:28 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: sci.lang.translation passes 146:12
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RESULT
unmoderated group sci.lang.translation passes 146:12
There were 146 YES votes and 12 NO votes, for a total of 158 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 2 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
sci.lang.translation Problems and concerns of translators/interpreters
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact James Hester <jrh@nirim.go.jp>
CHARTER
Examples of topics appropriate to this group are:
* Automated translation software
* Translation methods
* Membership of professional bodies
* Accreditation of professional translators/interpreters
* International standards for translators/interpreters
* Discussion of dictionaries for a given language pair
* Software for displaying foreign character sets
* Translation requests for passages/words/phrases for a given language pair
* Reviews of translated works
* Training and education of translators/interpreters
sci.lang.translation Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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olly@dibe.unige.it Mauro Olivieri
orthner@cc.umanitoba.ca Bryan N. Orthner
otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu M. Otto
pathall@uclink.berkeley.edu pathall@uclink.berkeley.edu
radrayer@panix.com Rebecca Drayer
richardl@ccl.umist.ac.uk -Richard Loubejac - Language Assistant
rls@olympus.net Andrew Ostrovsky
rufinus@cae.wisc.edu
sasbmt@unx.sas.com Bruce Tindall
sasdmh@unx.sas.com David Hall
shaunc@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM The Great Pumpkin
slevin@matuka.bioc.aecom.yu.edu Sergey Levin
stcthelib@shrsys.hslc.org Noel S. McFerran
stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua Andrey Stesin
T.SLATER@LINK-M.MUC.DE
teej@pipeline.com Thomas Sherlock
tgm@netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams
tmg@wg.saar.de Tilman Mueller-Gerbes
Tommi.Salonen@metla.fi
tony@well.sf.ca.us Tony Roder
torgeirf@oslonett.no Torgeir Eye F{ravaag
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writer4u@rain.org David Howard
xen@rci.ripco.com Xen
yuval.kfir@Indigo.co.il Yuval Kfir
Voted No
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archer@frmug.fr.net Vincent Archer
cls6@midway.uchicago.edu Cory L. Scott
crouchkp@flidh103.delcoelect.com Kenneth P Crouch
cward@Think.COM Christopher Ward
jcmurphy@cadman.cit.buffalo.edu Jeff Murphy
jeffg@loki.engr.sgi.com Jeff C. Glover
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien
rew@moontarz.nuance.com Ryan Waldron
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
riley@informix.com Riley Brown
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
Abstained
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mmt@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
Votes in error
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GEISER@uni2a.unige.ch
! Conflicting votes
MARCHESI@uni2a.unige.ch
! Conflicting votes
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