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From: bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu (Brian Manning Delaney)
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Subject: RFD: sci.bio.life-extension
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This is a formal Request for Discussion regarding the establishment of
an unmoderated sci.bio.life-extension newsgroup.
<> Purpose of the Newsgroup.
The newsgroup would be primarily for the discussion of techniques of
slowing, stopping, and reversing the aging process, from a practical
as well as theoretical standpoint. This includes, as
life-extensionists say, "adding life to years as well as years to
life;" i.e., we'll discuss not just techniques of "extending" what in
some cases might be a state of already senescent decrepitude, but also
ways of restoring and maintaining youth. In addition, the social
consequences of increased human lifespan may be discussed. (The name
of the group implies no stance on the merits of the book, "Life
Extension," by Pearson and Shaw.)
<> Rationale.
This topic has received increasing attention in recent years as
research gerontologists have begun to understand the biological
mechanisms of aging. As interest in this topic has grown, so has
discussion on the Net. The discussion has been scattered across a
variety of newsgroups, including bionet.molbio.aging, sci.cryonics,
sci.med.nutrition, and alt.psychoactives. None of these newsgroups is
appropriate to a broad discussion of life-extension. The "bionet"
groups are theoretical only, and most sites don't carry them.
Sci.cryonics specializes in only one technique of life extension.
Sci.med.nutrition and alt.psychoactives allow only the limited
discussion of life-extension that falls within the spheres of
nutrition and psychoactive drugs, respectively, and the emphasis of
each is not on life-extension *per se*. A new group would consolidate
the discussion, and would provide a more appropriate forum for the
more general issues related to longevity, which do not fall under the
purview of any current newsgroup.
<> Note
All discussion should be posted to news.groups.
From bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu Thu Feb 18 23:12:47 1993
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From: Brian Manning Delaney <bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.life-extension
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This is a formal Request for Discussion regarding the establishment of
an unmoderated sci.life-extension newsgroup. My original proposal for
this group was edited by news administrators. They changed the name to
sci.bio.life-extension, which seemed not to make sense to many people,
so now I am proposing the group again under the original name. (The
Rationale section has been revised.)
<> Purpose of the Newsgroup.
The newsgroup would be primarily for the discussion of techniques of
slowing, stopping, and reversing the aging process, from a practical
as well as theoretical standpoint. This includes, as
life-extensionists say, "adding life to years as well as years to
life;" i.e., we'll discuss not just techniques of "extending" what in
some cases might be a state of already senescent decrepitude, but also
ways of restoring and maintaining youth. (The name of the group
implies no stance on the merits of the book, "Life Extension," by
Pearson and Shaw.)
<> Rationale.
This topic has received increasing attention in recent years as
research gerontologists have begun to understand the mechanisms of
aging. As interest in this topic has grown, so has discussion on the
Net. The discussion has been scattered across a variety of newsgroups,
including bionet.molbio.aging, sci.cryonics, sci.med.nutrition, and
alt.psychoactives. None of these newsgroups is appropriate to a broad
discussion of life-extension:
The "bionet" groups are not carried by many sites. In addition, they
are designed as a medium of exchange for professional researchers,
whose professional needs should be respected by other (mostly amateur)
scientists. Moreover, the proposed group would be a forum for the
discussion of life-extension from a variety of scientific perspectives
-- some falling within the sphere of molecular biology, some within
other areas of biology, and some not in biology at all (but rather in
psychology, cryonics, etc.).
Sci.cryonics specializes in only one technique of life extension.
Sci.med.nutrition and alt.psychoactives allow only the limited
discussion of life-extension that falls within the spheres of
nutrition and psychoactive drugs, respectively, and the emphasis of
each is not on life-extension *per se*. A new group would consolidate
the discussion, and would provide a more appropriate forum for the
more general issues related to longevity, which do not fall under the
purview of any current newsgroup.
<> Note
All discussion should be posted to news.groups.
-Brian <bmdelane@midwa.uchicago.edu>
From bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu Mon Mar 29 20:37:34 1993
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From: bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu (brian manning delaney)
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Subject: CFV: sci.life-extension
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This is a CALL FOR VOTES for the proposed unmoderated Usenet News group:
Sci.life-extension
After a lengthy discussion period in which all responses to the idea
of a group dealing with life extension were positive, here's the
official Call for Votes to create the group, sci.life-extension.
<> Charter
The newsgroup would be primarily for the discussion of techniques of
slowing, stopping, and reversing the aging process, from a practical
as well as theoretical standpoint. This includes, as
life-extensionists say, "adding life to years as well as years to
life;" i.e., we'll discuss not just techniques of "extending" what in
some cases might be a state of already senescent decrepitude, but also
ways of restoring and maintaining youth. (The name of the group
implies no stance on the merits of the book, "Life Extension," by
Pearson and Shaw.)
This topic has received increasing attention in recent years as
research gerontologists have begun to understand the mechanisms of
aging. As interest in this topic has grown, so has discussion on the
Net. The discussion has been scattered across a variety of newsgroups,
including bionet.molbio.aging, sci.cryonics, sci.med.nutrition, and
alt.psychoactives. None of these newsgroups is appropriate to a broad
discussion of life-extension:
The "bionet" groups are not carried by many sites. In addition, they
are designed as a medium of exchange for professional researchers,
whose professional needs should be respected by other (mostly amateur)
scientists. Moreover, the (intentionally) broad nature of the charter
is designed to create a forum for the discussion of life-extension
>from a variety of scientific perspectives -- some falling within the
sphere of molecular biology, some within other areas of biology, and
some not in biology at all (but rather in psychology, cryonics, etc.).
Sci.cryonics specializes in only one technique of life extension.
Sci.med.nutrition and alt.psychoactives allow only the limited
discussion of life-extension that falls within the spheres of
nutrition and psychoactive drugs, respectively, and the emphasis of
each is not on life-extension *per se*. A new group would consolidate
the discussion, and would provide a more appropriate forum for the
more general issues related to longevity, which do not fall under the
purview of any current newsgroup.
<> Voting period.
The voting period begins as soon as this CFV is posted, and lasts
until April 17th. Votes received after midnight on 4/17 won't be
counted.
<> How to Vote
To vote, mail to bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu.
To vote YES, put "YES sci.life-extension" in the subject header.
To vote NO, put "NO sci.life-extension" in the subject header.
If you use rn, trn, or something similar you can hit 'r' at the end of
this article and edit the "Subject:" header appropriately. (Don't
worry if in my address "midway" is replaced with something else when
you hit 'r'; it will still get to me.)
Other unambiguous mailings will also count, but it will be less work
for me if you follow the above instructions.
Ideally, your emailed vote would look like one of the following:
Subject: YES sci.life-extension
Subject: NO sci.life-extension
There will be two mass acknowledgements posted during the voting
period; one will be posted around 3/31, and the other around 4/10. The
final vote tally will be posted at the end of the vote. This final
tally will indicate how everyone voted so that people can correct
their votes if mistakes are found.
If anyone votes more than once only the most recent vote will count.
-Brian Delaney.
From bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu Tue Apr 20 14:46:55 1993
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From: bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu (brian manning delaney)
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Subject: RESULT: sci.life-extension passes 237:28
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The vote to create the proposed group, Sci.life-extension, was
affirmative.
Yes votes: 237.
No votes: 28.
What follows is a list of the people who voted, by vote ("no" or "yes").
Here are the people who voted NO:
bailey@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu (Ed Bailey)
barkdoll@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll)
msb@sq.com (Mark Brader)
carr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Dave Carr)
desj@ccr-p.ida.org (David desJardins)
jbh@Anat.UMSMed.Edu (James B. Hutchins)
rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
lau@ai.sri.com (Stephen Lau)
plebrun@minf8.vub.ac.be (Philippe Lebrun)
jmaynard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Maynard)
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
smarry@zooid.guild.org (Marc Moorcroft)
dmosher@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Mosher)
ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson)
hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu (Herbert M Petro)
smith-una@YALE.EDU (Una Smith)
mmt@RedBrick.COM (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)
urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
ac999266@umbc.edu (a Francis Uy)
werner@SOE.Berkeley.Edu (John Werner)
wick@netcom.com (Potter Wickware)
ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury)
D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk (D. Wright)
yarvin-norman@CS.YALE.EDU (Norman Yarvin)
ask@cblph.att.com
spm2d@opal.cs.virginia.edu
Here are the people who voted YES:
FSSPR@ACAD3.ALASKA.EDU (Hardcore Alaskan)
kalex@eecs.umich.edu (Ken Alexander)
ph600fht@sdcc14.UCSD.EDU (Alex Aumann)
franklin.balluff@Syntex.Com (Franklin Balluff)
barash@umbc.edu (Mr. Steven Barash)
build@alan.b30.ingr.com (Alan Barksdale (build))
lion@TheRat.Kludge.COM (John H. Barlow)
pbarto@UCENG.UC.EDU (Paul Barto)
ryan.bayne@canrem.com (Ryan Bayne)
mignon@shannon.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mignon Belongie)
beaudot@tirf.grenet.fr (william Beaudot)
lavb@lise.unit.no (Olav Benum)
ross@bryson.demon.co.uk (Ross Beresford)
ben.best@canrem.com (Ben Best)
levi@happy-man.com (Levi Bitansky)
jsb30@dagda.Eng.Sun.COM (James Blomgren)
gbloom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Gregory Bloom)
mbrader@netcom.com (Mark Brader)
ebrandt@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Eli Brandt)
doom@leland.stanford.edu (Joseph Brenner)
rc@pos.apana.org.au (Robert Cardwell)
jeffjc@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey CHANCE)
sasha@cs.umb.edu (Alexander Chislenko)
mclark@world.std.com (Maynard S Clark)
100042.2703@CompuServe.COM ("A.J. Clifford")
coleman@twinsun.com (Mike Coleman)
steve@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu (Steve Coltrin)
collier@ivory.rtsg.mot.com (John T. Collier)
compton@plains.NoDak.edu (Curtis M. Compton)
bobc@master.cna.tek.com (Bob Cook)
cordell@shaman.nexagen.com (Bruce Cordell)
cormierj@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Cormier Jean-Marc)
djcoyle@macc.wisc.edu (Douglas J. Coyle)
dass0001@student.tc.umn.edu ("John R Dassow-1")
bdd@onion.eng.hou.compaq.com (Bruce Davis)
demonn@emunix.emich.edu (Kenneth Jubal DeMonn)
desilets@sj.ate.slb.com (Mark Desilets)
markd@sco.COM (Mark Diekhans)
kari@teracons.teracons.com (Kari Dubbelman)
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willdye@helios.unl.edu (Will Dye)
155yegan%jove.dnet.measurex.com@juno.measurex.com (TERRY EGAN)
eder@hsvaic.boeing.com (Dani Eder)
glenne@magenta.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Glenn Ellingson)
farrar@adaclabs.com (Richard Farrar)
ghsvax!hal@uunet.UU.NET (Hal Finney)
lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel)
afoxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (Foxx)
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naoursla@eos.ncsu.edu
ng4@husc.harvard.edu
pase70!dchapman@uwm.edu
pocock@math.utah.edu
RUDI@HSD.UVic.CA
SCOTTJOR@delphi.com
stanton@ide.com
steveha@microsoft.com
stu1016@DISCOVER.WRIGHT.EDU
SYang.ES_AE@xerox.com
tim.hruby@his.com
Todd.Kaufmann@FUSSEN.MT.CS.CMU.EDU
tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu
UC482529@MIZZOU1.BITNET
WMILLER@clust1.clemson.edu
yost@mv.us.adobe.com
(The group still passes if you don't count the people for
whom I just have email address.)
-Brian <bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu>
USENET FACT: Flaming
Flaming is the hostile interaction between multiple Usenet users.