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From cyberoid@u.washington.edu Thu Jul 30 16:49:32 1992
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From: Robert Jacobson <cyberoid@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RFD: sci.virtual-worlds.apps
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SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS
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This is a Request for Discussion concerning a proposed newsgroup,
sci.virtual-worlds.apps
for the discussion of pending and actual applications of virtual
worlds technology in industrial, commercial, educational, and
entertainment settings.
Calling for the creation of this newsgroup are the founders and
current moderators of sci.virtual-worlds, Bob Jacobson and Mark De
Loura.
For over 18 months we have presided over the increasingly complex and
useful dialogues that have taken place on sci.v-w. It's our opinion
that the conversations there are now varied enough to merit the
spinning off of a second newsgroup dedicated to actual applications of
the technology. According to surveys, nearly 2% of USENET's millions
of readers tune in at least occasionally. This diverse population
of interest can support more than one newsgroup.
In the past, mailing lists have formed to handle such specific topics
as software requirements for headsets and gloves, but we foresee a
larger need: the chance to publicly announce and discuss applications
of virtual worlds technology. This will provide a kickstart to our
industry and help us to keep directed toward serving the public and
the market, rather than becoming inward-turned, all research and self-
preoccupation.
sci.virtual-worlds will continue to be sponsored by the HIT Lab. It's
our belief that s.v-w should continue as a general forum for our
community, perhaps one more focused on cutting edge research and
philosophical issues. These are still very important. However, this
will be the prerogative of the new moderators and the participants.
sci.virtual-worlds.apps will be a place to take these discussions one
step farther, into the domain of serious applications.
We will have a two-week open period of debate and comment on this
proposal, in sci.virtual-worlds, on the WELL, and in the traditional
forum of news.announce.newgroups. Then we will call for a formal
vote. If there is a net positive vote of 100 participants, we will
create sci.virtual-worlds.apps and announce its formation to you.
Thank you for considering this proposal. We believe it is necessary
for a newsgroup to exist in which to advance the state of our art
through the discussion of applications and their economic, commercial,
and social implication. We welcome your comments and support.
--
Bob Jacobson Mark De Loura
Moderator Co-Moderator
cyberoid@u.washington.edu madsax@u.washington.edu
bluefire@well.sf.ca.us deloura@cs.unc.edu
From cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu Thu Aug 20 10:09:08 1992
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From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Subject: CFV: sci.virtual-worlds.apps
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1st CALL FOR VOTE: SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS
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Several weeks ago, sci.virtual-worlds moderator, Bob Jacobson, and
co-moderator, Mark De Loura, posted a CFD to discuss a new newsgroup,
sci.virtual-worlds.apps . This new newsgroup would focus on current
and forthcoming uses of virtual-worlds technology ("virtual reality").
It would be moderated by Jacobson and De Loura, who would hand over
moderatorship of sci.virtual-worlds to new moderators selected by that
newsgroup's sponsor, the HIT Lab at the Washington Technology Center.
The comments we received were unanimously supportive of this new
newsgroup. There were no suggestions for modifications (although
additional segmentations of sci.virtual-worlds were recommended).
Accordingly, we are now calling for a vote. The vote will continue
for 30 days; votes should be sent before 23:59 GMT, 19 September 1992.
To vote on the creation of sci.virtual-worlds:
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1. Send all votes to:
cyberoid@u.washington.edu
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4. For a positive vote, in the message field type: YES.
5. For a negative vote, in the message field type: NO.
6. Send nothing else in the message field, with the exception of
your full name and/or site if it does not already appear in
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Thank you for your vote.
--
Bob Jacobson Mark De Loura
Moderator Co-Moderator
sci.virtual-worlds sci.virtual-worlds
cyberoid@u.washington.edu madsax@u.washington.edu
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From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Subject: RESULT: sci.virtual-worlds.apps passes 133:8
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The vote on sci.virtual-worlds.apps has closed. The vote was 133 in
favor, 8 opposed, 9 invalid yes votes, and 1 invalid no vote (due to
incomplete voter identification). The actual polls follow below.
Two days ago, prior to the close of the vote, Bob Jacobson, one of the
proposers, inadvertently sent a notice, intended for the moderator of
this newsgroup, to news.groups (an unmoderated newsgroup). This
notice indicated that the newsgroup was passing by a substantial
margin (Bob estimated 140-7, based on mail volume) and asked the
moderator how Bob should handle the closing of the vote since Bob was
leaving town.
Several persons caught this anomaly and called it to Bob's atten-
tion. Technically, posting a vote tally prior to the closing of a
vote is a violation of the USENET guidelines, because it can be used
to hype a favorable vote if the tally is insufficient for creating a
new newsgroup. However, in this case, there was no motive for my
intentionally violating the guidelines -- the newsgroup was winning
its vote handily. In fact, all of the remaining votes that came in
after Bob's mistaken posting were opposed to forming the newsgroup.
(I immediately cancelled the posting as soon as it was brought to my
attention.)
Commonsense says that an error made accidentally that has no material
effect on the outcome of a vote should not invalidate the vote. In
fact, all of the persons but one who noted my error were quite
forgiving of the situation. Now we are appealing to the net community
to approve the formation of sci.v-w. apps. We have a host computer
dedicated to its operation, five co-moderators around the world ready
to provide its participants with up-to-date information about a
fast-growing industry of some importance -- and above all, the votes
of more than 133 concerned USENET users FOR the creation of the
newsgroup, against the 8 (or 9) who oppose it.
If we have to do this over, we will, but at considerable expense in
bandwidth and LOTS of personal time and effort on the part of the
proposers, the voters, and the net itself. Thanks for your thoughts.
We hope we can get on with satisfying the obvious demand for this
newsgroup.
Sincerely,
Bob Jacobson Mark De Loura
Moderator Co-Moderator
sci.virtual-worlds sci.virtual-worlds
and
Proposer Co-Proposer
sci.virtual-worlds.apps sci.virtual-worlds.apps
[[ I am of the opinion that the result should stand. Bob's error did
not notably influence the outcome of the poll, which is why that
particular clause was put in the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation.
Comments about this should be sent to tale@uunet.uu.net within the
next five days.
It should be noted that in his desire to conform to the Guidelines,
Bob has decided to not counted several votes which were absent full
names, despite the fact that traditionally they have been accepted.
If they were to be counted, then the group passes by an even wider
margin.
-- tale ]]
133 Yes Votes
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Mark Pesce <osendai@well.sf.ca.us>
P.J.T.Wotton@bnr.co.uk
rpe@pastek.cray.com (Roland Piquepaille)
Mark Henry <HENRYC93@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
kai@nada.kth.se <Kai Jaa-Aro>
"Timothy J. Anderson" <ta10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Dave Stampe-Psy+Eng <dstamp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
psantangeli@alias.com (Peter Santangeli)
twm@cs.brown.edu (Tom Meyer)
Tom Hargadon <foxhedge@well.sf.ca.us>
Stephen Foy <shf@access.digex.com>
JURBAN@uoft02.utoledo.edu
avi bar-zeev <bar-zeev@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Michael Almquist <squish@hitl.washington.edu>
Neil A Haldar <nhaldar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
laukee@canon.co.uk (David Lau-Kee)
sflinter@cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Flinter)
Ron.Currier@East.Sun.COM (Ron Currier - Sun BOS)
hcooper@javelin.sim.es.com (Harrison Cooper)
John Eagan <76130.2225%compuserve.com@hitl.washington.edu>
Mark Takas <tak@hitl.washington.edu>
parksoft!dave@cs.washington.edu (David Hendrix)
jwt!bbs-airwick@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Eric Van Hensbergen)
vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew)
Kenny Meyer <kennym@well.sf.ca.us>
trj@melb.bull.oz.au (Tony Johnston)
German W Bauer <gbauer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
"Diglio A. Simoni" <diglio@sccs.syr.edu>
chanson@mtlookitthat.chi.il.us (Chris Hanson)
digs!chet@jabber.BTS.COM (Chet Dagit)
Robert Marsanyi <rnm@well.sf.ca.us>
SCHEEYK02@cc.curtin.edu.au (Yin-kheong Chee)
Hanno Wirth <wirth@igd.fhg.de>
gsingh@iss.nus.sg (Gurminder Singh)
Michael Snoswell <snoswell@itd.adelaide.edu.au>
COS.MARSHALL@GLASGOW-POLY.AC.UK
vorl@sdf.lonestar.org (Omar Loggiodice)
Per Soderlind <per@oslace.enet.dec.com>
Pietro.Zanarini@crs4.it
dlwood@mailbox.syr.edu (David L Wood)
bobp@hal.com (Bob Pendelton)
dbarberi@mailbox.syr.edu (David Barberi)
g88b7912@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR SD BANGAY)
mmailand@gumbo.age.lsu.edu (Mike Mailander)
Lauri Valsta <valsta@kuusi.metla.fi>
janr@falch.no (Jan Robert Johnsen)
maf@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Forssen)
Paolo Bernardelli <bpaolo@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it>
johne@iti.gov.sg (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer)
frankc@netcom.com (Frank Crowell)
avs@tutor.inesc.pt (Artur Vale Serrano)
"Robbin R. Hough" <hough@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
Michael Robb <michaelr@spider.co.uk>
Jack Taylor <JTT@icf.hrb.com>
diego@minerva.st.dsi.unimi.it (Diego Montefusco)
machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Machin)
rjt@ornl.gov (Ross J. Toedte)
tabbert@noc.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (Andreas Tabbert)
Matt J. Lavoie <lavoie@cs.unc.edu>
Perry.Gray@regina.cs.uregina.ca
shanks@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Mark Shanks)
Stephen Palm <PALM%SNYCANVA.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>
Caius Tenche <caius.tenche@canrem.com>
Amitabh Varshney <varshney@cs.unc.edu>
friedman@tammy.harvard.edu (Dawn Friedman)
Lew Hitchner <hitchner@riacs.edu>
Jeremiah.Blatz@Dartmouth.EDU (Jeremiah Blatz)
dwf3356@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.W. Filiatrault)
spm@atmos.dar.csiro.au (McEWAN Shane)
"Michael L. Kaufman" <kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu>
smoot@roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu (Stephen [Steve] Smoot)
eugene@nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Michael A Cecere <mac20@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
matwood%cascades@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
Daniel R. Duncan <dunc@well.sf.ca.us>
Carl Loeffler <cel+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Richard_Smith@sfu.ca
wolf@molout.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (M. Wolf)
michael@kauri.ida.dsir.govt.nz (Michael Rygol)
pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Robert Jacobson <cyberoid@u.washington.edu>
Dave Tonnesen <davet@dgp.toronto.edu>
jpotts@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Joseph C. Potts)
nick@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Nick England - Sun NC Development Center)
Robert L. Miller <rlm@Hudson.Stanford.EDU>
jcs@saturn.accelr8.com (Joe Steger)
wex@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Alan Wexelblat)
tfp@world.std.com (Tom F Portante)
Jeff James <furry@hitl.washington.edu>
La Monte Yarroll <piggy@cs.uchicago.edu>
ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn)
Anthony Edward Winfield <winfia@rpi.edu>
mitch@novavax.nova.edu (Mitch Silverman)
"Sam Hill Cabal, DS" <tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu>
ojt@cs.brown.edu (Oren J. Tversky)
geoffrey@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Geoff Thomas)
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
etzl@phoney.boeing.com (Julius Etzl)
fergal@quay.ie (Fergal O'Sullivan)
fsistler@gumbo.age.lsu.edu (Fred Sistler)
ssi!fcc@uunet.UU.NET (Frank C. Christofferson)
nv90-mho@nada.kth.se (Magnus Holmberg)
ab980@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carwil James)
Chris Shaw <cdshaw@cs.ualberta.ca>
jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead)
girling@cs.sfu.ca (Doug Girling)
lee@luke.rsg.hac.com (C. Lee)
Miron Cuperman <miron@extropia.wimsey.bc.ca>
Glenn.Farley@f201.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Glenn Farley)
swildner@channelz.GUN.de (Sascha Wildner)
hamann@cs.washington.edu (David Hamann)
jg@cci.dk (Jorgen Gustafsson)
andyrose@netcom.com (Andy Rose)
akerson@srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp)
ssmythe@bellahs.com (Steve Smythe PSE)
lindahl@arrisun3.uta.edu (Charlie Lindahl)
impmh!dsg (Dave Gordon)
Rick Shrum <shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
B.J. Herbison <herbison@erlang.enet.dec.com>
Jason Asbahr <Asbahr@UH.EDU>
dano@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Dan Olson)
Wolfgang Roehrig <rowowzb1@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
edsr!jem@uunet.UU.NET (John E. Mendenhall)
"Vivien Hannon, UCIS" <HANNON@AC.DAL.CA>
shoge@sra.com (Scott Hoge)
mbrown@cs.ua.edu (Marcus Brown)
"Sean Fuller c60201 5312" <FULLER@aedc-vax.af.mil>
susan@scripps.edu (Susan Mandel)
Robert Campanell <robcamp@well.sf.ca.us>
kakei@ipc.kajima.co.jp (Hidekazu Kakei)
Bill Farmer <farmer@gershwin.iml.mkhar.sharp.co.jp>
Maria Rudolph <rudolph@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com>
8 Valid No Votes
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rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
pratt@cs.nps.navy.mil (david pratt)
peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
tmsoft!pseudo!mjn@zoo.toronto.edu (Murray Nesbitt)
Marc Moorcroft <smarry@zooid.guild.org>
baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
shiau@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Duckie Shiau)
John Stanley <stanley@oce.orst.edu>
9 Invalid Yes Votes (Lack of Full Name)
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"wbwqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu"
pjm@BBN.COM
lawless@acs.ucalgary.ca
KRSEAR02@ulkyvx03.louisville.edu
magick@iastate.edu*
john@igd.fhg.de
tools@thud.PRPA.Philips.COM (Tools)
lyn@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Myself)
<SEVANS@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU>
* This is magick's actual last name, but in case anyone was
concerned, I have noted it as an invalid vote.
1 Invalid No Vote (Lack of Full Name)
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c28f62@world.std.com (A Citizen of The World)
From cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu Mon Sep 28 11:13:05 1992
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From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Subject: CFV: sci.virtual-worlds.apps
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1st CALL FOR REVOTE: SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS
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Many weeks ago, we (sci.virtual-worlds moderator, Bob Jacobson, and
co-moderator, Mark De Loura) posted a CFD to discuss a new newsgroup,
sci.virtual-worlds.apps, to focus on actual current and forthcoming
uses of virtual-worlds technology ("virtual reality"). We would
moderate the new newsgroup and hand over moderatorship of
sci.virtual-worlds to new moderators selected by s.v-w's sponsor, the
HIT Lab at the Washington Technology Center/UW.
The comments we received were unanimously supportive of this new
newsgroup. There were no suggestions for modifications (although
additional segmentations of sci.virtual-worlds were recommended).
Accordingly, we called for a vote.
Unfortunately, although there was the necessary support to create the
newsgroup, I (Bob) on the last day of voting inadvertently revealed
the tally of the vote in progress. According to USENET guidelines,
this invalidates the vote. I'm sorry for this. We could have
proceeded to serve you more quickly, but a few vocal USENET users
objected that this would defeat the guidelines. Rather than
permitting more bandwidth and time to be consumed in flames, we're
asking for a revote.
Here's how to vote....
*************************
In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail
message to the address
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu
If your site does not understand that address, you might try:
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu@athena.mit.edu
mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can
help you address the mail properly. Posted votes will not be counted.
Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted. Your
mail should contain one of the following three lines, either in the
Subject or body of the mail message:
vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps yes
vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps no
vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps abstain
The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation
of the newsgroup. The third line cancels any previous vote for or
against the creation of the newsgroup. Multiple voting messages from
the same person must be sent from the same address. If multiple votes
are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only
one counted.
You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its receipt,
within two days. If you do not, or if you have some other problem
with voting, you can get help by sending mail to
postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu.
All votes must be received by Tue, Oct 19 18:00 GMT.
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Thank you for your vote.
--
Bob Jacobson Mark De Loura
Moderator Co-Moderator
sci.virtual-worlds sci.virtual-worlds
cyberoid@u.washington.edu madsax@u.washington.edu
From cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu Mon Oct 12 13:08:03 1992
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From: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.virtual-worlds.apps
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2nd CALL FOR REVOTE: SCI.VIRTUAL-WORLDS.APPS
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Many weeks ago, we (sci.virtual-worlds moderator, Bob Jacobson, and
co-moderator, Mark De Loura) posted a CFD to discuss a new newsgroup,
sci.virtual-worlds.apps, to focus on actual current and forthcoming
uses of virtual-worlds technology ("virtual reality"). We would
moderate the new newsgroup and hand over moderatorship of
sci.virtual-worlds to new moderators selected by s.v-w's sponsor, the
HIT Lab at the Washington Technology Center/UW.
The comments we received were unanimously supportive of this new
newsgroup. There were no suggestions for modifications (although
additional segmentations of sci.virtual-worlds were recommended).
Accordingly, we called for a vote.
Unfortunately, although there was the necessary support to create the
newsgroup, I (Bob) on the last day of voting inadvertently revealed
the tally of the vote in progress. According to USENET guidelines,
this invalidates the vote. I'm sorry for this. We could have
proceeded to serve you more quickly, but a few vocal USENET users
objected that this would defeat the guidelines. Rather than
permitting more bandwidth and time to be consumed in flames, we're
asking for a revote.
Here's how to vote....
*************************
In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail
message to the address
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu
If your site does not understand that address, you might try:
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu@athena.mit.edu
mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can
help you address the mail properly. Posted votes will not be counted.
Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted. Your
mail should contain one of the following three lines, either in the
Subject or body of the mail message:
vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps yes
vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps no
vote sci.virtual-worlds.apps abstain
The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation
of the newsgroup. The third line cancels any previous vote for or
against the creation of the newsgroup. Multiple voting messages from
the same person must be sent from the same address. If multiple votes
are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only
one counted.
You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its receipt,
within two days. If you do not, or if you have some other problem
with voting, you can get help by sending mail to
postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu.
All votes must be received by Tue, Oct 19 18:00 GMT.
*************************
This message is being posted to news.announce.newgroups,
sci.virtual-worlds, comp.human-factors, comp.simulation,
comp.graphics.visualization, and alt.cyberspace. It will also appear
on The WELL and will be forwarded to CompuServe and GEnie.
Thank you for your vote.
--
Bob Jacobson Mark De Loura
Moderator Co-Moderator
sci.virtual-worlds sci.virtual-worlds
cyberoid@u.washington.edu madsax@u.washington.edu
From cyberoid@u.washington.edu Mon Nov 2 15:42:35 1992
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From: Robert Jacobson <cyberoid@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RESULT: sci.virtual-worlds.apps passes 295:13
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"yes" votes (295):
Roger Jacobs <73767.3714@CompuServe.COM>
John Eagan <76130.2225@CompuServe.COM>
"Adam Feuer" <adamfast@u.washington.edu>
agri@pa.itd.com (/usr/spool/mail/agri)
Christopher Ahlberg <ahlberg@cs.chalmers.se>
Alex Butler (JRG ra) <alex@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk>
ansari@geo1b.mps.ohio-state.edu
ARHART@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU
aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Peter Rothman <avatarp@well.sf.ca.us>
axolotl@socs.uts.EDU.AU
bair@ihlpm.att.com
banister@cs.utexas.edu (Bradley B. Banister)
barchasd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (David Barchas)
bcutter@pdnis.paradyne.com (Brooks Cutter)
fluent!bd@Dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
bethmo@microsoft.com
bill@virga.rap.ucar.edu (Bill Myers)
Bill Cockayne <billc@apple.com>
Stupendous Man <BKOTTMANN@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL>
blau@ist.ucf.edu (Brian Blau)
Bob Jacobson <bluefire@well.sf.ca.us>
bobp@hal.com (Bob Pendleton)
BOCKJ@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
"Lawrence S. Brakmo" <brakmo@cs.arizona.edu>
breant@masi.ibp.fr (francois BREANT)
brett@iastate.edu
brian@audiofax.com (Brian TroxeLL)
bruniau@geant.cenatls.cena.dgac.fr (Christophe Bruniau)
brutzman@cs.nps.navy.mil (Don Brutzman)
bwj@ccd.harris.com (Bobby Johnson)
bxhv03@castle.edinburgh.ac.uk
c-crm@math.utah.edu
C.Atkins@massey.ac.nz
Caius Tenche <caius.tenche@canrem.com>
"Sanjay Castelino" <castelino@rbias.gmr.com>
Chris Byrne <cbyrne@hitl.washington.edu>
Craig Colvin <ccolvin@well.sf.ca.us>
ssi!cdr@uunet.UU.NET (Christopher D. Ramey)
Chris Shaw <cdshaw@cs.ualberta.ca>
chiner@nova.gmi.edu (Chris Hiner)
chm@bsun9.zfe.siemens.de
"Chris Holt" <Chris.Holt@newcastle.ac.uk>
Chris Esposito <chrise@atc.boeing.com>
COS.MARSHALL@GLASGOW-POLY.AC.UK
crash@ckctpa.uucp (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
cs105ta2@turing.scs.carleton.ca (Rick Wirthlin)
curtiss@burn.Colorado.EDU (Brian Curtiss)
d1b <D1BQC%CUNYVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
d39974@bike.pnl.gov
<d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se>
daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk
danjudd@forest.egr.msu.edu
parksoft!dave@cs.washington.edu (David Hendrix)
dbarberi@mailbox.syr.edu
Mark A. DeLoura <deloura@cs.unc.edu>
denham@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Scott Denham X7117)
dha@sunsrvr1.cci.com (Dana Allison)
dharrod@mariner.amc.edu.au (David Harrod)
digital@phantom.com (Patrick K. Kroupa)
David Murphy <djmurphy@wam.umd.edu>
dkfenger@sirius.UVic.CA (David Fenger)
dleclair@netlink.cts.com (Douglas LeClair)
Danger Mouse <dm@cpac.washington.edu>
dpifko@sirius.UVic.CA (Daniel Pifko)
dseal@armltd.co.uk (David Seal)
dsong@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Deyang Song)
Duane.Day@Corp.Sun.COM (Duane Day)
dwharper@eos.ncsu.edu
ebach@neuro.informatik.uni-ulm.de (Bernd Ebach (Softwarepraktikum SS92))
Erik Bailey <ebail@ctp.com>
Dave Ratcliffe <eds1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu>
efs@summa4.MV.COM (Ed Sinamark)
steven lawrence ellis <ellis@cis.ohio-state.edu>
til!erik@uunet.UU.NET (Erik Horstkotte)
Bill Farmer <farmer@gershwin.iml.mkhar.sharp.co.jp>
ssi!fcc@uunet.UU.NET (Frank C. Christofferson)
florelj@WKUVX1.BITNET
fmx@scs.leeds.ac.uk
forbes@icbm.att.com (Michael S Forbes)
Francis.Eric@Corp.Sun.COM (Eric Francis)
frankc@netcom.com (Frank Crowell)
friday@netcom.com (Carol Anne Ogdin)
g88b7912@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR SD BANGAY)
gay@dyincm.enet.dec.com
German W Bauer <gbauer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
"Gregory B. Newby" <gbnewby@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
geoffrey@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Geoff Thomas)
Glenn Golden <ggolden@msen.com>
"digital dave, 927-1052" <goppelt@SCFE.NWC.NAVY.MIL>
Grant Upton (Sooty) <GRANT_UPTON@PR1MEA.Prime.COM>
grau@castor.cs.uga.edu (Joerg 'SPROCKETS' Grau)
grether@cvtserv1.verfahrenstechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Bernd Grether (sorescu))
Georges Grinstein <grinstei@cs.ulowell.edu>
gsingh@iss.nus.sg (Gurminder Singh)
gstecker@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (George Stecker)
gt0138c@prism.gatech.edu (Dave - the - Mage)
hanyeu@leland.stanford.edu
James Harrison <harrison@cs.ubc.ca>
haslam@ecn.purdue.edu (Edward Haslam)
hawk@iastate.edu
heizer%imagine@sdsu.edu (Ms. Lisa Heizer)
Mark Henry <HENRYC93@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Lew Hitchner <hitchner@riacs.edu>
Human Int. Technology Lab <hlab@u.washington.edu>
"Robbin R. Hough" <hough@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
hst@heinihh.hanse.de (Postmaster)
Hugues Lafarge <hugues@afp.com>
hulberm%orion.dnet@ecs (MARK HULBER)
IDS07215@ALF.APPSTATE.EDU
infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante)
irwin@galton.uchicago.edu (Mark Irwin)
itema@coi.pw.edu.pl
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
jake@apollo.hp.com
Rob Borsari <jake@melmac.umd.edu>
James.A.Landay@GEM.GARNET.CS.CMU.EDU
james@unidata.com (James Powell)
bagend!jan@gatech.edu (Jan Isley)
jcs@earth.accelr8.com (Joe Steger)
jdymond@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jason Dymond)
jeb@jupiter.risc.rockwell.com (Joseph E. Baker)
edsr!jem@uunet.UU.NET (John E. Mendenhall)
jessea@vpmeu015.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher)
jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
jfw@neuro.duke.edu (John F. Whitehead)
jg@cci.dk (Jorgen Gustafsson)
jgm@cs.brown.edu (Jonathan Monsarrat)
John Morrison <jm@mak.com>
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu>
jon@vart.mss.ctaeng.com (jon mcswain)
David Jones <jonesd@jasper.ucq.edu.au>
"Josh N. Pritikin" <jpab+@andrew.cmu.edu>
jpl@fct.unl.pt
Patrick Gosling <jpmg@eng.cam.ac.uk>
jsmith@king.mcs.drexel.edu
"Jan Sondergaard" <jsonderg@us.oracle.com>
jsuttor@netcom.com (Jeff Suttor)
jto@rieska.oulu.fi (Jarkko Oikarinen)
Jack Taylor <JTT@icf.hrb.com>
kaba@wintermute.freeside.north.de (Kai Bartels)
"Kai-Mikael J\d\d-Aro" <kai@nada.kth.se>
"Michael L. Kaufman" <kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu>
"Kim (K.L.) Curran" <kcurran@bnr.ca>
kdiamond@panix.com (Ken Diamond)
keith@elvis.tgivan.wimsey.bc.ca (Keith Vincent)
Kenny Meyer <kennym@well.sf.ca.us>
"Kevin L. Carlen" <KEVINC@CHESS.EISC.UTOLEDO.EDU>
kevino@ichigo.os.nasu.toshiba.co.jp (Kevino(NS))
kitt@reed.edu (Eric Laursen)
kj@Solbourne.COM (Ken Sullivan)
kjb@gdstech.grumman.com (Ken Bongort)
klassen@sol.UVic.CA (Melvin Klassen)
koopman@server1.ctc.com
kowa@davis.uni-koblenz.de (Sonja Kowalewski)
kozlowsk@acs.ucalgary.ca (Don M. Kozlowski)
Kummerer Mark <kummere@ecf.toronto.edu>
LANGLEY@MECAN1.maine.edu
Matt J. Lavoie <lavoie@cs.unc.edu>
lee@luke.rsg.hac.com (C. Lee)
lemordan@imag.fr (jacques lemordant)
lhe@sics.se (Lars-Henrik Eriksson)
lizard@cats.UCSC.EDU (Raul Essig)
Michael A Cecere <mac20@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>
Andrew Stoker <mac742@cent1.lancs.ac.uk>
"Marvin W. Acklin" <macklin@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
magee@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca (Lochlan)
Magnus Olsson <magnus@thep.lu.se>
marc@mica.berkeley.edu (Marc DeGroot)
"Picardi Maria" <mariap@atc.ll.mit.edu>
Marius Ibenhardt Watz <mariusw@ifi.uio.no>
mark%zeus@uunet.UU.NET (Mark Wilson)
markm@ee.ubc.ca (mark milligan)
MARKROSE@msu.edu
matti@arbw3.kf.tu-berlin.de (matthias roetting)
matwood%wolsely@cs.utah.edu
mauro@ipvvis.unipv.it (Mauro Mosconi)
Max Minkoff <max@hitl.washington.edu>
Dr Martin R Aylett <maylett@srd.bt.co.uk>
mc_pottier@pnlg.pnl.gov
mcgregoa@cognos.COM (Alayne McGregor)
mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus)
Mark Defranza <mdef@u.washington.edu>
Maarten van Egmond <megmond@cs.vu.nl>
mel@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
merelo%yorick.usc.edu@usc.edu (Juan Julian Merelo)
Michael_Oltz@cornell.edu
michaelh@stud.cs.uit.no (Michael Hinz)
mishaal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mashal Abdulra Almashan)
Hans Mitloehner <mitloehn@exaib.wu-wien.ac.at>
"Matthew J. Conway" <mjc4y@opal.cs.Virginia.EDU>
maurice <MJFORRES%SUVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
mkibler@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Mike Kibler - EE/ME 127)
mlewis@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Matthew Lewis)
mmailand@gumbo.age.lsu.edu (Mike Mailander)
mmurrain@hamp.hampshire.edu
Diego Montefusco <montefus@pluto.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Greg Morrow <morrow@physics.rice.edu>
mphbj639@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Stephen Cristol)
mute@wpi.WPI.EDU (Josh Brandt)
Robert Myhre <myhre@plains.NoDak.edu>
n8735053@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Iain)
neilb@scs.leeds.ac.uk
newcomb@enews.nrl.navy.mil (Dale Newcomb)
Neil A Haldar <nhaldar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
olivers@xenox.w.open.de (Oliver Schlueter)
sessun!orth@uunet.UU.NET (John Orth)
Mark Pesce <osendai@well.sf.ca.us>
NICOLAS-MAXIME PAIEMENT <paien00@dmi.usherb.ca>
per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland)
Peter Burgstaller <peter@cosy.sbg.ac.at>
phillip@tag.co.uk (Phillip Trotter)
pierre@kaboom.PRPA.Philips.COM (Pierre Uszynski)
Pietro.Zanarini@crs4.it
piggy@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au (La Monte Yarroll)
"Paul J. Metzger" <pjm@BBN.COM>
pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie
prc <prc@gec-mrc.co.uk>
psrc@pegasus.att.com (Paul S R Chisholm)
RAVEN Winter <raven@lclark.edu>
Ron Barnett <rbarnett@grits.valdosta.peachnet.edu>
Richard Jones [Rat] <rda753x@nella5.cc.monash.edu.au>
Adam J Baker <redearth@kauri.vuw.ac.nz>
RFJ5667@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
"Ricardo.Silva" <ricardo@muttley.fc.ul.pt>
Riccardo Zilio <riccardo@orion.sixcom.it>
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rick@oscar.sod.ncsu.edu (Richard Zobel)
rji@Cs.Nott.AC.UK
rmg53668@dcl-nxt53.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan Martin Grant)
R J Williams <rodw@cbl.leeds.ac.uk>
rom@freja.ericsson.se (Robert Malmgren TK/DG)
Ron.Currier@East.Sun.COM (Ron Currier - Sun BOS)
rmsdell!root@uunet.UU.NET (Yanek Martinson)
rpe@pastek.cray.com (Roland Piquepaille)
rrg@vcah.EDU.AU (Rafael Rodriguez)
rtw@mtuxj.att.com
russ@xp.psych.nyu.edu (Russell Phillips)
russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk
s903040@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Christopher Francis Anderson)
"Kelly J. Salsbery" <salsbery@mailbox.syr.edu>
Sandy Charnel <sandy@acad.wit.edu>
Saul Tannenbaum <SAUL_SY@hnrc.tufts.edu>
savage@dg-rtp.dg.com (Ed Savage)
sflinter@cs.tcd.ie (Stephen Flinter)
"Pat (P.) O'Shaughnessey" <shags@bnr.ca>
sharkey@robots.ox.ac.uk
Stephen Foy <shf@access.digex.com>
short@asf.com (Lee Short)
Scott Northrop <skyhawk@u.washington.edu>
Mike Shorten <sl319001@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
SLB96@CC.USU.EDU
Bob Sloane <SLOANE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
slootman@evs2.uia.ac.be (Wim Slootmans)
Sean McCusker <smccusk@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
smoot@cs.berkeley.edu (Steve Smoot)
sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
specter@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brad Banister)
Shane McEwan <spm@dar.csiro.au>
J|rgen Nilsson <spock@csd.uu.se>
ssd@tad.eds.com (Sean Dowd)
ssmythe@bellahs.com (Steve Smythe PSE)
stuart@nynexst.com (Rory Stuart)
David Reeve Sward <sward+@cmu.edu>
swirsky@mv.us.adobe.com (Robert Swirsky)
t92man@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se (Mikael Andersson)
"Timothy J. Anderson" <ta10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Mark Takacs <tak@hitl.washington.edu>
tesuito@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Terry Suitor)
Tom F Portante <tfp@world.std.com>
me me me me... <thiel@u.washington.edu>
tilley@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com
Tuomas L{hdeoja <tlahdeoj@vipunen.hut.fi>
""T.S. Davies"" <tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu>
umn@cadre.com (Uttam M. Narsu)
usenet@spdg.COM (Rolland Waters)
vamplew@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Peter Vamplew)
Amitabh Varshney <varshney@cs.unc.edu>
vcsc684@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (student)
Bill Wake <wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu>
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
wampner@next1.acme.ucf.edu (Eric Wampner)
wbwqc <WBWQC%CUNYVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
Alan Wexelblat <wex@MEDIA-LAB.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>
<winfia@rpi.edu>
wirth@igd.fhg.de
wolf@molinf.molout.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Wolf)
wolf@molout.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Wolf)
wwallace@ucrengr.ucr.edu (wayne wallace)
yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
John H Zucco <zucco@gargoyle.csee.usf.edu>
"no" votes (13):
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Jesus Eugenio Sanchez Pena)
al198723@next00.mty.itesm.mx
alex@venus.nbg.sub.org
barrett@cc.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
c28f62@world.std.com (Ross H. Perot)
david@indetech.com (David Kuder)
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
gelly@persoft.com (Mitch Gelly)
Jon Leech <leech@cs.unc.edu>
pseudo!mjn@uunet.UU.NET (Murray Nesbitt)
tkoppel%server@carl.org (Ted Koppel)
yarvin-norman@CS.YALE.EDU (Norman Yarvin)
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