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From k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu Tue Nov 22 10:59:39 1994
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
======================
Group Name: soc.culture.saudi
Status: Unmoderated
Distribution: Worldwide
Summary: Discussion about the culture of Saudi Arabia
Proposed by: K. Faid (k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu)
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
unmoderated newsgroup soc.culture.saudi.
CHARTER
=======
soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia, as well as the role of Saudi Arabia in the
political, religious, and financial matters in both the regional and
global scope.
The discussions will be in English.
RATIONALE
=========
Saudi Arabia has a unique role in the cultural, political, religious,
and financial affairs of both the Middle East and the world, if only
for its mineral resources, and Islamic holy sites, and proximity to
political hot-buttons.
While these matters have some existing groups (e.g. soc.culture.arabic,
talk.politics.mideast, soc.religion.islam, ..etc.), they are scattered
all over, and there is a genuine need for a forum to discuss these
matters in a united group with a narrower emphasis.
It is expected that participants in these discussions will include
Saudi citizens (students, etc.), as well as people around the world
interested in Saudi Arabia from a political, religious, or financial
perspective
RFD and CFV
===========
The discussion will be held in news.groups. The discussion will start
>from now and will last for three weeks, until December 11, 1994. A
Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted shortly after the end of the
discussion period. The voting will be conducted by a third-party.
From bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu Tue Jan 24 22:54:39 1995
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From: bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.misc,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.kuwait,alt.religion.islam
Subject: CFV: soc.culture.saudi
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 2)
Unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.saudi Culture and politics of Saudi Arabia.
Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 15 February 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Voting questions
should be directed to Ed Bailey (bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu). For questions
about the proposed group, contact K. Faid <k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>.
CHARTER
soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia, as well as its role in the political,
religious, and financial matters in both the regional and global
scope. Discussions are to encompass all viewpoints and are not to be
limited in any fashion to any one over the other. In particular,
discussions about the country's politics and economics are permitted.
HOW TO VOTE
You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
voting@calvin.ph.utexas.edu
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Posts can not be
counted. You will recieve a reply within a few days after your votes
are recieved which indicates how I think you voted - please mail
corrections immediately.
PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS.
Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not monkey with the group names. Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program and if it can't determine your vote you will be asked to
re-vote.
For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the same
line. Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For are
equivalent, as are No and Against. Capitalization is not important. If you
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reply inserts.
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"I vote against all of them." Please use the form.
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Give your real name here:
[Your Vote] Group
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[ ] soc.culture.saudi
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You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have. Only
one vote per account, regardless of how many people use that account. Later
votes replace previous ones. Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of how
many accounts you have, one vote per account regardless of how many people
use that account. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.
Thank you for taking the time to vote,
Ed Bailey
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From bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu Sun Feb 12 22:48:21 1995
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From: bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu (Ed Bailey)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.saudi
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SECOND AND FINAL CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 2)
Unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.saudi Culture and politics of Saudi Arabia.
Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 15 February 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Voting questions
should be directed to Ed Bailey (bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu). For questions
about the proposed group, contact K. Faid <k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>.
CHARTER
soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia, as well as its role in the political,
religious, and financial matters in both the regional and global
scope. Discussions are to encompass all viewpoints and are not to be
limited in any fashion to any one over the other. In particular,
discussions about the country's politics and economics are permitted.
HOW TO VOTE
You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
voting@calvin.ph.utexas.edu
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Posts can not be
counted. You will recieve a reply within a few days after your votes
are recieved which indicates how I think you voted - please mail
corrections immediately.
PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS.
Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not monkey with the group names. Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program and if it can't determine your vote you will be asked to
re-vote.
For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the same
line. Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For are
equivalent, as are No and Against. Capitalization is not important. If you
don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters ">" that your
reply inserts.
You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or
"I vote against all of them." Please use the form.
UseVote 3.0 Make Ballot - (c) 1993,94 Ron Dippold
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
soc.culture.saudi Ballot <SCS-0002> (Don't remove this marker)
Give your real name here:
Vote Group
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[ YES ] sample.group.you.support
[ NO ] sample.group.you oppose
[ ] soc.culture.saudi
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have. Only
one vote per account, regardless of how many people use that account. Later
votes replace previous ones. Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of how
many accounts you have, one vote per account regardless of how many people
use that account. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.
BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
All votes received by February 5th, 23:59 GMT have been counted and ACKed.
Vote acknowledgements sent to the following addresses have bounced. These
votes *have* been counted, but I have been unable to reply to their mail.
If you voted, but you have NOT received an ACK *and* your name is NOT listed
below, then your vote was probably lost somewhere in the ether. Please
send another vote to voting@ziggy.ph.utexas.edu.
** None **
The following people have sent malformed ballots which have not been
superceded by a Yes, No, or Abstain vote. These people should revote.
alphacad@applelink.apple.com Alain Chammas
! No vote statement in message
alshawyj@watmail.ucr.edu Jason M Alshawy
! No vote statement in message
anderson@philadelphia.libertynet.org A. Engler Anderson
! No vote statement in message
behbehan@winnie.fit.edu Green Castle Lover.
! No vote statement in message
digitek326@aol.com Digitek326
! No vote statement in message
E56OGUOCHA@sask.usask.ca None given
! No ballot
vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@quake.xnet.com
! No vote statement in message
Thank you for taking the time to vote,
Ed Bailey
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Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin | u70262@c.nersc.gov, or pnab643@chpc.utexas.edu
Austin TX 78712 | "No pithy quotes. Just email addresses."
From bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu Fri Feb 24 18:27:12 1995
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From: bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.misc,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.kuwait,alt.religion.islam
Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.saudi fails 78:21
Supersedes: <soc.culture.saudi-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
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RESULT
unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi fails 78:21
Voting for soc.culture.saudi closed 23:59 GMT, 15 February 1995.
There were 78 YES votes and 21 NO votes, for a total of 99 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 12 invalid ballots. 13 ballots were superceded
or discarded as duplicates.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may
not be voted on again for six months.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Voting questions should
be directed to Ed Bailey (bailey@hagar.ph.utexas.edu). For questions about
the proposal, contact K. Faid <k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>.
CHARTER
soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia, as well as its role in the political,
religious, and financial matters in both the regional and global
scope. Discussions are to encompass all viewpoints and are not to be
limited in any fashion to any one over the other. In particular,
discussions about the country's politics and economics are permitted.
soc.culture.saudi Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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100336.3562@compuserve.com Olivier Da Lage
a-majda@microsoft.com Majd Abbar
aaab@acs.ryerson.ca Al Aab - CNED/W94
AAADAS@CIVIL.watstar.uwaterloo.ca Adnan A. Adas
aalhamda@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Abdullah
adil@umiacs.UMD.EDU Adil E. Rajput
al-muhan@cae.wisc.edu Abdulrahman Muhanna
alanzif@cs.rpi.edu Fawaz Al-Anzi
alavizad@sas.upenn.edu Seyed A Alavizadeh
alhammak@ucs.orst.edu alhammad, khalid
alsarraj@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Diya M. Al-Sarraj
am461@freenet.carleton.ca Mokbel Sayed
angel@sask.usask.ca Joseph F. Angel
ault@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
badr@cs.washington.edu Badr H. Al-Badr
BBICKETT@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu Brenda Bickett
bds@ipp-garching.mpg.de Dr Bruce Scott
beast@netcom.com Jeffrey A. Kintscher
best@cs.bu.edu Azer Bestavros
bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison
bnazarya@freenet.columbus.oh.us Birgit Nazaryan
brianvdb@netcom.com Brian Van Den Broeke
canosk83@npeeserv.eelab.newpaltz.edu Mentor Cana
cbstone@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Chris Stone
ealarfaj@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU Al-Arfaj
elh@login.dknet.dk Emil Lodal Hansen
franklig@aztec.inre.asu.edu Greg Franklin
glenn_m@cix.compulink.co.uk Glenn Millen
habib@inforamp.net HABIB NAJJAR
HAC@Jetson.UH.EDU Heidi Collier
hh@hhdo.venture.net Henning Holtschneider
hzhal@chevron.com Zaki Al-Awwami
IDEM@sask.usask.ca idem
idoh@cais.cais.com Haisam K. Ido
iskandar@u.washington.edu Alex Khalil
jaimecs@mat.uc.pt Jaime Carvalho e Silva
jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU James Chokey
jfsimon@crl.com Joseph F. Simon
jhensche@bechtel.com Jim Henschel
jmjebree@eos.ncsu.edu jebreen jebreen
John@lorca.demon.co.uk John Heelan
jpk@knoware.nl Jan Pieter Kunst
khan@JTP.CS.NYU.EDU Hasnain Khan
ksalha@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Khalid Salha
lebanese@mail.utexas.edu Fayrouz
lindroth@tpa.cent.com Ulf Lindroth
lsaid@netcom.com L. Said
malgahta@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Algahtani
medawar@panix.com bassem medawar
mhatz@raven.phs.com Mike Hatz
natheer@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Suleman Abdulla Alnatheer
OGUOCHA@edison.usask.ca oguocha
owp@owpcom.demon.co.uk Christopher Ogg
pcr@ic.net
pierre@shell.Portal.COM Pierre Uszynski
PRMADER@lmsmgr.lerc.nasa.gov Michelle Mader
radrayer@panix.com Rebecca Drayer
ramahi@poboxb.enet.dec.com Omar M. Ramahi
rambo@sam.win-uk.net Somayia Djani . London .UK
rblum@s.psych.uiuc.edu Ron Blum
RSCAMER@PB1.PacBell.COM Steve Cameron
Ruben.Gischler@let.uva.nl ruben gischler
rufinus@dxcern.cern.ch J. Rufinus
s639823@aix2.uottawa.ca Michel Le Sann
saleh@npac.syr.edu saleh elmohamed
Samiha_Ragab@antero.pe.utexas.edu Samiha K. Ragab
shaibi@vonneumann.ece.wisc.edu Mohammed AlShaibi
shaunc@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM Forneal Sanka
sjsmith@cs.UMD.EDU Stephen Joseph Smith
teitelba@ccsg.tau.ac.il Joshua Teitelbaum
tonebone@ai.mit.edu Tony Ezzat
tuscadero@aol.com Rogers Cadenhead
wanet@ix.netcom.com A Walker
werner@cs.utexas.edu Werner Uhrig
whamdy@qualcomm.com Walid Hamdy
wingman@WPI.EDU Yusef B. Albader
yacoub@ix.netcom.com Marwan Yacoub
yadallee@DoctOr.ampr.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee
Voted No
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aa05@Lehigh.EDU Abdulmalik Alhusseini
Bernad.Batinic@psychol.uni-giessen.de Bernad Batinic
booda@lynx.noo.navy.mil Martin H. Booda
byeakel@rahul.net Bill Yeakel
cward@Think.COM Christopher Ward
david@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu david
dc@panix.com David W. Crawford
feminist@eskimo.com William Affleck-Asch
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan
gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu Basalat Ali Raja
jcmurphy@smurftest.cit.buffalo.edu Jeff Murphy
jg2560@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu John R. Grout
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson
larrys@io.com Larry Smith
majid@Email.ENST.Fr Fazal Majid
marc@algorithmics.com Marc Moorcroft
mmt@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri
rew@moontarz.nuance.com Ryan Waldron
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown
Abstained
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crouchkp@flidh103.delcoelect.com K.P. Crouch
otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu M. Otto
Zack@beautu.win-uk.net Somaya Al Dajani.London UK
Votes in error
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ahmed@umr.edu Ahmed Mustafa
! No vote statement in message
alphacad@applelink.apple.com Alain Chammas
! No vote statement in message
alshawyj@watmail.ucr.edu Jason M Alshawy
! No vote statement in message
anderson@philadelphia.libertynet.org A. Engler Anderson
! No vote statement in message
behbehan@winnie.fit.edu Green Castle Lover.
! No vote statement in message
digitek326@aol.com Digitek326
! No vote statement in message
E56OGUOCHA@sask.usask.ca None given
! No ballot
mahmed@hpb.hwc.ca Mohammed Ahmed
! No vote statement in message
nick@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca Nicholas Fitzpatrick
! No vote statement in message
reed@banshee.cb.cshl.org Corprew Reed
! No vote statement in message
RUPARELIARS@wofford.edu
! No vote statement in message
vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@quake.xnet.com
! No vote statement in message
Thank you for taking the time to vote,
Ed Bailey
From K.Faid@launchpad.unc.edu Fri Aug 25 17:00:52 1995
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From: K.Faid@launchpad.unc.edu (K. Faid)
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Subject: RFD: soc.culture.saudi
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi
Summary: Discussion about the culture of Saudi Arabia
Proposed by: K. Faid <k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
unmoderated newsgroup soc.culture.saudi.
RATIONALE:
Saudi Arabia has a role in the cultural, political, religious, and
financial affairs of both the Middle East and the world, if only for
its mineral resources, Islamic holy sites, and proximity to political
hot-buttons.
While these matters have some existing groups (e.g.
soc.culture.arabic, talk.politics.mideast, soc.religion.islam, etc.),
they are scattered all over, and there is a genuine need for a forum
to discuss these matters in a unified group with a narrower emphasis.
alt.culture.saudi was created as an interim solution, and is seeing a
decent amount of traffic. However, being an alt group, it has a
limited propagation, which impairs its usefulness.
CHARTER: soc.culture.saudi
soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia.
PROCEDURE:
The discussion will be held in news.groups. The discussion and will
last for three weeks. A Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted shortly
after the end of the discussion period. The voting will be conducted
by a third-party.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD, as well as the CFV will be crossposted to the following
relevant groups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
soc.culture.arabic, alt.culture.saudi, soc.culture.kuwait,
soc.culture.jordan, soc.culture.egyptian, soc.culture.maghreb,
soc.culture.syrian, and soc.culture.palestine.
From bill@netagw.com Tue Sep 26 18:22:02 1995
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From: bill@netagw.com (Bill Aten)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.culture.saudi,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.egyptian,soc.culture.jordan,soc.culture.kuwait,soc.culture.maghreb,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.syria
Subject: CFV: soc.culture.saudi
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.saudi Culture of Saudi Arabia.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Oct 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions
only, contact the votetaker, Bill Aten <bill@netagw.com>. For questions
about the proposed group, contact the proponent, K. Faid
<k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>.
RATIONALE: soc.culture.saudi
Saudi Arabia has a role in the cultural, political, religious, and
financial affairs of both the Middle East and the world, if only for
its mineral resources, Islamic holy sites, and proximity to political
hot-buttons.
While these matters have some existing groups (e.g. soc.culture.arabic,
talk.politics.mideast, soc.religion.islam, etc.), they are scattered all
over, and there is a genuine need for a forum to discuss these matters
in a unified group with a narrower emphasis.
alt.culture.saudi was created as an interim solution, and is seeing a
decent amount of traffic. However, being an alt group, it has a
limited propagation, which impairs its usefulness.
CHARTER: soc.culture.saudi
Soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia. Topics regarding the politics and culture of
the Arab world in general and not specific to Saudi Aarbia are to be
discussed elsewhere.
END CHARTER.
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything
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the ballot. It will be greatly appreciated by the votetaker if you do NOT
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IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES
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counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with
an automated acknowledgement by e-mail. If you do not receive one within
several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
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Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
If you later change your mind, you may vote again. To erase your vote and
eliminate your address and vote from the final results listing, vote again
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will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.
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NO or ABSTAIN next to the item in the ballot. Distribution of pre-filled
in ballots or modified copies of this CFV is considered voting fraud and
should be reported immediately to the votetaker or the UVV <contact@uuv.org>.
Anonymous votes will not be accepted. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms
are considered anonymous votes (the vote must be mailed directly from the
voter to the votetaker).
Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely
(this is the only difference between the two).
In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard
operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.
There will be a five-day period following the voting period during which
the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed.
The requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes must be YES.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
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DO NOT redistribute this CFV in any manner whatsoever. Only the votetaker,
the news.announce.newgroups moderator, and the proponent (if specifically
authorized by the votetaker) are permitted to distribute copies of this CFV.
All copies distributed by these individuals will be complete and unmodified.
The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to
which it is crossposted (including news.announce.newgroups and news.groups),
and the votetaker's e-mail CFV server which can be reached at
<saudi-cfv-request@netagw.com>
The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender. Your message may
be left empty because any contents will be ignored.
DISTRIBUTION
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soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.egyptian, soc.culture.jordan,
soc.culture.kuwait, soc.culture.maghreb, soc.culture.palestine,
soc.culture.syria
From bill@netagw.com Fri Oct 6 18:34:25 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: bill@netagw.com (Bill Aten)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.culture.saudi,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.egyptian,soc.culture.jordan,soc.culture.kuwait,soc.culture.maghreb,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.syria
Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.saudi
Supersedes: <12392.30168.432387@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 6 Oct 1995 22:34:16 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 164
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Expires: 18 Oct 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <soc.culture.saudi-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
References: <41ldlv$ec3@rodan.UU.NET> <12392.30168.432387@uunet.uu.net>
Reply-To: saudi-vote@netagw.com
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Archive-Name: soc.culture.saudi
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7671 news.groups:169624 alt.culture.saudi:1671 soc.culture.arabic:48862 soc.culture.egyptian:5234 soc.culture.jordan:3127 soc.culture.kuwait:4479 soc.culture.maghreb:9769 soc.culture.palestine:15559 soc.culture.syria:3635
LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.saudi Culture of Saudi Arabia.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Oct 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: K. Faid <k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>.
Votetaker: Bill Aten <bill@netagw.com>
RATIONALE: soc.culture.saudi
Saudi Arabia has a role in the cultural, political, religious, and
financial affairs of both the Middle East and the world, if only for
its mineral resources, Islamic holy sites, and proximity to political
hot-buttons.
While these matters have some existing groups (e.g. soc.culture.arabic,
talk.politics.mideast, soc.religion.islam, etc.), they are scattered all
over, and there is a genuine need for a forum to discuss these matters
in a unified group with a narrower emphasis.
alt.culture.saudi was created as an interim solution, and is seeing a
decent amount of traffic. However, being an alt group, it has a
limited propagation, which impairs its usefulness.
CHARTER: soc.culture.saudi
Soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia. Topics regarding the politics and culture of
the Arab world in general and not specific to Saudi Aarbia are to be
discussed elsewhere.
END CHARTER.
HOW TO VOTE
Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything
below the "END OF BALLOT" line. Do not erase anything between these lines,
and do not change the group name. In other words, remove everything except
the ballot. It will be greatly appreciated by the votetaker if you do NOT
forward the entire CFV back to me--this mail is archived.
Give your name on the line that asks for it. To vote, place a YES in the
brackets to vote for it, or place a NO in the brackets to vote against it.
If you don't want to vote on the group, place an ABSTAIN in the brackets.
If you leave the bracket blank, your vote will be rejected for failure to
cast a vote. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote
characters (">") that your reply inserts.
Then MAIL the ballot to: <saudi-vote@netagw.com>
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.
Quick voting checklist:
1) Fill in the ballot form below. Don't forget to include your Real Name.
2) Delete everything but the ballot in your reply to this CFV.
3) Make sure your reply goes to <saudi-vote@netagw.com>.
===== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything BEFORE this line =============
*** PLEASE ***
DO NOT alter, modify, or delete any of the information in this ballot!
soc.culture.saudi Ballot
<SCS-0002> (Do not remove this marker!)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Examples showing how to indicate your vote (DO NOT vote in this section):
[ YES ] example.yes.vote
[ NO ] example.no.vote
[ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
In order to properly record your vote, please provide your REAL NAME and
indicate your desired vote in the following sections:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Give your Real Name here (on this line) -->
(If you do not give your real name, your vote may be rejected.)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Insert your vote inside the brackets for each newsgroup listed below:
Your Vote Group
--------- -----
[ ] soc.culture.saudi
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
===== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything AFTER this line ====================
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES
Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote
counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with
an automated acknowledgement by e-mail. If you do not receive one within
several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.
Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
If you later change your mind, you may vote again. To erase your vote and
eliminate your address and vote from the final results listing, vote again
using the CANCEL example shown above. Just be aware that duplicate votes
will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.
If anyone gave you a pre-completed ballot which did not leave the voting
choice up to you, you should modify the vote to reflect your choice of YES,
NO or ABSTAIN next to the item in the ballot. Distribution of pre-filled
in ballots or modified copies of this CFV is considered voting fraud and
should be reported immediately to the votetaker or the UVV <contact@uuv.org>.
Anonymous votes will not be accepted. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms
are considered anonymous votes (the vote must be mailed directly from the
voter to the votetaker).
Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely
(this is the only difference between the two).
In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard
operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.
There will be a five-day period following the voting period during which
the published vote list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed.
The requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes must be YES.
When in doubt, ask the votetaker.
OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV
DO NOT redistribute this CFV in any manner whatsoever. Only the votetaker,
the news.announce.newgroups moderator, and the proponent (if specifically
authorized by the votetaker) are permitted to distribute copies of this CFV.
All copies distributed by these individuals will be complete and unmodified.
The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to
which it is crossposted (including news.announce.newgroups and news.groups),
and the votetaker's e-mail CFV server which can be reached at
<saudi-cfv-request@netagw.com>
The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender. Your message may
be left empty because any contents will be ignored.
DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross-posted to:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, alt.culture.saudi,
soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.egyptian, soc.culture.jordan,
soc.culture.kuwait, soc.culture.maghreb, soc.culture.palestine,
soc.culture.syria
soc.culture.saudi Bounce List
(No need to revote)
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KA@ping.at Khalid Aldowaihy
From bill@netagw.com Tue Oct 17 21:41:02 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: bill@netagw.com (Bill Aten)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.culture.saudi,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.egyptian,soc.culture.jordan,soc.culture.kuwait,soc.culture.maghreb,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.syria
Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.saudi fails 73:23
Supersedes: <soc.culture.saudi-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 18 Oct 1995 01:40:57 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <soc.culture.saudi-RESULT@uunet.uu.net>
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RESULT
unmoderated group soc.culture.saudi fails 73:23
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Oct 1995.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: K. Faid <k.faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu>.
Votetaker: Bill Aten <bill@netagw.com>
There were 96 valid votes submitted during the voting period. Each proposed
newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at least
100 more YES than NO votes. The results are as follows:
soc.culture.saudi results - 96 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
73 23 : Yes No : No : soc.culture.saudi
1 abstaining vote and 2 invalid votes
The proposal failed.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are
raised, the proposal may not be voted on again for six months.
The remainder of the RESULT contains:
Newsgroups Line
Rationale
Charter
Final Voting Acknowledgements
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.culture.saudi Culture of Saudi Arabia.
RATIONALE: soc.culture.saudi
Saudi Arabia has a role in the cultural, political, religious, and
financial affairs of both the Middle East and the world, if only for
its mineral resources, Islamic holy sites, and proximity to political
hot-buttons.
While these matters have some existing groups (e.g. soc.culture.arabic,
talk.politics.mideast, soc.religion.islam, etc.), they are scattered all
over, and there is a genuine need for a forum to discuss these matters
in a unified group with a narrower emphasis.
alt.culture.saudi was created as an interim solution, and is seeing a
decent amount of traffic. However, being an alt group, it has a
limited propagation, which impairs its usefulness.
CHARTER: soc.culture.saudi
Soc.culture.saudi is intended to be an unmoderated forum for
discussion on issues relevant to the culture, people, resources, and
politics of Saudi Arabia. Topics regarding the politics and culture of
the Arab world in general and not specific to Saudi Aarbia are to be
discussed elsewhere.
END CHARTER.
FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
soc.culture.saudi Final Vote Ack
soc.culture.saudi ---+
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102055.3561@compuserve.com Mahmood Bukh Y
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alhalabi@umr.edu Maamoun C. Alhalabi Y
aljohar@neosoft.com Mansour Al-Johar Y
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cjlarse@svpal.org Christina Al-Sudairy Larse Y
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crouchkp@flidh107.delcoelect.com K. Crouch -
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dr@ICSI.Net Dan Rothschild Y
eaa3@Lehigh.EDU Eisa Aleisa Y
elkayri@gaul.csd.uwo.ca SAMI ELKHAYRI Y
essebar@cephag.observ-gr.fr ESSEBBAR Abderrahman Y
etrigan@rhyme.demon.co.uk Alan Fleming Y
faheem.zakaria@template.com Faheem Zakaria Y
george@hiwaay.net George Pollard Y
helena.etelaaho@macpost.uwasa.fi Helena Etelaaho Y
htana@ee.mcgill.ca HAZEM TAYSER NASEREDDIN Y
IDEM@sask.usask.ca Idem R.O. Y
iskandar@eesun2.tamu.edu Alexandre Khalil Y
jde1@ix.netcom.com Jerry Ennis Y
joe@decoy.uoregon.edu Joe St Sauver Y
joe@electrotex.com Joe Meadors Y
jonboy@io.org Trevor Tymchuk Y
jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson N
K.Faid@lambada.oit.unc.edu K Faid Y
KA@ping.at Khalid Aldowaihy Y
kaycam@aol.com Kay Hardy Campbell Y
kevincri@inetdirect.net Kevin Criss Y
kmitchel@direct.ca Kevin Mitchell N
lancec@cats.ucsc.edu Lance Chun N
lilzero@astral.magic.ca Karl J Borst N
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder Y
LIXRAAS@lin1.smf.nottingham.ac.uk Ahmed Alshum Y
LIXRWAK@lin1.smf.nottingham.ac.uk Wael Kortam Y
LIXRWAM@lin1.smf.nottingham.ac.uk Wafa Almobaireek Y
LSBUMGAR@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Lee S. Bumgarner Y
malgahta@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Moraya Algahtani Y
mmt@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar N
mwdaniel@students.uiuc.edu Michael Daniels Y
NARAHT@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU Randy Finder Y
nazeh@dutcb08.tudelft.nl Nazeh Al-Zubi Y
nelsonk@ix.netcom.com Ken Nelson N
nhn@netcom.com Adil Al-Hadithy Y
OGUOCHA@sask.usask.ca oguocha Y
olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar N
orc@pell.chi.il.us david parsons N
patl@skyclad.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti N
paustin@astro.ocis.temple.edu Pam Austin Y
periatha@chat.carleton.ca periathamby.j Y
pheonix@MIT.EDU Bilal A. Bhutta Y
phublou@innet.be Hublou, Patrick Y
ppatel@lynx.dac.neu.edu Parimal Patel N
radrayer@panix.com Rebecca Drayer Y
rbody@cuug.ab.ca Richard Body Y
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller N
robert.lipman@nist.gov Robert Lipman N
rrmasri@unity.ncsu.edu Rania Masri Y
ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan N
shafei@planet.net Nayel S. Shafei Y
Shrisha.Rao@lambada.oit.unc.edu Shrisha Rao N
slr@crl.com S. Rennacker Y
soliman@geotech.kuciv.kyoto-u.ac.jp Mohamed Soliman Y
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown N
Steve.Mcmahon@lambada.oit.unc.edu Steve McMahon Y
tccn@tccn.com Coralie Allen Y
tgreco@ee.net Todd Greco Y
Thilo.Pfennig@kiel.netsurf.de Thilo Pfennig N
thom8815@tao.sosc.osshe.edu Jeremy L. Thomas I Y
tlawson@email.develop.american.edu Todd C. Lawson Y
tmcrowe@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu Tracy Crowe Y
tqf02035@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu Tareq Fakhroo Y
turkialq@ns2.emirates.net.ae Turki Al-Qusaimi Y
vhermiz@uclink3.berkeley.edu Vivian Hermiz N
waleed@wuche.wustl.edu Waleed Al-Eisa Y
whamdy@qualcomm.com Walid Hamdy Y
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius Y
win95@execpc.com Allison al-Bishawi Y
ybukhash@lynx.dac.neu.edu Yousuf Bukhashim Y
Yves.Leduc@u-picardie.fr Yves Le Duc Y
zakharia@WPI.EDU Sany Zakharia Y
Votes in error
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g9426370@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA E.G. Ghanem
! No ballot
Gateway@disneys.oro.net Gateway
! No ballot
USENET FACT: Lurker
A person who reads/browses newsgroups but does not actively post.