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Baltic states (soc.culture.baltics)

From sommar@enea.se Mon Dec 14 20:26:12 1992
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From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
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This is a request for discussion of creating of the newsgroup
soc.culture.baltic, which I think is long overdue.

The group would be unmoderated.

The group would be devoted to the countries Estonia, Latvia and
Lithuania, often lumped together under the label "The Baltic states".

Topics would include culture, networking, language, politics,
shortly anything you expect from a soc.culture.* group.

The prime language in the group would be English, but the use of local
languages should not be condemned.

As some people might know there is also a LISTSERV list, BALT-L with
the same charter. This list is moderated, and the moderator Edis Bevan,
is doing an excellent job. I and Edis have discussed various ways of
connect BALT-L and s.c.baltic, but we have reached the conclusion that
there should be no regular connection to begin with. Unmoderating BALT-L
is out of the question, and a moderated soc.culture.* group seems in-
compatible with the Usnet spirit.

Despite the existance of BALT-L, I think there is a need for s.c.baltic.
If nothing else, a lot of the material in talk.politics.soviet, once
you filtered away Mutlu/Arigc, concerns the Baltic countries.

My planned schedule is to let the discussion period go before 
Christmas, and the start the vote around January 7th, when things
are back to normal.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se

From sommar@enea.se Wed Jan  6 21:01:31 1993
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This is a call for votes to create the newsgroup soc.culture.baltics.
I originially proposed the name s.c.baltic, but a simple poll I con-
ducted indicated that while s.c.baltic and s.c.baltics had about equal 
preference, s.c.baltic seems to have more anti-votes. Other proposals
did not gain much support.

To vote send mail me at sommar@enea.se, with a vote unambiguously
saying YES or NO to soc.culture.baltics. I will try acknowledge all
votes by mail. The voting starts with the appearance of this article 
and lasts to February 5th. This CFV will be repeated once during this 
period.

The group would be unmoderated.

The group would be devoted to the countries Estonia, Latvia and
Lithuania, often lumped together under the label "The Baltic states".

Topics would include culture, networking, language, politics,
shortly anything you expect from a soc.culture.* group.

The prime language in the group would be English, but the use of local
languages should not be condemned.

During the discussion people have expressed interest in at least
a one-way gateway from the BALT-L mailing list. I have had discussions
on this topic with Edis Bevan who is editing BALT-L, and we have
agreed not to set up something regular to begin with, but there
will surely appear some form of arrangement.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.

From sommar@enea.se Mon Jan 18 17:11:28 1993
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This is the second and last call for votes to create the newsgroup 
soc.culture.baltics. Of the votes I've received so far, I failed to
get acknowledge through for one voter:

erikt@tekig1.pen.tek.com

The text of the original CFV follows.

I originially proposed the name s.c.baltic, but a simple poll I con-
ducted indicated that while s.c.baltic and s.c.baltics had about equal 
preference, s.c.baltic seems to have more anti-votes. Other proposals
did not gain much support.

To vote send mail me at sommar@enea.se, with a vote unambiguously
saying YES or NO to soc.culture.baltics. I will try acknowledge all
votes by mail. The voting starts with the appearance of this article 
and lasts to February 5th. This CFV will be repeated once during this 
period.

The group would be unmoderated.

The group would be devoted to the countries Estonia, Latvia and
Lithuania, often lumped together under the label "The Baltic states".

Topics would include culture, networking, language, politics,
shortly anything you expect from a soc.culture.* group.

The prime language in the group would be English, but the use of local
languages should not be condemned.

During the discussion people have expressed interest in at least
a one-way gateway from the BALT-L mailing list. I have had discussions
on this topic with Edis Bevan who is editing BALT-L, and we have
agreed not to set up something regular to begin with, but there
will surely appear some form of arrangement.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se

From sommar@enea.se Thu Feb 18 23:14:48 1993
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Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.baltics passes 135:18
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The voting for soc.culture.baltics is over. I received 136 Yes votes
and 19 No votes. However, I accidently deleted one Yes vote, and one
No vote was a duplicate, so the final result of 135 in favor 18 against, 
which fulfils the criterias for a group to pass. Thus after the regular 
five-day waiting period the group will be created.

Thanks to everyone who voted. Below is a list of the people who voted.

NO votes:
Brian Kenney <kenney@saturn.hsi.com>
Dave Carr (carr@acsu.buffalo.edu)
Dave V. Schaller <schaller@hsi.com>
Eric J. Olson <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
Hans Huttel <hans@iesd.auc.dk>
Hi-keeba! (BIRMINGH@FNAL.FNAL.GOV)
Juha Iisakka (isac@rieska.oulu.fi)
Leonard J. Peirce (peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu)
Michael Polymenakos (michael.polymenakos@factory.com)
Mike Palmer <palmer@hsi.com>
Murray Nesbitt (pseudo!mjn@relay.EU.net)
Patrick Tufts <zippy@berry.cs.brandeis.edu>
Paul Maclauchlan (paul@moore.com)
Richard H. Miller (rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu)
Ronald V. Dziuk Jr. <dziuk@hsi.com>
Thomas Wang <wang@hpdmsjlm.cup.hp.com>
emcguire@mother.intellection.com
mhpower@Athena.MIT.EDU

YES votes:
<U17335@UICVM.BITNET>
<tarmo@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au>
ANALYTICAL@RSC3.anu.edu.au
Aaron L Dickey (kieran@world.std.com)
Agris Taurins <neodata!taurins@sparky.IMD.Sterling.COM>
Ahmed Al-Ashabb <ahmed@mansun.lut.ac.uk>
Anders Andersson  <andersa@Riga.DoCS.UU.SE>
Anders.Engwall@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
Andrew Solovay (solovay@netcom.com)
Anne Merend (ann@ejv.com)
Antti Lepp{nen kultt.antrop.yo. puh.730 512 <ALEPPANEN@cc.Helsinki.FI>
Antti Simola <asimola@lesti.hut.fi>
Arturas Tamkevicius <Arturas.Tamkevicius@dna.lth.se>
Baldur Kubo <Baldur.Kubo@bal.tartu.ee>
Bernfried Neukaeter <NEUKATE@DMSWWU1A.BITNET>
Bertil Jonell <d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se>
Bjarte OSTVOLD (ostvold@imag.fr)
Bjoern Greinert  <BG@mail.bmt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Bj|rn Tore Nyland <bnyland@pvv.unit.no>
Brian SPENCER <bspencer@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca>
C96@vm.urz.Uni-Heidelberg.de (Alexander EICHENER)
Chicago Cro (<U52148@UICVM.BITNET>)
Chris Marble <CMARBLE@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Dack (Dack@p8677.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org)
Daniel von Brighoff <deb5@midway.uchicago.edu>
David Cohen <cohen@sccm.Stanford.EDU>
David Hinz (hinz@picard.med.ge.com (hinz@picard.med.ge.com))
David Kaminsky (kaminsky-david@CS.YALE.EDU)
David Mardiste (dam@coombs.anu.edu.au)
Dennis Brennan <djb6@midway.uchicago.edu>
Edward Reid (ed@titipu.resun.com)
Edward Vielmetti <emv@msen.com>
Eero Uustalu <eero@anubis.kbfi.ee>
Erich Mikk <erm@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
Erik Boman <boman@sccm.Stanford.EDU>
Erik Teose <erikt@tekig1.pen.tek.com>
Erkki Aalto (aalto@cc.helsinki.fi)
Frank Kaefer (fkk@stasys.sta.sub.org)
GUEST@vm1.vm.ee
Gregory G. Woodbury (ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US)
Harri Laine <Harri.Laine@csc.fi>
Ilze Masinskas. <CSC9242663X@lust1.latrobe.edu.au>
In Search Of  (pyrrhus@netmgt.nnmc.navy.mil)
Indrek Kalamees <KALAMEES@sara.cc.utu.fi>
Jaan Ginter <jg@lawmail.law.columbia.edu>
Jaan Kalda (kalda@orphee.polytechnique.fr)
Jarmo Ryyti <ryyti@jyu.fi>
Joel Furr (jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu)
John Grossi (qasama@wpi.WPI.EDU)
John MacWilliamson (wilhelm@infoserv.com)
Jon Bell (jtbell@cs1.presby.edu)
Josef Nelissen <jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
Juergen Mueller (JUERGEN@hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de)
Jukka Kohonen (kohonen@cc.helsinki.fi)
Juris Rungis (rungis@dap.csiro.au)
Jyri Jarvet (jyri@sirius.biophys.su.se)
Jyrki Kimmel <kimmel@sai.vtt.fi>
KALLEINE@valt.helsinki.fi
Kai T Saukkonen <saukkone@cc.helsinki.fi>
Kari Kaarna (kmkaarna@ucdavis.edu)
Karlis Cerans <karlis@cs.chalmers.se>
Killu Tougu  <ktougu@stud.med.cornell.edu>
Kurt Swanson <Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se>
Kylli Kivi <kivi@cc.helsinki.fi>
Larry Loen <lwloen+@rchland.ibm.com>
Lee Choquette (lchoqu@asylum.cs.utah.edu)
Leon ter Beek <leon@nematic.chem.ubc.ca>
Lori Haynes (haynes@edmund.cs.andrews.edu)
Malle Tagamets <mally@ioc.ee>
Marco Kirm <Marco.Kirm@maxlab.lu.se>
Melvin Klassen (klassen@sol.UVic.CA)
Melynda Reid (melynda@titipu.resun.com)
Michael Chance (mchance@nyx.cs.du.edu)
Michael Quinn <MJQUINN@PUCC.BITNET>
Michael Qvortrup <qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch>
Mihkel Tammepuu (mihkel@tb.wr.wallac.fi)
Minna Harjuniemi <harjunie@serifos.helsinki.fi>
Mitra <mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us>
Mueller Beat <mueller@iwf.mabp.ethz.ch>
Nils Riess (riess@austin.onu.edu)
PAIVALAINEN@cc.Helsinki.FI
PEHK@KATK.helsinki.fi
Paulo da Costa 42147 (dacosta@prl.philips.nl)
Peter Trei (ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org)
Po Shan Cheah <ta-psc10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu>
Priit Kogerman (pxk19@po.CWRU.Edu)
REGO OSTONEN <OSTONEN@phcu.helsinki.fi>
ROBERT M J CZERNKOWSKI <89B0016@csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU>
Raivo Stern <stern@physik.unizh.ch>
Randolph J. Finder <NARAHT@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
Richard M. Mathews (richard@astro.West.Sun.COM)
Robert Dambergs <DAVIDHE@ac.dal.ca>
SEDERGREN@cc.Helsinki.FI
Scott M. Rogala (morgoth@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
Sean Maguire <055434@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>
Sergei Borodin (sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu)
Sigitas Keras <S.Keras@damtp.cambridge.ac.uk>
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos <c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>
Sven Spanne <sven@maths.lth.se>
THIETANIEMI@cc.Helsinki.FI
TKYLLONEN@cc.Helsinki.FI
Tanel Tammet <tammet@cs.chalmers.se>
Tarmo Tuisk (tarmo@interetn.fsoi.ee)
Teno Teemaa <tteemaa@vipunen.hut.fi>
Toivo Pedaste (toivo@sage.ucs.uwa.edu.au)
Tom Haapanen (tomh@wes.on.ca)
Tony Matti Juhani Paso <tonypaso@utu.fi>
Toomas Hendrik Ilves, Estonian Svc. tel 2332 <ILVEST@AdminA.RFERL.ORG>
Toomas Saarsen <tom@tsaf.ut.ee>
Ulf Sundin (ulf@infolog.se)
Usvyatsky Ilya (ilya@wisdom.weizmann.ac.il)
Valmar Moritz, tel. (+358)-0-857-1281. <MORITZ@cc.Helsinki.FI>
Veiko Miidel <veix@anubis.kbfi.ee>
Veli Kalevi Kontra <vko@lesti.hut.fi>
Vic Vaivads (vaivads@gandalf.ca)
Viktor Kaufmann (viktor@mgr.hjf.org)
Yury M. Mukharsky (muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU)
andreast@microsoft.COM
andrei@leland.stanford.edu
chaves@ihlpb.att.com
christopher thomas scanlan <scan@midway.uchicago.edu>
dath@ektaco.ioc.ee
davorinf@spot.tv.tek.com
dsnhv@dsnsun.ericsson.se
eijkhout@cs.utk.edu
kilov,haim (haim@cc.bellcore.com)
krista@BDILUC01.BITNET
leonid@spss.com
reeben@messi.uku.fi
rotalia <rotalia@rot.ut.ee>
simon1@bu-pub.bu.edu
sunhillo!root@twwells.com
tmikk@staff.tc.umn.edu
verbit@math.mit.edu
ziegenfE@moravian.edu
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Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se