From uunet!bcstec!tahoma!efsl@ncar.ucar.edu Tue Feb 18 00:15:19 1992
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From: uunet!bcstec!tahoma!efsl@ncar.ucar.edu (Michael D. Riston)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: soc.culture.german
Keywords: german_soc.culture_group, posted
Date: 19 Feb 90 16:56:51 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., BCA FSL, Seattle, WA
[On news.announce.newgroups, there will be but one call for discussion
for any newsgroup.-eliot]
Formal call for discussion
==========================
This is the 1st call for discussion for the creation of a German
soc.culture newsgroup.
The proposed newsgroup, unmoderated soc.culture.german, is intended
to generally provide a medium for those interested to express and share
their views and feelings about *things* (normally discussed in soc.culture
newsgroups) related to Germany and Germans.
The discussion period will last for 2 weeks from today.
Comments and discussions are welcome provided they are also posted to
news.groups newsgroup.
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From sequent!qtc!bob@verdix.com Tue Feb 18 00:20:37 1992
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From: Bob Boulanger <sequent!qtc!bob@verdix.com>
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.announce.newgroups,soc.misc,soc.culture.misc,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.british,soc.roots
Subject: CALL FOR VOTES -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
Date: 27 Feb 90 22:48:26 GMT
Reply-To: Bob Boulanger <bob@verdix.com>
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR
Followup-to: poster
Keywords: posted
===========================================================================
CALL FOR VOTES - SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
===========================================================================
This is the first formal "call for votes" for the creation of a world-wide,
UNMODERATED soc.culture.german newsgroup on USENET.
The discussion period for creation of soc.culture.german has already
ended and a lot of interest was observed during the discussion period.
The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for those
interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas, and feelings
about Germany and Germanic culture.
Possible discussion issues include aspects of Germany
- culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography;
- societies, traditions, customs;
- literature, poetry, art, folklore;
- languages, books;
- science, technology;
- food, cookery;
- local events, news, programs, economy;
- communities abroad, problems, needs; and
- *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups.
Postings may be in either English or German, but posters should bear in
mind, regardless of which language they post, that some readers may not be
able to read/translate your postings.
To Vote, send e-mail to:
bob@verdix.com
OR simply reply to this message.
Voting period will last from Feb 28th, until Midnight, March 20th, 1990.
As per USENET newsgroup creation guidelines,
- Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote (YES) for
the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.Germany as proposed" or "I vote
against (NO for) the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.germany as
proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to be
unambiguous.
In particular, statements of the form "I would vote for this group
if..." are considered COMMENTS and will NOT be counted as votes.
- Only votes that arrive DURING the voting period will be counted.
- ONLY votes E-MAILED to the vote-taker will count.
- Votes POSTED to the net for any reason (including inability to get
mail to the vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing
list maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will NOT
be counted.
- At the end of the voting period, if 100 more YES/create votes are
received than NO/don't create votes AND at least 2/3 of the total
number of valid votes received are in favor of the creation, a
newgroup control message will be sent out. If the 100 vote margin
or 2/3 portion is not met, the newsgroup will not be created.
I will post a weekly voting reminder.
Bob Boulanger
Vote-taker
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* (503)690-1116(w) (503)357-4644(h) Aloha, OR 97006 *
From bob@verdix.com Tue Feb 18 00:34:28 1992
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From: Bob Boulanger <bob@verdix.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: FINAL CALL FOR VOTES -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
Date: 15 Mar 90 16:16:22 GMT
Sender: netnews@verdix.com
Reply-To: Bob Boulanger <bob@verdix.com>
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR
Keywords: posted
===========================================================================
CALL FOR VOTES - SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
===========================================================================
This is the second formal "call for votes" for the creation of a world-wide,
UNMODERATED soc.culture.german newsgroup on USENET.
The discussion period for creation of soc.culture.german has already
ended and a lot of interest was observed during the discussion period.
The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for those
interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas, and feelings
about Germany and Germanic culture.
Possible discussion issues include aspects of German
- culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography;
- societies, traditions, customs;
- literature, poetry, art, folklore;
- languages, books;
- science, technology;
- food, cookery;
- local events, news, programs, economy;
- communities abroad, problems, needs; and
- *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups.
Postings may be in either English or German, but posters should bear in
mind, regardless of which language they post, that some readers may not be
able to read/translate your postings.
To Vote, send e-mail to:
bob@verdix.com
OR simply reply to this message.
Voting period will last from 1 March 1990 until Midnight, 21 March 1990.
As per USENET newsgroup creation guidelines,
- Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote (YES) for
the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.german as proposed" or "I vote
against (NO for) the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.german as
proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to be
unambiguous.
In particular, statements of the form "I would vote for this group
if..." are considered COMMENTS and will NOT be counted as votes.
- Only votes that arrive DURING the voting period will be counted.
- ONLY votes E-MAILED to the vote-taker will count.
- Votes POSTED to the net for any reason (including inability to get
mail to the vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing
list maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will NOT
be counted.
- At the end of the voting period, if 100 more YES/create votes are
received than NO/don't create votes AND at least 2/3 of the total
number of valid votes received are in favor of the creation, a
newgroup control message will be sent out. If the 100 vote margin
or 2/3 portion is not met, the newsgroup will not be created.
I will post a weekly voting reminder.
Bob Boulanger
Vote-taker
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* bob@verdix.com 1600 NW Compton Drive *
* (503)690-1116(w) (503)357-4644(h) Aloha, OR 97006 *
From bob@verdix.com Tue Feb 18 00:37:34 1992
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From: Bob Boulanger <bob@verdix.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: FINAL RESULTS -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN PASSES
Date: 22 Mar 90 17:26:54 GMT
Reply-To: Bob Boulanger <bob@verdix.com>
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR
Followup.to: news.groups
Keywords: posted
SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN -- RESULT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The voting for the creation of soc.culture.german (unmoderated) ended
at 00:00:00 PST March 22, 1990. My sincere THANKS to all those who voted.
Charter is available from bob@verdix.com
Final vote tally
----------------
TOTAL Votes: 231
YES Votes : 217 (93.94%)
NO Votes : 14 ( 6.07%)
According to USENET guidelines, there must be at least 100 more YES
votes than NO votes and the YES votes must also comprise a 2/3 plurality of
all votes. Based on these requirements and the preceding vote tally,
soc.culture.german PASSES
As stated in USENET guidelines, there will be a 5 days waiting period
for the net to check the result. If everything checks out, soc.culture.german
will be created at the end of this week.
I'll send out a welcoming message to all who voted and how to access
soc.culture.german
!!! Below is the list of votes, as required !!!
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YES VOTES
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Tom Hartman tfh@verdix.com
Michael Kustermann prism.gatech.edu!iadt3mk
Bob Lackman rll@ncar.ucar.edu
Bill Wolfe wtwolfe@hubcap.clemson.edu
Kathleen Walbroehl walbroeh@dtrc.dt.navy.mil
Roland F. McKenney granite.cr.bull.com!mckenney
Mark A. Law emunix.emich.edu!mal
Sing Z. S. Young saturn.ucsc.edu!young
?? red.cs.ubc.ca!wvong
John F. Haugh III cs.utexas.edu!rpp386.Cactus.ORG!jfh
-- 10 --
Milton D. Miller en.ecn.purdue.edu!milton
David Partain partain@cs.utk.edu
Bruno Di Stefano stefano@ecf.toronto.edu
Dorai Sitaram rice.edu!dorai
Bengt Larsson bengtl@maths.lth.se
Lars Fischer fischer@iesd.auc.dk
Connie Hirsch ATHENA.MIT.EDU!fuzzy
Ulrik Serges serges@daimi.dk
Olivier Causse llifia.imag.fr!causse
Du Nguyen nguyen@zariski.harvard.edu
-- 20 --
Timothy J. Lee ernie.Berkeley.EDU!timlee
Paul Work cs.umr.edu!paulw
Miki HERMANN hermann@loria.crin.fr
Kurt Schroeder kschroe2@ub.d.umn.edu
Leonard Kleinow kleinow@caen.engin.umich.edu
Laurie Sefton lsefton@apple.com
Werner Uhrig rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner
Peter Schorn schorn@inf.ethz.ch
James Fosler jfosler@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Lars Aronsson Aronsson@Lysator.LiU.SE
-- 30 --
Mike Cooney cooney@lakesys
Ed ? math.lsa.umich.edu!emv
Stanier A NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!alan%essex.ac.uk
J. Daniel Smith smithda@cpsvax.cps.msu.edu
Karl 'Dixie' Hultland d87-khd@sm.luth.se
Wilmer Pereira irisa.fr!Wilmer.Pereira
Jerry Kattke att!ihlpl!kattke
Alan Walworth csuchico.edu!ayw
Oliver Laumann net@tub.cs.tu-berlin.de
Malcolm L. Carlock malc@unrvax.unr.edu
-- 40 --
Jeffrey A. Schavland schvland@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu
Bret Troly troly@math.ucla.edu
Magnus Rimvall ra.crd.ge.com!rimvallm
Guido Kneib hanauma.STANFORD.EDU!guido
Sami Jutila stekt.oulu.fi!so-saj
Irek Defee Defee@tut.fi
John Carl Brown homxb.att.com!jcb
Joe Johnson jjohnson%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Joe Camaratta audi!jcc
Joubert Berger {hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccastjb
-- 50 --
Douglas Krause dkrause@orion.oac.uci.edu
Dick Schoeller schoeller@4gl.enet.dec.com
Tom Haapanen tom@mims-iris.waterloo.edu
Bob Janssens blj@csg.uiuc.edu
John Darvish Jdarvish@atc.boeing.com
Kurt J. Lidl smaug@eng.umd.edu
Harish P. Hiriyannaiah harish@ecebucolix.ncsu.edu
John Wagner PSUVM.PSU.EDU!JIW2
Dan Veditz ashtate.A-T.COM!dveditz
? umtsk35@CC.IC.AC.UK
-- 60 --
Thomas Krueger tjk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Alex M. Lee alee@ucselx.sdsu.edu)
Mark D. Baushke mdb@ESD.3Com.COM
Bryan Bayerdorffer cs.utexas.edu!bryanb
Eric Pepke SCRI1.SCRI.FSU.EDU!PEPKE (Eric Pepke)
Karen E. Isaacson karen@rand.org
Poh-Ki Hui uhura.cc.rochester.edu!phui
?? cs.vu.nl!gpvos
Charles W.T. Tang eleazar.dartmouth.edu!tang
Craig E. Ward cew@venera.isi.edu
-- 70 --
Charles Balan UNCCAB@med.unc.edu
Bryce Rumbles brumbles@hal.unm.edu
Behzad Alavi ...!pacbell!pbhyg!balavi
Don efsl@tahoma
Stephan Somogyi MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com
John Grantham grantham@math.lsa.umich.edu
David Scheid danzan.EBay.Sun.COM!scheid
iJeremy Klahhane jeremy@klahhane.stat.washington.edu
Rich Haller oregon.uoregon.edu!RHALLER
Raymond Rosch Rosch@cpdw.enet.dec.com
-- 80 --
Jay Legenhausen cs.wisc.edu!legenhau
CARL G. WOLFE MUVMS3.BITNET!ESS015
Elaine Hacklaender Hacklaender@Clemson.NCR.COM
Susanne Hupfer YALE.ARPA!hupfer-susanne
Greg Dykema Sun.COM!phantast
Rodney Boyd vrdxhq!uunet!sq.com!rodney
Ellen Keyne Seebacher elle@tank.uchicago.edu
Bryan Siegfried sig@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
David Crane violet.berkeley.edu!dcrane
Marshall Lake irscscm!mlake
-- 90 --
Chris Davies chris@vware.mn.org
Dave Tygra sharkey.cc.umich.edu!tygra!dave
Gerd Hillebrand ggh@cs.brown.edu
Smith J D NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!smijd%essex.ac.uk
Dorota Szlenk ecs.umass.edu!SZLENK
?? hlb@gille.uio.no
William J. Watson watson@halley.mpd.tandem.com
Fred R. Reenstjerna edm002@muvms3.bitnet,Marshall University
?? tut.fi!nurmi
Brian O'Donoghue brian@C3.COM
-- 100 --
Roman Brenes toaster.SFSU.EDU!roman
Robert Keller rkeller@matrox.com
Frederick M. Korz korz@bach.cs.columbia.edu
Sonja Kattner AA17152@athos.rutgers.edu
Jamie Saker jsaker@zeus.unomaha.edu
Ronald N. Voss apple.com!vossron
Erich Hegenberger ecs.umass.edu!HEGENBERGER
Roger Leroux rleroux1@uvicctr.UVic.CA
B.A. Badger x102c.ess.harris.com!bbadger
Erik Ohrnberger sharkey!edsews!edstip!ohrnb
-- 110 --
Mathias Luthi mcl@fy.chalmers.se
John Weinhardt cbnews.att.com!jgw
Stephen K Mulrine i AC.UK!smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
?? gsbacd.uchicago.edu!gft_robert
?? capmkt!bandy
Dave Taylor mathcs.emory.edu!dt
Ted Swift {hplabs,lll-crg/lcc, pacbell}!well!tswift
Mark Boltz PSUVM.PSU.EDU!MRB118
Jim L. Beug ogicse!decwrl!polyslo!jlbeug
Gilbert W. Pilz Jr. gil@banyan.com
-- 120 --
Bonnie R. Hiller Hudson.Stanford.EDU!hiller
Wayne Angevine waynea@cadnetix.com
Allan Wilson gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca!wilsona
?? RELAY.CS.NET!HAEHNLE%iravcl.ira.uka.de
Craig E. Ward cew@venera.isi.edu
Paul J. Mech oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU!deadpup!paul
Eamonn O'Brien cbnewsk.att.com!eob
Merri L Naka ICS.UCI.EDU!mnaka
Graeme Mullin NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!dmullin%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
Sean Matthews NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!sean%castle.edinburgh.ac.uk
-- 130 --
Timothy S. Newman cpsvax.cps.msu.edu!newman
Michael Engel CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!engel%BATATA.BITNET
Michael Engel CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!engel%BATATA.BITNET
Erich ? niwot.scd.ucar.EDU!erich
Donna J. Rostetter atsdjr@uoft01.bitnet
Lee F. Mellinger leem@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV
David Scholten frith.egr.msu.edu!scholten
Dr. Sanio athen.sp4n1.siemens.de
Andy Lang cdp!usagdr>
Armin Mikler atanasoff.MYDOMAIN!mikler
-- 140 --
Wayne E. Sanders Jr. sandy@dev3f.mdcbbs.com
Manfred J. Pfluegl balboa.eng.uci.edu!pfluegl
aly farag afarag@ub.d.umn.edu
Geraint Edwards JANet:gae@uk.ac.cf.cm
Vasant Honavar honavar@cs.wisc.edu
Diane Bracken hpindda.hp.com!hpda!bracken
Per Wahlund tdb.sunet.se!per
Andreas Meyer ameyer%nsscb@ulysses.att.com
Anthony Stome nbc1.ge.com!stone
iggi ? ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu!V096NM93>
-- 150 --
Andrew Boardman cs.columbia.edu!amb
Kenneth C. Moyle kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Sergio Gelato gelato@AstroSun.TN.Cornell.Edu
Ed Bailey edbailey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Henry Mensch henry@garp.mit.edu
Menno Jonkers cs.vu.nl!mvjonke
Anne Brink anneb@etl.army.mil
Martin Goldstern math.berkeley.edu!goldstrn
KELLEY Rogers 29396 slmisc.mdcbbs.com!rogers
John Canino nino@agora.hf.intel.com
-- 160 --
Karl Stupeeldorf mthvax.CS.Miami.EDU!karl
Stefan Bressler stefanbr@floenz1.doit.sub.org
Martin Ottp 581mao@mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
Raj Manandhar uunet!harvard.harvard.edu!raj%cfa272
Joseph Nave root.co.uk!jan
Janet L. Pflederer jlp@ihlpm.att.com
Stefan Hauser etienne@accsys.ccs.imp.com
Corinne Braun uunet!ux.acs.umn.edu!cbraun
Chris Overton portia.stanford.edu!louiex2
?? uunet!microsoft!stevesc
-- 170 --
Kent Hedlundh dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Gary L. Dare gld@cunixD.cc.columbia.EDU
Heiko Hecht hh5s@virginia.edu
Mark Routbort rout@tank.uchicago.edu
?? uunet!cie.uoregon.edu!twymer
D.MacGregor dam@uk.ac.ed.castle
Steve Oberste fcrfv1.ncifcrf.gov!oberste
Bob Boulanger bob@verdix.com
raymond tam rtam@cory.berkeley.edu
Anja Petzold gmdzi!anja
-- 180 --
Peter Mueller mace.cc.purdue.edu!cs0
Christian Kaiser cmk@chi.sub.org
Richard Wagener nereid.sal.ists.ca!wagener
Pam Haukenfrers cs.athabascau.ca!pam@verdix.com
Susan Kenzler csd4.csd.uwm.edu!susan
Michael Fendt fendt%ecrc.de@pyramid.pyramid.com
Marylyn Westervelt CU.NIH.GOV!QMW
Doug Scofield doog@ssd.csd.harris.com
Donna Reiner Reiner@Rio.Bitnet
James E P Saari jamess@misg.csd.harris.com
-- 190 --
Horst D. Cosgrove mtgzy.att.com!hdc
Harald Fuchs fuchs@it.uka.de
Karen Birkelbach karen@pemrac.space.swri.edu
Ryszard Jan Nipl mop.luth.se!Ryszard.Nipl
Bert ncsuvm.ncsu.edu!C0129%UNIVSCVM.BITNET
Bjoern Wallin f88bw@efd.lth.se
Dale Cook cook@encore.com
Pete Gayde iwtmx!gayde
Oliver Hellwig skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!hellwig
Arlene D. Hills arleneh@puffin.uss.tek.com
-- 200 --
Roseann R. Hogan, Ph. D. VAAHOGAN@UKCC.UKY.EDU
John Chang turing.cs.rpi.edu!changj
? tan%mhuxo%cbnewsm@att.att.com
Michael G Koopman unix.cis.pitt.edu!mgkst1
J. David Naumann vx.acs.umn.edu!NAUMANN
Snoopy cse.ogi.edu!sopwith!snoopy
Lorraine C. Williams weaver@NADC.ARPA
Robert N. Sparbel rsparbe@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Bernd Stramm stramm%cs@ucsd.edu
Sanjay Singh ssingh@watserv1.waterloo.edu
Timo Ensio Pelkonen taltta.hut.fi!s29863s
-- 210 --
Brian Donat ogicse!decwrl!infmx!briand
Doug Hall CSDOUG@STMARYTX
Mike Weitz mike.weitz@canremote.uucp
Michael E. Wildenauer mwildenauer@austek.oz
Ivan Herman ivan@cwi.nl
Christopher Tate cxt105@psuvm.psu.edu
Betty Vachter betty@verdix.com
Alfred von Campe milkwy.enet.dec.com!avoncampe
-- 217 --
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NO VOTES
========================================================================
Tim Oldham tjo@its.bt.co.uk
Jonathan R Barnett wpi.wpi.edu!jbarnett
Chip Rosenthal chip@chinacat.Lonestar.ORG
Pekka Riiali riiali@kannel.lut.fi
Charleen Bunjiovianna ads.com!charleen
Richard H. Miller rick@bcm.tmc.edu
Arthur David Olson ado@alw.nih.gov
Leonard B. Bliss uncecs.edu!blissl
?? uunet!quiche.cs.mcgill.ca!utility
C. Harald Koch chk@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu
-- 10 --
Gregory G. Woodbury ggw@cds.duke.edu
?? sun!portal!cup.portal.com!mmm
Christian Peper peper1@unix.cis.pitt.edu
Yaakov Kayman CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!YZKCU
-- 14 --
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