From djb@silverton.berkeley.edu Fri Jul 2 13:10:07 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,alt.privacy.clipper Subject: RFD: talk.politics.crypto Followup-To: news.groups Date: 2 Jul 1993 10:33:45 -0400 Organization: IR Lines: 16 Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <211h09INNsob@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3748 news.groups:75473 sci.crypt:17698 alt.privacy.clipper:1028 I propose a new unmoderated group: talk.politics.crypto The relation between cryptography and government. The name of the group needs little explanation. Like talk.politics.drugs and talk.politics.guns, this newsgroup will cover all sides of a sticky issue. There's a lot of existing traffic which would fit very well into talk.politics.crypto; this group should be reasonably successful at drawing inappropriate traffic out of sci.crypt. Please note that talk.politics.crypto is not meant to foreclose the possible future creation of a (moderated) sci.crypt.research group. Followups to news.groups. I expect to run a vote in a month. ---Dan From djb@silverton.berkeley.edu Mon Aug 2 22:48:09 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,alt.privacy.clipper Subject: CFV: talk.politics.crypto Followup-To: poster Date: 2 Aug 1993 22:13:45 -0400 Organization: IR Lines: 61 Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <talk.politics.crypto-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3899 news.groups:78000 sci.crypt:18303 alt.privacy.clipper:1258 I call for votes for a new unmoderated group: talk.politics.crypto The relation between cryptography and government. The name of the group needs little explanation. Like talk.politics.drugs and talk.politics.guns, this newsgroup will cover all sides of a sticky issue. There's a lot of existing traffic which would fit very well into talk.politics.crypto; this group should be reasonably successful at drawing inappropriate traffic out of sci.crypt. Please note that talk.politics.crypto is not meant to foreclose the possible future creation of a (moderated) sci.crypt.research group. Voting instructions appear below. Always remember: Friends don't let friends vote drunk. Don't post your votes, and don't mail them to me. Votes must be received during August, GMT. The results will be announced in early September. [[ news.announce.newgroups moderator's note: to be totally clear, the end of the voting period is 00:00 GMT, 1 Sep 93 -- tale ]] ---Dan In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail message to the address mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu. If your site does not understand that address, you might try: mail-server%rtfm.mit.edu@athena.mit.edu mit-athena!rtfm.mit.edu!mail-server uunet!rtfm.mit.edu!mail-server If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can help you address the mail properly. Posted votes will not be counted. Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted. Your mail should contain one of the following three lines, in the body of the mail message: vote talk.politics.crypto yes vote talk.politics.crypto no vote talk.politics.crypto abstain The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation of the newsgroup. The third line cancels any previous vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup. Multiple voting messages from the same person must be sent from the same address. If multiple votes are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only one counted. The subject line of your mail will be ignored. You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its receipt, within two days. If you do not, or if you have some other problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to owner-mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu. The hardware resources for vote collection are being provided by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The vote-collection software is being provided by Jonathan Kamens <jik@GZA.COM>. The manpower necessary to collect the votes is being provided by Jonathan Kamens and Geer Zolot Associates. MIT, Jonathan Kamens, and Geer Zolot Associates have nothing to do with the newsgroup proposal; they're just collecting the votes as a neutral third party. From djb@silverton.berkeley.edu Sat Aug 28 23:10:10 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,alt.privacy.clipper Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: talk.politics.crypto Followup-To: poster Date: 28 Aug 1993 18:52:49 -0400 Organization: IR Lines: 228 Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <talk.politics.crypto-CFV2@uunet.uu.net> References: <talk.politics.crypto-CFV1@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3989 news.groups:80236 sci.crypt:18841 alt.privacy.clipper:1522 This posting contains: (1) a copy of the original call for votes for talk.politics.crypto; (2) a list of who had voted as of August 24. There are still a few days left to vote. ---Dan I call for votes for a new unmoderated group: talk.politics.crypto The relation between cryptography and government. The name of the group needs little explanation. Like talk.politics.drugs and talk.politics.guns, this newsgroup will cover all sides of a sticky issue. There's a lot of existing traffic which would fit very well into talk.politics.crypto; this group should be reasonably successful at drawing inappropriate traffic out of sci.crypt. Please note that talk.politics.crypto is not meant to foreclose the possible future creation of a (moderated) sci.crypt.research group. Voting instructions appear below. Always remember: Friends don't let friends vote drunk. Don't post your votes, and don't mail them to me. Votes must be received during August, GMT. The results will be announced in early September. [[ news.announce.newgroups moderator's note: to be totally clear, the end of the voting period is 00:00 GMT, 1 Sep 93 -- tale ]] ---Dan In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail message to the address mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu. If your site does not understand that address, you might try: mail-server%rtfm.mit.edu@athena.mit.edu mit-athena!rtfm.mit.edu!mail-server uunet!rtfm.mit.edu!mail-server If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can help you address the mail properly. Posted votes will not be counted. Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted. Your mail should contain one of the following three lines, in the body of the mail message: vote talk.politics.crypto yes vote talk.politics.crypto no vote talk.politics.crypto abstain The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation of the newsgroup. The third line cancels any previous vote for or against the creation of the newsgroup. Multiple voting messages from the same person must be sent from the same address. If multiple votes are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only one counted. The subject line of your mail will be ignored. You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its receipt, within two days. If you do not, or if you have some other problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to owner-mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu. The hardware resources for vote collection are being provided by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The vote-collection software is being provided by Jonathan Kamens <jik@GZA.COM>. The manpower necessary to collect the votes is being provided by Jonathan Kamens and Geer Zolot Associates. MIT, Jonathan Kamens, and Geer Zolot Associates have nothing to do with the newsgroup proposal; they're just collecting the votes as a neutral third party. (Jeffrey D. Angus) bongo!skyld.tele.com!jangus@netcom.com "Mich Kabay / JINBU Corp." <75300.3232@compuserve.com> absurd@apple.com (Tim Dierks) al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Eugenio Sanchez-Pe~a), al198723@next-mty.mty.itesm.mx (Eugenio Sanchez-Pe~a) Alan Bawden <Alan@lcs.mit.edu> Alan Coopersmith <alanc@ocf.berkeley.edu> andy@autodesk.com (Andrew Purshottam) andy@vistachrome.com ao443@yfn.ysu.edu aultj@rpi.edu bal@martigny.ai.mit.edu balr!vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@clout.chi.il.us barle@physics.rutgers.edu (Stanko Barle) Alan P Barrett <barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za> bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) Bart Massey <bart@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu> beast@netcom.com (J. Kintscher) berson@anagram.com (Thomas A. Berson) Benjamin Griffin <bgriffin@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu> biow@cs.umd.edu "B.J. Herbison" <bj@herbison.com> Brian R. Gaeke <brg@cerf.net> "John Kelsey" <C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Can Bruce <cb34@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> charest@aig.jpl.nasa.gov (Len Charest) Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org> Bob Clements <clements@diamond.bbn.com> cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) colin@nyx.cs.du.edu collins@newton.apple.com (Scott Collins) craffert@lehman.com (Colin Owen Rafferty) Kenneth P Crouch <crouchkp@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk Dave Hodgins <dave.hodgins@canrem.com> dave@eram.esi.com.au (Dave Horsfall) davew@tamarack.cray.com (Dave Wagner) "David A. Wagner" <dawagner@phoenix.princeton.edu> Eric Edward Moore <deathmaster+@cmu.edu> Jeff Del Papa <dp@harlequin.com> "David S.A. Stine" <dstine@cisco.com> dvader@hemp-imi.hep.anl.gov (mike Rosing) eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch) ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid) emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) fergp@sytex.com (Paul Ferguson) fmcphers@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Frank McPherson) Hardcore Alaskan <FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu> Garrett.Wollman@uvm.edu (Garrett Wollman) garyr@cs.tamu.edu (Gary R Ratterree) gordon@ll.mit.edu (Gordon Matheson) grout@csrd.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout) Geoffrey Spear <gspear+@cmu.edu> gswan@psych.toronto.edu haahr@mv.us.adobe.com (Paul Haahr) hal@alumni.cco.caltech.edu (Hal Finney) Ed Hamrick <hamrick@convex.convex.com> "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu> henderso@netcom.com (Mark C. Henderson) henrik@PICARD.TAMU.EDU (Henrik Schmiediche) holger@vmars.vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Holger Reusch) holland@cs.colostate.edu (douglas craig holland) howard@hal.com hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson) irina@cs.bu.edu (Irene Gassko) James_Gillogly@rand.org jet@nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) Jim_Miller@suite.com joec@cfcsys.linet.org (Joseph Christie) "Joel A. Fine" <joel@postgres.berkeley.edu> jsa@jet.uk (Jacob S Andersen) Jin S Choi <jsc@monolith.mit.edu> John T Kohl <jtkohl@zk3.dec.com> julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) Kevin Junck <junck@okra.fnal.gov> Junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu (Peter D. Junger) karmira@falcon.natinst.com (Apostolos Karmirantzos) kelsey@mdd.comm.mot.com (Joe Kelsey) kohler@sra.com (Mark Kohler) kubo@math.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo) Laszlo Baranyi <laszlo@instrlab.kth.se> LBennett.El_Segundo@xerox.com "L. Detweiler" <ld231782@longs.lance.colostate.edu> LINEHAN@watson.ibm.com loki@cass156.ucsd.edu (Lance Cottrell) lowton@typhon.dra.hmg.gb (Andy Lowton) Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com M..Stirner@f28.n125.z1.fidonet.org (M. Stirner) Magnus Olsson <magnus@thep.lu.se> manish@sheba.niddk.nih.gov (Manish Butte) marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) Mark Grant <mark@isltd.insignia.com> matwood@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood) mayhew@WKUVX1.BITNET mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca mike@upolu.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mike Jones) Mike Fessler <MIKEF@brownvm.brown.edu> "Loren J. Miller" <MILLERL@wharton.upenn.edu> miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman) Frederic Miserey <miserey@laguna.ics.uci.edu> Murray Nesbitt <mjn@pseudo.uucp> mk@anuurn.do.open.de (Martin Koehling) mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS <mmt@redbrick.com> moore@defmacro.cs.utah.edu (Timothy B. Moore) MOTSUK@cu4500.cua.edu Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) nmehl@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Nathan J. Mehl) Nat Howard <nrh@uunet.uu.net> Chris Palmer <palmer@admin.mcc.mass.edu> patl@lcs.mit.edu Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no Paul Leyland <pcl@ox.ac.uk> peb@procase.com (Paul Baclace) peed@ivory.rtsg.mot.com (Andrew Peed) perobich@ingr.com Charles P Pfleeger <pfleeger@tisuk.demon.co.uk> phoffman@netcom.com (Paul E. Hoffman) pkarger@gte.com plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) "Michael J. Quinn" <quinn@phoenix.princeton.edu> Richard Pieri <ratinox@ccs.neu.edu> rda@mh.nl (Sietze Roorda) reeds@research.att.com Rene Boe Soerensen <rene@iesd.auc.dk> rfall@mv.us.adobe.com (Richard Fall) rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rittle@comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle) Robert L Krawitz <rlk@think.com> "Ronnie B. Kon" <ronnie@cisco.com> rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp) Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com> Ryan Bayne <ryan.bayne@canrem.com> science@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Zimmermann) "David A. Scocca" <scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu> scs@eskimo.com (Steve Summit) Scott E Kullberg <sekullbe@athena.mit.edu> siler@cs.utk.edu sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) spirit@wildwood.demon.co.uk Jason 'Think!' Steiner <steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu> Steve Brinich <steve-b@access.digex.net> Steve Coltrin <steve@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz) Christoph Weber-Fahr <supervisor@kit.uni-kl.de> David Reeve Sward <sward+@cmu.edu> tamsky@cco.caltech.edu (Marc A. Tamsky) tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) thursto1@husc.harvard.edu tim@atri.curtin.edu.au (Tim Moors) TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert) uri@watson.ibm.com VampLestat@eskimo.com wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart) weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) wiml@u.washington.edu wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com Olin Sibert <wos@oxford.com> fasttech!zeke@uu4.psi.com (Bohdan Tashchuk) From djb@silverton.berkeley.edu Wed Sep 8 19:43:09 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,alt.privacy.clipper Subject: RESULT: talk.politics.crypto passes 184:44 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Sep 1993 16:26:46 -0400 Organization: IR Lines: 250 Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <26lf66INNl13@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4027 news.groups:81099 sci.crypt:19079 alt.privacy.clipper:1532 talk.politics.crypto The relation between cryptography and government Here's the tally. There were 184 valid yes votes and 44 valid no votes. So talk.politics.crypto passes. The vote list appears below. My thanks to MIT, Jonathan Kamens, and Geer Zolot Associates for collecting the votes. There will be a five-day waiting period to revise the tally in case of lost votes. Please post any comments on the vote, including lost votes, to news.groups; do not mail them to me. Barring a Vogon invasion or some other unlikely event, David Lawrence will send out a newgroup message for talk.politics.crypto at the end of the waiting period. ---Dan "yes" votes (184): (Jeffrey D. Angus) bongo!skyld.tele.com!jangus@netcom.com "Mich Kabay / JINBU Corp." <75300.3232@compuserve.com> abbe@bronze.lcs.mit.edu (John C. Abbe aka Rademir) ABROUARD@antioc.antioch.edu absurd@apple.com (Tim Dierks) Andreas Fuchsberger <af@hplb.hpl.hp.com> al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Eugenio Sanchez-Pe~a), al198723@next-mty.mty.itesm.mx (Eugenio Sanchez-Pe~a) Alan Bawden <Alan@lcs.mit.edu> Alan Coopersmith <alanc@ocf.berkeley.edu> andy@autodesk.com (Andrew Purshottam) andy@vistachrome.com atfurman@cup.portal.com atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) aultj@rpi.edu bal@martigny.ai.mit.edu barle@physics.rutgers.edu (Stanko Barle) bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) Bart Massey <bart@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu> beast@netcom.com (J. Kintscher) beckman@cco.caltech.edu (David Beckman) Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se> berson@anagram.com (Thomas A. Berson) Benjamin Griffin <bgriffin@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu> Bill_Moore@mindlink.bc.ca (Bill Moore) "Gomes, Bill M'bio" <BillG@microbio.lifesci.ucla.edu> "B.J. Herbison" <bj@herbison.com> bobmacd@netcom.com (Bob MacDowell) boyd@cs.buffalo.edu (Daniel F Boyd) Brian R. Gaeke <brg@cerf.net> "John Kelsey" <C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu> cactus@clinton.com (L. Todd Masco) Can Bruce <cb34@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> charest@aig.jpl.nasa.gov (Len Charest) Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org> Bob Clements <clements@diamond.bbn.com> cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton) cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) colin@nyx.cs.du.edu collins@newton.apple.com (Scott Collins) 27-Aug-1993 2049 <collins@powdml.enet.dec.com> combee@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee) craffert@lehman.com (Colin Owen Rafferty) D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk Dave Hodgins <dave.hodgins@canrem.com> dave@eram.esi.com.au (Dave Horsfall) davew@tamarack.cray.com (Dave Wagner) "David A. Wagner" <dawagner@phoenix.princeton.edu> Dave Archer <dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu> doug@midget.towson.edu (Doug McNaught) Jeff Del Papa <dp@harlequin.com> dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa) "David S.A. Stine" <dstine@cisco.com> dvader@hemp-imi.hep.anl.gov (mike Rosing) eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch) ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid) fergp@sytex.com (Paul Ferguson) fmcphers@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Frank McPherson) Garrett.Wollman@uvm.edu (Garrett Wollman) garyr@cs.tamu.edu (Gary R Ratterree) gordon@ll.mit.edu (Gordon Matheson) grout@csrd.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout) Geoffrey Spear <gspear+@cmu.edu> gswan@psych.toronto.edu haahr@mv.us.adobe.com (Paul Haahr) Ed Hamrick <hamrick@convex.convex.com> James Harvey <HARVEY@indyvax.iupui.edu> "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu> henderso@netcom.com (Mark C. Henderson) henrik@PICARD.TAMU.EDU (Henrik Schmiediche) holger@vmars.vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Holger Reusch) holland@cs.colostate.edu (douglas craig holland) howard@hal.com hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Jackson) irina@cs.bu.edu (Irene Gassko) jallred@spdg.com (John Allred) James_Gillogly@rand.org JERRY@crysv1.ncifcrf.gov jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) jet@nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) Jim_Miller@suite.com J M Lake <jmlake@lees.cogsci.uiuc.edu> joec@cfcsys.linet.org (Joseph Christie) "Joel A. Fine" <joel@postgres.berkeley.edu> john.eichler@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (John Eichler) jsa@jet.uk (Jacob S Andersen) Jin S Choi <jsc@monolith.mit.edu> John T Kohl <jtkohl@zk3.dec.com> Junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu (Peter D. Junger) karmira@falcon.natinst.com (Apostolos Karmirantzos) kelsey@mdd.comm.mot.com (Joe Kelsey) kohler@sra.com (Mark Kohler) kubo@math.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo) Laszlo Baranyi <laszlo@instrlab.kth.se> "L. Detweiler" <ld231782@longs.lance.colostate.edu> LINEHAN@watson.ibm.com David Lippke <lippke@utdallas.edu> loki@cass156.ucsd.edu (Lance Cottrell) lonadar@judy.indstate.edu (Lonadar the Wanderer) lowton@typhon.dra.hmg.gb (Andy Lowton) lucks@namu19.gwdg.de (Stefan Lucks) M..Stirner@f28.n125.z1.fidonet.org (M. Stirner) Magnus Olsson <magnus@thep.lu.se> maier@ebs330.eb.uah.edu (Professor Maier) manish@sheba.niddk.nih.gov (Manish Butte) marchesi@cirfid.unibo.it (Carlo Marchesi) marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) Mark Grant <mark@isltd.insignia.com> matwood@peruvian.cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood) mayhew@WKUVX1.BITNET mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca meadows@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Catherine A. Meadows) mhealey@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Mark Healey) mike@cs.umd.edu (Mike Steele) Mike Fessler <MIKEF@brownvm.brown.edu> "Loren J. Miller" <MILLERL@wharton.upenn.edu> miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman) misar@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de Frederic Miserey <miserey@laguna.ics.uci.edu> mk@anuurn.do.open.de (Martin Koehling) mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu mlshew@dixie.com (Mark Shewmaker) Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS <mmt@redbrick.com> moore@defmacro.cs.utah.edu (Timothy B. Moore) MOTSUK@cu4500.cua.edu Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu> Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) nmehl@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Nathan J. Mehl) Nat Howard <nrh@uunet.uu.net> Chris Palmer <palmer@admin.mcc.mass.edu> patl@lcs.mit.edu payson@cs.wisc.edu ( Payson) Paul Leyland <pcl@ox.ac.uk> pcr@vnet.ibm.com peb@procase.com (Paul Baclace) perobich@ingr.com Charles P Pfleeger <pfleeger@tisuk.demon.co.uk> phoffman@netcom.com (Paul E. Hoffman) pkarger@gte.com "Michael J. Quinn" <quinn@phoenix.princeton.edu> Richard Pieri <ratinox@ccs.neu.edu> Rob Boudrie <rboudrie@chpc.org> rda@mh.nl (Sietze Roorda) reeds@research.att.com Rene Boe Soerensen <rene@iesd.auc.dk> rfall@mv.us.adobe.com (Richard Fall) richardr@netcom.com (Richard L. Robertson) rittle@comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle) Bob Dowling <rjd4@ucs.cam.ac.uk> Rob Quinn <rjq@phys.ksu.edu> Robert L Krawitz <rlk@think.com> roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net (Ollivier Robert) rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp) Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com> Ryan Bayne <ryan.bayne@canrem.com> samuel@telmar.com (Samuel Druker) science@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Zimmermann) "David A. Scocca" <scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu> scs@eskimo.com (Steve Summit) Scott E Kullberg <sekullbe@athena.mit.edu> siler@cs.utk.edu sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) somogyi@macuser.ziff.com (Stephan Somogyi) spirit@wildwood.demon.co.uk Jason 'Think!' Steiner <steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu> Steve Brinich <steve-b@access.digex.net> Steve Coltrin <steve@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz) Christoph Weber-Fahr <supervisor@kit.uni-kl.de> David Reeve Sward <sward+@cmu.edu> tamsky@cco.caltech.edu (Marc A. Tamsky) tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) thursto1@husc.harvard.edu tim@atri.curtin.edu.au (Tim Moors) TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert) uri@watson.ibm.com VampLestat@eskimo.com weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) wiml@u.washington.edu wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com fasttech!zeke@uu4.psi.com (Bohdan Tashchuk) "no" votes (44): Albert Amet <ACA@kan-dor.tallgrass.com> ao443@yfn.ysu.edu balr!vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@clout.chi.il.us Alan P Barrett <barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za> Scott Bennett <bennett@mp.cs.niu.edu> biow@cs.umd.edu Alexander EICHENER <C96@vm.hd-net.uni-heidelberg.de> Po Shan Cheah <cheah@cs.columbia.edu> chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (The Technicolour Throw-up) Kenneth P Crouch <crouchkp@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> ddjenkin@acs.ucalgary.ca Eric Edward Moore <deathmaster+@cmu.edu> "Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu> emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) franklig@gas.uug.arizona.edu (Gregory C Franklin ) Hardcore Alaskan <FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu> Greg_Manning@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Manning) gtf@gauss.math.rochester.edu (Geoffrey Falk) hal@alumni.cco.caltech.edu (Hal Finney) hud@netcom.com (Hud Nordin) huntj%postoffice.agcs.com@agcs.com (Jeffrey Hunt, Great American) jbs@watson.ibm.com jsgreene@ll.mit.edu (John S. Greene) jsy@palm.cray.com (Jeff Young) julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) Kevin Junck <junck@okra.fnal.gov> John Kasdan <kasdan@cs.columbia.edu> LBennett.El_Segundo@xerox.com Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) mike@upolu.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mike Jones) Murray Nesbitt <mjn@pseudo.uucp> Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no peed@ivory.rtsg.mot.com (Andrew Peed) plutchak@porter.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) "Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri" <revu@midway.uchicago.edu> rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rkupiec@athena.mit.edu "Ronnie B. Kon" <ronnie@cisco.com> Tom Jaskiewicz <tomj@jac.enet.dec.com> wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart) wdam@cds.proxima.alt.za werner@soe.berkeley.edu (John Werner) Olin Sibert <wos@oxford.com> -30-
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