From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 10:40:24 1993
Flags: 000000000201
Path: lear
From: [email protected] (Tiggr)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.acorn
Subject: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: comp.binaries.acorn
Keywords: comp.binaries.acorn_CFD_call-for-discussion, posted
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 91 10:57:02 PST
Followup-to: news.groups
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

This is the official CALL FOR *DISCUSSION* on the creation of the newsgroup
comp.binaries.acorn.

NAME

	comp.binaries.acorn - worldwide *moderated* distribution of programs
			      (either in source or binary form) for Acorn
			      machines (both Archimedes and BBC).

MODERATION

	The group shall be moderated.  Alan Glover ([email protected]) has
	volunteered to be the moderator.

REASON

	About two months ago, the newsgroup comp.sys.acorn was created.  The
	group was (and still is) intended for the discussion of computers made
	by Acorn, and computers based on the Acorn RISC Machine (ARM).  Right
	from the start, a sort-of holy war started on whether or not (large)
	binary and source postings should be posted to the group, or that a
	seperate group should be created for this purpose.  Almost everyone
	familiar with the eunet.micro.acorn group said that posting binaries
	was okay since it had always been done like that.

	However, the number of binary/source postings in comp.sys.acorn has
	grown far beyond any acceptable level, and the creation of the group
	comp.acorn.binaries is called for.  (For instance, on January 10th, my
	site had received 725760 bytes in comp.sys.acorn in 1991,  626355
	bytes being binary postings.  That is a 86 percent!)

AUTHOR
	Tiggr ([email protected])


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From: [email protected] (Tiggr)
Subject: CFV: comp.binaries.acorn and comp.sources.acorn
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It's:
 - the Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.binaries.acorn, and
 - the Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.sources.acorn.

PLEASE read all of this article before trying to cast a vote.

NAME AND CHARTER

	comp.binaries.acorn	moderated distribution of binaries for
				Acorn machines.

	comp.sources.acorn	moderated distribution of sources for
				Acorn machines.

MODERATION

	Alan Glover ([email protected]) has volunteered to moderate
	both groups.

RATIONALE

	The stream of binaries flooding comp.sys.acorn has become too
	large (comp.sys.acorn is a discussion-only group: even a single
	binary is too much).  Hence a comp.binaries.acorn newsgroup is
	called for.  To ensure high quality this group shall be
	moderated.

	It seems normal for a binaries group to be accompanied by a
	sources group; hence a comp.sources.acorn seems to be called
	for as well.  It too shall be moderated.

	It is unclear whether desktop applications sources with lots
	of binary resource files should be posted to a sources or
	binaries group.  It is also unclear whether such sources should
	be excluded from the binaries group.  From the discussion it
	appeared that all this is a matter of taste.  It doesn't seem
	all that relevant.

VOTING PERIOD

	The voting period will start on the day this article appears in
	news.announce.newgroups.  The voting period will end at the
	end of the 21st day (GMT) since the voting started.

HOW TO VOTE

	A valid vote is a line or sentence containing two key
	elements:

	 - one or more newsgroup names (either `comp.binaries.acorn'
	   or `comp.sources.acorn' or both).

	 - whether you vote for or against the creation of those
	   newsgroups.

	A vote which does not contain both elements is not valid and
	will be ignored without notice.

	It is encouraged to vote on both newsgroups.  It is allowed to
	send more than one valid vote as long as a previous valid vote
	on a newsgroup is not duplicated or contradicted (in which case
	the original vote holds and any duplicate or contradiction is
	ignored without notice).

	Mail your votes to [email protected].

HOW TO VOTE (REALLY)

	Send me ([email protected]) a mail containing the following:

		comp.binaries.acorn: 
		comp.sources.acorn: 

	where `' should be substituted by `for', `against' or
	something similar.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

	I will post intermediate mass acknowledgements to
	comp.sys.acorn and news.groups a few times.

AUTHOR
	Tiggr
	([email protected])

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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.{sources,binaries}.acorn
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It's:
 - the 2nd Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.binaries.acorn,
and
 - the 2nd Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.sources.acorn,
and
 - a mass acknowledgement on both groups.

PLEASE read all of this article before trying to cast a vote.

NAME AND CHARTER

	comp.binaries.acorn	moderated distribution of binaries for
				Acorn machines.

	comp.sources.acorn	moderated distribution of sources for
				Acorn machines.

MODERATION

	Alan Glover ([email protected]) has volunteered to moderate
	both groups.

RATIONALE

	The stream of binaries flooding comp.sys.acorn has become too
	large (comp.sys.acorn is a discussion-only group: even a single
	binary is too much).  Hence a comp.binaries.acorn newsgroup is
	called for.  To ensure high quality this group shall be
	moderated.

	It seems normal a binaries group be accompanied by a sources
	group.  Hence a comp.sources.acorn seems to be called for as
	well.  It too shall be moderated.

	It is unclear whether desktop applications' sources with lots
	of binary resource files should be posted to a sources or
	binaries group.  It is also unclear whether such sources should
	be excluded from the binaries group.  From the discussion it
	appeared that all this is a matter of taste.  It doesn't seem
	all that relevant.

VOTING PERIOD

	The voting period has started on 25 Feb 1991.  Your last
	chance to vote will be on 17 Mar 1991 (CET).


HOW TO VOTE

	A valid vote is a line or sentence containing two key
	elements:

	 - one or more newsgroup names (either `comp.binaries.acorn'
	   or `comp.sources.acorn' or both).

	 - whether you vote for or against the creation of those
	   newsgroups.

	A vote which does not contain both elements is not valid and
	will be ignored without notice.

	It is encouraged to vote on both newsgroups.  It is allowed to
	send more than one valid vote as long as a previous valid vote
	on a newsgroup is not duplicated or contradicted (in which case
	the original vote holds and any duplicate or contradiction is
	ignored without notice), unless the new valid vote contradicts
	a previous valid vote and includes a remark about the voter
	having changed his mind.

	Mail your votes to [email protected].

HOW TO VOTE (REALLY)

	Send me ([email protected]) a mail containing the following:

		comp.binaries.acorn: 
		comp.sources.acorn: 

	where `' should be substituted by `for', `against' or
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MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT

	The following usercodes have originated a valid vote on
	comp.binaries.acorn:

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Subject: RESULT: comp.{binaries,sources}.acorn pass {226:21,213:30}
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It's:
   The Results on the Voting on comp.binaries.acorn and comp.sources.acorn.

COMP.BINARIES.ACORN
	Passed: 226 for to 21 against.

COMP.SOURCES.ACORN
	Passed: 213 for to 30 against.

MODERATION
	Both groups shall be moderated by Alan Glover ([email protected]).

CREATION
	If nothing comes up, both groups will be created on March 24th.

YES VOTES ON COMP.BINARIES.ACORN

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NO VOTES ON COMP.BINARIES.ACORN

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