From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 10:40:24 1993 Flags: 000000000201 Path: lear From: [email protected] (Tiggr) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.acorn Subject: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: comp.binaries.acorn Keywords: comp.binaries.acorn_CFD_call-for-discussion, posted Date: Mon, 11 Feb 91 10:57:02 PST Followup-to: news.groups Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands This is the official CALL FOR *DISCUSSION* on the creation of the newsgroup comp.binaries.acorn. NAME comp.binaries.acorn - worldwide *moderated* distribution of programs (either in source or binary form) for Acorn machines (both Archimedes and BBC). MODERATION The group shall be moderated. Alan Glover ([email protected]) has volunteered to be the moderator. REASON About two months ago, the newsgroup comp.sys.acorn was created. The group was (and still is) intended for the discussion of computers made by Acorn, and computers based on the Acorn RISC Machine (ARM). Right from the start, a sort-of holy war started on whether or not (large) binary and source postings should be posted to the group, or that a seperate group should be created for this purpose. Almost everyone familiar with the eunet.micro.acorn group said that posting binaries was okay since it had always been done like that. However, the number of binary/source postings in comp.sys.acorn has grown far beyond any acceptable level, and the creation of the group comp.acorn.binaries is called for. (For instance, on January 10th, my site had received 725760 bytes in comp.sys.acorn in 1991, 626355 bytes being binary postings. That is a 86 percent!) AUTHOR Tiggr ([email protected]) From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 10:51:35 1993 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:898 comp.sys.acorn:709 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.sys.acorn,eunet.micro.acorn Path: rpi!tale From: [email protected] (Tiggr) Subject: CFV: comp.binaries.acorn and comp.sources.acorn Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: 25 Feb 91 04:42:15 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 84 It's: - the Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.binaries.acorn, and - the Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.sources.acorn. PLEASE read all of this article before trying to cast a vote. NAME AND CHARTER comp.binaries.acorn moderated distribution of binaries for Acorn machines. comp.sources.acorn moderated distribution of sources for Acorn machines. MODERATION Alan Glover ([email protected]) has volunteered to moderate both groups. RATIONALE The stream of binaries flooding comp.sys.acorn has become too large (comp.sys.acorn is a discussion-only group: even a single binary is too much). Hence a comp.binaries.acorn newsgroup is called for. To ensure high quality this group shall be moderated. It seems normal for a binaries group to be accompanied by a sources group; hence a comp.sources.acorn seems to be called for as well. It too shall be moderated. It is unclear whether desktop applications sources with lots of binary resource files should be posted to a sources or binaries group. It is also unclear whether such sources should be excluded from the binaries group. From the discussion it appeared that all this is a matter of taste. It doesn't seem all that relevant. VOTING PERIOD The voting period will start on the day this article appears in news.announce.newgroups. The voting period will end at the end of the 21st day (GMT) since the voting started. HOW TO VOTE A valid vote is a line or sentence containing two key elements: - one or more newsgroup names (either `comp.binaries.acorn' or `comp.sources.acorn' or both). - whether you vote for or against the creation of those newsgroups. A vote which does not contain both elements is not valid and will be ignored without notice. It is encouraged to vote on both newsgroups. It is allowed to send more than one valid vote as long as a previous valid vote on a newsgroup is not duplicated or contradicted (in which case the original vote holds and any duplicate or contradiction is ignored without notice). Mail your votes to [email protected]. HOW TO VOTE (REALLY) Send me ([email protected]) a mail containing the following: comp.binaries.acorn:comp.sources.acorn: where ` ' should be substituted by `for', `against' or something similar. ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS I will post intermediate mass acknowledgements to comp.sys.acorn and news.groups a few times. AUTHOR Tiggr ([email protected]) From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 12:32:07 1993 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:934 news.groups:22764 comp.sys.acorn:860 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.acorn Path: rpi!tale From: [email protected] (Tiggr) Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.{sources,binaries}.acorn Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: 10 Mar 91 02:44:51 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 225 It's: - the 2nd Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.binaries.acorn, and - the 2nd Call For Votes on the creation of the newsgroup comp.sources.acorn, and - a mass acknowledgement on both groups. PLEASE read all of this article before trying to cast a vote. NAME AND CHARTER comp.binaries.acorn moderated distribution of binaries for Acorn machines. comp.sources.acorn moderated distribution of sources for Acorn machines. MODERATION Alan Glover ([email protected]) has volunteered to moderate both groups. RATIONALE The stream of binaries flooding comp.sys.acorn has become too large (comp.sys.acorn is a discussion-only group: even a single binary is too much). Hence a comp.binaries.acorn newsgroup is called for. To ensure high quality this group shall be moderated. It seems normal a binaries group be accompanied by a sources group. Hence a comp.sources.acorn seems to be called for as well. It too shall be moderated. It is unclear whether desktop applications' sources with lots of binary resource files should be posted to a sources or binaries group. It is also unclear whether such sources should be excluded from the binaries group. From the discussion it appeared that all this is a matter of taste. It doesn't seem all that relevant. VOTING PERIOD The voting period has started on 25 Feb 1991. Your last chance to vote will be on 17 Mar 1991 (CET). HOW TO VOTE A valid vote is a line or sentence containing two key elements: - one or more newsgroup names (either `comp.binaries.acorn' or `comp.sources.acorn' or both). - whether you vote for or against the creation of those newsgroups. A vote which does not contain both elements is not valid and will be ignored without notice. It is encouraged to vote on both newsgroups. It is allowed to send more than one valid vote as long as a previous valid vote on a newsgroup is not duplicated or contradicted (in which case the original vote holds and any duplicate or contradiction is ignored without notice), unless the new valid vote contradicts a previous valid vote and includes a remark about the voter having changed his mind. Mail your votes to [email protected]. HOW TO VOTE (REALLY) Send me ([email protected]) a mail containing the following: comp.binaries.acorn: comp.sources.acorn: where ` ' should be substituted by `for', `against' or something similar. MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT The following usercodes have originated a valid vote on comp.binaries.acorn: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] J.P.O'[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] armltd!amerritt armltd!dseal armltd!pharrod [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email 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[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] tools!ef tools!fl [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] vision!chris [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] The following usercodes have originated a valid vote on comp.sources.acorn: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] J.P.O'[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] armltd!amerritt armltd!dseal armltd!pharrod [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] tools!ef tools!fl [email protected] [email protected] vision!chris [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] From [email protected] Wed Apr 5 19:23:39 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:960 comp.sys.acorn:915 news.groups:23219 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.sys.acorn,news.groups Path: rpi!tale From: [email protected] (Tiggr) Subject: RESULT: comp.{binaries,sources}.acorn pass {226:21,213:30} Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: 19 Mar 91 03:01:31 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 519 It's: The Results on the Voting on comp.binaries.acorn and comp.sources.acorn. COMP.BINARIES.ACORN Passed: 226 for to 21 against. COMP.SOURCES.ACORN Passed: 213 for to 30 against. MODERATION Both groups shall be moderated by Alan Glover ([email protected]). CREATION If nothing comes up, both groups will be created on March 24th. YES VOTES ON COMP.BINARIES.ACORN /tmp/[email protected] /tmp/[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] J.P.O'[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] armltd!amerritt armltd!athomas armltd!dseal armltd!pharrod [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email 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protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] NO VOTES ON COMP.BINARIES.ACORN [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] vision!chris [email protected] YES VOTES ON COMP.SOURCES.ACORN /tmp/[email protected] /tmp/[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] J.P.O'[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] armltd!athomas armltd!pharrod [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 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[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] tools!ef tools!fl [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] vision!chris [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] NO VOTES ON COMP.SOURCES.ACORN [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] armltd!amerritt armltd!dseal [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] THIS LINE IS HERE TO BE PRESENT