From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 00:48:36 1992
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From: [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Followup-To: news.groups
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A few weeks ago I placed a feeler for comp.sys.mac.advocacy in
comp.sys.mac.misc to see what sort of reaction there would be to the
concept.  As expected, there was vast indifference, but the folks who
responded produced a 12:5 ratio in favor of considering the group.

This is a formal Request For Discussion.  Folks in support of the group
are invited to review the proposed charter included here and to refine
it in light of their own views and the expressed opinions of the
proponents.  Opponents are free to comment upon the proposal, and we are
free to respond to their opinions, but the proponents have the duty to
produce a charter for the group within thirty days of the posting of
this announcement to news.announce.newgroups and other relevant groups.

In accord with the Usenet Guidelines for creating a new group, discussion
of the proposal shall take place in news.groups.  Occasional summaries
or pointers to the discussion may be placed in various comp.sys.mac
hierarchy groups if appropriate.

The Proposal
------------
Group Name:	comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Summary:	Comparative discussion of Macintosh vs. other computers

Status:		Unmoderated

Charter:	Comp.sys.mac.advocacy is a place to carry out discssion
	about the Macintosh computer family and software in comparison
	with computers and software from other companies.  All
	comparitive articles about the Macintosh should be placed here
	if posted to the comp.sys.mac newsgroups sub-tree.  No articles
	posted here should be cross-posted to other comp.sys.mac
	newsgroups.

Rational:	The existence of *.advocacy sub-groups is a recent
innovation in netnews.  There are currently 5 or 6 *.advocacy newsgroups
and they have had a mixed success.  In most cases they *have* succeded
in limiting the appearance of comparative articles in the other groups
of a hierarchy where they appear.  The purpose of an .advocacy group is
not to create a ghetto where comparative articles are exiled to, but to
control topic drift and provide a narrower focus to other groups in the
hierarchy.  It is, however, appropriate for posters to consider the
group as the followup-to group when making comparative analyses of the
Mac and other computers or other computers and the Mac.

Administrivia:  If the proposal is considered appropriate and sound by
the proponents at the end of thirty days of discussion (or sooner if
appropriate)  a Call For Votes will be issued with the (possibly)
revised charter.  At the time for the CFV, unless someone with a better
connected site (e.g. directly on the internet, not MX'd) volunteers,
votes will be sent to "[email protected]" for tabulation.
The csma-vote address will not exist until the CFV is issued.

The particulars of the vote format will be contained in the CFV, but
will likely be fairly standard (reqesting a standard text for the vote,
but not rejecting clear votes that are non-compliant.)  In the case of
duplicate votes, the latest vote received before the voting deadline
will be the determining vote.  Votes will be acknowledged by email and
the poll list will be posted (mass ack) at least twice by the vote
taker).  Following final tabulation, results will be posted in the
appropriate places, and the appropriate waiting periods andor
action/non-action will occur.

(personal note: this site is subject to severe lag in news propagation
on occasion, email is not considered to be a problem.  Those with long
net.memories may recall that I was opposed to the creation of the first
.advocacy group (comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,)  but their track record
indicates that they do serve a purpose. -ggw )
-- 
Gregory G. Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC
UUCP: ...dukcds!wolves!ggw   ...duke!wolves!ggw           [use the maps!]
Domain: [email protected]  [email protected]  ggw%[email protected]
[The line eater is a boojum snark! ]           

From [email protected] Fri Aug  7 20:55:08 1992
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From: [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 23:26:29 GMT
Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
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A month or so ago I placed a feeler for comp.sys.mac.advocacy in
comp.sys.mac.misc to see what sort of reaction there would be to the
concept.  As expected, there was vast indifference, but the folks who
responded produced a 12:5 ratio in favor of considering the group.

This was followed by the RFD.  The RFD also produced no real controversy
(except for one person who is opposed to .advocacy groups on principle).
The margin of preference did not seem to change much.

This is the Call For Votes:
	Please review the charter below and then vote if you feel
interested in expressing your opinion on the proposed newsgroup.
The Reply-To header of this message should be pointing to the correct
address.  Formal voting instructions are below.

In accord with the Usenet Guidelines for creating a new group, discussion
of the proposal took place in news.groups.

The Proposal
------------
Group Name:	comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Summary:	Comparative discussion of Macintosh vs. other computers

Status:		Unmoderated

Charter:	Comp.sys.mac.advocacy is a place to carry out discssion
	about the Macintosh computer family and software in comparison
	with computers and software from other companies.  All
	comparitive articles about the Macintosh should be placed here
	if posted to the comp.sys.mac newsgroups sub-tree.  No articles
	posted here should be cross-posted to other comp.sys.mac
	newsgroups.

Rational:	The existence of *.advocacy sub-groups is a recent
innovation in netnews.  There are currently 5 or 6 *.advocacy newsgroups
and they have had a mixed success.  In most cases they *have* succeded
in limiting the appearance of comparative articles in the other groups
of a hierarchy where they appear.  The purpose of an .advocacy group is
not to create a ghetto where comparative articles are exiled to, but to
control topic drift and provide a narrower focus to other groups in the
hierarchy.  It is, however, appropriate for posters to consider the
group as the followup-to group when making comparative analyses of the
Mac and other computers or other computers and the Mac.

Voting Instructions:

	Votes in this opinion poll will be accepted ONLY at the address:

		[email protected]

	Votes mailed elsewhere, or votes that are posted will not be
counted.
	This address should be in the Reply-To: header of this article.
	This address should be reachable by most properly configured
machines and email systems.  The address is an MX exchanger at Duke.
Alternative addresses that might be necessary:

		csmavote%[email protected]
		csmavote%[email protected]
		...!duke.cs.duke.edu!wolves!csmavote
		[email protected]

The vote should clearly have (preferably) one occurrence of the strings

		YES	or Yes  or yes
	or	NO	or No   or no
	or	ABSTAIN or Abstain  or abstain

in the Subject: header of the message envelope.  No text is required in
the body of the message.

	Votes that are not machine parseable will be handled by hand.

	The vote must be stated clearly.  If the context of the vote
implies that it is conditional, the vote cannot be counted under the
current guidelines.

	Only the most recent vote received from any particular address
will be counted in the final tally.

	Received votes will be replied to automatically.

	Mass Acknowledgements will be generated weekly.  Final results
will be tallied after the close of voting and sent to the appropriate
places for posting and action (or inaction as determined by the results.)

        No votes will be accepted after 23:59 EDT, 7 September 1992.
-- 
Gregory G. Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC
UUCP: ...dukcds!wolves!ggw   ...duke!wolves!ggw           [use the maps!]
Domain: [email protected]  [email protected]  ggw%[email protected]
[The line eater is a boojum snark! ]           

From [email protected] Tue Aug 11 12:15:58 1992
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From: [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Subject: VOTE ACK: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Summary: 139 received votes
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 03:42:55 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
Lines: 162

Below is the "pollbook" of votes received in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
new group poll.

There were a few problems with the autoreply daemon early on, and some
folks may not have received an autoreply, and some folks may have
received two.  Because of this, I am posting an early mass ack.

Summary of Voting Instructions:

	Email votes only to this account:  [email protected]

	Include the word:  YES/Yes/yes  or  NO/No/no  or
			      ABSTAIN/Abstain/abstain
			   in the Subject header of your mail.

	Votes must be unambiguous.

Vote Acknowledgments:  (Sorted From: lines)
---------------------
"Anand C. Patel" 
"Apgar, Eric" 
"C code. C code run. Run, code, run!  08-Aug-1992 0142" 
"Conrad Halton Halling" 
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" 
"Diane M. Wink" 
"Erik A. Johnson" 
"Hector I. Moran H." 
"Mark Rogowsky" 
"Robert W. Spiker" 
"Scott Ziegler" 
"Shut up, Grow up, Lighten up!" 
"john  cavallino" 
Albert Liu 
Andreas 'Ideograf' Magnusson 
Andrew Henry 
Art Nicolaysen 
Arthur Wouk 
Bengt Larsson 
Bryan Bachmeyer 
Bryan Siegfried 
CLARK MARK ALAN 
Christopher Davis 
Daryl Biberdorf 
David Dickerson 
Ed Swierk 
Evan James Torrie 
George Martin 
Greg Lindahl 
Jan Dj{rv 
Jim Gaynor 
Johnny Borders 
Jussi-Pekka Mantere 
Kathy A Graff 
L L Campbell 
MARTIN GUY CORMIER 
Mark Eaton 
Mike Fessler 
Mutant for Hire 
Neil W Rickert 
Peter Bell 
Petri M Aukia 
Quinn 
ROB DEWHIRST 
Rob Menke 
Robert Hinz 
Robert K Shull 
Samuel S. Tai 
Shigeya Suzuki 
Sven Heinicke 
Takeshi Miyazaki 
Tom Karches 
bunck 
duke!ACAD.DRAKE.EDU!PK38961
duke!ATHENA.MIT.EDU!reuven
duke!Calvin.EDU!s0067284 (Jeffrey Veen)
duke!Cigna.COM!nagel (Mark Nagel)
duke!ERE.UMontreal.CA!casgrain (Casgrain Philippe)
duke!arrisun3.uta.edu!lindahl (Charlie Lindahl)
duke!avernus.com!mgfrank (Marc G. Frank)
duke!bbs.actrix.gen.nz!Bruce.Hoult
duke!bert.cs.byu.edu!emery (Emery Weber)
duke!cattell.psych.upenn.edu!magsman (Madeleine Schneider)
duke!cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!jesup (Randell Jesup)
duke!cc.curtin.edu.au!North_TJ
duke!cc.helsinki.fi!anttipoi (Teemu Antti-Poika)
duke!chinacat.unicom.com!chip (Chip Rosenthal)
duke!cis.ksu.edu!frain (Jerry Frain)
duke!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!bx341 (Robert E. Winston)
duke!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!by303 (Jay L. Cross)
duke!cns.caltech.edu!dougm (Doug McNaught)
duke!concert!gatech!p919.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org!Arthur.Davis (Arthur Davis)
duke!coos.dartmouth.edu!abs0 (Kelvin Leung)
duke!coster.pppl.gov!dcoster (David Coster)
duke!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!csus (CS Undergrad-Society)
duke!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!gaines (Brian Gaines)
duke!crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu!rick (Richard H. Miller)
duke!cs.brown.edu!rv (rodrigo vanegas)
duke!cs.rice.edu!mcw (Michael Wirth)
duke!cs.ucdavis.edu!putzolu (David Putzolu)
duke!cs.umu.se!christer (Christer Ericson)
duke!cs.utexas.edu!ted (Ted Woodward)
duke!cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!hooverb (Bruce Hoover)
duke!csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU!U2107158
duke!devnull.mpd.tandem.com!black (David C. Black)
duke!devnull.mpd.tandem.com!ron (Ron Boerger)
duke!dhw68k.cts.com!bytebug (Roger L. Long)
duke!dunix.drake.edu!pk38961 (Pete Koucis)
duke!dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl!reinoud (R. Lamberts)
duke!emoryu1.cc.emory.edu!mphbj639 (Stephen Cristol)
duke!epx.cis.umn.edu!brian (Mr. Big Stuff)
duke!galton.uchicago.edu!irwin (Mark Irwin)
duke!gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu!walton (Sam Walton)
duke!greyrock.MSO.ColoState.EDU!gerlach (Scott Gerlach)
duke!gu.uwa.edu.au!peterb (Peter Broadribb)
duke!gumby.ocs.com!obi (Kuryan "Obi" Thomas)
duke!husc.harvard.edu!brecher
duke!husc.harvard.edu!gandhi3
duke!icbm.att.com!forbes (Michael S Forbes)
duke!informatik.unibw-muenchen.de!diessel (Thomas Diessel)
duke!king.mcs.drexel.edu!tdslotte (Dave Slotter)
duke!leland.stanford.edu!conboymj
duke!leland.stanford.edu!sigmond
duke!living.rutgers.edu!davison
duke!mailbox.syr.edu!dwfraser (Wally)
duke!metropolis.com!robert (Robert Munyer)
duke!msc2.msc.cornell.edu!maynard
duke!mtunp.att.com!ralph (Ralph Brandi)
duke!mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU!gleeson (Martin Joseph GLEESON)
duke!nada.kth.se!d88-jwa
duke!ncsa.uiuc.edu!kchang (Kenneth Chang)
duke!netcom.com!kc (Dameon D. Welch)
duke!netcom.com!stever (Steve Riggins)
duke!newssun.med.miami.edu!jpb (Joe Block)
duke!nextwork.rose-hulman.edu!sherritp
duke!novell.com!mwalker (Mel Walker)
duke!p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org!Charlie.Mingo (Charlie Mingo)
duke!panix.com!jsblau (Jonathan Blau)
duke!peora.sdc.ccur.com!bilver!vicstoy!aphelps (Austin Phelps)
duke!phoenix.Princeton.EDU!ejgraves (Eric James Graves)
duke!retina.anatomy.upenn.edu!jason (Jason Ehrlich)
duke!rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu!ejbehr (Eric Behr)
duke!scripps.edu!puitong (Pui Tong Ho)
duke!sdcc3.ucsd.edu!jlkim
duke!sfu.ca!meharg (Gersham William Meharg)
duke!snoopy.cs.umass.edu!sandy (Sandy Wise)
duke!stan.mit.edu!mhpower
duke!taronga.com!peter (Peter da Silva)
duke!terminator.cc.umich.edu!dauter
duke!toaster.SFSU.EDU!eps (Eric P. Scott)
duke!tso.uc.EDU!usr4818a (Robert E. Winston)
duke!ucrmath.ucr.edu!shawn (shawn)
duke!umbc3.umbc.edu!ehanson
duke!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!anielsen (Andrew Nielsen)
duke!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!spw (Steven P Wilkinson)
duke!vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu!agoodrid
duke!verity.com!anders
duke!world.std.com!aml (Andrew M Langmead)
jonathan lee wanak 

Total received: 139  (two sets of duplicates reduced)

			Thank You for voting!

From [email protected] Mon Aug 17 11:50:48 1992
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From: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Subject: VOTE ACK: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Message-ID: 
Followup-To: poster
Summary: 139 received votes
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:38:00 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
Lines: 332

Below is the "pollbook" of votes received in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
new group poll.

There are a few problems with the autoreply daemon, and some
folks may not have received an autoreply, and some folks may have
received two.  No votes have been counted twice.

Summary of Voting Instructions:

	Email votes only to this account:  [email protected]

	Include the word:  YES/Yes/yes  or  NO/No/no  or
			      ABSTAIN/Abstain/abstain
			   in the Subject header of your mail.

	Votes must be unambiguous.

	Poll closes at midnight (your time) between Sept 7 and Sept 8, 1992

Vote Acknowledgments:  (Sorted From: lines)
---------------------
"Alan (A.R.) Quirt" 
"Anand C. Patel" 
"Apgar, Eric" 
"C code. C code run. Run, code, run!  08-Aug-1992 0142" 
"Conrad Halton Halling" 
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" 
"Diane M. Wink" 
"Erik A. Johnson" 
"Hardcore Alaskan" 
"Hector I. Moran H." 
"IN%[email protected]" 
"John Hausmann" 
"Mark Rogowsky" 
"Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren" 
"R. Mark Jones" 
"Robert W. Spiker" 
"Ronald Pruitt" 
"Scott Ziegler" 
"Shut up, Grow up, Lighten up!" 
"john  cavallino" 
Alan Staniforth 
Albert Liu 
Andreas 'Ideograf' Magnusson 
Andrew Henry 
Art Nicolaysen 
Arthur Wouk 
Bengt Larsson 
Bill Brideson 
Bill Johnston 
Bryan Bachmeyer 
Bryan Siegfried 
CLARK MARK ALAN 
COLLIN MCCULLEY 
Christopher Davis 
Connie Cho 
Conor O'Neill 
Daryl Biberdorf 
David Dickerson 
David Roessli 
David Sheppard 
Duncan Langford 
Ed Swierk 
Edward John Sabol 
Elmer Fudd 
Ephraim Vishniac 
Eric Aubourg 
Erik Naggum 
Evan James Torrie 
Garance A Drosehn 
George Martin 
Greg Lindahl 
Gregory NOWAK 
Helen Trillian Rose 
J M Hicks 
JOHN FISKIO-LASSETER 
Jan Dj{rv 
Jim Gaynor 
Joel B Levin 
Johnny Borders 
Jon Cole 
Jussi-Pekka Mantere 
Kathy A Graff 
Kent Paul Dolan 
Kevin Junck 
Kurt Andersen 
L L Campbell 
Larry Peck 
Leonard Hermens - CS 
Lisa Bjarke 
MARTIN GUY CORMIER 
Marc Moorcroft 
Mark Eaton 
Mark Sicignano 
Matt Nieberger 
Matthias Ulrich Neeracher 
Mike Fessler 
Mike Palmer 
Mitch Bayersdorfer 
Mutant for Hire 
Neil W Rickert 
Paul Sears (Sys Admin) 
Peter Bell 
Petri M Aukia 
Quinn 
ROB DEWHIRST 
Rob Menke 
Robert Hinz 
Robert K Shull 
Samuel S. Tai 
Shigeya Suzuki 
Steve Kanefsky 
Stuart Cheshire 
Stuart M Castergine 
Stupendous Man 
Sven Heinicke 
Takeshi Miyazaki 
The Dokkalfar 
The Quantum Mechanic 
Tom Fitzgerald 
Tom Karches 
Ury Segal 
bunck 
duke!ACAD.DRAKE.EDU!PK38961
duke!ATHENA.MIT.EDU!reuven
duke!CS.UCLA.EDU!lange (Trent Lange)
duke!Calvin.EDU!s0067284 (Jeffrey Veen)
duke!Cigna.COM!nagel (Mark Nagel)
duke!DELAB.SINTEF.no!Ole.Solberg (Ole Solberg)
duke!DPW.COM!tmartin
duke!ERE.UMontreal.CA!casgrain (Casgrain Philippe)
duke!ISI.EDU!jas
duke!SCTC.COM!elder (Alex Elder)
duke!UC.EDU!Don.Rainwater (Don Rainwater)
duke!acri.fr!dbw (David Winterburn)
duke!afterlife.ncsc.mil!pkellma (Peter Kellman)
duke!ais.org!tony (Tony Poole)
duke!alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca!russell (Russell Schulz)
duke!ames.arc.nasa.gov!claris!qm!Mike_Steiner (Mike Steiner)
duke!anu.edu.au!Nick.Wyrdeman
duke!apollo.hp.com!carlton
duke!apple.com!talcott (Adam R. Talcott)
duke!apple.com!tron (Tantek Celik)
duke!arrisun3.uta.edu!lindahl (Charlie Lindahl)
duke!asgard.csuohio.edu!root (Angelo Santilli)
duke!audiofax.com!brian (Brian TroxeLL)
duke!auspex.com!hcheng (Howard Cheng)
duke!avernus.com!mgfrank (Marc G. Frank)
duke!bbs.actrix.gen.nz!Bruce.Hoult
duke!bellatrix.tdb.uu.se!m91kgh (Karl-Gunnar Hultland)
duke!bert.cs.byu.edu!emery (Emery Weber)
duke!bnr.co.uk!D.S.W.Tansley
duke!btr.com!scf (Stephen C. Fenwick  [email protected])
duke!bu-pub.bu.edu!navsaria
duke!castillo.Prime.COM!trupprec (Thomas Rupprecht)
duke!castle.edinburgh.ac.uk!jeanr
duke!cattell.psych.upenn.edu!magsman (Madeleine Schneider)
duke!cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com!jesup (Randell Jesup)
duke!cc.curtin.edu.au!North_TJ
duke!cc.helsinki.fi!anttipoi (Teemu Antti-Poika)
duke!chinacat.unicom.com!chip (Chip Rosenthal)
duke!chinet.chi.il.us!katefans (Chris n Vickie)
duke!cis.ksu.edu!frain (Jerry Frain)
duke!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!bx341 (Robert E. Winston)
duke!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!by303 (Jay L. Cross)
duke!cns.caltech.edu!dougm (Doug McNaught)
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duke!convex.cl.msu.edu!murphyjp (Man-with-tail)
duke!cookiemonster.cc.buffalo.edu!owens (Bill Owens)
duke!coombs.anu.edu.au!joshua (Joshua Geller)
duke!coos.dartmouth.edu!abs0 (Kelvin Leung)
duke!coos.dartmouth.edu!hades (Hades)
duke!cory.berkeley.edu!gousha (Charles Gousha)
duke!coster.pppl.gov!dcoster (David Coster)
duke!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!csus (CS Undergrad-Society)
duke!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!gaines (Brian Gaines)
duke!crash.canon.co.uk!tim (Tim F O'Donoghue)
duke!crash.cts.com!dvan (David Vandeven)
duke!crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu!rick (Richard H. Miller)
duke!cs.Buffalo.EDU!jmpiazza (Joseph M. Piazza)
duke!cs.brown.edu!rv (rodrigo vanegas)
duke!cs.nps.navy.mil!rpwhite (rpwhite)
duke!cs.rice.edu!mcw (Michael Wirth)
duke!cs.ucdavis.edu!putzolu (David Putzolu)
duke!cs.uiuc.edu!liberte
duke!cs.umu.se!christer (Christer Ericson)
duke!cs.utexas.edu!ted (Ted Woodward)
duke!cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!hooverb (Bruce Hoover)
duke!csdvax.csd.unsw.EDU.AU!U2107158
duke!cse.uta.edu!umbaugh (David Umbaugh)
duke!cup.portal.com!James_J_Kowalczyk
duke!dartmouth.edu!AndyJW (Andy J. Williams)
duke!devnull.mpd.tandem.com!black (David C. Black)
duke!devnull.mpd.tandem.com!ron (Ron Boerger)
duke!dhw68k.cts.com!bytebug (Roger L. Long)
duke!dunix.drake.edu!pk38961 (Pete Koucis)
duke!dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl!reinoud (R. Lamberts)
duke!eleceng.adelaide.edu.au!ajohnson
duke!emoryu1.cc.emory.edu!mphbj639 (Stephen Cristol)
duke!enuucp.eas.asu.edu!gtephx!patfieldk (Kevin M. Patfield)
duke!enuucp.eas.asu.edu!tosh!starta (John Starta)
duke!epx.cis.umn.edu!brian (Mr. Big Stuff)
duke!exu.ericsson.se!exuhag (James Hague)
duke!fenix.lin.foa.se!eriks (Erik Svensson FOA2)
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duke!garnet.cs.Virginia.EDU!spm2d
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duke!leland.stanford.edu!conboymj
duke!leland.stanford.edu!sigmond
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duke!mcs.kent.edu!mkovacs (Michael Kovacs)
duke!mdf.mitre.org!pck (Peter Krupp)
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duke!panix.com!asf (Alan S. Fink)
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duke!peora.sdc.ccur.com!bilver!vicstoy!aphelps (Austin Phelps)
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duke!prefect.cc.bellcore.com!ccw
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duke!psyvax.psy.utexas.edu!robinson
duke!research.canon.oz.au!philip (Philip Craig)
duke!resmel.bhp.com.au!ianh (Ian Hoyle)
duke!retina.anatomy.upenn.edu!jason (Jason Ehrlich)
duke!rhi.hi.is!ebth (Eggert Bjarni Thorlacius)
duke!ritvax.isc.rit.edu!cfhacc (Christopher Haupt)
duke!rp.fit.edu!murphy (Mark Murphy)
duke!rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu!ejbehr (Eric Behr)
duke!rtxirl.rtxirl.ie!tonym (Tony Mulqueen)
duke!scripps.edu!puitong (Pui Tong Ho)
duke!sdcc3.UCSD.EDU!palvarez (Pablo Alvarez-Royo)
duke!sdcc3.ucsd.edu!jlkim
duke!server1.retix.com!davidm (David H. Miller)
duke!sfu.ca!meharg (Gersham William Meharg)
duke!shearson.com!dlopez (David Lopez)
duke!slic.cellbio.duke.edu!magidj (Jonathan Magid)
duke!snoopy.cs.umass.edu!sandy (Sandy Wise)
duke!socs.uts.EDU.AU!axolotl
duke!socs.uts.EDU.AU!nigel
duke!spf.trw.com!shla (Sheila Wallace)
duke!stan.mit.edu!mhpower
duke!student.anu.edu.au!marcogan
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duke!taronga.com!peter (Peter da Silva)
duke!tcsi.tcs.com!bobmcc (Bob McCormick)
duke!tcsi.tcs.com!jwh (Joe Hughes)
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duke!tso.uc.EDU!usr4818a (Robert E. Winston)
duke!tusol.cs.trinity.edu!pmagrude (Patrick Magruder)
duke!ucrmath.ucr.edu!shawn (shawn)
duke!ucsd.edu!mstark
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duke!umbc3.umbc.edu!ehanson
duke!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!anielsen (Andrew Nielsen)
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duke!upolu.gsfc.nasa.gov!mike (Mike Jones)
duke!usl.edu!das9674 (Stephenson Daniel A)
duke!uunet.UU.NET!edsr!jem (John E. Mendenhall)
duke!uunet.UU.NET!gca!taylor (Ken Taylor)
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duke!verity.com!anders
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duke!xn.ll.mit.edu!delaney
ggw (Gregory G. Woodbury)
ianf 
jonathan lee wanak 
sfw (Sue F. Woodbury)

Total received: 307  (four sets of duplicates reduced)

			Thank You for voting!

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Below is the "pollbook" of votes received in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
new group poll as of 18:47 EDT 22 August 1992.

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received two.  There are not any votes which have been counted twice.

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Vote Acknowledgments:  (Sorted From: lines)
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"Alan (A.R.) Quirt" 
"Anand C. Patel" 
"Apgar, Eric" 
"C code. C code run. Run, code, run!  08-Aug-1992 0142" 
"Conrad Halton Halling" 
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" 
"Diane M. Wink" 
"Erik A. Johnson" 
"Hardcore Alaskan" 
"Hector I. Moran H." 
"IN%[email protected]" 
"J. Taggart Gorman" 
"John Hausmann" 
"Mark Rogowsky" 
"Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren" 
"Ms. Johanna Wise" 
"R. Mark Jones" 
"Robert W. Spiker" 
"Ronald Pruitt" 
"Scott Ziegler" 
"Shut up, Grow up, Lighten up!" 
"john  cavallino" 
Alan Staniforth 
Albert Liu 
Andreas 'Ideograf' Magnusson 
Andrew Henry 
Art Nicolaysen 
Arthur Wouk 
Bengt Larsson 
Bill Brideson 
Bill Johnston 
Bryan Bachmeyer 
Bryan Siegfried 
CLARK MARK ALAN 
COLLIN MCCULLEY 
Christopher Davis 
Connie Cho 
Conor O'Neill 
Daryl Biberdorf 
David Dickerson 
David Roessli 
David Sheppard 
Duncan Langford 
Ed Swierk 
Edward John Sabol 
Elaine Loomis 
Elmer Fudd 
Ephraim Vishniac 
Eric Aubourg 
Erik Naggum 
Evan James Torrie 
Garance A Drosehn 
George Martin 
Greg Lindahl 
Gregory NOWAK 
Helen Trillian Rose 
J M Hicks 
JOHN FISKIO-LASSETER 
Jan Dj{rv 
Jim Gaynor 
Joel B Levin 
Johnny Borders 
Jon Cole 
Jussi-Pekka Mantere 
Kathy A Graff 
Kent Paul Dolan 
Kevin Junck 
Kurt Andersen 
L L Campbell 
Larry Peck 
Leonard Hermens - CS 
Lisa Bjarke 
MARTIN GUY CORMIER 
Magnus Olsson 
Marc Moorcroft 
Mark Eaton 
Mark McKinzie 
Mark Sicignano 
Matt Nieberger 
Matthias Ulrich Neeracher 
Michael R Linksvayer 
Mike Fessler 
Mike Palmer 
Mitch Bayersdorfer 
Mutant for Hire 
Neil W Rickert 
Paul Sears (Sys Admin) 
Peter Bell 
Petri M Aukia 
Po Shan Cheah 
Quinn 
ROB DEWHIRST 
Rob Menke 
Robert Hinz 
Robert K Shull 
Ryan Bayne 
Samuel S. Tai 
Shigeya Suzuki 
Steve Kanefsky 
Steve Knight 
Stuart Cheshire 
Stuart M Castergine 
Stupendous Man 
Sven Heinicke 
Takeshi Miyazaki 
The Dokkalfar 
The Quantum Mechanic 
Tom Fitzgerald 
Tom Karches 
Ury Segal 
bunck 
dk smith 
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duke!ucrmath.ucr.edu!shawn (shawn)
duke!ucsd.edu!mstark
duke!uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!macknik
duke!ultb.isc.rit.edu!pjb4288 (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
duke!umbc3.umbc.edu!ehanson
duke!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!anielsen (Andrew Nielsen)
duke!uniwa.uwa.edu.au!spw (Steven P Wilkinson)
duke!unix1.tcd.ie!dagraham (David Graham)
duke!unixg.ubc.ca!lalonde (Chris Lalonde)
duke!upolu.gsfc.nasa.gov!mike (Mike Jones)
duke!usl.edu!das9674 (Stephenson Daniel A)
duke!uunet.UU.NET!edsr!jem (John E. Mendenhall)
duke!uunet.UU.NET!gca!taylor (Ken Taylor)
duke!vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu!agoodrid
duke!verity.com!anders
duke!virginia.PRPA.Philips.COM!yen (Yen C. Lee)
duke!weber.ucsd.edu!jbeaudry (James Beaudry)
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duke!wiscon.weizmann.ac.il!jhsegal (Akiba Segal)
duke!world.std.com!aml (Andrew M Langmead)
duke!xn.ll.mit.edu!delaney
ggw (Gregory G. Woodbury)
ianf 
jonathan lee wanak 
sfw (Sue F. Woodbury)

	339 votes received and counted
	  7 duplicates reduced


	Thank you for voting.

From [email protected] Mon Aug 31 21:21:13 1992
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Subject: VOTE ACK: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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Summary: 352 received votes
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Below is the "pollbook" of votes received in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
new group poll as of 13:10 EDT 31 August 1992.

This is the last VOTE ACK before the close of the survey on the September
7th-8th boundary.  If you have not voted, and wish to express an opinion on 
the creation of the newsgroup, please do so soon.

I have had a few problems with the autoreply daemon, and some
folks may not have received an autoreply, and some folks may have
received two.  There are not any votes which have been counted twice.

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"Alan (A.R.) Quirt" 
"Anand C. Patel" 
"Apgar, Eric" 
"C code. C code run. Run, code, run!  08-Aug-1992 0142" 
"Conrad Halton Halling" 
"Dave V. Schaller" 
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" 
"David W. Rankin Jr." 
"Diane M. Wink" 
"Eric Berdahl" 
"Erik A. Johnson" 
"Hardcore Alaskan" 
"Hector I. Moran H." 
"IN%[email protected]" 
"J. Taggart Gorman" 
"John Hausmann" 
"Mark Rogowsky" 
"Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren" 
"Ms. Johanna Wise" 
"R. Mark Jones" 
"Robert W. Spiker" 
"Ronald Pruitt" 
"Scott Ziegler" 
"Shut up, Grow up, Lighten up!" 
"john  cavallino" 
Alan Staniforth 
Albert Liu 
Andreas 'Ideograf' Magnusson 
Andrew Henry 
Art Nicolaysen 
Arthur Wouk 
Bengt Larsson 
Bill Brideson 
Bill Johnston 
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CLARK MARK ALAN 
COLLIN MCCULLEY 
Christopher Davis 
Connie Cho 
Conor O'Neill 
Daryl Biberdorf 
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Duncan Langford 
Ed Swierk 
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Elaine Loomis 
Elmer Fudd 
Ephraim Vishniac 
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Erik Naggum 
Evan James Torrie 
Garance A Drosehn 
George Martin 
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J M Hicks 
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Jan Dj{rv 
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Joel B Levin 
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Jon Cole 
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Kathy A Graff 
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Kevin Junck 
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L L Campbell 
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Lisa Bjarke 
MARTIN GUY CORMIER 
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Neil W Rickert 
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duke!usl.edu!das9674 (Stephenson Daniel A)
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duke!uunet.UU.NET!gca!taylor (Ken Taylor)
duke!vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu!agoodrid
duke!verity.com!anders
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duke!weber.ucsd.edu!jbeaudry (James Beaudry)
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duke!world.std.com!aml (Andrew M Langmead)
duke!xn.ll.mit.edu!delaney
ggw (Gregory G. Woodbury)
ianf 
jonathan lee wanak 
sfw (Sue F. Woodbury)

	352 counted votes  (359 received)
	  7 duplicated reduced to one vote
-- 
				C.S.M.A Vote Taker
				Gregory G. Woodbury
				[email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Sep  8 23:34:32 1992
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Gregory G Woodbury)
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.mac.advocacy passes 261:106
Message-ID: 
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: The Wolve's Den UNIX, Durham NC
References: 
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:09:11 GMT
Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
Lines: 418

Below is the "pollbook" of votes received in the comp.sys.mac.advocacy
new group poll as of 00:01 EDT  8 August 1992.

Vote Tabulation:

	377 votes received
	  8 simple duplicates reduced to one each

	369 votes counted

	  2 abstains
	106 no
	261 yes
	-------------
	369 total

	261 yes
      - 106 no
	-------------
	159 margin  (more than 100 more yes than no!)

	261 / 369 = 0.707 = 70.7%  (more than 2/3 [66%] in favor!)

Having met the declared criteria, it appears that the vote for
comp.sys.mac.advocacy has passed.

The list of voters, grouped by how they voted, appears below.  If there
are no substantial changes to the recorded votes within the 5 days from
the posting of this article, the group creation message will be issued
by David Lawrence (tale@uunet).

During the vote, two ambiguous ballots were received (with no indication
of yes or no in the headers or the message.) Simple email informing the
voter that the votes could not be counted because of no information
resulted in the voters concerned submitting valid votes (1 each yes and
no.)

Thanks to everyone who voted.
				Gregory G. Woodbury
				CSMA Vote Taker

Abstain votes (2)
=============================================================
Ryan Bayne 
duke!cs.wisc.edu!tuc (Brian A. Cole)

No votes (106)
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"Dave V. Schaller" 
"David W. Rankin Jr." 
"Diane M. Wink" 
"Eric J. Olson" 
"Hardcore Alaskan" 
"Robert W. Spiker" 
"Ronald Pruitt" 
"john  cavallino" 
Arthur Wouk 
Bengt Larsson 
Bill Johnston 
Bryan Siegfried 
Conor O'Neill 
Duncan Langford 
Edward John Sabol 
Eric Aubourg 
Erik Naggum 
George Martin 
Gordon Dohle 
Greg Lindahl 
Gregory NOWAK 
Jan Dj{rv 
Jim Gaynor 
Joel B Levin 
Leonard Hermens - CS 
Magnus Olsson 
Marc Moorcroft 
Mark Eaton 
Mark Sicignano 
Mike Fessler 
Mike Palmer 
Neil W Rickert 
Paul Sears (Sys Admin) 
Peter Bell 
Po Shan Cheah 
Rob Menke 
Sven Heinicke 
Tom Fitzgerald 
Tom Karches 
Ury Segal 
bunck 
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Yes Votes (261)
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"Alan (A.R.) Quirt" 
"Anand C. Patel" 
"Apgar, Eric" 
"C code. C code run. Run, code, run!  08-Aug-1992 0142" 
"Conrad Halton Halling" 
"David C. Croson, 3rd Year BusEc" 
"Eric Berdahl" 
"Erik A. Johnson" 
"Hector I. Moran H." 
"IN%[email protected]" 
"J. Taggart Gorman" 
"John Hausmann" 
"Mark Rogowsky" 
"Matthew S. 'Opie' Warren" 
"Ms. Johanna Wise" 
"R. Mark Jones" 
"Scott Ziegler" 
"Sendhil Revuluri" 
"Shut up, Grow up, Lighten up!" 
Alan Staniforth 
Albert Liu 
Andreas 'Ideograf' Magnusson 
Andrew Henry 
Art Nicolaysen 
Bill Brideson 
Bryan Bachmeyer 
CLARK MARK ALAN 
COLLIN MCCULLEY 
Christopher Davis 
Connie Cho 
Daryl Biberdorf 
David Dickerson 
David Roessli 
David Sheppard 
Ed Swierk 
Elaine Loomis 
Elmer Fudd 
Ephraim Vishniac 
Evan James Torrie 
Garance A Drosehn 
Helen Trillian Rose 
J M Hicks 
JOHN FISKIO-LASSETER 
Johnny Borders 
Jon Cole 
Jussi-Pekka Mantere 
Kathy A Graff 
Kent Paul Dolan 
Kevin Junck 
Kurt Andersen 
L L Campbell 
Larry Peck 
Lisa Bjarke 
MARTIN GUY CORMIER 
Mark McKinzie 
Matt Nieberger 
Matthias Ulrich Neeracher 
Michael R Linksvayer 
Mitch Bayersdorfer 
Mutant for Hire 
Petri M Aukia 
Quinn 
ROB DEWHIRST 
Robert Hinz 
Robert K Shull 
Samuel S. Tai 
Shigeya Suzuki 
Steve Kanefsky 
Steve Knight 
Steven M Casburn 
Stuart Cheshire 
Stuart M Castergine 
Stupendous Man 
Takeshi Miyazaki 
The Dokkalfar 
The Quantum Mechanic 
Tuomas Siren 
dk smith 
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