From [email protected] Wed Sep  7 16:29:15 1994
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Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.packages.alias
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
comp.graphics.packages.alias
______________________________________________________

Group name:	comp.graphics.packages.alias
Status:		Unmoderated
Summary		Discussion on all aspects of modeling,animation, and paint
programs from Alias Research.
Proposed by:	Mark Jordan 

This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the creation of an
unmoderated news group, comp.soft-sys.alias, dedicated to the topic of
Alias software products and their application.  The discussion period
will last at least 22 days, and if no objections are raised will
result in a call for votes (CFV).


CHARTER
----------------------------------------------------------

This group will be dedicated to the discussion of Alias software
products and their application.  These products include, but are not
limited to Alias PowerAnimator, Alias Studio, Alias Sketch!, and Alias
Eclipse.

Appropriate topics within these guidelines might include technical
questions, tips and tricks, information about Alias products old and
new, and announcement of employment opportunities of interest to
subscribers.

RATIONALE
----------------------------------------------------------

There is currently a listserv mailing list (administered by myself)
dedicated to this topic with approximately 200 subscribers and rather
heavy traffic.  The traffic issue has led many subscribers, who
typically might subscribe to many such lists, to suggest that an
actual news group might be a more appropriate forum for discussion.
The University of Georgia will set up a mail gateway for those who do
not have Internet access.

Alias (PowerAnimator and/or Studio) is a very powerful and complex
software package.  One of the industry's high-end packages for design
and animation, it's use is as varied as Volvos and Dinosaurs.
Examples of recent applications include the films Jurassic Park and
The Mask, and product design from Apple PowerBooks to Cadillacs.


The name of the group, comp.graphics.packages.alias, was suggested by
a member of group advice.

CROSS-POSTINGS
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This RFD is being Cross-Posted to the following groups:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
comp.graphics
comp.graphics.animation
comp.graphics.raytracing
comp.graphics.visualization
comp.sys.sgi.graphics
comp.sys.sgi.apps
alt.artcom

It will also be posted to the mailing list, [email protected].


Please note that ALL discussion should take place in the group,news.groups
according to guidelines.  If there are no outstanding issues at the end of 22
days of posting, I will contact Mr. Ron Dippold, an independent third party,
for a call for votes (CFV) to be issued and a vote to be taken

From [email protected] Mon Oct 10 13:03:55 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: CFV: comp.graphics.packages.alias
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                      1st CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

Unmoderated group comp.graphics.packages.alias

Newsgroups line:
comp.graphics.packages.alias	3-D graphics software from Alias Research.

Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 October 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Contact the
votetaker, Ed Bailey , with any questions
about voting procedures. Questions about the proposed group should be
sent to the proponent, Mark Jordan .

This CFV will be posted to the Alias mailing list.
  Posting address: [email protected]
  Subscription address: [email protected]


CHARTER

This group will be dedicated to the discussion of Alias software products and
their application.  These products include, but are not limited to Alias
PowerAnimator, Alias Studio, Alias Sketch!, and Alias Eclipse.

Appropriate topics within these guidelines might include technical questions,
tips and tricks, information about Alias products old and new, and announcement
of employment opportunities of interest to subscribers.

A bi-directional gateway will be set up between this group and the mailing
list, [email protected].


STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      [email protected]
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

       I vote YES on comp.graphics.packages.alias.
       I vote NO on comp.graphics.packages.alias.
       I vote ABSTAIN on comp.graphics.packages.alias.
       I vote CANCEL on comp.graphics.packages.alias.

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving
the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be
rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  An "abstain" vote has no
effect on the result, but your vote will be registered.

If you later change your mind you may send in another vote.  Only the last
valid vote received will count.  You may also vote "cancel", which is similiar
to "abstain", but your vote will not be listed in the final vote tally.

You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within
one to three days.  Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only
ACKs for undeliverable mail.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply:  One vote per person (regardless
of how many accounts you have) and one vote per account (regardless of
how many people use that account).  Votes from system accounts, e.g.
root, postmaster, et al., and votes from anonymous accounts will be
rejected.  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.  Addresses and votes of all
voters will be published in the final voting results list.
--
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."

From [email protected] Fri Oct 21 11:10:37 1994
Path: uunet!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.graphics.packages.alias
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                      2nd and FINAL CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)

Unmoderated group comp.graphics.packages.alias

Newsgroups line:
comp.graphics.packages.alias	3-D graphics software from Alias Research.

Votes must be recieved by 23:59:59 UTC, 31 October 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Contact the
votetaker, Ed Bailey , with any questions
about voting procedures. Questions about the proposed group should be
sent to the proponent, Mark Jordan .

This CFV will be posted to the Alias mailing list.
  Posting address: [email protected]
  Subscription address: [email protected]


CHARTER

This group will be dedicated to the discussion of Alias software products and
their application.  These products include, but are not limited to Alias
PowerAnimator, Alias Studio, Alias Sketch!, and Alias Eclipse.

Appropriate topics within these guidelines might include technical questions,
tips and tricks, information about Alias products old and new, and announcement
of employment opportunities of interest to subscribers.

A bi-directional gateway will be set up between this group and the mailing
list, [email protected].


STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      [email protected]
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

       I vote YES on comp.graphics.packages.alias.
       I vote NO on comp.graphics.packages.alias.
       I vote ABSTAIN on comp.graphics.packages.alias.
       I vote CANCEL on comp.graphics.packages.alias.

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving
the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be
rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  An "abstain" vote has no
effect on the result, but your vote will be registered.

If you later change your mind you may send in another vote.  Only the last
valid vote received will count.  You may also vote "cancel", which is similiar
to "abstain", but your vote will not be listed in the final vote tally.

You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within
one to three days.  Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only
ACKs for undeliverable mail.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply:  One vote per person (regardless
of how many accounts you have) and one vote per account (regardless of
how many people use that account).  Votes from system accounts, e.g.
root, postmaster, et al., and votes from anonymous accounts will be
rejected.  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.  Addresses and votes of all
voters will be published in the final voting results list.

BOUNCED VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

All votes received by October 18th, 23:59 GMT have been counted and ACKed.
Vote acknowledgements sent to the following addresses have bounced.  These
votes *have* been counted, but I have been unable to reply to their mail.
If you voted, but you have NOT received an ACK *and* your name is NOT listed
below, then your vote was probably lost somewhere in the ether.  Please
send another vote to [email protected].

[email protected]                                  Rich Schoenfeld
[email protected]                                                 James Dale Polk
Kevin=Herrod%Desktop%[email protected] 
Heidi=DeRick%Desktop%[email protected]
[email protected]                                     Dave Shariff Yadallee


The following people have sent malformed ballots which have not been
superceded by a Yes, No, or Abstain vote.  These people should revote.

[email protected]                                          John Goodman
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                               Robert Russ
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                 Steve A. Chall
   ! No vote statement in message

Ed Bailey
Votetaker for comp.graphics.packages.alias
--
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."

From [email protected] Thu Nov  3 17:30:17 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics.visualization,comp.sys.sgi.graphics
Subject: RESULT: comp.graphics.packages.alias passes 181:35
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			VOTE RESULT


Unmoderated group comp.graphics.packages.alias passes 181:35

Newsgroups line:
comp.graphics.packages.alias	3-D graphics software from Alias Research.

Voting on comp.graphics.packages.alias closed 23:59:59 UTC, 31 October 1994.
There were 181 YES votes and 35 NO votes, for a total of 216 valid votes. 
There were 2 invalid ballots.  11 ballots were superceded or deleted as
duplicates.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

This RESULT will be posted to the Alias mailing list.
  Posting address: [email protected]
  Subscription address: [email protected]

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.
Votetaker: Ed Bailey 
Proponent: Mark Jordan 

CHARTER

This group will be dedicated to the discussion of Alias software products and
their application.  These products include, but are not limited to Alias
PowerAnimator, Alias Studio, Alias Sketch!, and Alias Eclipse.

Appropriate topics within these guidelines might include technical questions,
tips and tricks, information about Alias products old and new, and announcement
of employment opportunities of interest to subscribers.

A bi-directional gateway will be set up between this group and the mailing
list, [email protected].

comp.graphics.packages.alias Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                           Paul Curtis
[email protected]                                 Christian Schormann
[email protected]                                            Andy Cook
[email protected]                            Paul L. Finelt 72567,3274
[email protected]                                                       Ray Ball
[email protected]                                                      Albert Ang
[email protected]                                                  Alan Boucek
[email protected]                                           
[email protected]                                          Nigel Allen
[email protected]                                             a.e.mossberg
[email protected]                                           Andrew Rawling
[email protected]                      Jens Albrecht
[email protected]                                           Alessandra Setti
[email protected]                                        Alex Cech
[email protected]                                           Anselm Hook
[email protected]                                       Ascension Technology
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                                   
[email protected]                                      Steven C. Beck
[email protected]                                                     Rebecca Chow
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                           Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                        Birger Sevaldson
[email protected]                                              Brett Gardy
[email protected]                                            Brian Green
[email protected]                                            Brian D. Wilson
[email protected]                                             Darryl W. Campbell
[email protected]                                                             Casey
[email protected]                               Pierluca Cattaneo 21315
[email protected]                                                  Chris Trimble
[email protected]                                Christy Hermansen
[email protected]                                  chris williams
[email protected]                                         Craig McPheeters
[email protected]                                             Jason Cobb
[email protected]                                       Bob Cowling
[email protected]                                             Jay Cox
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                                    Tom Cushwa
[email protected]                                            Darlene Hadrika
[email protected]                               Thomas R. DeCarlo
[email protected]                             Francisco X DeJesus
[email protected]                                        Deanan DaSilva
[email protected]                                            David Griffiths
[email protected]                                 David Koffman
[email protected]                                                 Darrell
[email protected]                                                    Dan Urlich
[email protected]                                         Eric Case
[email protected]                                                    Bruno Cantieni
[email protected]                                                  Fred Holmstock
[email protected]                                        Fred Sistler
[email protected]                                      Jim Gannon
[email protected]                                     Gilles Dignard
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                       Glenn Leavell
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[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                          Frederick J. Haab
[email protected]                                            Suzi Hammon
[email protected]                                      David J. Hansen
[email protected]                                         Harold Pritchett
[email protected]                                                  Perry Harovas
Heidi=DeRick%Desktop%[email protected]                             
[email protected]                                          Jeremy M. Heiner
[email protected]                                             Henning Hoffmann
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[email protected]                                                   Ian Justin
[email protected]                                            Bruce Jatko
[email protected]                                                     Jon Barry
[email protected]                                                      Jaime Castells
[email protected]                         J.D. Almand DOAS Telcom
[email protected]                                                  Jeff Ellis
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                                Jim Goddard
[email protected]                                                 James Dale Polk
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                             Jason T. Kitch
[email protected]                                               Joe Lohmar
[email protected]                                                    John Morch
[email protected]                                      John Cooley
[email protected]                                    John Parham
[email protected]                                             Mark Jordan
[email protected]                                            Joshua Kolden
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                      Justin Murdock
[email protected]                                          Nagui Anis Khalil
Kevin=Herrod%Desktop%[email protected]                             
[email protected]                                           Michael Klouda
[email protected]                                          Ken Koller
[email protected]                                               Kevin Tureski
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                             Brian LaFrance
[email protected]                                    Leif Ashley
[email protected]                                  Larry Pounds, UCNS/MSD
[email protected]                                                        Len Wanger
[email protected]                                              John Tissavary
[email protected]                              Stefan Maehler
[email protected]                                  Marcus Fehse
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                                       Mark F.
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                             Matthew Lane
[email protected]                                            Mauro Mosconi
[email protected]                                    Christopher C McAfee
[email protected]                                          Pam McDonald
[email protected]                                               Mikael Nordanaker
[email protected]                                                          milan
[email protected]                                                          milos
[email protected]                                         Michael Lounsbery
[email protected]                                                                  
[email protected]                                          Michael Miller
[email protected]                                           Moira Minoughan
[email protected]                                 Achim Moller
[email protected]                                        Maria Mortati
[email protected]                                       Richard Moxley
[email protected]                                      Michael Philip
[email protected]                                                       Mark Adams
MRGATE::\"A1::STUCKE_DW\""@nsvax.corning.com                                  
[email protected]                                        Mike Sandrik
[email protected]                                          Matthew Shriver
[email protected]                                             Martin Turner
[email protected]                                            Andreas Muhar
[email protected]                                       Mike Zollinger
[email protected]                                        N.Adamson
[email protected]                           CVL staff member Nate Sammons
[email protected]                                           Nick C. Fotis
[email protected]                                             karen nir
[email protected]                                                 Neuromancer
[email protected]                                         Nicholas Higgett
[email protected]                                                    
[email protected]                                                           
[email protected]                                      Paul F Neumann
[email protected]                                            Petri Nordlund
[email protected]                                              Philip Goldworth
[email protected]                                                       Paul Lind
[email protected]                                                                
[email protected]                                         Peter Santangeli
[email protected]                                          Philip D. Thorn
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                  Rich Schoenfeld
[email protected]                                         Raul Rivero
[email protected]                                         Bob Kurhajetz
[email protected]                                        Rachel Nador
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                                 
[email protected]                                                 Russell Isler
[email protected]                                       Aaron Schuman
[email protected]                                                   Sean Schur
[email protected]                                       Sean Yamamoto
[email protected]                                                  Steve Follin
[email protected]                                                   Stuart Gold
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                  Silviu Borac
[email protected]                                                         
[email protected]                                     Scott Robertson
[email protected]                         Philipp Slusallek
[email protected]                                              vincent (v.) somoza
[email protected]                             Michael Stark
[email protected]                                            Stephan Meyers
[email protected]                                              Sterling M. Hill
[email protected]                                             Steve Walker
[email protected]                                                 Steve A. Chall
[email protected]                                         David Stewart
[email protected]                                             Suresh Krishnajois
[email protected]                                     Tamasi, Anthony
[email protected]                                      Tibor Cs Grose
[email protected]                                  Tiffany Oquinn
[email protected]                                              Timothy Jones
[email protected]                                          Todd M. Cocks
[email protected]                                                        Tom Burns
[email protected]                                         howard d kavinsky
[email protected]                                               Douglass Turner
[email protected]                                        Una Smith
[email protected]                                                      David C
[email protected]                                                    Wade Howie
[email protected]                                                 David Nix
[email protected]                                                 Wynn B. Rust
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                      Nagarjun Yetukuri
[email protected]                                               
[email protected]                                              Steve Theodore

Voted No
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[email protected]                                               Andy M. Kar
[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                                                   Cat Stanton
[email protected]                                              Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                                         Ernest A. Cline
[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                   Peter Campbell
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                Helmut Geyer
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                                John Lacey
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                       J. Porter Clark
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                                John T. West
[email protected]                                                             
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                 Jeremy S. Leon
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                                   M. Otto
[email protected]                                                  
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                                    Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                           Polymer
[email protected]                                              Sean Irvine
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                       Vincent J. Pachiano Jr.
[email protected]                                        Wally Garchow


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                   Colin Smith
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                          John Goodman
   ! No vote statement in message

Ed Bailey
Votetaker for comp.graphics.packages.alias
-- 
Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715
Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: bailey@{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu,
Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected]
Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."