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From [email protected] Mon Jan 15 16:19:16 1996
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
               unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh

This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet Newsgroup comp.lang.scheme.scsh

RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic
and readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no
interest to general comp.lang.scheme readers.

CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all aspects
of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to create the
unmoderated Usenet group comp.lang.scheme.scsh. This message initiates
a discussion period to consider the creation of the newsgroup. The
discussion will take place on news.groups. All follow-up posts should
be made to news.groups Please subscribe to news.groups if you wish to
participate in the discussion.

A Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted within 21 to 30 days of this
posting, per the rules outlined in the Newsgroup Creation Companion.
This vote will be administered by a neutral third party, not
participating in the debate.

** Please limit all discussion regarding this RFD to news.groups only.
All comments should be posted there.**

**This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now ****

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation,
and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups:

comp.lang.scheme
comp.lang.scheme.c
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups

and forwarded to the [email protected] mailing list

PROPONENTS:

Scott Draves <[email protected]>
Olin Shivers <[email protected]>
Brian D. Carlstrom <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Mon Feb 12 13:42:46 1996
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From: [email protected]
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Subject: CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh	SCSH - the Scheme Shell.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent:  Scott Draves <[email protected]>
Proponent: Olin Shivers <[email protected]>
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>


RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.

there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.


CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:   [email protected]

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

      I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
      I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

        comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c

From [email protected] Sun Feb 25 07:35:39 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.scheme.scsh
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh	SCSH - the Scheme Shell.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Mar 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent:  Scott Draves <[email protected]>
Proponent: Olin Shivers <[email protected]>
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>


RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.

there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.


CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:   [email protected]

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

      I vote YES on comp.lang.scheme.scsh
      I vote NO on comp.lang.scheme.scsh

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal
acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several
days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

        comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c

From [email protected] Tue Mar  5 06:11:08 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c
Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24
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                                RESULT
        unmoderated group comp.lang.scheme.scsh passes 134:24

There were 134 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 158 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.scheme.scsh	SCSH - the Scheme Shell.

This was being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent:  Scott Draves <[email protected]>
Proponent: Olin Shivers <[email protected]>
Proponent: Brian D. Carlstrom <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

There is a scsh mailing list with significant (and growing) traffic and
readership, much of which is particular to scsh and is of no interest to
general comp.lang.scheme readers.

there is an alt.lang.scheme.scsh newsgroup, but it has distribution and
gateway problems.


CHARTER: comp.lang.scheme.scsh

The group comp.lang.scheme.scsh is for the discussion of all
aspects of scsh, the Scheme Shell.

END CHARTER.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV has been cross-posted to:

        comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.scheme.c

comp.lang.scheme.scsh Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                        Michael Shook
[email protected]                                          Harvey J. Stein
[email protected]                                        Stephen Adams
[email protected]                                                   Alan Bawden
[email protected]                                             Benny Amorsen
[email protected]                                             Andy Arkhipov
[email protected]                                          James Aspnes
[email protected]                                                Andrew V. Klein
[email protected]                                          Aleksandar Bakic
[email protected]                                     Brian A. LaMacchia
[email protected]                               Basile STARYNKEVITCH
[email protected]                                                 Bruce Duba
[email protected]                                           Bernard URBAN
[email protected]                                       Clifford Beshers
[email protected]                                                Brian Harvey
[email protected]                                            B. Robert Helm
[email protected]                                                   Shag
[email protected]                                              Brent Benson
[email protected]                                   Robert E. Brown
[email protected]                                                 Kees de Bruin
[email protected]                                           Bruno Verlyck
[email protected]                                       D. L. Mosher
[email protected]                                         Carl Alexander
[email protected]                                  Christopher Jeris
[email protected]                                                Carl L. Gay
[email protected]                                               Charles Kung
[email protected]
[email protected]                                             Christian Moen
[email protected]                                         Juergen Christoffel
[email protected]                                                      Chuck Fry
[email protected]                                      Cameron Laird
[email protected]                                             Mike Coleman
[email protected]                                             Cormac Flanagan
[email protected]                                      Soren Dayton
[email protected]                                                      Dave Love
[email protected]                                                Daniel Neri
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Minister of Truth
[email protected]                                            Allyn Dimock
[email protected]                                              Dongil Shin
[email protected]                                                Dorai Sitaram
[email protected]                                        David Roth
[email protected]                                            Daniel S Chen
[email protected]                                              David M. Siegel
[email protected]                                      Stevens Didier
[email protected]                                                            Robert
[email protected]                                            Kjetil Valstadsve
[email protected]
[email protected]                                                 Elliot Schwartz
[email protected]                                           Sergei Egorov
[email protected]                                              David Fox
[email protected]                                              Noah Friedman
[email protected]                                                   Gary Capell
[email protected]                                        George J. Carrette
[email protected]                                       Robert Goldman
[email protected]                                                  Mike Gunter
[email protected]                                      Joshua D. Guttman
hardy@lynx.ps.uci.edu                                Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)
haugha@chaq.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de                            Hannes Haug
henry@research.nj.nec.com                                         Henry Cejtin
Holger.Duerer@wowbagger.pc-labor.uni-bremen.de    Holger Duerer - Esperanto pa
hutch@RedRock.com                                                Bob Hutchison
hw41652@is1.bfu.vub.ac.be                                        Van Deun Dirk
jaf@cs.wustl.edu                                                Andy Fingerhut
jameson@realcase.com                                             Kevin Jameson
jec@dcs.ed.ac.uk                                            Juliusz Chroboczek
jhowland@ariel.cs.trinity.edu                                  John E. Howland
jjannott@goober.mit.edu                                          John Jannotti
jlinder@lslsun.epfl.ch                                           Julien Linder
jmacd@bosch.CS.Berkeley.EDU                                     Josh MacDonald
johnm@netcom.com                                              J_Gerard Malecki
johno@paul.rutgers.edu                                           John Oleynick
jsc@atype.com                                                      Jin S. Choi
jst@firis20.iar.nrc.ca                                Jean-Sebastien Theriault
keith@neuromancer.lib.uchicago.edu                               Keith Waclena
kim@shell.portal.com                                              Kim DeVaughn
lemmens@simplex.nl
lhr@martigny.ai.mit.edu                                      Luis H. Rodriguez
lvirden@cas.org                                                Larry W. Virden
MattC@eworld.com
mb12@coconet.de                                                 Michael Becker
mcc@watson.ibm.com                                            Mark Chu-Carroll
metzemakers@labri.u-bordeaux.fr                               Timo Metzemakers
mflatt@cs.rice.edu                                               Matthew Flatt
mgass@bach.math.csbsju.edu                                        Michael Gass
Michael.Robinson@sans.vuw.ac.nz                                           Smrf
mly@adoc.xerox.com                                            Richard Mlynarik
mspal@mppmu.mpg.de                                           Michael Spalinski
mwdaniel@uiuc.edu                                           Michael W. Daniels
nd202@newton.cam.ac.uk                                             Neil Dunbar
nicolas@didec20.epfl.ch                                     Christophe Nicolas
Ollivier.Robert@hsc.fr.net                                     Ollivier Robert
orc@pell.chi.il.us                                                         Orc
osada@keu04.rtri.or.jp                                          Hiroyasu OSADA
paxil@interlog.com                                                       Paxil
pcolsen@acm.org                      Peter.C.Olsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us, "P.E.
pdepasca@didec29.epfl.ch                                     Pierre De Pascale
perrier@studi.epfl.ch                                        Jean-Yves Perrier
pjcagnar@didec22.epfl.ch                                     Paul-Jean Cagnard
pluim@xylint.co.uk                                                Robert Pluim
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU                                                Pete Bastien
puech@limeil.cea.fr                                                    F Puech
r.steicke@BoM.GOV.AU                                           Russell Steicke
rantapaa@math.umn.edu                                         Erik E. Rantapaa
raul@scs.leeds.ac.uk                                                 R H Lopes
rehmi@lite.fix.org                                                  Rehmi Post
rmcmanus@jpmorgan.com                                             Russ McManus
robby@cs.rice.edu
roland@ontos.com                                               Roland McKenney
rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu                                            J. Rufinus
schaefer@didec21.epfl.ch                                         Marc Schaefer
schinz@studi.epfl.ch                                             Michel Schinz
sheldon@lcs.mit.edu                                            Mark A. Sheldon
shivers@lambda.ai.mit.edu                                         Olin Shivers
shriram@cs.rice.edu                                      Shriram Krishnamurthi
sjenkins@iastate.edu
skilchen@ncrcha.Switzerland.NCR.COM
sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de         Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]
Stephen.Ma@jtec.com.au                                              Stephen Ma
stu@valinor.mythical.com                                          Stu Labovitz
tbl@nexen.com                                                        Tom Lyons
tfb@aiai.ed.ac.uk                                                 Tim Bradshaw
tih@Hamartun.Priv.NO                                           Tom I Helbekkmo
Tim.Geisler@informatik.uni-muenchen.de                             Tim Geisler
tonyg@kcbbs.gen.nz                                          Tony Garnock-Jones
trail@ix.netcom.com                                             Jeff Trestrail
vargish@mailbox.ser.bbnplanet.com                             Nicholas Vargish
vhansen@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de                      Wolfgang von Hansen
vmanis@ibm.net                                                   Vincent Manis
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu                                             David Wald
xanthian@qualcomm.com                                          Kent Paul Dolan
xjam@cork.cs.berkeley.edu                                      Brian F. Dennis
yuval.peduel@channel1.com                                         Yuval Peduel
ziggy@martigny.ai.mit.edu                                     Michael R. Blair

Voted No
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artstone@cris.com                                                    Art Stone
bresnab@tiac.net                                               Brian Bresnahan
csaamw@urc.tue.nl                                               Michiel Wijers
douglas@netdoor.com                                            Douglas Stewart
jay@magic-sam.CS.UNLV.EDU                                         Jay Nietling
jchamber@unlinfo.unl.edu                                       Jeff M Chambers
jrm@globalvillag.com                                     John R. MacWilliamson
lewikk@grasshopper.aud.alcatel.com                              Kevin K. Lewis
lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us                                           Gerry Swetsky
olav@viking.mv.com                                             Olav Nieuwejaar
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rlcarr@animato.pn.com                                      Richard L. Carreiro
rossix!davidmo@openlink.one-o.com                                  David Moore
ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu                                     Glen Patrick Ryan
sam@sam.franken.de                                                Sassan Simai
SFX@appl2.hrz.uni-siegen.de                                    Lars Eilebrecht
smarry@turing.toronto.edu                                         Smarasderagd
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
SwatQuest@aol.com
tgriff@ix.netcom.com                                               Tom Griffin
tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu                             Todd C. Lawson
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu                                        Tim Pierce
whukriede@ifm.uni-kiel.d400.de
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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Nathanael.MAKAREVITCH@ifp.fr                             Nathanael Makarevitch
   ! Conflicting votes
root@ncrcha.Switzerland.NCR.COM
   ! Invalid address
ryno@ryno.phl.jhu.edu                                              Rynasiewicz
   ! Conflicting votes
 
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