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From rko@sotka.cs.tut.fi Mon Jun 28 09:10:35 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rko@sotka.cs.tut.fi (Risto Kotalampi)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: RFD: rec.radio.scanner
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 23 Jun 1993 21:59:33 -0400
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION : CREATION OF REC.RADIO.SCANNER (UNMODERATED)
--------------------------------------------------------------------

This request for discussion is the beginning of the newsgroup creation
process outlined in GUIDELINES FOR NEWSGROUP CREATION, which can be
found in news.groups. This RFD is in response to discussion in
rec.radio.shortwave, alt.radio.scanner and news.groups.

The creation of rec.radio.scanner has two purposes:

1) Since many sites refuse to carry alt.* groups, alt.radio.scanner could
   be more effective as rec.radio.scanner.

2) Scanner-related material in rec.radio.shortwave will be moved to
   rec.radio.scanner.


CHARTER
-------

Proposed rec.radio.scanner would be a newsgroup for discussion about
"utility" traffic above 30 MHz. FM & TV-broadcasting, shortwave,
amateur radio and satellite-related material doesn't belong to 
rec.radio.scanner because they have their own newsgroups. Newsgroup
would replace alt.radio.scanner. Also, the newsgroup will be
gatewayed to a mailinglist, because everyone doesn't have an
access to USENET news. The site of the mailinglist is not
yet known - suggestions are welcome during the discussion period.


30-DAY DISCUSSION PERIOD
------------------------

The newsgroup creation guidelines require a 30-day discussion period.
THAT 30-DAY PERIOD HAS STARTED AND LASTS FROM JUNE 23, 1993 TO JULY
26, 1993. All comments which are to be considered toward this
discussion must take place on the news.groups newsgroup. For that
reason, this RFD contains the header line "Followup-To: news.groups"
so that replies will only go there.

This discussion period is not a voting period. If the discussion
period shows that there is sufficient support, the process will
continue on to a 21-31-day voting phase, which will be described in a
Call for Votes (CFV) article.

Modifications may be made to the proposal during the current
discussion phase. Once a CFV is posted, the proposal at that time may
only be approved or rejected. No modifications will be made during the
vote.

Comments and discussion posted to rec.radio.shortwave and
alt.radio.scanner cannot be considered official. However, users of the
SWL-L, which are linked to these newsgroups, cannot access
news.groups. So, discussion of how to handle the mail lists may take
place there on an unofficial basis. This unofficial procedure is being
acknowledged in the RFD because no alternative exists for the mail
list users. Users must remember 1) the process does not require any
action on articles posted outside news.groups and 2) final authority
for the mail lists lies with their administrators.


SCOPE OF THE DISCUSSION
-----------------------

The scope of this RFD is the proposed newsgroup rec.radio.scanner.
Other newsgroups (even others under rec.radio) are *NOT* a subject of
this RFD. The CFV following this RFD, if a CFV is issued, will not
propose any other changes.


THANKS
------

I wish to thank following net personnel participating the discussion
and creation of this RFD.

beyonet!bob@vu-vlsi.vill.edu (Bob Kupiec)
chris@tali.hsc.colorado.edu (Chris Yoder)
craigb@sdd.hp.com (Craig Bosworth)
emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca (Robert Smits)
etxtsg@solsta.ericsson.se (Thomas Grennefors  TX/DKF)
fargher@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Fargher)
gkd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Gregory K Doerschler)
hgpeach@ms.uky.edu (Harold Peach)
jeg7e@livia.acs.Virginia.EDU (Jon Gefaell)
moore@tmu1.mcrest.edu (Don Moore)
plaws@uafhp.uark.edu (Peter Laws)
pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
weasel@acca.nmsu.edu (Politically impolite!)
wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin)

Yours,

Risto Kotalampi
rko@cs.tut.fi

-----------------------------------REMINDER-----------------------------------
   NO VOTES ARE BEING ACCEPTED AT THIS TIME - THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION ONLY
    POST ALL REPLIES IN NEWS.GROUPS WHERE THEY CAN BE OFFICIALLY COUNTED
-- 
# Risto Kotalampi, rko@cs.tut.fi     #   
# Tampere University of Technology   #  
# Signal Processing Laboratory       #

From rdippold@qualcomm.com Tue Jul 27 14:48:25 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CFV: rec.radio.scanner
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Date: 27 Jul 1993 10:32:52 -0400
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3884 news.groups:77621 rec.radio.shortwave:25858 alt.radio.scanner:7855 rec.radio.info:1896 rec.radio.amateur.misc:44470

			    CALL FOR VOTES

Unmoderated group rec.radio.scanner.

Newsgroups line:   "Utility" broadcasting traffic above 30 MHz

Votes must be recieved by Tuesday, Aug 24, 1993 11:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions, contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group, contact Risto Kotalampi (rko@cs.tut.fi).


CHARTER
 
rec.radio.scanner is a newsgroup for discussion about "utility"
traffic above 30 MHz. FM & TV-broadcasting, shortwave, amateur radio
and broadcast satellite-related material doesn't belong to
rec.radio.scanner because they have their own newsgroups.  This
newsgroup replaces alt.radio.scanner.  In addition, the
rec.radio.scanner will be gatewayed to a mailing list which will be
created as soon as possible after newsgroup creation, as there are
many who do not have access to USENET news.


--------------------- Standard Voting Info ----------------------------
You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      voting@qualcomm.com
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on rec.radio.scanner
or
      I vote NO on rec.radio.scanner

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement
involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a
single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".
There will be two additional calls for votes including mass acks.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-- 
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -- Piet Hein

From rdippold@qualcomm.com Wed Aug  4 09:37:48 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.radio.scanner
Followup-To: poster
Date: 3 Aug 1993 17:07:43 -0400
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Message-ID: <rec.radio.scanner-CFV2@uunet.uu.net>
References: <rec.radio.scanner-CFV1@uunet.uu.net>
Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias)
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3909 news.groups:78066 rec.radio.shortwave:26065 alt.radio.scanner:8033 rec.radio.info:1947 rec.radio.amateur.misc:44980

		      CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 3)

Unmoderated group rec.radio.scanner.

Newsgroups line:   "Utility" broadcasting traffic above 30 MHz

Votes must be recieved by Tuesday, Aug 24, 1993 11:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions, contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group, contact Risto Kotalampi (rko@cs.tut.fi).


CHARTER
 
rec.radio.scanner is a newsgroup for discussion about "utility"
traffic above 30 MHz. FM & TV-broadcasting, shortwave, amateur radio
and broadcast satellite-related material doesn't belong to
rec.radio.scanner because they have their own newsgroups.  This
newsgroup replaces alt.radio.scanner.  In addition, the
rec.radio.scanner will be gatewayed to a mailing list which will be
created as soon as possible after newsgroup creation, as there are
many who do not have access to USENET news.


--------------------- Standard Voting Info ----------------------------
You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      voting@qualcomm.com
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on rec.radio.scanner
or
      I vote NO on rec.radio.scanner

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement
involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a
single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".
There will be two additional calls for votes including mass acks.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.
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rec.radio.scanner vote Mass Ack as of 08/02/93
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70035.140@CompuServe.COM                                     F. Barry Mulligan
ad460@freenet.carleton.ca                                        David Stremes
ad825@freenet.carleton.ca                             Jean-Sebastien Theriault
ADICKEY@muvms6.wvnet.edu                                          Aaron Dickey
albert@hpsscrog.sc.hp.com                                        Albert Alcorn
alfa@werple.apana.org.au                                          Glenn Durden
allan@sunk.hc.ti.com                                          Allan Poindexter
ashing@halcyon.com                                                    Al Shing
atla0001@student.tc.umn.edu                                   Howard C Atlas-1
aultj@rpi.edu                                                                 
balr!vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@clout.chi.il.us                                      
beast@netcom.com                                                  J. Kintscher
ben@nj8j.atl.ga.us                                                            
berry@kermit.csd.scarolina.edu                                    Berry Mobley
BHARPER@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU                                        Bruce B. Harper
bill@anubis.network.com                                          Bill O'Hanlon
bill@tv.tv.tek.com                                         William K. McFadden
bill@wicat.COM                                                           Bill!
billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com                                            bill nelson
bj@herbison.com                                                  B.J. Herbison
BOB WEEKS/COMPUTING SERVICES/CONCORDIA/514-848-7677                           
bobw@col.hp.com                                                      Bob Witte
bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov                                                Tom Bodoh
bongo!skyld.tele.com!jangus@netcom.com                        Jeffrey D. Angus
brett@micromed.com                                                brett miller
brett@surfpix.Princeton.EDU                                     Brett Borowski
bruce@crl.com                                                   Bruce Anderson
bruce@pixar.com                                                   Bruce Perens
bryan.mohr@spacebbs.com                                             Bryan Mohr
btg!fe2o3!rusty@uunet.UU.NET                                     Rusty Haddock
BURTON@ucs.indiana.edu                                          Mr. Automotive
cameronb@cc.snow.edu                                            Cameron Beatty
ccopreb@oit.gatech.edu                                           Earl Barfield
cerys@BBN.COM                                                     Daniel Cerys
cet1@cec2.wustl.edu                                                Chuck Turco
chow@TC.Cornell.EDU                                           Christopher Chow
chris@tali.hsc.colorado.edu                            Chris "root@tali" Yoder
coulson@rwcvax.mlo.dec.com               Roger Coulson - SASE/STS DTN 223-6158
cpollard@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com                                      Chris Pollard
craigb@sdd.hp.com                                               Craig Bosworth
craigs@mmrsrv.dseg.ti.com                                          Craig Young
cranston@Cadence.COM                                         W. Scott Cranston
CSCON0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu                                     Brad Steinman
dadams@cherry.cray.com                                             David Adams
dana@devnet.la.locus.com                                         Dana H. Myers
daniels@xstor.com                                           Daniel "Fun" Segel
datwyler@moons.sim.es.com                                        Doug Datwyler
dave%frackit.UUCP                                               Dave Ratcliffe
dave@eram.esi.com.au                                             Dave Horsfall
dbm@cats.njit.edu                                      Dean McDermott - WB2CMN
dbraun@iil.intel.com                                                Doug Braun
dd711@cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                    Charles W. Reti
dem@meaddata.com                                                   David Myers
dld@wsimac.MV.COM                                                 Dave Diamond
dleon@seas.smu.edu                                                  David Leon
dmturne@ptsfa.PacBell.COM                                          Dave Turner
DNE@data.hsc.colorado.edu                                           Dave Ebert
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz                                       Kennelmeister
donnelly@gandalf.rutgers.edu                                    Jerry Donnelly
doursler@lamar.ColoState.EDU                                      Dale Oursler
DPALIK@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU                                                       
dsun@njsvdnjtrn.er.usgs.GOV                                      Dennis K. Sun
dz@VOA.GOV                                                         Dick Zwirko
e81gl@efd.lth.se                                                   Goeran Lowe
eagle@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au                                    Steven Aquilina
ed@kronos.com                                                         Ed Baker
eharold@sunspot.noao.edu                                       Elliotte Harold
ernst@ic.berkeley.edu                                                         
ertsu@cs.tut.fi                                                  Kimmo Puranen
etxtsg@solsta.ericsson.se                            Thomas Grennefors  TX/DKF
evan@hpwrc03.mayfield.hp.com                                       Evan Linick
femenia@power.ci.uv.es                                 Jose M. Femenia Herrero
ferguson@gidday.enet.dec.com    James E. Ferguson CSC Sydney, Australia.  29-J
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu                                        Hardcore Alaskan
gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                      ANDY GARDNER
garry@upl.com                                                      Garry OLSON
gary%ke4zv.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu                                  Gary Coffman
Gary.Cook@Corp.Sun.COM                       Gary Cook - ICON IBB Business Mgr
gedwards@ncratl.atlantaga.NCR.COM                                             
gerde@ecn.purdue.edu                                             Carlyle Gerde
gerde@ecn.purdue.edu                                             Carlyle Gerde
gkd@WPI.EDU                                               Gregory K Doerschler
glitwin@craysea.cray.com                                           Gary Litwin
goo@cwis.unomaha.edu                                                Kent Radek
gordon@ll.mit.edu                                              Gordon Matheson
gr003@unocss.unomaha.edu                                                      
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                Brennan Tennesen Price
hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu                               Robert A. Hayden
holger@vmars.vmars.tuwien.ac.at                                  Holger Reusch
iidan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                                         Daniel Rogers
ikluft@uts.amdahl.com                                                Ian Kluft
IMER400@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU                                       MARTHA E. RAPP
ISHAM@ecs.umass.edu                                                           
Jack.Keys@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM                                          Jack Keys
jack@cbnewsh.att.com                                                          
jbroth62@ursa.Calvin.EDU                                        James Brothers
jdprice@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu                                    Slider
jdwhite@iastate.edu                                                           
jeffg@loki.esd.sgi.com                                          Jeff C. Glover
jeh@cmkrnl.com                             Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems
jerry@MicroUnity.com                                           Jerry Kreuscher
Jesse_Michaels@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com                                       
jgk@versant.com                                                      Joe Keane
jherman@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu                                                
jim@specialix.com                                                   Jim Maurer
jime@individual.com                                             Jim Efstratiou
jjc@world.std.com                                               James J Conrad
jjmhome!pig!die@transfer.stratus.com                                Dave Emery
jkimbro@hercii.lasc.lockheed.com                                 Jon Kimbrough
jko@phoenix.oulu.fi                                               Jaakko Kokko
jlaird@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us                                      John Laird
jlburc1@pbhya.PacBell.COM                                        John L. Burch
joe@mvubr.att.com                                                             
John.Harris@progress.com                                           John Harris
johnf@scd.hp.com                                                  John Flowers
jph@fuwutai.att.com                                                           
jrlytle@heartland.bradley.edu                                      James Lytle
jsgreene@ll.mit.edu                                             John S. Greene
jsm@n4vu.Atl.GA.US                                      John Miller - SysAdmin
julian@bongo.tele.com                                          Julian Macassey
junck@okra.fnal.gov                                                Kevin Junck
justin@psg.com                                                   Justin Norman
jwb@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                            
jwl@conceps.att.com                                                           
kai@cirrus.som.cwru.edu                                            Kai Getrost
kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp                                          Kenji Rikitake
kim@cscsparc.larc.nasa.gov                                      Kim Cunningham
lhdsy1!moray.chvpkh.chevron.com!hwcco@uunet.UU.NET                  Bill Corea
linnig@m2000.dseg.ti.com                                           Mike Linnig
LYLE@utkvx.utk.edu                                             Bradley S. Lyle
maas@agps.lanl.gov                                                Lynn D. Maas
mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org                                           Mark G. Salyzyn
martyu@twg.com                                                  Marty Udisches
matteson@netcom.com                                           Richard Matteson
mball@key.amdahl.com                                                 Mark Ball
mcneill@oliver.enet.dec.com               KEVIN DTN-285-2555 SALEM EIS MFG MTL
mer@zurich.ibm.com                     Moshe E. Rappoport   tel +41 1 7248 424
mgfrank@erebus.com                                               Marc G. Frank
mhr@internet.sbi.com                                         Michael Ringbauer
michaeld@uclink.berkeley.edu                          (Mikey Likes It) S. Dahl
mikew@hpsadpe.sad.hp.com                                          Mike Weihman
mikey@slic.cts.com                                                Mike Shirley
mjr@netcom.com                                                Matthew Rapaport
moore@spk.hp.com                                                 Bill H. Moore
moore@SSD.intel.com                                                Wayne Moore
mswalsh@ocf.Berkeley.EDU                                            Mark Walsh
mxd@genrad.com                                                   Mark Delsesto
nagurney%uhavax.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu                                      
neal@meglos.mdcorp.ksc.nasa.gov                                    Stuart Neal
nick@bean.apana.org.au                                              Nick Gibbs
nickless@mcs.anl.gov                                             Bill Nickless
nigel@cotswold.demon.co.uk                                         Nigel Roles
O1EVERT@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU                                            Tom Evert
optimg!rgreen@uunet.UU.NET                                         Randy Green
OTTO@vaxb.acs.unt.edu                                                  M. Otto
PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU                                   Rich Parmalee
parnass@ih4gp.att.com                                                         
patrik@cup.portal.com                                                         
paul@hydra.urbana.mcd.mot.com                                                 
paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu                                       Paul Flaherty
payne@guinness.unomaha.edu                                          Matt Payne
pclark@lynx.dac.neu.edu                                            Peter Clark
pdennis@vnet.IBM.COM                                                          
PER_CUNNING@ohio.gov                                                          
pete@rtsg.ee.lbl.gov                                                          
Peter.Mollee@ALG.VV.WAU.NL                                        Peter Mollee
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
pirey%sunoco@relay.nswc.navy.mil                        Phil Irey 703.663.1582
plaws@uafhp.uark.edu                                                Peter Laws
plocke@irvine.com                                                  Perry Locke
pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu                                                       
pmcdonou@Jade.Tufts.EDU                                                       
popyackl@erplab.erp.rl.af.mil                           Leonard J Popyack, Jr.
potts@lds.loral.com                                           [u]Phillip Potts
ppayne@henson.cc.wwu.edu                                            Phil Payne
pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu                                 Paul W Schleck KD3FU
psw@maestro.mitre.org                                              Phil Wherry
qbarnes@urbana.mcd.mot.com                                      Quentin Barnes
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU                                          Evelyn Duncan
RABRAMS@antioc.antioch.edu                                                    
ralph@mtunp.att.com                                                           
rbm@research.att.com                                                Rob Murray
rdale@nyx.cs.du.edu                                              Robert P Dale
rhoenes@astro.ocis.temple.edu                                   Richard Hoenes
rich@midas.STD.Teradyne.COM                                          Marc Rich
Richard.D.Nimtz.1@nd.edu                                            Rick Nimtz
rick.christian@nitelog.com                                      Rick Christian
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                                 Richard H. Miller
RIGEORGE@vaxsar.vassar.edu                                         Rick George
riyadth@hpbs1904.boi.hp.com                                  Riyadth Al-Kazily
rjgrocho@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com                                bob grochowski
rko@cs.tut.fi                                                  Risto Kotalampi
Robert.Allen@Eng.Sun.COM                                          Robert Allen
root@cidux11.rtsg.mot.com                                  CIG Calibration Lab
ross@novax.llnl.gov                                                  Gary Ross
RPH0470@tntech.edu                                              Richard Hosker
rsmartin@billerica.applicon.slb.com                                Dick Martin
s.newkirk@genie.geis.com                                                      
sasbmt@unx.sas.com                                               Bruce Tindall
sethkc@well.sf.ca.us                                            Seth D. Hollub
sfarmer@amoco.com                                             Steven L. Farmer
shaga61@ursa.Calvin.EDU                                             Scott Haga
Skeeter.Abell-Smith@usask.ca                               Skeeter Abell-Smith
skeffing@maize.rtsg.mot.com                                John F. Skeffington
ski+@cmu.edu                                                  C. Mark DelSesto
slush@VOA.GOV                                                    Joe Gallagher
smb@research.att.com                                                          
spm2d@topaz.cs.virginia.edu                                                   
steve@celeborn.speedway.net                                        Steve Slade
steve@hicomb.hi.com                                                 Steve Byan
stevet@research.canon.oz.au                                      Stephen Tyler
stibler@watson.ibm.com                                         Stephen Stibler
strat@intercon.com                                                Bob Stratton
strick@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                                     Vance Strickland
travis@QAL.Berkeley.Edu                        Mike Travis U.S. Forest Service
ummarkma@CC.UManitoba.CA                                                      
vogon1!wa3wbu!frackit!ka3uzr!daveh@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu            Dave Hultberg
vyankey@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                        
wa2ise@netcom.com                                                 Robert Casey
weasel@acca.nmsu.edu                                      weasel@acca.nmsu.edu
wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL                                        Will Martin
wplee@joule.elee.calpoly.edu                                       Winston Lee
wrigley@u.washington.edu                                             Bob Ennes
yarbroug@gdstech.grumman.com                                   Danny Yarbrough
zephyr@inuxs.att.com                                                          
-- 
It's good to know that if I behave strangely enough, society will take full
responsibility for me.

From rdippold@qualcomm.com Wed Aug 25 16:41:14 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RESULT: rec.radio.scanner passes 298:24
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 25 Aug 1993 16:34:13 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 360
Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <25gic5INN1a2@rodan.UU.NET>
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3981 news.groups:80004 rec.radio.shortwave:26628 alt.radio.scanner:8490 rec.radio.info:2189 rec.radio.amateur.misc:45955

Unmoderated group rec.radio.scanner.

rec.radio.scanner	"Utility" broadcasting traffic above 30 MHz.

rec.radio.scanner vote results - 322 votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 298   24 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : rec.radio.scanner



This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions, contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group, contact Risto Kotalampi (rko@cs.tut.fi).


CHARTER
 
rec.radio.scanner is a newsgroup for discussion about "utility"
traffic above 30 MHz. FM & TV-broadcasting, shortwave, amateur radio
and broadcast satellite-related material doesn't belong to
rec.radio.scanner because they have their own newsgroups.  This
newsgroup replaces alt.radio.scanner.  In addition, the
rec.radio.scanner will be gatewayed to a mailing list which will be
created as soon as possible after newsgroup creation, as there are
many who do not have access to USENET news.

rec.radio.scanner vote Final Vote Ack

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086236@adpdp2.lanl.gov                                                        
70035.140@CompuServe.COM                                     F. Barry Mulligan
Aart=Olsen%NET%CVM@vetmed.cvm.uiuc.edu                                        
acourt@ncc.uky.edu                                                            
ad460@freenet.carleton.ca                                        David Stremes
ad825@freenet.carleton.ca                             Jean-Sebastien Theriault
ADICKEY@muvms6.wvnet.edu                                          Aaron Dickey
albert@hpsscrog.sc.hp.com                                        Albert Alcorn
alfa@essun1.murdoch.edu.au                                       Krzystof Cena
alfa@werple.apana.org.au                                          Glenn Durden
allan@sunk.hc.ti.com                                          Allan Poindexter
andy@vistachrome.com                                        Andrew Finkenstadt
apr@ua.pt                                                       A. Paulo Rocha
armille@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                       A. Ray Miller
ashing@halcyon.com                                                    Al Shing
atla0001@student.tc.umn.edu                                   Howard C Atlas-1
aultj@rpi.edu                                                                 
baer@hplwave.hpl.hp.com                                              Rick Baer
bande@lut.fi                                                     Panu Rissanen
ben@nj8j.atl.ga.us                                                            
berry@kermit.csd.scarolina.edu                                    Berry Mobley
beyonet!bob@vu-vlsi.vill.edu                                        Bob Kupiec
BHARPER@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU                                        Bruce B. Harper
bill@anubis.network.com                                          Bill O'Hanlon
bill@tv.tv.tek.com                                         William K. McFadden
bill@wicat.COM                                                           Bill!
bj@herbison.com                                                  B.J. Herbison
blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu                                             Bill Blum
BOB WEEKS/COMPUTING SERVICES/CONCORDIA/514-848-7677                           
bobc@stratus.swdc.stratus.com                                       Bob Christ
bobw@col.hp.com                                                      Bob Witte
bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov                                                Tom Bodoh
brett@micromed.com                                                brett miller
brett@surfpix.Princeton.EDU                                     Brett Borowski
brian.bresnan@ase.com                                            Brian Bresnan
bruce@crl.com                                                   Bruce Anderson
bruce@pixar.com                                                   Bruce Perens
bryan.mohr@spacebbs.com                                             Bryan Mohr
btg!fe2o3!rusty@uunet.UU.NET                                     Rusty Haddock
BURTON@ucs.indiana.edu                                          Mr. Automotive
bwilkins@holonet.net                                         Bob Wilkins n6fri
c22kw@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                                    Keith Wolford
cameronb@cc.snow.edu                                            Cameron Beatty
carmi@ipld01.hac.com                                              Aviram Carmi
ccopreb@oit.gatech.edu                                           Earl Barfield
cerys@BBN.COM                                                     Daniel Cerys
cet1@cec2.wustl.edu                                                Chuck Turco
chow@TC.Cornell.EDU                                           Christopher Chow
chris@tali.hsc.colorado.edu                            Chris "root@tali" Yoder
cinnamon.com!bandy@cinnamon.com                                Proud Pop To Be
CKELTS@media.utah.edu                                              Corey Kelts
CLARK%ETD.MOE.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com                            ETD::MOE::CLARK
clifto%indep1.UUCP                                                 Cliff Sharp
cmarcant@netcom.com                                         Christophe Marcant
cote                                                              MARK D. COTE
cotton@thumper.bellcore.com                                       Chase Cotton
coulson@rwcvax.mlo.dec.com               Roger Coulson - SASE/STS DTN 223-6158
cpollard@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com                                      Chris Pollard
craigb@sdd.hp.com                                               Craig Bosworth
craigs@mmrsrv.dseg.ti.com                                          Craig Young
cranston@Cadence.COM                                         W. Scott Cranston
crisp@netcom.com                                                 Richard Crisp
CSCON0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu                                     Brad Steinman
dadams@cherry.cray.com                                             David Adams
dana@devnet.la.locus.com                                         Dana H. Myers
daniels@xstor.com                                           Daniel "Fun" Segel
datwyler@moons.sim.es.com                                        Doug Datwyler
dave%frackit.UUCP                                               Dave Ratcliffe
dave@eram.esi.com.au                                             Dave Horsfall
dave@rsd.dl.nec.com	                                           Dave Rogers
davep@llnl.gov                                                     Dave Parker
dbm@cats.njit.edu                                      Dean McDermott - WB2CMN
dbraun@iil.intel.com                                                Doug Braun
dd711@cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                    Charles W. Reti
dem@meaddata.com                                                   David Myers
dgarvin%dtc@relay.nswc.navy.mil                                    Dave Garvin
dkm@cs.itc.hp.com                                               Dave K. Martin
dld@wsimac.MV.COM                                                 Dave Diamond
dleon@seas.smu.edu                                                  David Leon
dmturne@ptsfa.PacBell.COM                                          Dave Turner
DNE@data.hsc.colorado.edu                                           Dave Ebert
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz                                       Kennelmeister
donnelly@gandalf.rutgers.edu                                    Jerry Donnelly
doursler@lamar.ColoState.EDU                                      Dale Oursler
DPALIK@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU                                                       
drw@esl.com                                                        Dave Waters
dsun@njsvdnjtrn.er.usgs.GOV                                      Dennis K. Sun
dz@VOA.GOV                                                         Dick Zwirko
e81gl@efd.lth.se                                                   Goeran Lowe
eagle@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au                                    Steven Aquilina
ed@kronos.com                                                         Ed Baker
eharold@sunspot.noao.edu                                       Elliotte Harold
emcguire@intellection.com                                           Ed McGuire
ernst@ic.berkeley.edu                                                         
ertsu@cs.tut.fi                                                  Kimmo Puranen
etxsral@hal.ericsson.se                                           Lars Nilsson
etxtsg@solsta.ericsson.se                            Thomas Grennefors  TX/DKF
evansg@riot.enet.dec.com                                      12-Aug-1993 1313
femenia@power.ci.uv.es                                 Jose M. Femenia Herrero
ferguson@gidday.enet.dec.com    James E. Ferguson CSC Sydney, Australia.  29-J
ferrell@freenet.scri.fsu.edu                                      Doug Ferrell
fkf1@cornell.edu                                               F. Kevin Feeney
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu                                        Hardcore Alaskan
gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                      ANDY GARDNER
garry@upl.com                                                      Garry OLSON
gary%ke4zv.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu                                  Gary Coffman
Gary.Cook@Corp.Sun.COM                       Gary Cook - ICON IBB Business Mgr
garym@flash.alsys.com                                      Gary Morris @ignite
gedwards@ncratl.atlantaga.NCR.COM                                             
gerde@ecn.purdue.edu                                             Carlyle Gerde
gkd@WPI.EDU                                               Gregory K Doerschler
glitwin@craysea.cray.com                                           Gary Litwin
gordon@ll.mit.edu                                              Gordon Matheson
gr003@unocss.unomaha.edu                                                      
gspear+@CMU.EDU                                                 Geoffrey Spear
gstrey69@ursa.Calvin.EDU                                           Glory Strey
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                Brennan Tennesen Price
hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu                               Robert A. Hayden
holger@vmars.vmars.tuwien.ac.at                                  Holger Reusch
Iago@Dartmouth.EDU                                                        Iago
iidan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                                         Daniel Rogers
ikluft@uts.amdahl.com                                                Ian Kluft
IMER400@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU                                       MARTHA E. RAPP
ISHAM@ecs.umass.edu                                                           
jac@cis.ohio-state.edu                                            Jim Clausing
Jack.Keys@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM                                          Jack Keys
jack@cbnewsh.att.com                                                          
jackson@e5sf.hweng.syr.ge.com                                          jackson
jbroth62@ursa.Calvin.EDU                                        James Brothers
JCKSNSTE@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU                                  Steven V. Jackson
jdwhite@iastate.edu                                                           
jeffg@loki.esd.sgi.com                                          Jeff C. Glover
jeh@cmkrnl.com                             Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems
jerry@MicroUnity.com                                           Jerry Kreuscher
Jesse_Michaels@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com                                       
jet@nas.nasa.gov                                              J. Eric Townsend
jfbauer@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                           Jim Bauer
jgk@versant.com                                                      Joe Keane
jherman@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu                                                
jim@draco.bison.mb.ca                                             Jim Jaworski
jim@specialix.com                                                   Jim Maurer
jime@individual.com                                             Jim Efstratiou
jjc@world.std.com                                               James J Conrad
jjmhome!pig!die@transfer.stratus.com                                Dave Emery
jkearman@arrl.org                                                  Jim Kearman
jkimbro@hercii.lasc.lockheed.com                                 Jon Kimbrough
jko@phoenix.oulu.fi                                               Jaakko Kokko
jlaird@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us                                      John Laird
jlawson@moose.uvm.edu                                               Jim Lawson
jlburc1@pbhya.PacBell.COM                                        John L. Burch
jmclachl@lynx.dac.neu.edu                                       John McLachlan
joe@mvubr.att.com                                                             
John.Harris@progress.com                                           John Harris
johnf@scd.hp.com                                                  John Flowers
John_Landwehr@NeXT.COM                                           John Landwehr
Jonathan.Bradshaw@nd.edu                                     Jonathan Bradshaw
jph@fuwutai.att.com                                                           
jrlytle@heartland.bradley.edu                                      James Lytle
jsgreene@ll.mit.edu                                             John S. Greene
jsm@n4vu.Atl.GA.US                                      John Miller - SysAdmin
justin@psg.com                                                   Justin Norman
jwl@conceps.att.com                                                           
kai@cirrus.som.cwru.edu                                            Kai Getrost
kaiyan@lucifer.ms.ael.fujitsu.co.jp                                     Kaiyan
karayan@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com                         karayannopoulos,george
kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp                                          Kenji Rikitake
kenw@col.hp.com                                                      Ken Wyatt
kevin@Hawaii.Edu                                               Kevin Mayeshiro
kim@cscsparc.larc.nasa.gov                                      Kim Cunningham
kirk@hpoclpa.sj.hp.com                                          Kirk Lindstrom
larry@clinet.fi                                                     Lasse Hero
lhdsy1!moray.chvpkh.chevron.com!hwcco@uunet.UU.NET                  Bill Corea
linley@netcom.com                                    Bruce James Robert Linley
linnig@m2000.dseg.ti.com                                           Mike Linnig
LOCKHART@uci.edu                                              Jack C. LOCKHART
LYLE@utkvx.utk.edu                                             Bradley S. Lyle
maas@agps.lanl.gov                                                Lynn D. Maas
mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org                                           Mark G. Salyzyn
martyu@twg.com                                                  Marty Udisches
matteson@netcom.com                                           Richard Matteson
mball@key.amdahl.com                                                 Mark Ball
mcneill@oliver.enet.dec.com               KEVIN DTN-285-2555 SALEM EIS MFG MTL
mebly@eng.umd.edu                                               Mark E. Bailey
mer@zurich.ibm.com                     Moshe E. Rappoport   tel +41 1 7248 424
mgfrank@erebus.com                                               Marc G. Frank
mhr@internet.sbi.com                                         Michael Ringbauer
michaeld@uclink.berkeley.edu                          (Mikey Likes It) S. Dahl
mikew@hpsadpe.sad.hp.com                                          Mike Weihman
mikey@slic.cts.com                                                Mike Shirley
mjr@netcom.com                                                Matthew Rapaport
moore@spk.hp.com                                                 Bill H. Moore
moore@SSD.intel.com                                                Wayne Moore
mpage@netcom.com                                             Thomas J. Kravitz
mraley.escp10@xerox.com".ESCP10@xerox.com                                     
mswalsh@ocf.Berkeley.EDU                                            Mark Walsh
mxd@genrad.com                                                   Mark Delsesto
nagurney%uhavax.dnet@ipgate.hartford.edu                                      
ndallen@io.org                                                     Nigel Allen
neal@meglos.mdcorp.ksc.nasa.gov                                    Stuart Neal
nick@bean.apana.org.au                                              Nick Gibbs
nigel@cotswold.demon.co.uk                                         Nigel Roles
O1EVERT@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU                                            Tom Evert
ocid@clinet.fi                                                   Petri Oksanen
optimg!rgreen@uunet.UU.NET                                         Randy Green
orman@dhostwo.convex.com                                       Paul Earl Orman
p00489@psilink.com                                             Terry M. Stader
PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU                                   Rich Parmalee
parnass@ih4gp.att.com                                                         
paul@hydra.urbana.mcd.mot.com                                                 
paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu                                       Paul Flaherty
payne@guinness.unomaha.edu                                          Matt Payne
pcr@vnet.IBM.COM                                                              
pdennis@vnet.IBM.COM                                                          
Pekka.Savolainen@Salcom.Fi                    Pekka Savolainen, Salcom Finland
PER_CUNNING@ohio.gov                                                          
pete@rtsg.ee.lbl.gov                                                          
Peter.Mollee@ALG.VV.WAU.NL                                        Peter Mollee
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
pirey%sunoco@relay.nswc.navy.mil                        Phil Irey 703.663.1582
plaws@uafhp.uark.edu                                                Peter Laws
plocke@irvine.com                                                  Perry Locke
pmarsh@metro.mccneb.edu                                                       
pmcdonou@Jade.Tufts.EDU                                                       
popyackl@erplab.erp.rl.af.mil                           Leonard J Popyack, Jr.
potts@lds.loral.com                                           [u]Phillip Potts
ppayne@henson.cc.wwu.edu                                            Phil Payne
PRINGLE@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU              BILL PRINGLE - COMPUTER USER SERVICES
pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu                                 Paul W Schleck KD3FU
psw@maestro.mitre.org                                              Phil Wherry
qbarnes@urbana.mcd.mot.com                                      Quentin Barnes
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU                                          Evelyn Duncan
RABRAMS@antioc.antioch.edu                                                    
ralph@mtunp.att.com                                                           
ralphw@wes.mot.com                                               Ralph Warchol
RANTINOJ@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi                                                 
ray.woodward@almac.co.uk                                          Ray Woodward
rbm@research.att.com                                                Rob Murray
rcw@csn.org                                                Robert C. White Jr.
rdale@nyx.cs.du.edu                                              Robert P Dale
rhoenes@astro.ocis.temple.edu                                   Richard Hoenes
rich@midas.STD.Teradyne.COM                                          Marc Rich
Richard.D.Nimtz.1@nd.edu                                            Rick Nimtz
RIGEORGE@vaxsar.vassar.edu                                         Rick George
Riku.Kalinen@juha.fi                                              Riku Kalinen
riyadth@hpbs1904.boi.hp.com                                  Riyadth Al-Kazily
rjgrocho@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com                                bob grochowski
rko@cs.tut.fi                                                  Risto Kotalampi
rob@vitsemi.com                                                     Rob Eccles
Robert.Allen@Eng.Sun.COM                                          Robert Allen
robert@UnbSJ.CA                                                    Robert Ford
roddie@io.org                                                     Roddie Hasan
root@cidux11.rtsg.mot.com                                  CIG Calibration Lab
ross@novax.llnl.gov                                                  Gary Ross
RPH0470@tntech.edu                                              Richard Hosker
rsmartin@billerica.applicon.slb.com                                Dick Martin
s.newkirk@genie.geis.com                                                      
sasbmt@unx.sas.com                                               Bruce Tindall
sethkc@well.sf.ca.us                                            Seth D. Hollub
sfarmer@amoco.com                                             Steven L. Farmer
shaga61@ursa.Calvin.EDU                                             Scott Haga
Skeeter.Abell-Smith@usask.ca                               Skeeter Abell-Smith
skeffing@maize.rtsg.mot.com                                John F. Skeffington
ski+@cmu.edu                                                  C. Mark DelSesto
slush@VOA.GOV                                                    Joe Gallagher
smb@research.att.com                                                          
spm2d@topaz.cs.virginia.edu                                                   
srogers@sdf.LoneStar.ORG                                          Scott Rogers
sscalsk@screamer.nswc.navy.mil                                    Stan Scalsky
stegil@stegil.Auto-trol.COM                                      Steve Gilbert
steve@celeborn.speedway.net                                        Steve Slade
steve@hicomb.hi.com                                                 Steve Byan
steve@Wattres.SJ.CA.US                                    Steve Watt -- KD6GGD
stevet@research.canon.oz.au                                      Stephen Tyler
stibler@watson.ibm.com                                         Stephen Stibler
strat@intercon.com                                                Bob Stratton
strick@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                                     Vance Strickland
Stuart.A.Barkley@cdc.com                                                      
tighe@hydra.convex.com                                              Mike Tighe
tlthom1@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                      Timothy Thomas
tosormun@tre.tele.nokia.fi                                       Toni Sormunen
travis@QAL.Berkeley.Edu                        Mike Travis U.S. Forest Service
troeder@wv.MENTORG.COM                                              Tom Roeder
trop@hls.com                                                   Troy T. Pummill
ummarkma@CC.UManitoba.CA                                                      
vail@tegra.com                                                  Johnathan Vail
vogon1!wa3wbu!frackit!ka3uzr!daveh@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu            Dave Hultberg
vyankey@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                        
wa2ise@netcom.com                                                 Robert Casey
warren@bluesky.com                                                Warren Leach
weasel@acca.nmsu.edu                                      weasel@acca.nmsu.edu
willdave@access.digex.net                                     William Davenant
wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL                                        Will Martin
wplee@joule.elee.calpoly.edu                                       Winston Lee
wrigley@u.washington.edu                                             Bob Ennes
yanasak@vnet.IBM.COM                                                          
yarbroug@gdstech.grumman.com                                   Danny Yarbrough
zephyr@inuxs.att.com                                                          


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balr!vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@clout.chi.il.us                                      
beast@netcom.com                                                  J. Kintscher
billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com                                            bill nelson
bongo!skyld.tele.com!jangus@netcom.com                        Jeffrey D. Angus
cward@Think.COM                                               Christopher Ward
evan@hpwrc03.mayfield.hp.com                                       Evan Linick
goo@cwis.unomaha.edu                                                Kent Radek
jdprice@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu                                    Slider
julian@bongo.tele.com                                          Julian Macassey
junck@okra.fnal.gov                                                Kevin Junck
jwb@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                            
mjn%pseudo.UUCP                                                 Murray Nesbitt
MMAGID@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU                                                     
naren@tekig1.pen.tek.com                                            Naren Bala
nickless@mcs.anl.gov                                             Bill Nickless
OTTO@vaxb.acs.unt.edu                                                  M. Otto
patrik@cup.portal.com                                                         
pclark@lynx.dac.neu.edu                                            Peter Clark
rick.christian@nitelog.com                                      Rick Christian
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                                 Richard H. Miller
smarry@io.org                                               Smarasderagd Draco
sramming@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                       
twpierce@unix.amherst.edu                                           Tim Pierce
wilhelm@infoserv.com                                        John MacWilliamson
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