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From: [email protected] (Peter Kaminski)
Subject: RFD: misc.health.alternative
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This is a formal Request for Discussion on the creation of a new
newsgroup called "misc.health.alternative", which would be used for the
discussion of alternative health care issues.  This RFD grew out of
(and supersedes, I believe) an earlier RFD entitled "RFD Alternative
Medicine" by Gordon Banks , article <[email protected]>.

This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers may have
interest in the discussion about the new group; follow-up discussion
will take place in "news.groups".  Suggestions, comments, or problems
may also be emailed to me at .


PROPOSAL:

I propose creation of an unmoderated newsgroup called
"misc.health.alternative", a newsgroup for the discussion of health,
health care, and therapies which are alternative, complementary, or not
commonly accepted by Western scientific medicine.

A main hierarchy was chosen for best propagation; "misc" is the best
main hierarchy for a general group about health.  Note that "health"
fits in well with the other "misc" groups: "consumers", "education",
"fitness", "jobs", "kids", "legal", "taxes", etc.

Possible topics include (but are not limited to) acupuncture, ayurveda,
biofeedback, chiropractic, herbalism, holistic medicine, homeopathy,
hypnosis, macrobiotics, megavitamin therapy, naturopathy, osteopathy,
reflexology, shiatsu, and yoga.


DISCUSSION:

Alternative approaches to health care are clearly of interest to many
readers, but there is currently no group in which general non-technical
discussions would be appropriate.  Discussions do occur in "sci.med",
but are generally counter to that newsgroup's purpose, as readers there
have noted.  "sci.skeptic" is an appropriate newsgroup for scientific
investigation of alternative therapies, but not for general discussion.

Creation of "misc.health.alternative" would also create by implication
the sub-hierarchy "misc.health.*", presumably for discussions about
health and health care.  Since there are currently no newsgroups
dedicated to general non-technical discussions of health care,
creation of additional "misc.health.*" newsgroups might be
appropriate, although that discussion is beyond the scope of this RFD.


NEWSGROUP NOT MODERATED:

In the previous RFD, some posters wondered if such an alternative
health newsgroup should be moderated, since some of the material
presented may be controversial.

I believe moderation is not necessary, and that there will be enough
on-topic discussion to drown out the (probably inevitable) flames.

Flames, name-calling, and abusive behavior in general (from either
side) will be discouraged, but constructive criticisms and arguments
will be encouraged, with the caveat that "misc.health.alternative" is
to be a generally non-technical discussion group.  ("sci.skeptic" or
"sci.med" would be more appropriate for extended technical discussions,
but technical discussions would be welcome in
"misc.health.alternative", as well.)

Scientific proof or verificability of facts will *not* be required in
"misc.health.alternative", although posters should keep their
credibility in mind.  Even though verificability will not be required,
posters are urged to post only what they believe to be true, and to
post or be prepared to post citations, references, sources, etc.


SUMMARY:

"misc.health.alternative", unmoderated, would provide an appropriate
forum for general non-technical discussions of alternative approaches
to health care.

Presuming no problems arise during the RFD period, a Call for Votes
(CFV) for this newsgroup will be posted to the same newsgroups to
which this announcement was posted.  Email addresses for voting will
be included in the CFV post, and the voting period will run for 31
days.

After the voting period, if 100 more valid "YES/create" vote are
received than "NO/don't create" AND at least 2/3 of the total number
of valid votes received are in favor of creation, the newsgroup will
be created.

Thanks for your interest!
-- 
Peter Kaminski
[email protected]

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From: [email protected] (Peter Kaminski)
Subject: CFV: misc.health.alternative
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This is the official CALL FOR VOTES regarding the creation of a new
newsgroup, misc.health.alternative.

This message may be redistributed freely; please distribute it to
whomever you think may be interested, or have them request their own
copy by email from .

SUMMARY:

Name:    misc.health.alternative
Purpose: Alternative, complementary and holistic health care.
Status:  unmoderated

Voting period:  12 Nov 1992 through 12 Dec 1992
Voting address: [email protected]
Vote yes with:  vote misc.health.alternative yes
Vote no with:   vote misc.health.alternative no


VOTING INSTRUCTIONS:

The voting period is from Thursday, 12-Nov-1992 00:00 GMT through
Saturday, 12-Dec-1992 23:59 GMT.

In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send an
email message to .  If you wish, you may reply
to this article, and your reply will automatically be emailed to
.

Your email message should contain one of the following two lines,
either in the Subject or body of the message:

        vote misc.health.alternative yes
        vote misc.health.alternative no


The first line registers a vote for the creation of the newsgroup.
The second line registers a vote against the creation of the newsgroup.

Any unambiguous vote received will be counted, even if it does not
contain the suggested text.

Ambiguous votes will NOT be counted.  A vote may be ambiguous because
it does not refer to misc.health.alternative, does not contain one
and only one of "yes" or "no" (or their synonyms), or includes a
conditional such as "I vote ... if ...".

Multiple voting messages from the same person must be sent from the
same address.  If multiple votes are received from the same person,
only the last vote received is counted.  Votes posted to any newsgroup
will not be counted.

If you have any problem with voting, you can get help by sending email
to  or <[email protected]>.


CHARTER AND INTRODUCTION FOR MISC.HEALTH.ALTERNATIVE:

IMPORTANT NOTICES -- READ THESE
-------------------------------

Reading messages on misc.health.alternative cannot substitute for
seeing your doctor.  If you are ill, or concerned about a medical
problem, go to a doctor or other qualified, licensed health care
practitioner.

Usenet is NOT an appropriate medium to diagnose, prescribe for, or
treat any medical condition.  misc.health.alternative is a forum for
general discussion of alternative health care.  NOTHING POSTED TO
MISC.HEALTH.ALTERNATIVE SHOULD EVER BE CONSTRUED AS PROFESSIONAL
MEDICAL ADVICE INTENDED FOR PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS.  NO DOCTOR-PATIENT
RELATIONSHIP, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, SHALL BE CONVEYED BY MESSAGES IN
THIS NEWSGROUP.

Remember that anyone can post anything to Usenet.  Messages are NOT
checked or verified for accuracy or validity by anyone before being
automatically distributed to readers.

Before taking any action because of a message posted to Usenet, verify
the information in it with a reliable source, such as your health care
professional.

When you post to misc.health.alternative, remember that you are fully
responsible for the content of your messages.  Post responsibly.

Messages which are specifically disallowed in misc.health.alternative:
commercial or for-profit messages; announcements of professional
products or services (even if they are allowed elsewhere on Usenet);
diagnoses, prescriptions or treatments for a specific individual; and
fraudulent or illegal messages.


CHARTER
-------

misc.health.alternative is a newsgroup for general non-technical
discussion (pro *and* con) of health care and therapies which are
alternative, complementary, or not commonly accepted by Western
scientific medicine.

Appropriate topics include (but are not limited to): acupuncture,
Alexander technique, alternative cancer therapies, aromatherapy,
ayurveda, chiropractic, color therapy, healing, herbalism, holistic
dentistry, holistic medicine, homeopathy, hypnosis, iridology,
macrobiotics, meditation, megavitamin therapy, midwifery, naturopathy,
natural vision improvement (Bates method, etc.), osteopathy,
radiesthesia, reflexology, shiatsu and do-in, traditional medicine
(Arab, Chinese, Native American, etc.), and yoga.

Flames, name-calling, and abusive behavior in general (from either
side) are not welcome, but constructive criticisms and arguments are
encouraged, with the caveat that misc.health.alternative is to be a
generally non-technical consumer level discussion group.

May happiness and health be with you!
-- 
Peter Kaminski
[email protected]
[email protected]

From [email protected] Tue Dec  1 22:31:23 1992
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: misc.health.alternative
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This is the SECOND CALL FOR VOTES and mass vote acknowledgement
regarding the creation of a new newsgroup, misc.health.alternative.

At the end of this message is a list of all addresses from which votes
have been received so far (Fri, 27 Nov 1992 19:00 GMT).  To skip to
that section, search for "Vote Ack".

Email  or <[email protected]> with any
questions or problems.  Voting will continue through Sat, 12 Dec 1992.

This message may be redistributed freely; please distribute it to
whomever you think may be interested, or have them request their own
copy by email from .

SUMMARY:

Name:    misc.health.alternative
Purpose: Alternative, complementary and holistic health care.
Status:  unmoderated

Voting period:  12 Nov 1992 through 12 Dec 1992
Voting address: [email protected]
Vote yes with:  vote misc.health.alternative yes
Vote no with:   vote misc.health.alternative no


VOTING INSTRUCTIONS:

The voting period is from Thursday, 12-Nov-1992 00:00 GMT through
Saturday, 12-Dec-1992 23:59 GMT.

In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send an
email message to .  If you wish, you may reply
to this article, and your reply will automatically be emailed to
.

Your email message should contain one of the following two lines,
either in the Subject or body of the message:

        vote misc.health.alternative yes
        vote misc.health.alternative no


The first line registers a vote for the creation of the newsgroup.
The second line registers a vote against the creation of the newsgroup.

Any unambiguous vote received will be counted, even if it does not
contain the suggested text.

Ambiguous votes will NOT be counted.  A vote may be ambiguous because
it does not refer to misc.health.alternative, does not contain one
and only one of "yes" or "no" (or their synonyms), or includes a
conditional such as "I vote ... if ...".

Multiple voting messages from the same person must be sent from the
same address.  If multiple votes are received from the same person,
only the last vote received is counted.  Votes posted to any newsgroup
will not be counted.

If you have any problem with voting, you can get help by sending email
to  or <[email protected]>.


CHARTER AND INTRODUCTION FOR MISC.HEALTH.ALTERNATIVE:

IMPORTANT NOTICES -- READ THESE
-------------------------------

Reading messages on misc.health.alternative cannot substitute for
seeing your doctor.  If you are ill, or concerned about a medical
problem, go to a doctor or other qualified, licensed health care
practitioner.

Usenet is NOT an appropriate medium to diagnose, prescribe for, or
treat any medical condition.  misc.health.alternative is a forum for
general discussion of alternative health care.  NOTHING POSTED TO
MISC.HEALTH.ALTERNATIVE SHOULD EVER BE CONSTRUED AS PROFESSIONAL
MEDICAL ADVICE INTENDED FOR PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS.  NO DOCTOR-PATIENT
RELATIONSHIP, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, SHALL BE CONVEYED BY MESSAGES IN
THIS NEWSGROUP.

Remember that anyone can post anything to Usenet.  Messages are NOT
checked or verified for accuracy or validity by anyone before being
automatically distributed to readers.

Before taking any action because of a message posted to Usenet, verify
the information in it with a reliable source, such as your health care
professional.

When you post to misc.health.alternative, remember that you are fully
responsible for the content of your messages.  Post responsibly.

Messages which are specifically disallowed in misc.health.alternative:
commercial or for-profit messages; announcements of professional
products or services (even if they are allowed elsewhere on Usenet);
diagnoses, prescriptions or treatments for a specific individual; and
fraudulent or illegal messages.


CHARTER
-------

misc.health.alternative is a newsgroup for general non-technical
discussion (pro *and* con) of health care and therapies which are
alternative, complementary, or not commonly accepted by Western
scientific medicine.

Appropriate topics include (but are not limited to): acupuncture,
Alexander technique, alternative cancer therapies, aromatherapy,
ayurveda, chiropractic, color therapy, healing, herbalism, holistic
dentistry, holistic medicine, homeopathy, hypnosis, iridology,
macrobiotics, meditation, megavitamin therapy, midwifery, naturopathy,
natural vision improvement (Bates method, etc.), osteopathy,
radiesthesia, reflexology, shiatsu and do-in, traditional medicine
(Arab, Chinese, Native American, etc.), and yoga.

Flames, name-calling, and abusive behavior in general (from either
side) are not welcome, but constructive criticisms and arguments are
encouraged, with the caveat that misc.health.alternative is to be a
generally non-technical consumer level discussion group.


Vote Acknowledgement
====================

Duplicate votes were received from these addresses, all apparently due
to mailer errors.  Only the last vote received from each address will
be counted:

 Antti Kivivalli
(alizard) 
 Kathy Brunet
 (Linda Kaplan)


These are the addresses from which valid votes for or against the creation
of misc.health.alternative have been received so far (Fri, 27 Nov 1992
19:00 GMT).  They are sorted by user mailbox names.

<[email protected]> (That Guy)
<[email protected]> Norman Patch
<[email protected]> PH STERN
 (Abhay Bulsari VT)
 
 (Barry H. Rodin)
 "alan jaffray"
 Antti Kivivalli
 acapella
(alizard)  
 (Amy McNulty)
 (Andrea Frankel)
 (Andre Lacroix)
 (Ann Terese Heil)
 (Darlene Vandever)
 Arne Henrik Juul
 "astallon.US1"
 
 (SignalMan)
 (Avery Ray Colter)
 (avi zelmanov)
 (Ed Bailey)
 
 (Barry Kapke)
 "BRUCE B. LEROY"
 Barry J Burns
 (Bernard A Tilson)
 (Beth Schwindt)
 Bill Garland
 (Bill McCormick)
 (Mike E. Romano)
 Bob Williams
 (Rock Gardener)
 Kathy Brunet
 (Bernie Simon)
 "Bartley R. Troyan"
 (Martin Bublitz)
 (Bud Jordan)
 
 (Franco Bussani)
 
 Johanne Kaminski
 
 Rex Croft
 Charles Shub
 (Craig D Rice)
 "Ghosts and goblins are my friends,and Fairies dance bes
 Leonard Cho
 "Carol J. Hughes"
 
 Chris Marble
 
 
 "Ofer Inbar"
 LOU CRAGO
 (Cameron Price)
 (Chris)
 (Daan Nagtegaal)
 David Paschall-Zimbel
 "Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC"
 BRAGG
 (Delia DeCrosta)
 (Ben Delisle)
 The Integral Differential
 Dharamsi Shah
 Paul Diaguila 904/488-0911
(dick)  
 (David J Betty)
 (David Jordan)
 
 (David Barton)
 (Daniel S. Lewart)
 (Donna Laurents)
 "Sean Donahoe"
 (Doug Crompton)
 (David Huelsbeck)
 (John Draut)
 
 (David Windsor)
 (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
 (Ed Watkeys)
 (Evelyn Mitchell)
 "Eric J. Olson"
 (E. Kirby 5-3524)
 "Lee Newman (814) 865-1818"
 Greg Franklin
 
 pena arvela
 "Melony Fender"
 
 (Mike Francois)
 Paulo Frank
 "ANDREA B. SCHULMAN"
 (Gary Truax)
 
 (Gordon Banks)
 "George Paap"
 (Gregory G. Woodbury)
 (Jeff Gleixner)
 Gregg Mack
 "Graham (G.S.) Ashby"
 (Gregg Zupcsics)
 "Chauncey T Griggs-1"
 
 (Gary S. Trujillo)
 Aloke Gupta
 Hamid Homayoyni
 
 Heather Trumbower
 (Heinz Herbeck)
 
(hkaram)  (Hasnain Karampurwala)
 Richard Hoffman
 Terri Huggett
 Brenda J Huie
 "Haydn Huntley"
 Cord
 (Sum Dum Guy)
 "Douglas M. Howell"
 J Lee Jaap
 
 
(janet)  (Janet Jakstys)
 J P Blackwood
 Jeffrey CHANCE
 jean reese
 Jon Farr
 (John De Armond)
 Joe Keane
 (John Angelo Gnassi)
 (John Hawkinson)
(jil)  (Jamie Lubin)
 (Jim Kresse)
 (Jim Mitchell)
 James A. Lundon DTN 822-415 16-Nov-1992 1445
 
 Joel Sandpiper Noble
 (Johannes Beekhuizen)
 (Disk Claimer)
 Jill P Stutzman
 James Vincent Schultz
 Julie Snellgrove
 Joseph Troxel
 (John J. Werst)
 "James D. Zelenka"
 (Katie Hynes)
(karenm)  (Karen Millar)
 grukpoco
 Kayvan Sylvan
 (Kenneth East)
 (AVERY KENYTT)
 (Kerri Brewster)
 (Kevin Sven Berg)
 
 Karolen I. Paularena
 (Aniruddha Kortikar)
 (Bernd Kostka)
 (Laura Ann Guillette)
 
 
 (LEEANN WENTZELL)
 Joel B Levin
 (Kuo Yu-Shen)
(lizk)  
 (sine nomine)
 (Lynn Mueller Canaday)
 
 
 "L. M. P. McPherson"
 "Tina M. Wood"
 Mark Moraes
 (Wendy Marlett)
 (Martin Betz)
 (Malcolm Austin)
 
 Brian McCashin
(mccluerj)  (John McCluer)
 
 (Aidan McDevitt)
 (Ken McGlothlen)
 Robert McGrath
 Meg Sisson
 Melissa Queen - Comp Eng
 Michele Evard
 Marshall Gilula
 
(michael)  Michael Bryan
 Michele Lord
 Michael Quinn
 "M.L.M.Veraart"
 Tom Molnar
 (Stephen Cristol)
 
 
 (David Muir Sharnoff)
 (Naomi Diesendruck)
(ndallen)  (Nigel Allen)
 Sheldon Nicholl
 Lisa Nielsen
 
 (Robbin Huls)
 (Noelie Alito)
 (Jon Noring)
 
 "David A. Nye MD"
 Outi Maria Hallia
 (Asa Packer)
(Party)  
 Paula Burch
 (Pete Norton)
 (Pierre Gauvin)
 
 (Chris Phillips)
 (Paul E. Hoffman)
 Brad Pierce
 
 (Philippe Lebrun)
 "Daniel (D.) Poirier"
 "Ian Poulin, CCIT User Support"
 (Christopher Brian Pound)
 (Linda Kaplan)
 Joshua Randall
 (Felix Rauch)
 Karen Prestemon
 "Robert E. Schmieg"
 (Robbie Felix)
 (Dick Polits)
 "C. Richter"
 (Richard H. Miller)
 Tim Rigg
 (Rhoshel Krystyna Lenroot)
 (Robert K Nichols)
 (Rodney Peck)
 
 Ruthann Schmidt
 (Russell McFatter)
 (Ruth Blackburn)
 
 Sally Bates
 (Mark Sandrock)
 Arun Meda Sannuti
 "Susan B. Lavernge CPS"
 Scott Ballantyne
 "Matt T. Senft"
 
 (Stephanie Moskal Fysh)
 Sanjay Gajare
 (timothy shimeall)
(skadams)  
 Seth L. Blumberg
 "Stephen A. Leask"
 Marc Moorcroft
 Lawrence C Smith
 (Mikael Parknert)
 "Kate Wilson, [email protected]"
 (John Spies)
 (Dahlia van Gelder)
 
 (Stacy Purcell ~)
 Sridhar Venkataraman
 Jude
 (Steve Schlaifer)
 (Steve Rehfuss)
 (Rob Strom)
 
 "Sven M. Heinicke"
 (Jonas Andersson)
 (Tarl Neustaedter)
 Terilyn Gillespie
 (Ted Koppel)
 Tod Kemper
 Tom Limoncelli
 Tommy Williams
 (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
 Toshi Takeuchi
 
 Peter Cox
 Matthias Urlichs
 (Jeff)
 "Kathy Waddell SC/277-0911 OR (904)487-0911"
 (WA Office of Higher Education)
 (John Werner)
 
 
 (Christopher M. Conway)
 (Glen Worstell)
 Bill Baker
 (Wayne Sonnen)
 Dale Wyttenbach
 (Y. Ho(S.Kennedy))
 

Thanks for voting, and may happiness and health be with you!
-- 
Peter Kaminski
[email protected]
[email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Dec 14 20:31:21 1992
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From: [email protected] (Peter Kaminski)
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Subject: RESULT: misc.health.alternative passes 356:64
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VOTE RESULTS for misc.health.alternative:

Voting closed at 23:59 GMT 12 December 1992.  A total of 420 valid
votes were received; 356 were "yes", in favor of group creation and
64 were "no".  If there are no major corrections to the vote during
the mandatory 5 day waiting period, the newsgroup will be created.

Thanks to all who voted!


SUMMARY:

Name:    misc.health.alternative
Purpose: Alternative, complementary and holistic health care.
Status:  unmoderated

Total votes: 420
  YES votes: 356
   NO votes:  64

84.8% of the votes were in favor (66.7% required).
292 more YES votes were received than NO votes (100 required).

There will be a 5 day waiting period for any corrections to the vote.
If no serious objections that might invalidate the vote arise during
the waiting period, misc.health.alternative will be newgrouped by the
new.announce.newgroups moderator.

Please send any questions or comments about the vote or the newsgroup
to  or <[email protected]>.


VOTE TALLY:

Conditional Yes Vote (not counted):
 (Patricia M. Burson)

Duplicate Votes (not counted):
 Antti Kivivalli
(alizard) 
 Bruce Stephens
 Kathy Brunet
 (george scora)


 (Ori Gottlieb)
 (Linda Kaplan)
 (Simon Parkinson)

 (WA Office of Higher Education)

No Votes (64):
 (Andrew Finkenstadt)
 Arne Henrik Juul


 (Atro S Tossavainen)
 (Ed Bailey)
 "John Berryhill"@udel.edu, "Ph.D."
(briand)  Brian Dickson
 (Martin Bublitz)
 Charles Shub
 (Carl Rigney)
 Chris Marble

 "Ofer Inbar"
 The Integral Differential
(dick) 
 (David Barton)
 (Daniel S. Lewart)
 David E. Goggin

 (Ed Watkeys)
 "Eric J. Olson"
 (Ed McGuire)
 "James E. Ferguson CSC Sydney, Australia."
 (Jeff Gleixner)
 Gregg Mack
 "digital dave, 927-1052"

 (John De Armond)
 James Vincent Schultz
 "James D. Zelenka"
 Brian Kenney
 (AVERY KENYTT)
 Joel B Levin
 Joe LoCicero
 (Malcolm Austin)

 (Ken McGlothlen)
 Robert McGrath

(mjn)  (Murray Nesbitt)
 (Chris Phillips)
 (Joel Plutchak)
 "Ian Poulin, CCIT User Support"
 Joshua Randall
 "Robert E. Schmieg"
 (Richard H. Miller)
 Tim Rigg
 ROSEN Dan
 (Russell McFatter)
 "Dave V. Schaller"
 Scott Ballantyne
 "Matt T. Senft"
 (timothy shimeall)
 Marc Moorcroft
 Lawrence C Smith
 (Mikael Parknert)

 (Steve Rehfuss)
 (Rob Strom)

 "Sven M. Heinicke"
 (Ted Koppel)


Yes Votes (356):
<[email protected]> (That Guy)
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]> Norman Patch
<[email protected]> PH STERN
 (Abhay Bulsari VT)

 (Barry H. Rodin)
 "alan jaffray"
 Antti Kivivalli
 acapella
(alizard) 
 (Andrew LM Shalit)
 (Amy McNulty)
 (Andrea Frankel)
 (Andre Lacroix)
 Andrew Schaffner
 (Angela Morgan)
 (Ann Terese Heil)
 Anne Messenger
 (Darlene Vandever)

 "astallon.US1"
 (SignalMan)
 (Avery Ray Colter)
 (avi zelmanov)

 (Barry Kapke)

 "BRUCE B. LEROY"
 Barry J Burns
 (Bruce Davis)
 (Bernard A Tilson)
 (Beth Schwindt)
 (Susan Biddlecomb)
 Bill Garland
 (Bill McCormick)
 (Mike E. Romano)

 (Bob Sheppard)
 Bob Williams
 (Rock Gardener)
 (Brent J. Krawchuk)
 Bruce Stephens
 Kathy Brunet
 (Bernie Simon)
 "Bartley R. Troyan"
 (Bud Jordan)

 (Franco Bussani)
 (Bill Walther)


 Johanne Kaminski

 Rex Croft
 "Pat Mitchell, Help Desk"
 (Craig D Rice)
 "Ghosts and goblins are my friends,and Fairies dance bes
 (Victor Scott Rose)
 (Charles van Duren)
 Leonard Cho
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