From [email protected] Thu Mar 10 15:13:42 1994
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From: [email protected] (Alberto Castillo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: RFD: soc.culture.mexican.american
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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This is a formal Request for Discussion on the creation of the Usenet 
group soc.culture.mexican.american. 
All comments regarding this proposal should be posted in news.groups. 
**This article will be cross-posted to soc.culture.mexican and 
soc.culture.latin-america.

=======================================================================

CHARTER
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Name:           soc.culture.mexican.american
Status:         unmoderated
Description:    Mexican-American/Chicano culture, politics, and society.

1) Purpose: 

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be a newsgroup dedicated to the
discussion of issues relating to the life, culture, history, and
politics of people born in the USA of Mexican descent.  Regardless of
its official name, this newsgroup will serve as a forum for all the
millions of people born in the US of Mexican heritage who identify
themselves as Chicano, Chicana, Mexican-American, Mexican, etc. The
newsgroup will provide a place for Mexican-Americans/Chicanos in
universities, industry, government, and elsewhere to exchange
information and to encourage better communication of ideas. It will
also be a place where others can learn more about this unique culture
and participate in discussions.
   
2) Background:

Although there currently exists related newsgroups such as
soc.culture.mexican, and soc.culture.latin-america, people born in
the US of Mexican descent can't always identify with these groups. A
group is needed where the interests are the issues that affect us in
the USA -- a group dedicated to our cultural, historical and
political growth. A number of electronic mailing lists exist to
provide a means of communication among Mexican-American/Chicano
college students. This newsgroup will be an extension to such lists
to encompass a wider audience beyond the university setting and to
foster communication among the different groups. Both the names
Chicano and Mexican-American seem recognized by people from different
ages, interests, and occupations, yet the name chosen for the draft
proposal is mexican.american since it seemed to be the more widely
accepted term. However, this charter is provisional and is subject to
the wishes of the people it will serve.

3) Posting Policy:

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be unmoderated. Contributors must
use their own judgment to decide the relevance of their articles to
the topics discussed in the newsgroup.  Discussions that are only
relevant to very few individuals should be moved to e-mail.
    
4) Language:

We expect both English and Spanish to be the dominant languages in
the newsgroup.  We expect people to show some unity and respect all
people who participate in the group, regardless of which language
they write in or whether they identify more with the term Chicano or
Mexican-American.  

=====================================================================

Comments: All comments regarding this proposal should be posted in
news.groups. If there is interest in this proposal, a Call for Votes
should follow in about 4 weeks.  Other questions or personal comments
can be directed to me.
-- 					
  [email protected]            Alberto Castillo
    [email protected]                3 Ames Street
                                   Cambridge, MA  02139

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Apr 19 17:52:01 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: CFV: soc.culture.mexican.american
Followup-To: poster
Date: 18 Apr 1994 16:44:36 -0400
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group soc.culture.mexican.american

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.mexican.american	Mexican-American/Chicano culture and issues.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 16 May 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists [email protected], [email protected], and
[email protected].

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Alberto Castillo .


CHARTER

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be a newsgroup focusing on the
discussion of issues and current events relating to the life,
culture, history, and politics of people born and/or raised in the
USA of Mexican descent.  Regardless of its official name, this
newsgroup will serve as a forum for all the millions of people who
identify themselves as Chicano/a, Mexican-American, etc. or have an
interest in this culture. The newsgroup will provide a place for
Mexican-Americans/Chicanos in universities, industry, government, and
elsewhere to exchange information, to encourage better communication
of ideas, and to network with one another. It will also be a place
where others can learn more about this unique culture and participate
in discussions.
   
Background:

Although there currently exists related newsgroups such as
soc.culture.mexican, and soc.culture.latin-america, people born
and/or raised in the USA of Mexican descent may identify better with
this new group. A group is needed where the focus of interests are
the issues that affect us in the USA -- a group dedicated to the
cultural, historical, and political growth of Chicanos/
Mexican-Americans. A number of electronic mailing lists exist to 
provide a means of communication among Mexican-American/
Chicano college students. This newsgroup will be an extension to such
lists to encompass a wider audience beyond the university setting and
to foster communication among the different groups. Both the names
Chicano and Mexican-American seem recognized by people from different
ages, interests, and occupations, yet the name chosen for the draft
proposal is mexican.american since it seemed to be the more widely
accepted term. However, this charter is provisional and is subject to
the wishes of the people it will serve.

Posting Policy:

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be unmoderated. Contributors must
use their own judgment to decide the relevance of their articles to
the topics discussed in the newsgroup.  Discussions that are only
relevant to very few individuals should be moved to e-mail.
    
Language:

We expect both English and Spanish to be the dominant languages in
the newsgroup.  We expect people to show some unity and respect all
people who participate in the group, regardless of which language
they write in or whether they identify more with the term Chicano or
Mexican-American.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on soc.culture.mexican.american
      I vote NO on soc.culture.mexican.american

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed May  4 17:43:28 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.mexican.american
Supersedes: 
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                unmoderated group soc.culture.mexican.american

Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.mexican.american    Mexican-American/Chicano culture and issues.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 16 May 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing lists [email protected], [email protected], and
[email protected].

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Alberto Castillo .


CHARTER

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be a newsgroup focusing on the
discussion of issues and current events relating to the life,
culture, history, and politics of people born and/or raised in the
USA of Mexican descent.  Regardless of its official name, this
newsgroup will serve as a forum for all the millions of people who
identify themselves as Chicano/a, Mexican-American, etc. or have an
interest in this culture. The newsgroup will provide a place for
Mexican-Americans/Chicanos in universities, industry, government, and
elsewhere to exchange information, to encourage better communication
of ideas, and to network with one another. It will also be a place
where others can learn more about this unique culture and participate
in discussions.
   
Background:

Although there currently exists related newsgroups such as
soc.culture.mexican, and soc.culture.latin-america, people born
and/or raised in the USA of Mexican descent may identify better with
this new group. A group is needed where the focus of interests are
the issues that affect us in the USA -- a group dedicated to the
cultural, historical, and political growth of Chicanos/
Mexican-Americans. A number of electronic mailing lists exist to 
provide a means of communication among Mexican-American/
Chicano college students. This newsgroup will be an extension to such
lists to encompass a wider audience beyond the university setting and
to foster communication among the different groups. Both the names
Chicano and Mexican-American seem recognized by people from different
ages, interests, and occupations, yet the name chosen for the draft
proposal is mexican.american since it seemed to be the more widely
accepted term. However, this charter is provisional and is subject to
the wishes of the people it will serve.

Posting Policy:

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be unmoderated. Contributors must
use their own judgment to decide the relevance of their articles to
the topics discussed in the newsgroup.  Discussions that are only
relevant to very few individuals should be moved to e-mail.
    
Language:

We expect both English and Spanish to be the dominant languages in
the newsgroup.  We expect people to show some unity and respect all
people who participate in the group, regardless of which language
they write in or whether they identify more with the term Chicano or
Mexican-American.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on soc.culture.mexican.american
      I vote NO on soc.culture.mexican.american

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



soc.culture.mexican.american Bounce List - No need to revote
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No bounced votes at this time


From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon May 16 22:57:46 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.mexican.american passes 209:50
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                                    RESULT
     unmoderated group soc.culture.mexican.american passes 209:50

There were 209 YES votes and 50 NO votes, for a total of 259 valid votes. 
There was 259 invalid ballot.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.mexican.american    Mexican-American/Chicano culture and issues.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Alberto Castillo .


CHARTER

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be a newsgroup focusing on the
discussion of issues and current events relating to the life,
culture, history, and politics of people born and/or raised in the
USA of Mexican descent.  Regardless of its official name, this
newsgroup will serve as a forum for all the millions of people who
identify themselves as Chicano/a, Mexican-American, etc. or have an
interest in this culture. The newsgroup will provide a place for
Mexican-Americans/Chicanos in universities, industry, government, and
elsewhere to exchange information, to encourage better communication
of ideas, and to network with one another. It will also be a place
where others can learn more about this unique culture and participate
in discussions.
   
Background:

Although there currently exists related newsgroups such as
soc.culture.mexican, and soc.culture.latin-america, people born
and/or raised in the USA of Mexican descent may identify better with
this new group. A group is needed where the focus of interests are
the issues that affect us in the USA -- a group dedicated to the
cultural, historical, and political growth of Chicanos/
Mexican-Americans. A number of electronic mailing lists exist to 
provide a means of communication among Mexican-American/
Chicano college students. This newsgroup will be an extension to such
lists to encompass a wider audience beyond the university setting and
to foster communication among the different groups. Both the names
Chicano and Mexican-American seem recognized by people from different
ages, interests, and occupations, yet the name chosen for the draft
proposal is mexican.american since it seemed to be the more widely
accepted term. However, this charter is provisional and is subject to
the wishes of the people it will serve.

Posting Policy:

Soc.culture.mexican.american will be unmoderated. Contributors must
use their own judgment to decide the relevance of their articles to
the topics discussed in the newsgroup.  Discussions that are only
relevant to very few individuals should be moved to e-mail.
    
Language:

We expect both English and Spanish to be the dominant languages in
the newsgroup.  We expect people to show some unity and respect all
people who participate in the group, regardless of which language
they write in or whether they identify more with the term Chicano or
Mexican-American.


soc.culture.mexican.american Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                         Abraham Meza
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[email protected]                                                 DREAMER
[email protected]                                          Alexander Diaz
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[email protected]                                  Alberto Tomas Youngblood
[email protected]                                       Aldo Castillo
[email protected]                                   gabriel alfaro
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[email protected]                                       Armando Mendoza
[email protected]                                       Andres Salanova
[email protected]                                      Dominique F. Phillps
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[email protected]                             Arturo Guerrero +1 708 979 0931
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[email protected]                             Stephen T. Yavorsky
[email protected]                                        Tejeda Balmes
[email protected]                              Robert Joseph Barbosa
[email protected]                                                    David Barr
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[email protected]                                     Yuri R. Bendana
[email protected]                                       Shag Aristotelis
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[email protected]                              Brenda Morales
[email protected]                                 Douglas P. Shannon
[email protected]                                                       Paul Lin
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[email protected]                                 Carlos Eduardo Martin
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[email protected]                                          Dr. Richard Cassin
[email protected]                                              Alberto Castillo
[email protected]                                                catalina m reyes
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[email protected]                             City of Commerce Public Library
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[email protected]                                     Cyndi Manriquez
[email protected]                                 Christopher Sotomayor
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[email protected]                                       Salinas Carlos
[email protected]                                                      Jose Lopez
[email protected]                                          Craig Verver
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[email protected]                                  Cynthia Karle
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[email protected]                                           David Adams
[email protected]                            Daniel Ramirez
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[email protected]                                  Delia Leticia Lopez
[email protected]                                                  Ramon Diaz
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[email protected]                                               David Pinedo
[email protected]                          Douglas J. Parsons
[email protected]                                                  Manuel Gamboa
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[email protected]                                                  Daniel Garcia
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[email protected]                                  EUGENIO JARAMILLO
[email protected]                                  PRIME Support
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[email protected]                              Felipe De Jesus Salazar
[email protected]                                            Wardo
[email protected]                                    Francisco de Urquijo
[email protected]                                       Frank Honore'
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[email protected]                                             Feliciano  Zuniga
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[email protected]                               Gerardo J. Lemus Rodriguez
[email protected]                                                   Gil Neiger
[email protected]                                     Gregor Herrmann
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[email protected]                             Gloria Mari Rodriguez
[email protected]                                                  GSALOM
[email protected]                                                  GUSTAVO SOTO
[email protected]                                                 Geoffrey Spear
[email protected]                                      Hilda Lorenia Soto
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[email protected]                                        Jaime Pelayo
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[email protected]                             James Alexander Chokey
[email protected]                                                     Jeff Oxendine
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[email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt
[email protected]                                       Jorge Montiel
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[email protected]                                          John Gonzalez
[email protected]                                   Jose Nieto (Path)
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[email protected]                                                 Jose Ochoa
[email protected]                                                Jose Rico
[email protected]                            Jose E Rodriguez
[email protected]                                      Julio Hernandez
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[email protected]                                                   Kyle K. Shinseki
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                        Ligia Cardenas
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[email protected]                                      Luis H. Rodriguez
[email protected]                                           Lorena M Juarez
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[email protected]                                         Lourdes Franco
[email protected]                                      lydia torres
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[email protected]                                                    LUisVEga
[email protected]                             Marco Antonio Morales
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MARTINEZJ%[email protected]                            JUNITA . MARTINEZ
[email protected]                                Martin R. Gonzalez
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[email protected]                                   Lucky Gutierrez
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[email protected]                                     Teresa Montemayor
[email protected]                                      morales
[email protected]                                               Mariana
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[email protected]                                      Matilde G. Sanchez
[email protected]                                        Michael Sedano
[email protected]                                          Noemi Flores
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[email protected]                                               Nestor Ocampo
[email protected]                                   Norma Mendoza-Denton
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[email protected]                                      D Palomares
[email protected]                              Francisca L James-Hdez
[email protected]                                                 Amie Patao
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[email protected]                                    Pablo Urquijo
[email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn
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[email protected]                                            Raul Coronado
[email protected]                                        ramiro jr  cerda
[email protected]                                            Rob Duke
[email protected]                                               Rachel E Adame
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[email protected]                          Stefan Fischer Rivera
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[email protected]                                                  Ruth M. SYLTE
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[email protected]                                Rolando Romero
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[email protected]                                       Favila Sonia M
[email protected]                                             THE PRINCE
[email protected]                                             David Ian Salter
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[email protected]                                                John Colvard
[email protected]                                   Kathryn & Andreas Gehrs-Pahl
[email protected]                                     Michael SB Shoshani
[email protected]                                        IRA SMAILER
[email protected]                                                   Sonia R.
[email protected]                                            Srdjan Lukic
[email protected]                                              AMY MALDONADO
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[email protected]                                     A. Santa Cruz
[email protected]                                       Tim P. Applebee
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[email protected]                                          Richard R Urena
[email protected]                                       Robert Kastigar
[email protected]                                                      Luis Melgoza
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[email protected]                                     Veronica Pizana
[email protected]                                 Victor Manuel Arellano
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[email protected]                                     Veronica Rosales
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[email protected]                         W Jose Castrellon G
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[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
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[email protected]                                Kristin Neuman
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[email protected]                                       Zeydy Ortiz-Laureano

Voted No
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[email protected]                                       F. P. Adams, Jr.
[email protected]                      JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA
[email protected]                                     Ernesto Alvarado
[email protected]                                       Andrew McMichael
[email protected]                                             Andrew Tellez
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                           Ed Bailey
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                           arthur blair
[email protected]                                              Bernard S Black
[email protected]                                    Mark Kupferman
[email protected]           Chris "ASCII Console Monster Man" Jackson
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
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[email protected]                                        Chris Payne
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                        Jamie Gritton
HD0022%[email protected]                           Chip Dunham
[email protected]                   MORAN HERMOSILLA HECTOR ITALO
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                                   John De Armond
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                                   Axl
[email protected]                                              Kari E. Hurtta
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[email protected]                                         Laura Gillespie
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[email protected]                                           Miguel Farah F.
[email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb
[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                   Marjorie R. Stamper
[email protected]                                           Pablo Kleinman
[email protected]                                     Chris Phillips
[email protected]                                      Alejandro Quiroz
[email protected]                                              Ricardo C. Davis
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
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[email protected]                                             Scott Anguish
[email protected]                                       Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                       Heikki T. Suopanki
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                          Timothy VanFosson
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[email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                               Queens Library
   ! Invalid address