From [email protected] Thu Jul 13 13:40:07 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.lang.visual Subject: CFV: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Followup-To: poster Date: 12 Jul 1995 23:24:03 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 75 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Distribution: inet Expires: 3 Aug 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID:Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7134 news.groups:159110 comp.os.netware.misc:6167 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:71819 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:7937 comp.lang.visual:3526 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Newsgroups line: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Novell's visual development environment. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Aug 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact Eric Weidl . This CFV will be sent to mailing list [email protected]. CHARTER The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup will serve the AppWare developer community worldwide, and will be open for discussion to any interested party. Discussion topics will include, but not be limited to, capabilities and limitations of AppWare, cross-platform issues for AppWare developers, and programming tips and techniques, especially as they relate to AppWare as a visual programming language. Other topics of discussion will include: - developing client-server systems - developing multimedia applications - developing network applications - designing and coding AppWare Loadable Modules (ALMs) - visual style guidelines - auditing and documenting AppWare projects - debugging - product updates and feature requests - and other topics The discussions will be held in English. A FAQ is in development and will be posted to the group on a monthly basis. Reasonable commercial advertisements will be permitted as long as they are clearly marked as such in the subject of the message. RATIONALE AppWare is a visual development environment for creating custom applications for Macintosh and MS-Windows platforms. Applications are built using icons which represent objects (data) and functions (operations). The icons are connected by lines which represent flow-of-control and thus determine the logic of an application. The icons represent previously compiled code and thus is distinct from other 'visual' tools such as Visual Basic or Visual C++. At present there is no dedicated newsgroup for the growing community of AppWare developers. The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup would provide a forum for developers that currently number over 5,000 in the United States and with another 1,000 outside the U.S. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: [email protected] Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. It would be apprciated by the votetaker if you did NOT forward the entire CFV back; this mail is archived and I really don't need several hundred copies of the CFV on my system. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From [email protected] Mon Jul 24 18:09:06 1995 Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.lang.visual Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Followup-To: news.groups Date: 20 Jul 1995 18:23:04 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 75 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Distribution: inet Expires: 3 Aug 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7193 news.groups:160296 comp.os.netware.misc:6890 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:72572 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:8220 comp.lang.visual:3532 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Newsgroups line: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Novell's visual development environment. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Aug 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact Eric Weidl . This CFV will be sent to mailing list [email protected]. CHARTER The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup will serve the AppWare developer community worldwide, and will be open for discussion to any interested party. Discussion topics will include, but not be limited to, capabilities and limitations of AppWare, cross-platform issues for AppWare developers, and programming tips and techniques, especially as they relate to AppWare as a visual programming language. Other topics of discussion will include: - developing client-server systems - developing multimedia applications - developing network applications - designing and coding AppWare Loadable Modules (ALMs) - visual style guidelines - auditing and documenting AppWare projects - debugging - product updates and feature requests - and other topics The discussions will be held in English. A FAQ is in development and will be posted to the group on a monthly basis. Reasonable commercial advertisements will be permitted as long as they are clearly marked as such in the subject of the message. RATIONALE AppWare is a visual development environment for creating custom applications for Macintosh and MS-Windows platforms. Applications are built using icons which represent objects (data) and functions (operations). The icons are connected by lines which represent flow-of-control and thus determine the logic of an application. The icons represent previously compiled code and thus is distinct from other 'visual' tools such as Visual Basic or Visual C++. At present there is no dedicated newsgroup for the growing community of AppWare developers. The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup would provide a forum for developers that currently number over 5,000 in the United States and with another 1,000 outside the U.S. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: [email protected] Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. It would be apprciated by the votetaker if you did NOT forward the entire CFV back; this mail is archived and I really don't need several hundred copies of the CFV on my system. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From [email protected] Fri Aug 4 17:37:59 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.lang.visual Subject: RESULT: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware passes 129:22 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 4 Aug 1995 21:37:46 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 222 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7283 news.groups:162838 comp.os.netware.misc:8276 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:74090 comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc:8795 comp.lang.visual:3546 RESULT unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware passes 129:22 There were 129 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 151 valid votes. There were 3 abstains and 3 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Novell's visual development environment. This vote ended 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Aug 1995. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact Eric Weidl . CHARTER The comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware newsgroup will serve the AppWare developer community worldwide, and will be open for discussion to any interested party. Discussion topics will include, but not be limited to, capabilities and limitations of AppWare, cross-platform issues for AppWare developers, and programming tips and techniques, especially as they relate to AppWare as a visual programming language. Other topics of discussion will include: - developing client-server systems - developing multimedia applications - developing network applications - designing and coding AppWare Loadable Modules (ALMs) - visual style guidelines - auditing and documenting AppWare projects - debugging - product updates and feature requests - and other topics The discussions will be held in English. A FAQ is in development and will be posted to the group on a monthly basis. Reasonable commercial advertisements will be permitted as long as they are clearly marked as such in the subject of the message. comp.soft-sys.app-builder.appware Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ /G=Swenka/S=Ben/OU2=BJMM1/OU=ZHKBA/P=MOT/A=MOT/C=US/@email.mot.com [email protected] Joerg Bliesener [email protected] Alan J. Weger [email protected] John Hastings [email protected] Andreas Amoroso [email protected] Andrew Deckowitz [email protected] Jim Ault [email protected] Bryce W. Bate [email protected] Grzanic, Bill (CIS) [email protected] Bob Trosper [email protected] Orr, Brian (CIS) [email protected] Randy Bradley [email protected] Brian Brown [email protected] [email protected] Bryan Cardoza [email protected] Cameron Mashayekhi [email protected] Carl Palme [email protected] Chema Berian Luna [email protected] Clarisa Diment [email protected] Matt Quagliana [email protected] Chris A Jones [email protected] Chris Stamper [email protected] Carlos Rondan Gertzenstein [email protected] [email protected] Calvin Ruben [email protected] Christopher Stetson [email protected] Cyber Surfer [email protected] Darek Iwanski [email protected] Daniel Ashby [email protected] Fuchs, Dave [email protected] Doug Davis [email protected] [email protected] Ed Cox [email protected] Edgar Jerez [email protected] Eric Merth [email protected] Eddy Pulido [email protected] Eric Noble [email protected] Frank Fay [email protected] Faustino Nebrera Garcia [email protected] Gary F. Alderson [email protected] Grant Charsley [email protected] Garrett Galten [email protected] G|ran Thyni [email protected] Jonathan Gourd [email protected] [email protected] Greg Perugini [email protected] GreenWave MoonTribe [email protected] Haskia Hasson [email protected] Henry J. Lach [email protected] Iain Pybus [email protected] James Monteath [email protected] Jennifer Mitchell [email protected] Anders Jenski [email protected] Jim Bain [email protected] [email protected] John Davis [email protected] John Christensen [email protected] John Epeneter [email protected] Jonboy [email protected] John Young [email protected] [email protected] Kevin Engel [email protected] Kenley Brinkerhoff [email protected] Fleming,Kevin [email protected] Khashayar Rakhsha [email protected] John B. Kinney [email protected] Martin Chorost [email protected] Kris L Jorgensen [email protected] John Czlonka [email protected] Lal Alakkattussery [email protected] Lantz Rowland [email protected] Laurie Tifft [email protected] Lee Choquette [email protected] Martin Schr"oder [email protected] Laurent Saehyun Kim [email protected] Luc Saint-Elie [email protected] Mark Pierce [email protected] Mark Sulzen [email protected] Matthew Mitchell [email protected] Matt Nielson (remote) [email protected] Marisa Diaz [email protected] Mendy Mendelsohn [email protected] Michael Hall [email protected] Gary J. Middione [email protected] Mike Chapman [email protected] William Moxley [email protected] Mark Pappas [email protected] Mikael Wikstrom [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Neil Harrington [email protected] Erik Ossenfort [email protected] Octavio ForNext Pimentel [email protected] David Rahmel [email protected] Pam Robello [email protected] Peerless Clothing Inc. [email protected] Randy Cook [email protected] William M. Brown [email protected] Robert Rodriguez [email protected] [email protected] Russ Graves [email protected] Sarah Firmage [email protected] Scott Clausen [email protected] [email protected] Steve Henley [email protected] Sibai Li [email protected] Jack van Klaren [email protected] Shawn N. Rausch [email protected] Riccio, Steve (CIS) [email protected] Stefan Buchholtz [email protected] Stephen Jones [email protected] Steve Bowen [email protected] Yoshi "TANA" Tanaka [email protected] Martin Michlmayr [email protected] Lennart Regebro [email protected] Terry Fickes [email protected] Todd Seager [email protected] Thomas R. Kimpton [email protected] James Touchi-Peters [email protected] Troy Wright [email protected] Robert D. Young, US Bancorp [email protected] Vicente Bouza Alvarez [email protected] Mike Lemm [email protected] [email protected] Walter Torres (TCG) [email protected] Wayne Donaldson [email protected] Eric Weidl, Digital Prairie, Inc. [email protected] Welby Hansen [email protected] Vitaly V. Fedrushkov [email protected] Bill Young Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Cameron Knowlton [email protected] Greg Lindahl [email protected] HELGE HAUGLAND [email protected] [email protected] HiTech [email protected] Ian Jackson [email protected] John R. MacWilliamson [email protected] Hasnain Khan [email protected] Lance K. Chun [email protected] Marcus Breiing [email protected] Michael Sawczyn [email protected] Ollivier Robert [email protected] Patrick J. LoPresti [email protected] Pierre Uszynski [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Robert L. Edwards [email protected] Smarasderagd [email protected] Dwight Brown [email protected] Thomas G. McWilliams [email protected] Tim Pierce [email protected] Bob Weissman [email protected] Risto Widenius Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Jonathan Adair [email protected] Kenneth P Crouch [email protected] M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Christopher Du. Long ! No vote statement in message [email protected] Michiel Wijers ! No vote statement in message [email protected] David Earnest ! No vote statement in message
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