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From: [email protected] (Erland Sommarskog)
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This is a request for discussion of creating of the newsgroup
soc.culture.baltic, which I think is long overdue.

The group would be unmoderated.

The group would be devoted to the countries Estonia, Latvia and
Lithuania, often lumped together under the label "The Baltic states".

Topics would include culture, networking, language, politics,
shortly anything you expect from a soc.culture.* group.

The prime language in the group would be English, but the use of local
languages should not be condemned.

As some people might know there is also a LISTSERV list, BALT-L with
the same charter. This list is moderated, and the moderator Edis Bevan,
is doing an excellent job. I and Edis have discussed various ways of
connect BALT-L and s.c.baltic, but we have reached the conclusion that
there should be no regular connection to begin with. Unmoderating BALT-L
is out of the question, and a moderated soc.culture.* group seems in-
compatible with the Usnet spirit.

Despite the existance of BALT-L, I think there is a need for s.c.baltic.
If nothing else, a lot of the material in talk.politics.soviet, once
you filtered away Mutlu/Arigc, concerns the Baltic countries.

My planned schedule is to let the discussion period go before 
Christmas, and the start the vote around January 7th, when things
are back to normal.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - [email protected]

From [email protected] Wed Jan  6 21:01:31 1993
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This is a call for votes to create the newsgroup soc.culture.baltics.
I originially proposed the name s.c.baltic, but a simple poll I con-
ducted indicated that while s.c.baltic and s.c.baltics had about equal 
preference, s.c.baltic seems to have more anti-votes. Other proposals
did not gain much support.

To vote send mail me at [email protected], with a vote unambiguously
saying YES or NO to soc.culture.baltics. I will try acknowledge all
votes by mail. The voting starts with the appearance of this article 
and lasts to February 5th. This CFV will be repeated once during this 
period.

The group would be unmoderated.

The group would be devoted to the countries Estonia, Latvia and
Lithuania, often lumped together under the label "The Baltic states".

Topics would include culture, networking, language, politics,
shortly anything you expect from a soc.culture.* group.

The prime language in the group would be English, but the use of local
languages should not be condemned.

During the discussion people have expressed interest in at least
a one-way gateway from the BALT-L mailing list. I have had discussions
on this topic with Edis Bevan who is editing BALT-L, and we have
agreed not to set up something regular to begin with, but there
will surely appear some form of arrangement.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - [email protected]
Jag gav en k{ck tjeck en check.

From [email protected] Mon Jan 18 17:11:28 1993
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Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.baltics
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This is the second and last call for votes to create the newsgroup 
soc.culture.baltics. Of the votes I've received so far, I failed to
get acknowledge through for one voter:

[email protected]

The text of the original CFV follows.

I originially proposed the name s.c.baltic, but a simple poll I con-
ducted indicated that while s.c.baltic and s.c.baltics had about equal 
preference, s.c.baltic seems to have more anti-votes. Other proposals
did not gain much support.

To vote send mail me at [email protected], with a vote unambiguously
saying YES or NO to soc.culture.baltics. I will try acknowledge all
votes by mail. The voting starts with the appearance of this article 
and lasts to February 5th. This CFV will be repeated once during this 
period.

The group would be unmoderated.

The group would be devoted to the countries Estonia, Latvia and
Lithuania, often lumped together under the label "The Baltic states".

Topics would include culture, networking, language, politics,
shortly anything you expect from a soc.culture.* group.

The prime language in the group would be English, but the use of local
languages should not be condemned.

During the discussion people have expressed interest in at least
a one-way gateway from the BALT-L mailing list. I have had discussions
on this topic with Edis Bevan who is editing BALT-L, and we have
agreed not to set up something regular to begin with, but there
will surely appear some form of arrangement.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - [email protected]

From [email protected] Thu Feb 18 23:14:48 1993
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From: [email protected] (Erland Sommarskog)
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Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.baltics passes 135:18
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The voting for soc.culture.baltics is over. I received 136 Yes votes
and 19 No votes. However, I accidently deleted one Yes vote, and one
No vote was a duplicate, so the final result of 135 in favor 18 against, 
which fulfils the criterias for a group to pass. Thus after the regular 
five-day waiting period the group will be created.

Thanks to everyone who voted. Below is a list of the people who voted.

NO votes:
Brian Kenney 
Dave Carr ([email protected])
Dave V. Schaller 
Eric J. Olson 
Hans Huttel 
Hi-keeba! ([email protected])
Juha Iisakka ([email protected])
Leonard J. Peirce ([email protected])
Michael Polymenakos ([email protected])
Mike Palmer 
Murray Nesbitt ([email protected])
Patrick Tufts 
Paul Maclauchlan ([email protected])
Richard H. Miller ([email protected])
Ronald V. Dziuk Jr. 
Thomas Wang 
[email protected]
[email protected]

YES votes:


[email protected]
Aaron L Dickey ([email protected]com)
Agris Taurins 
Ahmed Al-Ashabb 
Anders Andersson  
[email protected] (Anders Engwall)
Andrew Solovay ([email protected])
Anne Merend ([email protected])
Antti Lepp{nen kultt.antrop.yo. puh.730 512 
Antti Simola 
Arturas Tamkevicius 
Baldur Kubo 
Bernfried Neukaeter 
Bertil Jonell 
Bjarte OSTVOLD ([email protected])
Bjoern Greinert  
Bj|rn Tore Nyland 
Brian SPENCER 
[email protected] (Alexander EICHENER)
Chicago Cro ()
Chris Marble 
Dack ([email protected])
Daniel von Brighoff 
David Cohen 
David Hinz ([email protected] ([email protected]))
David Kaminsky ([email protected])
David Mardiste ([email protected])
Dennis Brennan 
Edward Reid ([email protected])
Edward Vielmetti 
Eero Uustalu 
Erich Mikk 
Erik Boman 
Erik Teose 
Erkki Aalto ([email protected])
Frank Kaefer ([email protected])
[email protected]
Gregory G. Woodbury ([email protected])
Harri Laine 
Ilze Masinskas. 
In Search Of  ([email protected])
Indrek Kalamees 
Jaan Ginter 
Jaan Kalda ([email protected])
Jarmo Ryyti 
Joel Furr ([email protected])
John Grossi ([email protected])
John MacWilliamson ([email protected])
Jon Bell ([email protected])
Josef Nelissen 
Juergen Mueller ([email protected])
Jukka Kohonen ([email protected])
Juris Rungis ([email protected])
Jyri Jarvet ([email protected])
Jyrki Kimmel 
[email protected]
Kai T Saukkonen 
Kari Kaarna ([email protected])
Karlis Cerans 
Killu Tougu  
Kurt Swanson 
Kylli Kivi 
Larry Loen 
Lee Choquette ([email protected])
Leon ter Beek 
Lori Haynes ([email protected])
Malle Tagamets 
Marco Kirm 
Melvin Klassen ([email protected])
Melynda Reid ([email protected])
Michael Chance ([email protected])
Michael Quinn 
Michael Qvortrup 
Mihkel Tammepuu ([email protected])
Minna Harjuniemi 
Mitra 
Mueller Beat 
Nils Riess ([email protected])
[email protected]
[email protected]
Paulo da Costa 42147 ([email protected])
Peter Trei ([email protected])
Po Shan Cheah 
Priit Kogerman ([email protected])
REGO OSTONEN 
ROBERT M J CZERNKOWSKI <[email protected]>
Raivo Stern 
Randolph J. Finder 
Richard M. Mathews ([email protected])
Robert Dambergs 
[email protected]
Scott M. Rogala ([email protected])
Sean Maguire <[email protected]>
Sergei Borodin ([email protected])
Sigitas Keras 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos 
Sven Spanne 
[email protected]
[email protected]
Tanel Tammet 
Tarmo Tuisk ([email protected])
Teno Teemaa 
Toivo Pedaste ([email protected])
Tom Haapanen ([email protected])
Tony Matti Juhani Paso 
Toomas Hendrik Ilves, Estonian Svc. tel 2332 
Toomas Saarsen 
Ulf Sundin ([email protected])
Usvyatsky Ilya ([email protected])
Valmar Moritz, tel. (+358)-0-857-1281. 
Veiko Miidel 
Veli Kalevi Kontra 
Vic Vaivads ([email protected])
Viktor Kaufmann ([email protected])
Yury M. Mukharsky ([email protected])
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
christopher thomas scanlan 
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
kilov,haim ([email protected])
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
rotalia 
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
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