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From: [email protected] (Diana Kae Stanley)
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.next.bugs
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                      CALL FOR DISCUSSION

comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.
(unmoderated)

With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug
reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade.
This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and
a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds.

Please note that discussion will be conducted on news.groups.
-- 
Diana Shoemaker
[email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Nov  2 15:40:00 1992
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From: [email protected] (Lusty Wench)
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.next.bugs
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                  2nd Call for Discussion

comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.
(unmoderated)

With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug
reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade.
This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and
a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds.  A
master list of confirmed bugs will be maintained and will be posted
periodically, as well as being made available from one or more
archive sites.  This list will include known fixes and/or
workarounds.

I apologize for the delay in posting this second CFD.  There has
been very little discussion regarding this group to date, however
there was one fairly persuasive argument for making the group
moderated.  The problems I see with making the group moderated
are these:
   1) Is there anyone who would be willing to moderate the group?
   2) Would the moderator be expected to confirm that all proposed
      postings are indeed actual bugs?  If so, see 1).

Follow-ups to news.groups.
-- 
Diana Shoemaker
[email protected]

From [email protected] Fri Nov 13 07:58:29 1992
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From: [email protected] (Diana Shoemaker)
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.next.bugs
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                             CALL FOR VOTES

This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the formation of a new Usenet
newsgroup, comp.sys.next.bugs, as described below.  The RFD for this
group was originated by Diana Shoemaker ([email protected]) and was 
posted in news.announce.newgroups on September 24th, 1992.  Discussion 
in news.groups since that time has been generally favorable (though 
light), and no significant objections to the group's name or charter 
have been raised.

The newsgroup will be constituted as follows:

comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.
(unmoderated)

Charter:
With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug
reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade.
This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and
a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all
versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be 
maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made
available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include
known fixes and/or workarounds.

VOTE ADDRESSES:

  "Yes" votes (in support of the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs as
  described) should be sent to

		[email protected]

  "No" votes (in opposition to the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs
  as described) should be sent to

		[email protected]

VOTE FORMAT:

  Votes should carry a subject line confirming the voter's
  intent, either "I vote yes on comp.sys.next.bugs" or "I vote no
  on comp.sys.next.bugs" as appropriate.  Variations in subject
  line format will be accepted as long as the intent is clearly
  expressed.  If the vote carries an empty subject line the
  message body will be inspected for confirmation of voting
  intent.

VOTES SENT AS REPLIES TO THE CFV:

  Votes sent as replies to the originator of this CFV
  ([email protected]) will be counted as "yes" or "no" votes
  according to their subject line or message body.

AMBIGUOUS VOTE RESOLUTION:

  Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines do not make clear
  the voter's intent, or whose subject line clashes with the vote
  address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply
  address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for
  clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to
  their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be
  identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote
  tally.
 
VOTING PERIOD:

  Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is
  approved for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending
  at 23:59 GMT on Monday, December 14th, 1992.  Votes arriving at the
  voting addresses or the reply address after the expiration of
  the voting period will be discarded.

  You may change your vote at any time before the expiry of the
  voting period by simply submitting a new vote.  The last vote
  to be cast by any given individual before the end of the voting
  period will be counted; earlier votes cast by that individual
  will be discarded.

And remember, it's one person, one vote.

From [email protected] Fri Dec  4 16:15:40 1992
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.sys.next.bugs
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                   2ND CALL FOR VOTES AND VOTE ACK

This is the second Call For Votes (CFV) and vote acknowledgement for
the formation of a new Usenet newsgroup, comp.sys.next.bugs, as
described below.  The RFD for this group was originated by Diana
Shoemaker ([email protected]) and was posted in
news.announce.newgroups on September 24th, 1992.  Discussion in
news.groups since that time has been generally favorable (though 
light), and no significant objections to the group's name or charter 
have been raised.

The original CFV was posted on or about November 12, 1992, and I
received a fair number of votes in the days following the posting.
On November 16, however, my machine was unexpectedly disconnected
>from the net and remained disconnected until about 17:00 CST today,
December 3.  At the end of this posting is a listing of people from
whom I received votes before the machine was disconnected.  There
has been only one vote come in since the machine was reconnected.
I'm sure that there were a number of votes that bounced during
the disconnection, so if your vote bounced, or you sent it more
than a day or two ago, please try again now.  This disconnection
was beyond my control; I hope that we can now resume the vote-taking
without having to invalidate the process and begin again.

The newsgroup will be constituted as follows:

comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.
(unmoderated)

Charter:
With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug
reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade.
This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and
a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all
versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be 
maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made
available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include
known fixes and/or workarounds.

VOTE ADDRESSES:

  "Yes" votes (in support of the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs as
  described) should be sent to

		[email protected]

  "No" votes (in opposition to the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs
  as described) should be sent to

		[email protected]

VOTE FORMAT:

  Votes should carry a subject line confirming the voter's
  intent, either "I vote yes on comp.sys.next.bugs" or "I vote no
  on comp.sys.next.bugs" as appropriate.  Variations in subject
  line format will be accepted as long as the intent is clearly
  expressed.  If the vote carries an empty subject line the
  message body will be inspected for confirmation of voting
  intent.

VOTES SENT AS REPLIES TO THE CFV:

  Votes sent as replies to the originator of this CFV
  ([email protected]) will be counted as "yes" or "no" votes
  according to their subject line or message body.

AMBIGUOUS VOTE RESOLUTION:

  Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines do not make clear
  the voter's intent, or whose subject line clashes with the vote
  address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply
  address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for
  clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to
  their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be
  identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote
  tally.
 
VOTING PERIOD:

  Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is
  approved for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending
  at 23:59 GMT on Monday, December 14th, 1992.  Votes arriving at the
  voting addresses or the reply address after the expiration of
  the voting period will be discarded.

  You may change your vote at any time before the expiry of the
  voting period by simply submitting a new vote.  The last vote
  to be cast by any given individual before the end of the voting
  period will be counted; earlier votes cast by that individual
  will be discarded.

And remember, it's one person, one vote.

VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:

 
 Andreas Haug 
 Anno Siegel 
 B.J.  13-Nov-1992 1726 
 Bob Palmer 
 Charles Shub 
 Charles William Swiger 
 Christian Kurrer 
 Christopher D Audley 
 [email protected]
 Corey Liss 
 Dan Berry 
 [email protected] (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)
 David G. Cantor 
 Dennis Jespersen 
 [email protected]
 Douglas F. DeJulio 
 Dragan Milicic 
 Draphsor vodrun-Aelf 
 Eric J. Olson 
 Eric Noyau 
 Eric Scott Boltz 
 Erick Herring 
 Erik Sowa 
 Fredrik Nyman 
 Garance A Drosehn 
 Glenn Brown 
 Gordie Freedman 
 Greg Colello 
 Gwyn Evans  13-Nov-1992 1707 
 H. Scott Roy 
 Hubert Delahaye 
 Ian Rae 
 Ivo Welch 
 Jeff Marshall 
 Jim Bernatowicz 
 Keith N. Lakeman 
 Kim Simmons 
 LISZT::bartok::heading%[email protected]
 Larry Blische 
 Lawrence Miller 
 Marc Millier 
 Marshall Gilula 
 Martin Imbeck 
 Matthew Seaman 
 Matthias Zepf 
 Michael Quinn 
 Nick Kline 
 Oliver Geisser 
 Operator 
 Pascal Chesnais 
 Pascal Gaudette 
 Paul Martin Trunz 
 Paul S. Sears 
 Peter Kron 
 Po Shan Cheah 
 Ray Spalding 
 Robert Fischer 
 Robert Macfarlane 
 [email protected]
 Roberto Virga 
 Rubricant Horticulturist 
 [email protected] (Dick Silbar)
 Scott Robinson 
 Sean Lamont 
 Serge J. Goldstein 
 Seth L. Blumberg 
 Stephane Ah-ki 
 Steven Hinkle 
 Sven M. Heinicke 
 [email protected]
 Terry Gliedt 
 Thierry Charles 
 Thomas Fischer 
 Thomas Sams 
 Thomas Tschannen 
 Tom Limoncelli 
 Tony Zamora 
 Ulrich Becker 
 Walter R. Innes 
 William J. Murphy 
 Zenon Fortuna 
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Alex Blakemore)
 [email protected] (Alex Levine)
 [email protected] (Andre Roberge)
 [email protected] (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
 [email protected] (Noam H. Arzt)
 [email protected] (Alois Steindl)
 [email protected] (Alvin Austin)
 [email protected] (Adam Beeman)
 [email protected] (Bill Smith)
 [email protected] (Matthew Curtin)
 [email protected] (Bob Vadnais)
 [email protected]
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Robert E. Brown)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Bill Vrotney)
 [email protected] (Charles_Spitzer)
 [email protected] (Cliff Winnig)
 [email protected] (Dan Danz)
 [email protected] (David Lau)
 [email protected] (Dean Blakeley MD)
 [email protected] (Michael Declerck)
 [email protected] (Lucien Dupont)
 [email protected] (Dylan Kohler)
 [email protected] (Eric Fronberg)
 [email protected] (Erland Wittkoetter)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Ernest Prabhakar)
 [email protected] (Ted Shuck  RCP)
 [email protected] (Sean Nolan)
 [email protected] (Larry Gadallah)
 [email protected] (Glenn Reid)
 [email protected]asalt.mit.edu (Matthias Imhof)
 [email protected] (Graham Stoney)
 [email protected] (Henry McGilton)
 [email protected]
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (James A. McGilvray)
 [email protected] (Joe St Sauver)
 [email protected] (John McCracken)
 [email protected] (John Nicol)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Kurt Bollacker)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Rohit Khare)
 [email protected] (Jack R. Lawler)
 [email protected] (Larry Fahnoe)
 [email protected] (Paul Marcos)
 matt%[email protected] (Matthew M. Stecker)
 [email protected] (David Li)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Michael D. Stanfill)
 [email protected] (Montgomery Zukowski)
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Nathan F. Janette)
 [email protected] (Paul van der Zwan)
 [email protected] (Peter Rossbach)
 [email protected] (Peter Eisch)
 [email protected] (brunner ralf)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
 [email protected] (Scott Hess)
 [email protected] (Scott A. McIntyre)
 [email protected] (Marcos Javier Polanco)
 [email protected] (Stefano Pagiola)
 [email protected] (Subrata Sircar)
 [email protected] (Stu Labovitz)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Shawn Willden)
 the special FX guy 
 [email protected] (Howard Brenner)
 [email protected] (Eric Wampner)
 [email protected] (Don Yacktman)
 [email protected] (Greg Yut)

From [email protected] Mon Dec 14 20:25:00 1992
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                   3RD CALL FOR VOTES AND VOTE ACK

This is the third and final Call For Votes (CFV) and vote ack-
nowledgement for the formation of a new Usenet newsgroup, 
comp.sys.next.bugs, as described below.  The RFD for this group 
was originated by Diana Shoemaker ([email protected]) and was 
posted in news.announce.newgroups on September 24th, 1992.  Discussion 
in news.groups since that time has been generally favorable (though 
light), and no significant objections to the group's name or charter 
have been raised.

At the end of this posting is a listing of people from whom I have
received votes.  The list is sorted according to the From: line
in each vote I have received.

The newsgroup will be constituted as follows:

comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.
(unmoderated)

Charter:
With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug
reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade.
This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and
a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all
versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be 
maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made
available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include
known fixes and/or workarounds.

VOTE ADDRESSES:

  "Yes" votes (in support of the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs as
  described) should be sent to

		[email protected]

  "No" votes (in opposition to the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs
  as described) should be sent to

		[email protected]

VOTE FORMAT:

  Votes should carry a subject line confirming the voter's
  intent, either "I vote yes on comp.sys.next.bugs" or "I vote no
  on comp.sys.next.bugs" as appropriate.  Variations in subject
  line format will be accepted as long as the intent is clearly
  expressed.  If the vote carries an empty subject line the
  message body will be inspected for confirmation of voting
  intent.

VOTES SENT AS REPLIES TO THE CFV:

  Votes sent as replies to the originator of this CFV
  ([email protected]) will be counted as "yes" or "no" votes
  according to their subject line or message body.

AMBIGUOUS VOTE RESOLUTION:

  Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines do not make clear
  the voter's intent, or whose subject line clashes with the vote
  address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply
  address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for
  clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to
  their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be
  identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote
  tally.
 
VOTING PERIOD:

  Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is
  approved for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending
  at 23:59 GMT on Monday, December 14th, 1992.  Votes arriving at the
  voting addresses or the reply address after the expiration of
  the voting period will be discarded.

  You may change your vote at any time before the expiry of the
  voting period by simply submitting a new vote.  The last vote
  to be cast by any given individual before the end of the voting
  period will be counted; earlier votes cast by that individual
  will be discarded.

And remember, it's one person, one vote.

VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:

 08-Dec-1992 1749 
 
 @fuug.fi:[email protected] (Sami Kukkonen)
 A. Chase Turner 
 Adrian Smith 
 Alex Honor 
 Alexander Hinds 
 Andreas Haug 
 Andrew Loewenstern 
 Anno Siegel 
 Arno Reitz 
 Avery Wang 
 B.J.  13-Nov-1992 1726 
 [email protected]
 Benoit Grange 
 Bill Hacker 
 Bob Palmer 
 Breck Witte 
 Carrick Talmadge 
 Charles Shub 
 Charles William Swiger 
 Christian Kurrer 
 Christian_Paulus 
 Christopher D Audley 
 [email protected]
 Chuck Kincaid 
 Chuck Waltrip 
 Corey Liss 
 [email protected] (Dack)
 Dan Berry 
 Dan Crimmins 
 [email protected] (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)
 Darcy BROCKBANK 
 David G. Cantor 
 David Jaffe 
 [email protected] (David Gursky)
 Dennis Jespersen 
 Dennis Roseman 
 [email protected]
 Dimitri Tischenko 
 Dirk Balfanz 
 Dis 
 Donald J. Siegel 
 Donald Lewine 
 Douglas F. DeJulio 
 Dragan Milicic 
 Draphsor vodrun-Aelf 
 Elmar K. Bins 
 Eric J. Olson 
 Eric Litman 
 Eric Noyau 
 Eric Scott Boltz 
 Eric Steven Brown 
 Eric Thayer 
 Erick Herring 
 Erik Sowa 
 Frank Siegert 
 Fredrik Nyman 
 [email protected].nz
 GLENN HOLM 
 Garance A Drosehn 
 Gerhard_Moeller 
 Gianfranco Pocecai 
 Glenn Brown 
 Gordie Freedman 
 Gossett 
 Greg Colello 
 Greg Vesper - 520.9 
 Guido Schoepp 
 Gwyn Evans  13-Nov-1992 1707 
 H. Scott Roy 
 H.Schlangmann-Lahner-DA-05/92 
 Harald Lauer 
 Hubert Delahaye 
 Ian Rae 
 Ivo Welch 
 J.B. Nicholson-Owens 
 Jacob Gore 
 James Grinter 
 Jeff Marshall 
 Jim Bernatowicz 
 John Robison 
 Juan Collas 
 Keith N. Lakeman 
 Kenji Seto 
 Kim Simmons 
 LISZT::bartok::heading%[email protected]
 Larry Blische 
 Lawrence Miller 
 Marc Millier 
 Mark Wuest 
 Markus Felten 
 Marshall Gilula 
 Martin Imbeck 
 Matthew Seaman 
 Matthias Klose 
 Matthias Zepf 
 Michael Cox 
 Michael D. Sprenger 
 Michael Giddings 
 Michael Quinn 
 Michael R Conners 
 Mikael Behrens 
 Nick Kline 
 Oliver Geisser 
 Operator 
 Pascal Chesnais 
 Pascal Gaudette 
 Patrick J. LoPresti 
 Paul F. Kunz 
 Paul Lynch 
 Paul Martin Trunz 
 Paul S. Sears 
 Peter Kron 
 Po Shan Cheah 
 R. Matthew Emerson 
 Ralf  Weber 
 Ray Spalding 
 Reimer A. Mellin 
 Robert Fischer 
 Robert Lutwak 
 Robert Macfarlane 
 Robert Wong 
 [email protected]
 Roberto Virga 
 Rubricant Horticulturist 
 Russ Beardall 
 [email protected] (Dick Silbar)
 Scott Robinson 
 Sean Lamont 
 Sebastian Florian Mix 
 Serge J. Goldstein 
 Seth L. Blumberg 
 Stephane Ah-ki 
 Stephen Peters 
 Steve Crutchfield 
 Steve Spicklemire 
 Steven Hinkle 
 Suzanne Woolf 
 Sven M. Heinicke 
 [email protected]
 Terry Gliedt 
 Thierry Charles 
 Thomas Fischer 
 Thomas Sams 
 Thomas Tschannen 
 Todd A Green 
 Tom Limoncelli 
 Tony Zamora 
 Tye 
 Ulrich Becker 
 Vince DeMarco 
 Walter R. Innes 
 Wayne P. Rogers 
 William J. Murphy 
 Zenon Fortuna 
 [email protected]
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Alex Blakemore)
 [email protected] (Alex Levine)
 [email protected] (Andres Mencke)
 [email protected] (Andre Roberge)
 [email protected] (Annard Brouwer)
 [email protected] (Ken-ichiro Aoki)
 [email protected] (Arnaud Weber)
 [email protected] (Noam H. Arzt)
 [email protected] (Alois Steindl)
 [email protected] (Alvin Austin)
 [email protected] (Adam Beeman)
 [email protected] (Bill Smith)
 [email protected] (Matthew Curtin)
 [email protected] (Bob Vadnais)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Rodney Price)
 [email protected] (Robert E. Brown)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Bill Vrotney)
 [email protected] (Dave Carr)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Charles_Spitzer)
 [email protected] (Cliff Winnig)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Dan Danz)
 [email protected] (Walter C. Daugherity)
 [email protected] (David Lau)
 [email protected] (Dean Blakeley MD)
 [email protected] (Michael Declerck)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Matthew Dillon)
 [email protected] (David L. Williams)
 [email protected] (Douglas Scott)
 [email protected] (Douglas R. Davidson)
 [email protected] (Dennis W. Ruck)
 [email protected] (Lucien Dupont)
 [email protected] (Doug Boyce)
 [email protected] (Dylan Kohler)
 [email protected] (Charles Eickelberg)
 [email protected] (Ed McGuire)
 [email protected] (Eric Fronberg)
 [email protected] (Eric Wespestad)
 [email protected] (Erik Kraft)
 [email protected] (Erland Wittkoetter)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Ted Shuck  RCP)
 [email protected] (Sean Nolan)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Federico Heinz)
 [email protected] (Frank Mitchell)
 [email protected] (Larry Gadallah)
 [email protected]_ed.rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)
 [email protected] (Geoff Spradley)
 [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)
 gimli!uniol!tpki!greve!claus (Claus Greve)
 [email protected] (Glenn Reid)
 [email protected] (Matthias Imhof)
 [email protected]
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Graham Stoney)
 [email protected] (Gordon Van Huizen)
 [email protected] (Hans Aafloy)
 [email protected] (Henry McGilton)
 [email protected] (Henry Flurry)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Jim Blevins)
 [email protected]
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (James A. McGilvray)
 [email protected] (John Jay Feiler)
 [email protected] (Joe St Sauver)
 [email protected] (Joe Plassmann)
 [email protected] (John McCracken)
 [email protected] (John Nicol)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Karl Kraft)
 [email protected] (Kurt Bollacker)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Kelley Wittmeyer)
 [email protected] (Rohit Khare)
 [email protected] (Frederick Korz)
 [email protected] (Martin Krause)
 [email protected]
 lafont Denis 
 [email protected] (Jack R. Lawler)
 [email protected] (Larry Fahnoe)
 [email protected] (M Carling)
 [email protected] (Paul Marcos)
 matt%[email protected] (Matthew M. Stecker)
 [email protected]
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (David Li)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Marc G. Frank)
 [email protected] (Michael Brouwer)
 [email protected] (Jeff Cooper)
 [email protected] (Michael D. Stanfill)
 [email protected] (Eric Minch)
 [email protected] (Montgomery Zukowski)
 [email protected] (Mike Bray)
 [email protected] (Mark Stankus)
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Fernando Lopez Lezcano)
 [email protected] (Nathan F. Janette)
 pat%[email protected] (Patrique Lalonde)
 [email protected] (Paul van der Zwan)
 [email protected] (Peter Rossbach)
 [email protected] (Peter Eisch)
 [email protected] (Paul A. Griffin)
 [email protected] (Phillip Zakhour)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Joel Plutchak)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Ralf E. Stranzenbach)
 [email protected] (brunner ralf)
 [email protected]
 richard%[email protected] (Richard Ruth)
 [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
 [email protected] (Robert Urquhart)
 [email protected] (Roberto Arrocha)
 [email protected] (Ruediger Schwarz)
 [email protected] (Henning Rusche)
 [email protected] (Russell Schulz)
 [email protected] (Samuel Choi)
 [email protected] (Scott Hess)
 [email protected] (Scott A. McIntyre)
 sdz01!brocher (Dominic Brocher)
 [email protected] (Marcos Javier Polanco)
 [email protected] (Stefano Pagiola)
 [email protected] (Subrata Sircar)
 [email protected] (Stefan Taxhet)
 [email protected] (Stanley Perkins)
 [email protected] (Stephan Bublava)
 [email protected] (Stu Labovitz)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Sulistio Muljadi)
 [email protected]
 [email protected] (Shawn Willden)
 [email protected] (Ted Slupesky)
 the special FX guy 
 [email protected] (Thomas Funke)
 [email protected] (Howard Brenner)
 [email protected] (Kamlesh Trivedi)
 [email protected] (Wade Blomgren)
 [email protected] (Eric Wampner)
 [email protected] (Don Yacktman)
 [email protected] (Greg Yut)

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                  FINAL VOTE ACK AND VOTE TALLY

The vote for the creation of comp.sys.next.bugs has passed, with
337 votes in favor and 48 votes against.

	337  yes votes
	 48  no votes
	---
	385  total

	337 > 100 + 48  (more than 100 more yes votes than no votes)
	337 > 2/3 * 385 (more than 2/3 of the total votes are in favor)

At the end of this posting is a listing of people from whom I have
received votes, with all "yes" votes listed first, followed by all "no"
votes.  The list is sorted according to the From: line in each vote.
If there are no significant objections to the vote within the next 5 
days, the newsgroup will be created according to the following charter:

comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs.
(unmoderated)

Charter:
With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug
reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade.
This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and
a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all
versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be 
maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made
available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include
known fixes and/or workarounds.

VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE GROUP CREATION:

 08-Dec-1992 1749  
 [email protected] 
  
 @fuug.fi:[email protected] (Sami Kukkonen) 
 A. Chase Turner  
 Adrian Smith  
 Alastair Thomson  
 Alex Honor  
 Alexander Hinds  
 Alexander Lehmann  
 Alexander Rockel  
 Amy McNulty  
 Andreas Haug  
 Andy Newman  
 Anno Siegel  
 Arno Reitz  
 Avery Wang  
 B.J.  13-Nov-1992 1726  
 [email protected] 
 Benoit Grange  
 Bill Nixon  
 Bob Palmer  
 Breck Witte  
 Brian A. Kowal  
 Carrick Talmadge  
 Charles William Swiger  
 Christian Kurrer  
 Christopher D Audley  
 Christopher R. Douty  
 [email protected] 
 Chuck Kincaid  
 Chuck Waltrip  
 Corey Liss  
 [email protected] (Dack) 
 Dan Berry  
 Dan Crimmins  
 [email protected] (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE) 
 Darcy BROCKBANK  
 David Aston  
 David G. Cantor  
 David Jaffe  
 David Meyer  
 [email protected] (David Gursky) 
 Dennis Jespersen  
 Dennis Roseman  
 [email protected] 
 Diego Garcia  
 Dimitri Tischenko  
 Dirk Balfanz  
 Dis  
 Donald J. Siegel  
 Douglas F. DeJulio  
 Dragan Milicic  
 Draphsor vodrun-Aelf  
 Elmar K. Bins  
 Eric Noyau  
 Eric Scott Boltz  
 Eric Thayer  
 Erik Sowa  
 Frank Siegert  
 Fredrik Nyman  
 [email protected] 
 GLENN HOLM  
 George Chow  
 Gerhard_Moeller  
 Gianfranco Pocecai  
 Glenn Brown  
 Gordie Freedman  
 Gordon Clare  
 Gossett  
 Greg Colello  
 Greg Vesper - 520.9  
 Guido Schoepp  
 Gwyn Evans  13-Nov-1992 1707  
 H. Scott Roy  
 H.Schlangmann-Lahner-DA-05/92  
 Harald Lauer  
 [email protected] (Herve Schauer) 
 Ian Daniel  
 Ian Rae  
 Irving_Wolfe  
 J.B. Nicholson-Owens  
 James Grinter  
 Jason Hunsaker  
 Jeff Marshall  
 Jess Anderson  
 Jim Bernatowicz  
 John Robison  
 Juan Collas  
 Kathleen Lamb  
 Kaya Bekiroglu  
 Keith N. Lakeman  
 Kenji Seto  
 Kim Simmons  
 LISZT::bartok::heading%[email protected] 
 [email protected] 
 Larry Blische  
 Lawrence Miller  
 Luke Kendall  
 Marc Millier  
 Mark Adler  
 Mark Wuest  
 Markus Felten  
 Marshall Gilula  
 Martin Imbeck  
 Matthew Seaman  
 Matthias Klose  
 Matthias Zepf  
 Michael Cox  
 Michael D. Sprenger  
 Michael Friendly  
 Michael Giddings  
 Michael Quinn  
 Michael R Conners  
 Mikael Behrens  
 Nick Kline  
 Oliver Geisser  
 Operator  
 Pascal Chesnais  
 Pascal Gaudette  
 Patrick J. LoPresti  
 Paul Lynch  
 Paul Martin Trunz  
 Paul S. Sears  
 Peter Kron  
 Peter Lount  
 Po Shan Cheah  
 Ralf  Weber  
 Ralf Thomas Brunner  
 Ray Spalding  
 Reimer A. Mellin  
 Remi Houdaille  
 Robert Fischer  
 Robert Lutwak  
 Robert Wong  
 [email protected] 
 Roberto Virga  
 Rubricant Horticulturist  
 Russ Beardall  
 [email protected] (Dick Silbar) 
 Scott Robinson  
 Sean Lamont  
 Sebastian Florian Mix  
 Serge J. Goldstein  
 Seth L. Blumberg  
 Stephane Ah-ki  
 Stephen Peters  
 Steve Crutchfield  
 Steve Spicklemire  
 Steven Hinkle  
 Suzanne Woolf  
 [email protected] 
 Terry Gliedt  
 Thomas Fischer  
 Thomas Tschannen  
 Tim Morris-Yates  
 Tim Murdoch  
 Todd A. Keaffaber  
 Tom Limoncelli  
 Tye  
 Ulrich Becker  
 Vince DeMarco  
 Walter R. Innes  
 William J. Murphy  
 Zenon Fortuna  
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Lucas Wagner) 
 al%[email protected] (Andre_Lalonde) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Alex Blakemore) 
 [email protected] (Alex Levine) 
 [email protected] (Andres Mencke) 
 [email protected] (Laurent Amon) 
 [email protected] (Andre Roberge) 
 [email protected] (Annard Brouwer) 
 [email protected] (Antoine Gautier) 
 [email protected] (Ken-ichiro Aoki) 
 [email protected] (Noam H. Arzt) 
 [email protected] (Alois Steindl) 
 [email protected] (Alvin Austin) 
 [email protected] (Brian McElree) 
 [email protected] (Adam Beeman) 
 [email protected] (Bill Smith) 
 [email protected] (Matthew Curtin) 
 [email protected] (Bob Vadnais) 
 [email protected] 
 breck  
 [email protected] (Rodney Price) 
 [email protected] (Robert E. Brown) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Bill Vrotney) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Charles_Spitzer) 
 [email protected] (Chris Amies) 
 [email protected] (Cliff Winnig) 
 [email protected] (Craig Bustrin) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Walter C. Daugherity) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (David Lau) 
 [email protected] (Dean Blakeley MD) 
 [email protected] (Michael Declerck) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Matthew Dillon) 
 [email protected] (David L. Williams) 
 [email protected] (Dmitri Linde) 
 [email protected] (Douglas Scott) 
 [email protected] (Douglas R. Davidson) 
 [email protected] (Dennis W. Ruck) 
 [email protected] (Doug Boyce) 
 [email protected] (Dylan Kohler) 
 [email protected] (Charles Eickelberg) 
 [email protected] (Eric Fronberg) 
 [email protected] (Eric Wespestad) 
 [email protected] (Erland Wittkoetter) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Ted Shuck  RCP) 
 [email protected] (Sean Nolan) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Federico Heinz) 
 [email protected] (Frank Mitchell) 
 [email protected] (Larry Gadallah) 
 [email protected] (Gerard Hill) 
 [email protected]_ed.rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda) 
 [email protected] (Geoff Spradley) 
 [email protected] (Kim Gillies X246) 
 gimli!uniol!tpki!greve!claus (Claus Greve) 
 [email protected] (Glenn Reid) 
 [email protected] (Matthias Imhof) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Graham Stoney) 
 [email protected] (Gordon Van Huizen) 
 [email protected] (Hans Aafloy) 
 [email protected] (Harit) 
 [email protected] (Henry McGilton) 
 [email protected] (Henry Flurry) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Jim Blevins) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (James A. McGilvray) 
 [email protected] (John Jay Feiler) 
 [email protected] (Joe St Sauver) 
 [email protected] (Joe Plassmann) 
 [email protected] (John McCracken) 
 [email protected] (Joseph Goldstone) 
 [email protected] (John Nicol) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Kurt Bollacker) 
 [email protected] (Kelley Wittmeyer) 
 [email protected] (Rohit Khare) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Frederick Korz) 
 [email protected] (Martin Krause) 
 [email protected] 
 lafont Denis  
 [email protected] (Jack R. Lawler) 
 [email protected] (robert w. layhe) 
 [email protected] (Lans_Brahmantyo) 
 [email protected] (Nathan Lee) 
 [email protected] (Larry Fahnoe) 
 [email protected] (Lewis Van Winkle) 
 [email protected] (Michael A. Duke) 
 [email protected] (Marco Benini) 
 [email protected] (Paul Marcos) 
 [email protected] (Mike Matthews) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Scott M. Stark) 
 [email protected] (David Li) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Marc G. Frank) 
 [email protected] (Michael Brouwer) 
 [email protected] (Jeff Cooper) 
 [email protected] (Michael D. Stanfill) 
 [email protected] (Eric Minch) 
 [email protected] (Montgomery Zukowski) 
 [email protected] (Mike Bray) 
 [email protected] (Mark Stankus) 
 [email protected]  
 [email protected]  (Miles McCredie) 
 [email protected] (Fernando Lopez Lezcano) 
 [email protected] (Nathan F. Janette) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Ondro Mihal) 
 pat%[email protected] (Patrique Lalonde) 
 [email protected] (Toby Paterson) 
 [email protected] (Paul van der Zwan) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Peter Rossbach) 
 [email protected] (Peter Eisch) 
 [email protected] (Paul A. Griffin) 
 [email protected] (Philip Craig) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Quentin Scott) 
 [email protected] (Ralf E. Stranzenbach) 
 [email protected] (brunner ralf) 
 [email protected] 
 richard%[email protected] (Richard Ruth) 
 [email protected] (Robert Urquhart) 
 [email protected]cha.charlotte.nc.us (Roberto Arrocha) 
 [email protected] (Ross Donelly) 
 [email protected] (Ruediger Schwarz) 
 [email protected] (Henning Rusche) 
 [email protected] (Russell Schulz) 
 [email protected] (Samuel Choi) 
 [email protected] (Scott Hess) 
 [email protected] (Scott A. McIntyre) 
 sdz01!brocher (Dominic Brocher) 
 [email protected] (Marcos Javier Polanco) 
 [email protected] (Stefano Pagiola) 
 [email protected] (PHill Steven) 
 [email protected] (Stefan Taxhet) 
 [email protected] (Stanley Perkins) 
 [email protected] (Stephan Bublava) 
 [email protected] (Stu Labovitz) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Sulistio Muljadi) 
 [email protected] (Shawn Willden) 
 [email protected] (Ted Slupesky) 
 the special FX guy  
 [email protected] (Thomas Funke) 
 [email protected] (Tom Marchioro) 
 [email protected] (Howard Brenner) 
 [email protected] (Tanming Fang) 
 [email protected] (Tony Rennier) 
 [email protected] (John Starta) 
 [email protected] (Tim Pugh) 
 [email protected] (Timothy Reed) 
 [email protected] (Kamlesh Trivedi) 
 [email protected] (Upasana Immidi) 
 [email protected] (Wade Blomgren) 
 [email protected] (Eric Wampner) 
 [email protected] (Don Yacktman) 
 [email protected] (Greg Yut) 
 [email protected] (Kenneth Zhao) 


VOTES AGAINST THE GROUP CREATION:

 Adrian Smith  
 Andrew Loewenstern  
 Bill Hacker  
 Charles Shub  
 Chris Marble  
 Christian_Paulus  
 Donald Lewine  
 Eric J. Olson  
 Eric Litman  
 Eric Steven Brown  
 Erick Herring  
 Garance A Drosehn  
 Gary K. Jacobs  
 Hubert Delahaye  
 Ivo Welch  
 Jacob Gore  
 Operator  
 Paul F. Kunz  
 R. Matthew Emerson  
 Robert Macfarlane  
 Sven M. Heinicke  
 Thierry Charles  
 Thomas J. Baker  
 Thomas Sams  
 Todd A Green  
 Tony Zamora  
 Vin Licari  
 Wayne P. Rogers  
 [email protected] (Arnaud Weber) 
 [email protected] (Dave Carr) 
 [email protected] (Dan Danz) 
 [email protected] (Lucien Dupont) 
 [email protected] (Ed McGuire) 
 [email protected] (Erik Kraft) 
 [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury) 
 [email protected] (Karl Kraft) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Peter Kocks) 
 [email protected] (M Carling) 
 matt%[email protected] (Matthew M. Stecker) 
 [email protected] (Peter Karbaliotis) 
 [email protected] (Phillip Zakhour) 
 [email protected] 
 [email protected] (Joel Plutchak) 
 [email protected] (Murray Nesbitt) 
 [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) 
 [email protected] (Subrata Sircar) 
 [email protected] 

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