From [email protected] Mon Apr 25 14:15:34 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alain Fontaine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.token-ring,comp.dcom.telecom.tech Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.cabling-sys Followup-To: news.groups Date: 22 Apr 1994 16:22:31 -0400 Organization: Universite Catholique de Louvain Lines: 51 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID:NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4997 news.groups:101656 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:9828 comp.dcom.lans.misc:3280 comp.dcom.lans.fddi:2615 comp.dcom.lans.token-ring:634 comp.dcom.telecom.tech:4011 Proposal for a new newsgroup Proposed by: Alain Fontaine -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group name: comp.dcom.cabling-sys Status: unmoderated Distribution: world-wide Summary: a newsgroup for the discussion of cabling systems for communication JUSTIFICATION: There are several groups in existence where different (local or non-local) network technologies are discussed. While it has been true in the past that each network technology did use a specific type of cabling, the current trend is to wire buildings with some universal cabling system, and then to use newer variations of the established networking technologies (like 10baseT for Ethernet) on that universal cabling. Cabling systems have thus reached a point where they are independent of the network technologies. They have their own standards, including a forthcoming ISO/IEC standard. They should have the same kind of status in the news, as it should be possible to find a place to discuss the issues pertaining to that new discipline, indepedently of any network architecture. CHARTER: The proposed group will provide a forum for the discussion of issues related to the selection, installation and test of cabling systems. Example topics: - cable specifications - connector specifications - structure of cabling sytems - implementation details - test apparatus and procedures for cabling ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please post information for discussion to the news groups (news.groups). ********************************************************************** NOTE This RFD is being issued in concordance with the guidelines set in the "How to create a new usenet newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to this article if you have any questions about the newsgroup creation. From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue May 31 16:08:05 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.dcom.lan.ethernet,comp.dcom.lan.misc,comp.dcom.lan.token-ring,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn Subject: CFV: comp.dcom.cabling Followup-To: poster Date: 31 May 1994 15:50:58 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 68 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 22 Jun 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5142 news.groups:105304 comp.dcom.telecom.tech:4704 comp.dcom.cell-relay:4356 comp.dcom.isdn:5523 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.dcom.cabling Newsgroups line: comp.dcom.cabling Cabling selection, installation and use. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Jun 1994. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group contact Alain Fontaine . CHARTER This group provides a forum for the discussion of issues related to the selection, installation, test and usage of cabling. Example topics: - cable specifications - connector specifications - structure of cabling sytems - implementation details - test apparatus and procedures for cabling - usage of existing cabling for new applications - ISO 11801 Justification: There are several groups in existence where different (local or non-local) network technologies are discussed. While it has been true in the past that each network technology did use a specific type of cabling, the current trend is to wire buildings with some universal cabling system, and then to use newer variations of the established networking technologies (like 10baseT for Ethernet) on that universal cabling. Cabling systems have thus reached a point where they are independent of the network technologies. They have their own standards, including a forthcoming ISO/IEC standard. They should have the same kind of status in the news, as it should be possible to find a place to discuss the issues pertaining to that new discipline, independently of any network architecture. Additionally, the existing cabling must still be maintained and used in the best possible way. The same group would also be a place where more general questions about all cabling issues could be debated. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.dcom.cabling I vote NO on comp.dcom.cabling You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Jun 14 14:40:53 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lan.token-ring,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.dcom.cabling Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 14 Jun 1994 11:59:24 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 74 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 22 Jun 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5196 news.groups:106239 comp.dcom.telecom.tech:5030 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:10868 comp.dcom.lans.misc:3513 comp.dcom.cell-relay:4580 comp.dcom.isdn:5727 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.dcom.cabling Newsgroups line: comp.dcom.cabling Cabling selection, installation and use. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Jun 1994. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group contact Alain Fontaine . CHARTER This group provides a forum for the discussion of issues related to the selection, installation, test and usage of cabling. Example topics: - cable specifications - connector specifications - structure of cabling sytems - implementation details - test apparatus and procedures for cabling - usage of existing cabling for new applications - ISO 11801 Justification: There are several groups in existence where different (local or non-local) network technologies are discussed. While it has been true in the past that each network technology did use a specific type of cabling, the current trend is to wire buildings with some universal cabling system, and then to use newer variations of the established networking technologies (like 10baseT for Ethernet) on that universal cabling. Cabling systems have thus reached a point where they are independent of the network technologies. They have their own standards, including a forthcoming ISO/IEC standard. They should have the same kind of status in the news, as it should be possible to find a place to discuss the issues pertaining to that new discipline, independently of any network architecture. Additionally, the existing cabling must still be maintained and used in the best possible way. The same group would also be a place where more general questions about all cabling issues could be debated. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on comp.dcom.cabling I vote NO on comp.dcom.cabling You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. comp.dcom.cabling Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "John Joseph.Lee"@hng0601.wins.icl.co.uk Tel 069 [email protected] fmsystm!fmsys!macy!telemax.com%wariat.UUCP From [email protected] (RonDippold) Fri Jun 24 11:08:16 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.token-ring,comp.dcom.cell-relay,comp.dcom.isdn Subject: RESULT: comp.dcom.cabling passes 247:20 Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 24 Jun 1994 10:47:14 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 341 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5263 news.groups:107087 comp.dcom.telecom.tech:5344 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:11063 comp.dcom.lans.misc:3559 comp.dcom.lans.token-ring:801 comp.dcom.cell-relay:4713 comp.dcom.isdn:5923 RESULT unmoderated group comp.dcom.cabling passes 247:20 There were 247 YES votes and 20 NO votes, for a total of 267 valid votes. There were 2 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.dcom.cabling Cabling selection, installation and use. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact [email protected]. For questions about the proposed group contact Alain Fontaine . CHARTER This group provides a forum for the discussion of issues related to the selection, installation, test and usage of cabling. Example topics: - cable specifications - connector specifications - structure of cabling sytems - implementation details - test apparatus and procedures for cabling - usage of existing cabling for new applications - ISO 11801 Justification: There are several groups in existence where different (local or non-local) network technologies are discussed. While it has been true in the past that each network technology did use a specific type of cabling, the current trend is to wire buildings with some universal cabling system, and then to use newer variations of the established networking technologies (like 10baseT for Ethernet) on that universal cabling. Cabling systems have thus reached a point where they are independent of the network technologies. They have their own standards, including a forthcoming ISO/IEC standard. They should have the same kind of status in the news, as it should be possible to find a place to discuss the issues pertaining to that new discipline, independently of any network architecture. Additionally, the existing cabling must still be maintained and used in the best possible way. The same group would also be a place where more general questions about all cabling issues could be debated. comp.dcom.cabling Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Alex Bulan [email protected] Nigel Allen [email protected] Asi Kotiharju [email protected] Al Berg [email protected] Cell-Relay Gopher Janitor [email protected] [email protected] Eric Anderson [email protected] Andras Salamon [email protected] Andy Davis [email protected] Angela Glinos [email protected] Anthony Hayes [email protected] Arttu Laine [email protected] Jim Ault [email protected] amit agarwal [email protected] Bryan A. Ackermann [email protected] BARR DOUG [email protected] Bryan D. Boyle [email protected] Brian Del Vecchio [email protected] bill hughes [email protected] Bill Rohde Bill=Wen%OS=Quality%[email protected] [email protected] Shag Aristotelis [email protected] B.J. Herbison [email protected] Bob Siegel [email protected] Ben R. Adams [email protected] Bram Smits [email protected] Brian Carpenter CERN-CN [email protected] Brian K. Uechi MIS HNL 808-625-3158 [email protected] Bruce Taylor [email protected] $ Burkhard Kohl [email protected] William Ward [email protected] Charles Spurgeon [email protected] [email protected] Ian Bridge [email protected] Frazer Greig, University of Abertay Dundee [email protected] Jerry Schave (Network Planner) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Chris Neustrup [email protected] Christophe Huygens [email protected] Claude Wacker [email protected] Chris Stamper [email protected] Todd Colvard [email protected] [email protected] Matthew Crosby [email protected] Danny Thomas [email protected] Steve Daley [email protected] Dan Busarow [email protected] David E. Nissen [email protected] Dave Stoddard [email protected] Dave Clark [email protected] Bill Davidsen [email protected] David Campbell - CCVSC [email protected] Don Jackson [email protected] David Conner [email protected] David E. Martin [email protected] Dave Geurs [email protected] Demosthenes Panagopoulos [email protected] Ingo Dollbaum [email protected] Steven J Dorst [email protected] Harold A. Driscoll [email protected] Dale Smith [email protected] Mike Durkin [email protected] Duco W. Weytze [email protected] Sunil S Apte [email protected] Not *him* again! 286-3047 [email protected] Evan Gamblin [email protected] Elaine Lai [email protected] Rick Ellis [email protected] Julie K. Stahlhut [email protected] Earl Perkins [email protected] Fieldhouse Dirk fmsystm!fmsys!macy!telemax.com%wariat.UUCP [email protected] Alain Fontaine [email protected] Steve Ford [email protected] Stephen J. Friedl [email protected] Fabrice GAILLARD [email protected] Dave Shariff Yadallee [email protected] Gary Brown [email protected] Gary Brooke [email protected] George Ross [email protected] Dan Gilliam [email protected] David C Gingrich [email protected] Norman Goetz [email protected] Ivo Clarysse [email protected] Jeff Hakner [email protected] Jeff Hancock [email protected] James Hayes * [email protected] Javier Henderson - VMS System Mangler [email protected] Tom Stephens [email protected] Gene Hertel (415)725-4528 [email protected] Jonathan B Horen [email protected] Heiko Rath [email protected] Helen Trillian Rose [email protected] [email protected] Harold Hankins [email protected] Kees van der Wal [email protected] mary-frances jagod [email protected] Spencer Jackson [email protected] [email protected] Jan Hinnerk Haul [email protected] [email protected] John Bass [email protected] John Chambers [email protected] John C. Simpson [email protected] John Dalton [email protected] Jon Dugan [email protected] Jeremy Elson [email protected] Jennine Townsend [email protected] Jack Homa [email protected] Jim Jaworski [email protected] Jeffrey J. Carpenter [email protected] johannes joosten [email protected] joe dagher "John Joseph.Lee"@hng0601.wins.icl.co.uk Tel 069 [email protected] John Hascall [email protected] John Kalucki [email protected] [email protected] Jon Dunn [email protected] Kenny Adams [email protected] Kalpesh Unadkat [email protected] Dieter Kasielke [email protected] Kevin Baradet [email protected] Kenji Rikitake [email protected] Tom Kennedy [email protected] Kevin Collins [email protected] KNAPP [email protected] Henriecus Koeman [email protected] Steven Grimm [email protected] Lau Kwong Tak [email protected] Jean-Pierre Kuypers [email protected] Lars Gudiksen [email protected] Martin Schroeder [email protected] Dan Lacey [email protected] Andrew Laurence [email protected] Luiz Cunha [email protected] Lee Havemann [email protected] Aaron Leonard [email protected] Leroy Lacy [email protected] Les LaCroix [email protected] Laurence Si [email protected] Luciano Mannucci [email protected] Mark I. Williams [email protected] Mark A. Cnota [email protected] Andy Malis [email protected] Marc Gumbold [email protected] Mark Miller [email protected] Mark Wood [email protected] Mathias Koerber [email protected] Matthew Geier [email protected] [email protected] Mike Northam [email protected] Martin Weiss [email protected] Michael Coxe [email protected] Michael J Kovacs [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] Martin A.R. Munro [email protected] Wilson Mohr [email protected] Stephen Cristol [email protected] Mark Powell [email protected] David Muir Sharnoff [email protected] [email protected] Number 6 [email protected] Norbert Hanke [email protected] NLK Consultants [email protected] Norm Bartek [email protected] Bruce Orchard [email protected] Reed Olson [email protected] Oystein Homelien [email protected] John M. King [email protected] John Powell [email protected] Rod Morrill [email protected] phil reed [email protected] Burchfield Michael [email protected] [email protected] Patrick Clark [email protected] Paul Robinson [email protected] Paul Walker [email protected] Phil Packer [email protected] Eladio D. Perez [email protected] Kent Phelps [email protected] Philippe Cheve [email protected] Pierre Bernatchez [email protected] La Monte Yarroll [email protected] Doug Plate [email protected] Paul Mensch [email protected] Armin Pollak [email protected] puma [email protected] Michael J. Quinn [email protected] Ramesh Viswanathan [email protected] Ralph Becker [email protected] [email protected] Bryan Reece [email protected] Rex Sanders [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] Riku Saikkonen [email protected] Richard James [email protected] Ry Jones [email protected] Roger Schwentker [email protected] Ron Holt [email protected] Ross Mitton [email protected] KEVIN ROWLAND [email protected] Ron Pike [email protected] Robert Thona [email protected] Russell Campbell [email protected] THE PRINCE SAGARG%[email protected] Saurabh Garg [email protected] Samuel Dennis at Netlab [email protected] simon hobson [email protected] Chris Spinolo [email protected] Stef Van Dessel [email protected] Steve Entwistle [email protected] Stuart Brainerd [email protected] Steve Webert [email protected] [email protected] Brian Chase [email protected] Tan Wea Aik [email protected] Tom Glodowski [email protected] Tomi H Engdahl [email protected] Matt Thomas [email protected] Stu Thomason [email protected] Robert B. Thompson (727-2597 x3012) [email protected] Tom Maufer [email protected] Albert Van de Paar [email protected] Mike Treseler [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Paul Siu [email protected] Joyce Iannuzzi [email protected] Gary Howard [email protected] Jason Verch [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Bruno Viaris [email protected] [email protected] David Lesher [email protected] DE KERPEL SVEN [email protected] Mark Paine [email protected] Richard F. Weyand [email protected] Bill Feidt [email protected] Martin J.G. Williams [email protected] Wipat SRUTIPROM [email protected] Chris Wysocki [email protected] Youngok Rhee Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Stefan Antersberger [email protected] Chris "Now uses a mac" Jackson [email protected] [email protected] Chris Payne [email protected] CONT C.T. Ward [Chris] [email protected] John Evans [email protected] Sean P. Ryan [email protected] Roger H}kansson [email protected] Jeremy Grodberg [email protected] [email protected] John R. MacWilliamson [email protected] [email protected] Siamak Ansari [email protected] Smarasderagd [email protected] Dwight Brown [email protected] Stu Labovitz [email protected] Tom Bleakney [email protected] Andrew R. Tefft [email protected] DAVE GUGLIELMI [email protected] Ward F. Bush Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] PSI dte is down ! Invalid address [email protected] System Administrator ! Invalid address
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