From [email protected] Mon May 16 21:47:17 1994
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From: [email protected] (Tim Wadham)
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Subject: RFD: rec.arts.books.childrens
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I would like to propose the creation of a newsgroup called

rec.arts.books.childrens

Why this newsgroup?
The amount of traffic on rec.arts.books is getting very heavy.  I note
after reading it for several weeks that the volume of postings
specifically regarding children's books is sufficient that it would merit
a seperate group, and thereby also reduce traffic on rec.arts.books to a
more managable level.  Also, children's books are a legitimate area for
discussion on their own merits.  We're not talking kiddie lit here.  I
envision the tenor of the discussion would be similar to what is currently
seen on rec.arts.books.  I am open to discussion of any variation of the
name and a charter.  It's time to give children's books their due on the
net.  
-- 
Tim Wadham, Asst. Manager/Children's Librarian
Polk-Wisdom Library
7151 Library Ln.
Dallas, Texas, 75232

From [email protected] Wed Jul 20 20:26:36 1994
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From: [email protected] (Peter G. Berger, Esq.)
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Subject: CFV: rec.arts.books.children
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
              unmoderated group rec.arts.books.children

Newsgroups line:

rec.arts.books.children		All aspects of children's literature.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Aug 1994.

This CFV will also be posted to the [email protected],
kidlit-l@bingvmb, and childlit@rutvm1 mailing lists.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Peter G. Berger, Esq. .
For questions about the proposed group contact Tim Wadham
[email protected].

CHARTER

The unmoderated newsgroup rec.arts.books.children will be open to
discussion of all aspects of children's literature.
Topics for discussion in the group will include, but not be limited to:
- book reviews
- authors
- discussion of issues raised by books.

The need for this newsgroup is clear.  The traffic on rec.arts.books
related to children's literature, is sufficient to warrant a separate
newsgroup.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to: [email protected] 
Just replying should work if you are _not_ reading this on a mailing list.  

Fill in the blank between the brackets with one of: ABSTAIN, CANCEL,
NO, or YES.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
rec.arts.books.children Ballot     (Don't remove this)

Give your real name here:
If you do not give your real name your vote will be rejected.

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  rec.arts.books.children
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] Thu Aug  4 15:39:24 1994
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                      SECOND CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
              unmoderated group rec.arts.books.children

Newsgroups line:

rec.arts.books.children		All aspects of children's literature.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Aug 1994.

This CFV will also be posted to the [email protected],
kidlit-l@bingvmb, and childlit@rutvm1 mailing lists.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Peter G. Berger, Esq. .
For questions about the proposed group contact Tim Wadham
[email protected].

CHARTER

The unmoderated newsgroup rec.arts.books.children will be open to
discussion of all aspects of children's literature.
Topics for discussion in the group will include, but not be limited to:
- book reviews
- authors
- discussion of issues raised by books.

The need for this newsgroup is clear.  The traffic on rec.arts.books
related to children's literature, is sufficient to warrant a separate
newsgroup.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to: [email protected] 
Just replying should work if you are _not_ reading this on a mailing list.  

Fill in the blank between the brackets with one of: ABSTAIN, CANCEL,
NO, or YES.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
rec.arts.books.children Ballot     (Don't remove this)

Give your real name here:
If you do not give your real name your vote will be rejected.

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  rec.arts.books.children
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                      Carolyn 
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                       Anne Schreivogl
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[email protected]                                                 David Conner
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[email protected]                                   Madeline Buchanan
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[email protected]                                              Denise Rinaldo
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[email protected]                                           Evelyn B. Comstock
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[email protected]                                     Judith Meskill
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[email protected]                                         Kathleen Baxter
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[email protected]                                             Marianne Mahoney
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   ! No name given
[email protected]                                  Sharon Kay Brubaker
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[email protected]                                                               
   ! No ballot

From [email protected] Tue Aug 16 17:29:21 1994
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From: [email protected] (Peter G. Berger, Esq.)
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Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.books.children passes 257:13
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			            RESULT
           unmoderated group rec.arts.books.children passes 257:13

There were 257 YES votes and 13 NO votes, for a total of 270 valid votes. 
There were 22 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
rec.arts.books.children Final Vote Ack


Newsgroups line:

rec.arts.books.children		All aspects of children's literature.

This CFV will also be posted to the [email protected],
kidlit-l@bingvmb, and childlit@rutvm1 mailing lists.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Peter G. Berger, Esq. .
For questions about the proposed group contact Tim Wadham
[email protected].

CHARTER

The unmoderated newsgroup rec.arts.books.children will be open to
discussion of all aspects of children's literature.
Topics for discussion in the group will include, but not be limited to:
- book reviews
- authors
- discussion of issues raised by books.

The need for this newsgroup is clear.  The traffic on rec.arts.books
related to children's literature, is sufficient to warrant a separate
newsgroup.


Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                                Aaron Priven
[email protected]                                 Arthur B. Byrne
[email protected]                                         Andrew Cochran
[email protected]                                          Andrew Mossberg
[email protected]                                                   Amy Sheldon
[email protected]                                               Alan Thatcher
[email protected]                                          Anne Louise Gockel
[email protected]                                            Anita Easton
[email protected]                                           Anita Graham
[email protected]                                           Anne Kari Sorknes
[email protected]                         Stefan Antersberger
[email protected]                                 User - Andy Sosnowski
[email protected]                                Audra Russell
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                                AVISHAI HALEVY
[email protected]                                          Andrew V. Kovalev
[email protected]                                             Brian C. Monsell
[email protected]                  Robert Floyd Benningfield Jr.
[email protected]                                        Bonita Kale
[email protected]                                       Barbara Fiehn
[email protected]                                        Bill Linder
[email protected]                                           Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                  Sharon Breeggemann
[email protected]                                      Brian Gallagher
[email protected]                                            Bryan Hughes
[email protected]                                                     William Denton
[email protected]                                            Eric C. Carlson
[email protected]                                                Cobus Rabe
[email protected]                                     Cathy Burnsed
[email protected]                                           William Ching
[email protected]                                Christina L. Smith
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                     Corinna Mergelsberg
[email protected]                                               Cecil N. Jones
[email protected]                                            Deborah Conrad
[email protected]                                                 David Cromwell
[email protected]                                   Matthew Crosby
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                   Carl Witty
[email protected]                                  Richard N Kitchen
[email protected]                                         Dallas Raymond Waite
[email protected]                                         Daniel A. Walker
[email protected]                        Dwight Eggers ([email protected])
[email protected]                                                  Kris Da Deng
[email protected]                                            Laura de Leon
[email protected]                                        David Jonas Murphy
[email protected]                                         David K. Brown
[email protected]                                               Diane C. Lin
[email protected]                                          David Macfarlane
[email protected]                                               Laura Dolson
[email protected]                                               Donald Colby
[email protected]                                                Rich Gibson
[email protected]                                                 Diane Palme
[email protected]                                           Donald L. Yarman
[email protected]                                            Le-Ming Chou
[email protected]                             Gregory W. Edwards
[email protected]                                                  Beth Mitcham
[email protected]                                        Charles Seaton
[email protected]                                      Eric Roberts
[email protected]                                                        Evan Hunt
[email protected]                                       Roxanne Hsu Feldman
[email protected]                                        Anne Fearnley
[email protected]                                       Scott Federhen
[email protected]                                             Fred Schenkelberg
[email protected]                             Frederick Zimmerman
[email protected]                                           Per Aarne Fritzon
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                                        Gerald
[email protected]                                              Gabe Helou
[email protected]                                                      Guus Bosch
[email protected]                                           George B. Smith
[email protected]                                     Gail Gurman
[email protected]                                       George Heretz
[email protected]                                               Margaret Gibbs
[email protected]                                                   Gil Neiger
[email protected]                                       Bill Godfrey
[email protected]                                             M. L. Grant
[email protected]                                                   Margaret Ward
[email protected]                                           Jonathan Grobe
[email protected]                                      Brennan T. Price
[email protected]                                                 Darryl Hamson
[email protected]                                          Hugh E Secker-Walker
[email protected]                                                    Ben Hurwitz
[email protected]                                                 Buffy Hyler
[email protected]                                       E. H. Irving
[email protected]                                      James Langdell
[email protected]              Julie James 
[email protected]                                       James Stansell
[email protected]                                       James Chokey
[email protected]                                           Jennifer A. Robinson
[email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt
[email protected]                                            Jimmy Sheldon
[email protected]                                                 Jim Mann
[email protected]                                        James P, Mc Bride
[email protected]                                               Jose M. daLuz
[email protected]                                                    Jeffrey M. Marsh
[email protected]                                           Joseph Shaw
[email protected]                                                  John Hascall
[email protected]                                      Jane E. Patterson
[email protected]                                       J. Porter Clark
[email protected]                                                        Jay Sekora
[email protected]                                              June S. Cummins
[email protected]                                   Janice Smith
[email protected]                                         James T. Hoppers
[email protected]                                         Judith Hyland
[email protected]                                      Julia Rodriguez
[email protected]                                                        grub
[email protected]                                  Margaret Kelliher
[email protected]                                         Keith Gatling
[email protected]                                Khantipol Kasemsant
[email protected]                                              Kenneth Herron
[email protected]                                     Kristen Lofgren
[email protected]                                       Kristine Phipps
[email protected]                                                   Kate Sanders
[email protected]                                        Martin Schr"oder
[email protected]                                         Lance A. Brown
[email protected]                                               Lari Howard
[email protected]                                      Larry Moorhead
[email protected]                                         Laura Gillespie
[email protected]                                       Laura Johnson
[email protected]                                              Laura J. Morrison
[email protected]                                             Lawrence Tagrin
[email protected]                                      Leanne Archer
[email protected]                                                  Inho Lee
[email protected]                                          Lee Borkman
[email protected]                                                 Lee Burchfield
[email protected]                                      Larry Gainor
[email protected]                                      Laura E Jensen
[email protected]                                               Lynda Feng
[email protected]                                   Laurence Neil Hammer
[email protected]                                                lauren p. burka
[email protected]                                          Becca Sexton
[email protected]                                        Lynne Jeffers
[email protected]                                     Mary Ann Champion
[email protected]                                              Mark Forrester
[email protected]                                         Maggie Cain
[email protected]                                              Scott Grandi
[email protected]                                                      Mark Lieu
[email protected]                                   Andrew G. Malis
[email protected]                                                Mary Kay Feltes
[email protected]                     Chris Marshall (Argonne National Lab)
[email protected]                                           Matt Harrington
[email protected]                                       Mark Atwood
[email protected]                                                   Shelly May
[email protected]                                              Mark Burgess
[email protected]                                                   Martha B. Walsh 
[email protected]                                             Mary M. Conroy
[email protected]                                   Mary Ann Dimand
[email protected]                              Michael D. Martin
[email protected]                                          Melynda Reid
[email protected]                                           Markus Freericks
[email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb
[email protected]                                            Mary-Anne G. Wolf
[email protected]                                           Mike Fieschko
[email protected]                                          Salomon Minkin
[email protected]                                       Michelle Dunnigan
[email protected]                                  Mary Tyler Knowles
[email protected]                                               Myra Wong
[email protected]                                               Mary Lauer
[email protected]                                             Celia H. Modell
[email protected]                                     James Moehrke
[email protected]                                             Esther C. Filderman
[email protected]                                            Janet Morrissey
[email protected]                                             Marilyn Mosher
[email protected]                                       Amy Mossman
[email protected]                                                Mark Taranto
[email protected]                                                  Mike Blades
[email protected]                                        Michael Wojcik
[email protected]                                            Meg Worley
[email protected]                                             Nan Ellman
[email protected]                                  Randolph Finder
[email protected]                                           Nathanel Barlow
[email protected]                                                     Nigel Allen
[email protected]                                            Neal Bauer
[email protected]                                               Charles E. Bush
[email protected]                                     Nils Nieuwejaar
[email protected]                           Dale Gerdemann
[email protected]                 J.L'Abbe, Teacher-Librarian, Newmarket H.S.
[email protected]                                              Jessica Litman
[email protected]                                           Mary Ellen Curtin
[email protected]                                          Palo Alto City Library
[email protected]                                             Parnell Hall
[email protected]                                       Kathy Dee Zasloff
[email protected]                                     Paula E. Burch
[email protected]                                        Peter T. Lin
[email protected]                                             Peter Davis
[email protected]                                        Tom Petrella
[email protected]                                        Nicholas Shectman
[email protected]                                              Phil Ritari
[email protected]                                    God's Dad's kid
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                               Peter Lamb
[email protected]                                    Michelle Mader
[email protected]                                      Michael Quinn
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Crowley
[email protected]                                               Diane Reese
[email protected]                                                Anne Wasserman
[email protected]                                                  Mark Richer
[email protected]                                        Bill Riggs
[email protected]                                       Riku Saikkonen
[email protected]                                            Rich Carreiro
[email protected]                                               Ron Newman
[email protected]                                                Robyn Kozierok
[email protected]                                    Roland P. Sauermann
[email protected]                                                  Dena Rollo
[email protected]                                                    Ronnie Kon
[email protected]                                        Bill Pfeiffer
[email protected]                                                Bob Shuster
[email protected]                                  Randy Kaelber
[email protected]                                          Roger Squires
[email protected]                                                J. Rufinus
[email protected]                                                Salit Levy Gazit
[email protected]                                                      Andy Oakland 
[email protected]                                          Don Sawtelle
[email protected]                                Mary Margaret Schuck
[email protected]                               Christina Schulman
[email protected]                                       Scott Philben
[email protected]                                       Susan Forsling
[email protected]                                              Martin Azevedo
[email protected]                                      Robert H. Sloan
[email protected]                                         Donna Slonim
[email protected]                                              Scott G. McGuire
[email protected]                                     Stella M. Seal
[email protected]                                         Steffan O'Sullivan
[email protected]                                          Susan Stan
[email protected]                                               Sue Stigleman
[email protected]                                                 Andy Kwong
[email protected]                                        Sascha Wildner
[email protected]                                                Scott Symes
[email protected]                                            Thomas B. Smith
[email protected]                                             Simon Hughes
[email protected]                                                 Ted Swift
[email protected]                             Lani Teshima-Miller
[email protected]                                                  Thornton Ege
[email protected]                                            Eric Paul Gjovaag
[email protected]                                                 Tim McNerney
[email protected]                                    Bruce Tindall
[email protected]                                          Tara L. Rivera
[email protected]                                               Glenn Trewitt
[email protected]                                   Troy Shahoumian
[email protected]                                            Mark Richardson
[email protected]                                             David Zatz
[email protected]                                     Connie K. Varnhagen
[email protected]                                      Justin Broughton
[email protected]                                              Victoria Neff
[email protected]                                               Pat Hanby
[email protected]                                          Donald Watrous
[email protected]                                     Wendy Alberg
[email protected]                                                  Wendy E. Betts
[email protected]                                             Nancy Werlin
[email protected]                                        Anne Hill Wiebe
[email protected]                                       Richard Willmore
[email protected]                                              Danielle Mahlum
[email protected]                                               Michele Worley
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                                Chris Hammock

Voted No
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[email protected]                                                Andrew Dinn
[email protected]                                                Beth Vail Jones
[email protected]                                       Chris Jackson
[email protected]                             Kenneth P. Crouch
egbert%[email protected]                                      Egbert Hinzen
[email protected]                                                Hansen, Robert
[email protected]                                           gerard macchi
[email protected]                                           Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                                 Maxime Taksar
[email protected]                                                Richard Miller
[email protected]                                            Randy S. Miller
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                      Carolyn 
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                       Anne Schreivogl
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                                  Becky Levine
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                    
   ! No name given
[email protected]                                                 David Conner
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                   Madeline Buchanan
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                              Denise Rinaldo
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                           Evelyn B. Comstock
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                    Irene Munger Grubbs
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                        
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                     Judith Meskill
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                                          
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                                             
   ! No name given
[email protected]                                         Kathleen Baxter
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                Linda Sue York
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                             Marianne Mahoney
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                    
   ! No name given
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   ! No name given
[email protected]                                  Sharon Kay Brubaker
   ! No ballot
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   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                       Scott Vogelsang
   ! No ballot