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From [email protected] Wed May 11 14:58:55 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (George H. Bosworth) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.unix.misc Subject: RFD: comp.org.uniforum Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 May 1994 19:55:58 -0400 Organization: UniForum Association Lines: 49 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5057 news.groups:103126 comp.org.ieee:2752 comp.org.sug:1183 comp.org.usenix:5197 comp.unix.misc:14129                    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION           Group Name:  comp.org.uniforum              Status:  unmoderated        Distribution:  world-wide             Summary:  Newsgroup for announcements by and discussion                       about UniForum Association         Proposed by:  George Bosworth ([email protected])                       UniForum member # 5069  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.org.uniforum.  BACKGROUND  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association located in Santa Clara, CA.  UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in '94 had over 1,600 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relation with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.   CHARTER  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters.  In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name of comp.org.uniforum already.  The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will facilitate access to UniForum information around the world.  This is NOT a call for votes. Barring a need for a second RFD, the Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted approximately 21 to 30 days from now. I intend to ask an independent third party to run the vote.  This RFD has been posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, comp.org.usenix, and comp.unix.misc. Post any discussion about this RFD to news.groups.  This RFD has been posted in accordance with the 'Requirements for Group Creation' in 'Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation.' Its format is based on those of several earlier RFDs.  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue May 31 16:08:15 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.unix.misc Subject: CFV: comp.org.uniforum Followup-To: poster Date: 31 May 1994 15:51:08 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 56 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 22 Jun 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5143 news.groups:105305 comp.org.ieee:2834 comp.org.sug:1191 comp.org.usenix:5258 comp.unix.misc:14337                            FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                      unmoderated group comp.org.uniforum  Newsgroups line: Group name: comp.org.uniforum	Discussion of UniForum Association matters.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Jun 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact George Bosworth <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters.  In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  RATIONALE  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association located in Santa Clara, CA.  UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in '94 had over 1,600 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relation with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name of comp.org.uniforum already.  The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will facilitate access to UniForum information around the world.   HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:       I vote YES on comp.org.uniforum       I vote NO on comp.org.uniforum  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Jun 14 14:40:58 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.unix.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.org.uniforum Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 14 Jun 1994 11:59:39 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 63 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 22 Jun 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: [email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5197 news.groups:106240 comp.org.ieee:2868 comp.org.sug:1197 comp.org.usenix:5329 comp.unix.misc:14512                            LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                      unmoderated group comp.org.uniforum  Newsgroups line: Group name: comp.org.uniforum   Discussion of UniForum Association matters.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 Jun 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact George Bosworth <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters.  In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  RATIONALE  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association located in Santa Clara, CA.  UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in '94 had over 1,600 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relation with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name of comp.org.uniforum already.  The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will facilitate access to UniForum information around the world.   HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:       I vote YES on comp.org.uniforum       I vote NO on comp.org.uniforum  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.    comp.org.uniforum Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                       Brian Raymond [email protected]                                          Michael S. Cross  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Fri Jun 24 11:08:21 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix,comp.unix.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.org.uniforum fails 98:14 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 24 Jun 1994 10:50:16 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 179 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5264 news.groups:107088 comp.org.ieee:2903 comp.org.sug:1201 comp.org.usenix:5410 comp.unix.misc:14634  				RESULT 	   unmoderated group comp.org.uniforum fails 98:14  There were 98 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 112 valid votes.  There was 1 abstain and 2 invalid ballots.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.   There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may not be voted on again for six months.   Newsgroups line: Group name: comp.org.uniforum   Discussion of UniForum Association matters.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact George Bosworth <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters.  In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  RATIONALE  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association located in Santa Clara, CA.  UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in '94 had over 1,600 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relation with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name of comp.org.uniforum already.  The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will facilitate access to UniForum information around the world.   comp.org.uniforum Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                           Chuck Abrams [email protected]                                        Anthony DeBoer [email protected]                                                 Andras Salamon [email protected]                                                     Ann Comey [email protected]                                               Alene Kercheval [email protected]                                                     Asa Romberger [email protected]                                                    Jim Ault [email protected]                                                          [email protected]                                    Michael G. Beirne BELL_JIM/[email protected]                                         [email protected]                                               Beverly Winland [email protected]                                                           Bikes [email protected]                                               Bill Campbell [email protected]                                               Bill Gunshannon [email protected]                                       Shag Aristotelis [email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison [email protected]                                             Doug Blair [email protected]                                               Bob Piety [email protected]                                     Brenda Lobb [email protected]                                       Brian Raymond [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                                                              [email protected]                                     Christopher Samuel [email protected]                      Chris "Now uses a mac" Jackson [email protected]                                         Chris Stamper [email protected]                                    CONT C.T. Ward [Chris] [email protected]                                                  Dan Smith [email protected]                                                 David Conner [email protected]                         Dean W. Bettinger (315/443-1070) [email protected]                                                 Dick Shippee [email protected]                                     Donald L. Ritchey [email protected]                                                   Don Dugdale [email protected]                                    Harold A. Driscoll [email protected]                                                      [email protected]                                                  Eric Beaudoin [email protected]                                                 Ed Borkovsky [email protected]                                                   Ellie Young [email protected]                                  Julie K. Stahlhut [email protected]                                                    Erni Wade [email protected]                                    Scott Menter [email protected]                                               Evan Brown [email protected]                                                                 [email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee [email protected]                  the wireless terminal of Geoff Goodfellow [email protected]                                          George H. Bosworth [email protected]                                                 Paul Gerwitz [email protected]                                                Georges Schild [email protected]                                                    Jaci Wilson [email protected]                                               J. B. Chambers [email protected]                                          Joao Carlos Neves [email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt [email protected]                                               Jose M. daLuz [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                                             John Hine [email protected]                                                             [email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder [email protected]                                         Laura Gillespie [email protected]                                              Michael A. Casteel [email protected]                                          Maggie Lee [email protected]                                                    CYBERMAN [email protected]                                          Mike Gruen [email protected]                                                    Michael Tilson [email protected]                                      Dan Mosedale [email protected]                                           Marshall Rose [email protected]                                   Marjorie R. Stamper [email protected]                                          Michael S. Cross [email protected]                                  David Muir Sharnoff [email protected]                                       [email protected]                                              Michael Odawa [email protected]                                            Othar Hansson [email protected]                                                     Paul Robinson [email protected]                                            Bill Dixon [email protected]                                                   Patrick Glenn [email protected]                                               Paul Hoffman [email protected]                               La Monte Yarroll [email protected]                                      Paul M. Cardon [email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn [email protected]                                                             [email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller [email protected]                                         Robert A. Boucher [email protected]                                   Roger Schwentker [email protected]                                             THE PRINCE [email protected]                                         Bahram Gorgon Saghari [email protected]                                             Motoyuki 'mos' Sano [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                              Shirley Neve [email protected]                                                Siamak Ansari [email protected]                                                     Ron Sidell [email protected]                                                          [email protected]                                   Steve Smoot [email protected]                                               Susan Hoffmann [email protected]                                  SZALEWSK.US.ORACLE.COM [email protected]                                                Robert Averack [email protected]                                                      Ted Logan [email protected]                                                     Tina Sikorski [email protected]                                                 Upul Jayasekera [email protected]                                            Jason Verch [email protected]                               Contr Karl E. Vogel  Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                         Stefan Antersberger [email protected]                                             Andreas Polzer [email protected]                                        Allen Condit [email protected]                                               [email protected]                                        Chris Payne [email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan [email protected]                                              Roger H}kansson [email protected]                                   mary-frances  jagod [email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson [email protected]                                          Julian Macassey [email protected]                                            Peter Berger [email protected]                                         Smarasderagd [email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown [email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush  Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                                Bulletin Board    ! Invalid address [email protected]                                                         sybase    ! Invalid address  From [email protected] Fri Apr 14 17:41:21 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (George H. Bosworth) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix Subject: RFD: comp.org.uniforum Followup-To: news.groups Date: 11 Apr 1995 18:05:45 -0400 Organization: netcom.com Lines: 49 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6588 news.groups:144332 comp.org.ieee:3754 comp.org.sug:1335 comp.org.usenix:6153                    REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION           Group Name:  comp.org.uniforum              Status:  unmoderated        Distribution:  world-wide             Summary:  Newsgroup for announcements by and discussion                       about UniForum Association         Proposed by:  George Bosworth ([email protected])                       UniForum member # 5069  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.org.uniforum.  BACKGROUND  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association located in Santa Clara, CA.  UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in '94 had over 1,600 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relation with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  CHARTER  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters.  In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name of comp.org.uniforum already.  The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will facilitate access to UniForum information around the world.  This is NOT a call for votes. Barring a need for a second RFD, the Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted approximately 21 to 30 days from now. I intend to ask an independent third party to run the vote.  This RFD has been posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix. Post any discussion about this RFD to news.groups.  This RFD has been posted in accordance with the 'Requirements for Group Creation' in 'Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation.' Its format is based on those of several earlier RFDs.  From [email protected] Tue Jun  6 00:07:09 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix Subject: CFV: comp.org.uniforum Followup-To: poster Date: 30 May 1995 16:33:38 -0400 Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/ Lines: 88 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 21 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6952 news.groups:151770 comp.org.ieee:3871 comp.org.sug:1350 comp.org.usenix:6198  		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) 		 unmoderated group comp.org.uniforum  Newsgroups line: comp.org.uniforum	UniForum Association activities.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 June 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact Jonathan Kamens <[email protected]> (the votetaker).  For questions about the proposed group contact George H. Bosworth <[email protected]> (the proponent).  RATIONALE/ADDITIONAL NOTES  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name comp.org.uniforum already. The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will faciliate access to UniForum information around the world.  This CFV will be posted separately to comp.org.uniforum so that readers of the bogus newsgroup are made aware that it is bogus and that a vote is being conducted to make it legitimate.  CHARTER  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association in Santa Clara CA. UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in 1995 has over 1,800 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relations with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters. In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: 	vote comp.org.uniforum YES 	vote comp.org.uniforum NO   IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  You should receive an automatic acknowledgement of your vote within three days.  If you do not, contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.)  In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.  If you give anyone a copy of the CFV, it must be whole and unmodified.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.   OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV  The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted by the votetaker, including news.announce.newgroups, and the votetaker.  --  Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email protected]  From [email protected] Mon Jun 12 13:33:56 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.org.uniforum Followup-To: poster Date: 12 Jun 1995 13:05:58 -0400 Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/ Lines: 95 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 21 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7043 news.groups:153335 comp.org.ieee:3905 comp.org.sug:1360 comp.org.usenix:6222  		     SECOND CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) 		 unmoderated group comp.org.uniforum  Newsgroups line: comp.org.uniforum	UniForum Association activities.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 June 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact Jonathan Kamens <[email protected]> (the votetaker).  For questions about the proposed group contact George H. Bosworth <[email protected]> (the proponent).  RATIONALE/ADDITIONAL NOTES  Some sites carry a bogus newsgroup by the name comp.org.uniforum already. The official creation of comp.org.uniforum according to agreed Usenet procedures will faciliate access to UniForum information around the world.  The first CFV for this group said that it would be posted separately to comp.org.uniforum so that readers of the bogus newsgroup are made aware that it is bogus and that a vote is being conducted to make it legitimate.  However, I (i.e., the votetaker) did not do that reposting because I discovered that I would have had to repost the CFV to some other widely circulated group for it to propagate to sites that carry comp.org.uniforum, and because further research indicated that the number of sites carrying comp.org.uniforum is apparently very low.  CHARTER  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association in Santa Clara CA. UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in 1995 has over 1,800 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relations with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters. In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.  HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: 	vote comp.org.uniforum YES 	vote comp.org.uniforum NO   IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  You should receive an automatic acknowledgement of your vote within three days.  If you do not, contact the votetaker about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.)  In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.  If you give anyone a copy of the CFV, it must be whole and unmodified.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.   OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV  The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted by the votetaker, including news.announce.newgroups, and the votetaker.  --  Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email protected]  From [email protected] Thu Jun 22 00:21:09 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Jonathan I. Kamens) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.ieee,comp.org.sug,comp.org.usenix Subject: RESULT: comp.org.uniforum passes 470:18 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 22 Jun 1995 00:00:43 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 550 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7095 news.groups:154867 comp.org.ieee:3929 comp.org.sug:1365 comp.org.usenix:6243  				RESULT 	  unmoderated group comp.org.uniforum passes 470:18  There were 470 YES votes and 18 NO votes, for a total of 488 valid votes.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.  Newsgroups line: comp.org.uniforum	UniForum Association activities.  Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 20 June 1995.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact Jonathan Kamens <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group contact George H. Bosworth <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  The following charter was written by the proponent of the group.  UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a large Unix-related professional association in Santa Clara CA. UniForum has over 39,000 paid and trial members, holds an annual UniForum trade show, publishes a bimonthly UniNews and a monthly UniForum Monthly, and publishes an annual Open Systems Product Directory, which in 1995 has over 1,800 pages.  UniForum has 13 affiliate SIGs in U.S. cities, and affiliate relations with Unix or Open Systems organizations in 19 countries.  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.org.uniforum will be used for announcements by UniForum staff, questions and answers about UniForum affairs of any kind, and discussion of UniForum-related events and matters. In operation, comp.org.uniforum will be similar to other comp.org.* newsgroups, such as comp.org.ieee, comp.org.sug, and comp.org.usenix.   comp.org.uniforum Final Vote Ack  The lists of voters below are alphabetized in a case-insensitive manner by E-mail address.  Voters whose last received vote was "abstain" had no affect on the outcome of the vote and are not listed.  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "yes" votes (470):  /G=Wing/S=Lee/OU=TXIVGP.PO7/@SMDALLAS.LANGATE.sprint.com Fred E J Linton <[email protected]> Albert Menchaca <[email protected]> Ricardo Murillo <[email protected]> GB28&qr4B6 <[email protected]> CSH Little <[email protected]> Paul Jacob <[email protected]> Keith Mankins <[email protected]> Adrian Proctor <[email protected]> "Louis A. Oliver" <[email protected]> Pete Kellogg <[email protected]> "Gary W. Holbrook" <[email protected]> Brian Crissup <[email protected]> <[email protected]> (ext 214) [email protected] (Aaron Smith - Sun CIS) Aaron Schmiedel <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ghassan Abbas) [email protected] (Abe Collins) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (James Leroy Adams) Alexander Adolf <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Ajit Menta) Alan Sandell <[email protected]> "Alberto A. Martin"  <[email protected]> [email protected] (Alex Wu) [email protected] (Alberto Baez) [email protected] (Andy McGill) "Ana Maria De Alvare'" <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Anders Nicolausson) =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEJFbEBrQTEbKEI=?=  (Nobuyoshi Andou) <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Anita Holmgren) [email protected] (Ann Comey) anuwat <[email protected]> [email protected] (Fernando Arruda) Alexandru Rotaru - User UniFourum 25527 <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Aryeh Silverberg) [email protected] (Aubrey Truex) Jim Ault <[email protected]> [email protected] "Alan W. Holley" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Babu Turumella) [email protected] (Ed Bailey) [email protected] (Ken Baptiste) Dave Barr <[email protected]> "Brent E. Boyko" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Eric M. Berg) [email protected] (Jaycy J. Shui) [email protected] (Susan Bickford) [email protected] (Bill Knoche SUN Phoenix SE) [email protected] (Bill Gunshannon) [email protected] (Bill Palleschi) [email protected] (Barbara Kucera) "Blasko, John F" [email protected]> [email protected] (Bruce McCrea) "Balint Nagy Endre" <[email protected]> Bob Birss <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob German) [email protected] (Dunhill Technology Search) Diane Bracken <[email protected]> Brian Rankin <[email protected]> [email protected] (Brian Rankin) [email protected] (Bruce Edmundson) Barry Rutkin <[email protected]> Bryan Stephenson <[email protected]> Bill Schenk <[email protected]> Brett Smith <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected]com (Jeff Busch) "Don Butler, ext. 3884" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Buzz Sanderson) [email protected] (Simon Casady) "Carlos Caballero" <[email protected]> [email protected] Candace Doyle <[email protected]> [email protected] (Celeste Stokely) [email protected] (David Chadwick) [email protected] (Charles Chan) [email protected] "Charles K. Acker" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Charlie Pfefferkorn) [email protected] (CHARLES     TASOPULOS            ) [email protected] (Chip Ziering) Christopher Small <[email protected]> Chris Frank <[email protected]> [email protected] (Chris Maltby) Chuck DUNN <[email protected]> Chris Stamper <[email protected]> [email protected] (Christopher Paluszek) [email protected] (Cindy Wilkie - SMCC Silicon Valley South DSEM) [email protected] "Dan Reed" <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Dan Smith) "Dave Saunders" <[email protected]> David Blackwood <[email protected]> "Skinner, David ASG" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dave Hamilton) [email protected] (David Carlson) David Wolfskill <[email protected]> [email protected] (David E. Booty, Jr.) Dan Uland <[email protected]> [email protected] (Doug Davies) "Dean W. Bettinger" <[email protected]> [email protected] "Steven R. Staton" <[email protected]> Derwin Skipp <[email protected]> [email protected] (Desmond Chan) NYS Division for Youth <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Aldrich) [email protected] (Dan Gillen) DGSBH%[email protected] Dick Shippee <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] "David A. Martinez G." <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Hollander) [email protected] (David Neill) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Dan M. Park - Advanced Systems Group (303) 457-4786) [email protected] [email protected] (Jim Duncan) David Francis Vesely <[email protected]> [email protected] (T. David Wong) [email protected] (Eric B. Hanson) [email protected] (Morten Liljeberg) [email protected] [email protected] (Ed Brencovich) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David Edwards) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Ellie Young) [email protected] (Ed Lynn) Eric Goebelbecker <[email protected]> "Eric Yundt" <[email protected]> "Eric Yee" <[email protected]> Enrique Sanchez Vela <[email protected]> John Niemann <[email protected]> Frank Chao <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (FlashBack) Felix Lee <[email protected]> Hans Forbrich <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ted Fore ) [email protected] (Fairfax C. O'Riley) [email protected] (Francis Au-Yeung) Frank - Papierniak <[email protected]> [email protected] (Frank Papierniak) "Frank Brock, 513 629-2437" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Frank Nagle) Fred Arredondo <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Michael Frumkin) Dan Geer <[email protected]> Gene De Libero <[email protected]> [email protected] (George H. Bosworth) Paul Gerwitz <[email protected]> "James D. Gillmore" <[email protected]> "Sittler, Greg" <[email protected]> Gregory McKesey <[email protected]> [email protected] "Michael D. Grapevine" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Greg ROSE) George Herran <[email protected]> John Mangrich <[email protected]> Georges Schild <[email protected]> Gordon Tyrrell <[email protected]> BC <[email protected]> Bala Guthy <[email protected]> [email protected] (Garrett Van Siclen) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Hans J. Bergmann) "Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Harold A. 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Kapela" <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Keith Bale) Kim Biel-Nielsen <[email protected]> Karel Burian <[email protected]> kevinr <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ken Hatten) Kim DeVaughn <[email protected]> [email protected] (Kjell A. Olsson) Kevin Gilhooly <[email protected]> Sridhar Kodela <[email protected]> Kishore Reddy <[email protected]> [email protected] "Amor, Larry" <[email protected]> "Larry Scherr" <[email protected]> "Larry Mayfield" <[email protected]> Larry Austin <[email protected]> Lars Flikkeid <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Leonard J. Augustine) Leslie Zimmerman <[email protected]> Allan Lieberman  <[email protected]> "John C.H. Lin" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Gerry Swetsky) [email protected] (Martin Schr"oder) [email protected] (Larry J. Miller) Larry Gardner <[email protected]> [email protected] "Le H Nguyen" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Louis Rael) Lyle Bickley <[email protected]> "Shannon, Lew" <[email protected]> Luis Antonio Fasano <[email protected]> [email protected] (Luciano Mannucci) [email protected] Luis de la Vega <[email protected]> "Lance W. Bledsoe" <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Daniel W. Panning) [email protected] (Mark A. 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Hanson) "Michael Matthews" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mike Carson SUN Tucson 520-577-5207) Michael Tilson <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mike Fox) [email protected] (Michael Goda) Mike Lee <[email protected]> Milt Webb <[email protected]> Mac Shih/EE <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Misukanis) Mitja Trampuz <[email protected]> Mike Spitzer <[email protected]> "MKRISHNA.US.ORACLE.COM" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mona Naipo) [email protected] (Mike Schmit) [email protected] (Manish Shah) [email protected] Marco Zamora <[email protected]> [email protected] (Naider Chen) [email protected] (Nir Baroz) [email protected] (Nigel Allen) [email protected] (Neal McEwen) Fred Noz <[email protected]> [email protected] (Padmanabhan) [email protected] ([email protected]) Nick Wilson <[email protected]> [email protected] "Vince R. 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Ramani" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ramon Busick) Randy Melen - SLAC/SCS <[email protected]> Raulin Olivera <[email protected]> Ray Brownrigg <[email protected]> [email protected] (Raymond Suliteanu) [email protected] (rbarends) [email protected] (Sergei Rebrik) [email protected] [email protected] (Roger Kuhlman) [email protected] Rich Baughman <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Richard Hubbell) Raymond Ngai <[email protected]> [email protected] (Robert Hosale) [email protected] (Ollivier Robert) [email protected] (Rod Creason) [email protected] (Ron Patterson) RONE%[email protected] [email protected] (System PRIVILEGED Account) Rowan Fairgrove <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] "RRAGOOBE.US.ORACLE.COM" <[email protected]> [email protected] (R.R.Butte) Robin Samms <[email protected]> [email protected] (Radhika S. Reddy) "Steve Rugari (703) 329-7182" <[email protected]> Robin Winslett <[email protected]> "B. Samuel Blanchard" <[email protected]> Greg Schueman <[email protected]> [email protected] (Glenn Schuman) [email protected] (Scott Dunbar) Scott Miklossy <[email protected]> [email protected] (Scott Miklossy) [email protected] J B Senturia <[email protected]> [email protected] (Sanjeev Shah) [email protected] (Ofer Sheinkin) Shon Seet <[email protected]> [email protected] (Dave Strnad) [email protected] [email protected] (steve koepke) [email protected] Sten Drescher <[email protected]> [email protected] (Susan Hoffmann) "Sparky" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Stephen A. Sacks) Steven N Smiley <[email protected]> [email protected] (Steve Peterson) [email protected] Steve Sundman <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Danny Sung C/O GTE) Susila Ramamoorthy <[email protected]> "Scott Woods/TIS/Tandy" [email protected]}@mhsgate.tandy.com> [email protected] [email protected] (atc member) Gyorgy Szanto <[email protected]> [email protected] (Andrew Lau) T_Alford%[email protected] [email protected] (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJD8kMSQmJEEkPyQvJDgbKEI=?=/Takuji TAKEUCHI) [email protected] (Thomas Cuny) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] "Francis G. Cruz   CI" <[email protected]> Thanos Mentzelopoulos <[email protected]> Thanos Mentzelopoulos <[email protected]> Jeffrey Thomas <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tibor Remzso) Tim Trautmann <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tom Garrard) Tim Oborne <[email protected]> Tom Sullivan <[email protected]> Tomas Jablonski <[email protected]> "Anthony E. Canapa" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tony Gerber) [email protected] [email protected] (Tom Anderson) [email protected] (Long Van Tran) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Chung-jen Tseng) Ted Shapin <[email protected]> [email protected] (Tuan Cong Hoang) [email protected] (Karthi K.) [email protected] (Tim Walters) [email protected] Udayan_Mukherjee <[email protected]> Jeff Uhlich <[email protected]> Ulrik Schroeder <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Van de Paar) [email protected] (CLEVELAND/VIVIENNE  ) [email protected] (Vishy Narayan) [email protected] "Vince Sheeran" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jeff Wade x5117) Bernd Waldbauer S4 <[email protected]> "James J. Waldram" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Walt Klingenberg) [email protected] (Wade A. Smith) "Steve Welch" <[email protected]> Wes Peters <[email protected]> William Filler <[email protected]> DANIEL WINDERS <[email protected]> [email protected] (William Kearns SUN Phoenix SE) "Michael Doyle"  <[email protected]> [email protected]_mail1.avl.com "William A. Strapko" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ed Homko) [email protected] "Youri N. Podchosov" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark Young) [email protected] ( Sonny Dionida )  Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] "J.T. 'Byron' Adkins" <[email protected]> "G. Clark Brown" <[email protected]> Christopher Ward <[email protected]> [email protected] (Donald Lewine) Keith Marks <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] (Lance K. Chun) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Ryan Waldron) "Robert P. Smith" <[email protected]> [email protected] (Ron Boerger) Evil Pete <[email protected]> Smarasderagd <[email protected]> Dwight Brown <[email protected]> Vance Strickland <[email protected]> Risto Widenius <[email protected]>  --  Jonathan Kamens  |  OpenVision Technologies, Inc.  |   [email protected]