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From [email protected] Wed Mar  9 23:43:15 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (John M. Grohol) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc Subject: RFD: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 Mar 1994 22:52:51 -0500 Organization: nova.edu Lines: 225 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4747 news.groups:97678 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:24822 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:31958 comp.os.ms-windows.announce:580 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:28770  ----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=---- The First Request for Discussion (RFD) on the REORGANIZATION of COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS ----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----  Note: Discussion on this RFD should occur in "news.groups"       as the Guidelines suggest.  Introduction ------------ The need for a reorganization of COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS has become apparent recently, as users in the newsgroup (including myself) have complained aloud at the increasing traffic on the numerous applications available for the MS-Windows operating environment. In March, 1993, the Software Publishers Association  reported that Windows applications outsold DOS applications for  the first time in history. Since it has become all but impossible to buy a PC nowadays without a copy of MS-Windows on it, and with the upcoming release of Windows 4.0, MS-Windows appears to be an operating environment that is stable, widely-accepted, and here to stay.  This newsgroup has an enormous amount of traffic and is consistently ranked in the top 100 or so newsgroups for traffic and popularity. Finding topics on the applications one is personally interested in has become all but impossible.   This serves as the formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps. -------------------------------------------------------------- General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:  Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's  specific subject area.  For instance, only word-processing  applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment  would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,         comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups, or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,        comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc  Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.  Discussion may include, but is no means limited to: questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons, personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Proposed Renaming: ----------------- comp.os.ms-windows.apps -> comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)  Charter: This newsgroup will take the place of the current          catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various          MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall          into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-          multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);           and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for          the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final          vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment          itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on           comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.            It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps          be removed after a 3-month period (to give people          time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.  Specific Charters on New Groups Proposed: ---------------------------------------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows word-processing applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is word-processing          applications. Any discussion related to questions          or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software          would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,          WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software           topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.spreadsheet (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows spreadsheet applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is spreadsheet          applications. Any discussion related to questions          or comments on MS-Windows spreadsheet software          would be appropriate here. Excel, Quattro Pro,          Lotus 1-2-3, etc. are examples of software           topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows communication applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is communication          applications. Any discussion related to questions          or comments on MS-Windows communications software          would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for          Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software          topics appropriate for this group.           The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows utilities.  Charter: The subject area for this group is utilities for          MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,          HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold          for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples          of software topics appropriate for this group.           The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.networking (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion of MS-Windows networking applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is networking          applications. Any discussion related to questions          or comments on MS-Windows networking software          would be appropriate here. Lantastic, Netware,          Windows for Workgroups, etc.          are examples of software topics appropriate for          this group.          The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.graphics (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion of MS-Windows graphics & CAD applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is graphics          presentation and CAD applications. Any discussion          related to questions or comments on MS-Windows          graphics presentation and CAD software would          be appropriate here. AutoCAD, Corel Draw,          Harvard Graphics, etc. are examples of software          topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here. --------- Purposely left out of RFD:  Databases . . . . Covered already by the comp.databases.* hierarchy PIMs . . . . . .  Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.01%) Financial . . . . Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.87%) Programming . . . Covered already by comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.*  Percentages were computed from a 2 month survey of subjects on comp.os.ms-windows.apps. ---------  Summary ------- By renaming the current group and adding 6 more newsgroups to the hierarchy, comp.os.ms-windows.apps will be made more easily readable in the near future. The reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps has been overdue and this proposal has taken pains to be as simple and as logical as possible.  Why not comp.os.ms-windows.excel, *.word, *.xtree, *.pc-tools, etc.?  The alternative reorganization plan would create a newsgroup for each "major" application that exists on the market today. A reorganization plan that goes by specific application names  is much more uncertain & difficult, because those names are  subject to change as software companies get eaten up (and the name of their product changes), reorganize themselves, or dump products in favor of following other avenues.  Also, what constitutes a "major" (as opposed to minor or hardly used) application would have to be argued; shareware and freeware applications would also have to be equally represented. And what is popular today certainly may not even exist 5 years  >from now. Upkeep and maintenance of the hierarchy would have to be done routinely, which is an unlikely prospect. Last, if something like *.amipro doesn't pass, Amipro users are left discussing their word processor only in *.misc again.   If such a reorganization scheme is used, where do questions such as,  "What's the best Windows word-processor/spreadsheet/etc.?" fall  under? Do they have to crosspost to all the word-processor groups,  or just *.misc? If they do the latter, a large pros & cons  discussion on what is *the* best word processor would then ensue  on *.misc, which would make such an reorganization  effectively useless.  -------------------------------------  Notes on this RFD ----------------- This RFD is being posted on March 10, 1994 to the following groups:               news.groups               news.announce.newgroups               comp.os.ms-windows.apps               comp.os.ms-windows.misc               comp.os.ms-windows.announce               comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc  and may be freely distributed to any other groups or mailing lists where it might be of relevance. Please leave the Followup-To: header intact. Persons not able to communicate or post directly to Usenet may mail their comments or questions to:             [email protected]     **  All pertinent discussion relating to this RFD     **    **  should take place on news.groups, hence           **    **  follow-ups have been directed there. I strongly   **    **  urge readers to limit their discussion on this    **    **  RFD to news.groups, as is the recognized          **    **  convention.                                       **  Call for Votes -------------- The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 30 days,                on or around April 11, 1994.         The CFV is expected to be conducted by an independent vote-taker, arranged through Ron Dippold. The CFV will be sent out to the same newsgroups (listed above) as the RFD was sent to. Details on voting will be posted in the CFV.  -jmg  From [email protected] Thu Mar 24 18:10:05 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (John M. Grohol) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 23 Mar 1994 17:19:55 -0500 Organization: acast.nova.edu Lines: 212 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4830 news.groups:98836 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:25678 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:33369 comp.os.ms-windows.announce:608 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:30124  ----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=---- The Second Request for Discussion (RFD) on the REORGANIZATION of COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS ----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----=----  Note: Discussion on this RFD should occur in "news.groups"       as the Guidelines suggest.  Note: Changes from the 1st RFD are noted by a leading '*'.  Introduction ------------ The need for a reorganization of COMP.OS.MS-WINDOWS.APPS has become apparent recently, as users in the newsgroup (including myself) have complained aloud at the increasing traffic on the numerous applications available for the MS-Windows operating environment. In March, 1993, the Software Publishers Association  reported that Windows applications outsold DOS applications for  the first time in history. Since it has become all but impossible to buy a PC nowadays without a copy of MS-Windows on it, and with the upcoming release of Windows 4.0, MS-Windows appears to be an operating environment that is stable, widely-accepted, and here to stay.  This newsgroup has an enormous amount of traffic and is consistently ranked in the top 100 or so newsgroups for traffic and popularity. Finding topics on the applications one is personally interested in has become all but impossible.   This serves as the formal Request for Discussion (RFD) on the reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps. -------------------------------------------------------------- General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:  Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's  specific subject area.  For instance, only word-processing  applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment  would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,         comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups, or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,        comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc  Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.  Discussion may include, but is no means limited to: questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons, personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Proposed Renaming: ----------------- comp.os.ms-windows.apps -> comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated)  Charter: This newsgroup will take the place of the current          catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various          MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall          into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-          multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);           and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for          the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final          vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment          itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on           comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.            It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps          be removed after a 3-month period (to give people          time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.  Specific Charters on New Groups Proposed: ---------------------------------------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows word-processing applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is word-processing          applications. Any discussion related to questions          or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software          would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,          WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software           topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows communication applications.  Charter: The subject area for this group is communication          applications. Any discussion related to questions          or comments on MS-Windows communications software          would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for          Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software          topics appropriate for this group.           The General Charter is also included here. --------- Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)  Description: Discussion on MS-Windows utilities.  Charter: The subject area for this group is utilities for          MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,          HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold          for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples          of software topics appropriate for this group.           The General Charter is also included here. --------- *Name: comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated) * *Description: Discussion on MS-Windows financial & tax software. * *Charter: The subject area for this group is financial *         and tax software. Any discussion related to  *         programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.     *         are examples of software         *         topics appropriate for this group. *         The General Charter is also included here. --------- Purposely left out of RFD:  Databases   -- Covered already by the comp.databases.* hierarchy PIMs        -- Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.01%) Financial   -- Not enough traffic to warrant own group (.87%)  * The above group was added due to discussion on the RFD.  Programming -- Covered already by comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.*  * Networking  -- Covered by CFV of comp.os.ms-windows.networking groups * Spreadsheets - Covered by comp.apps.spreadsheets * Graphics     - Covered by comp.graphics  * The above three proposed groups were deleted from the original * RFD because they would be redundant to pre-existing groups.  Percentages were computed from a 2 month survey of subjects on comp.os.ms-windows.apps. ---------  Summary ------- By renaming the current group and adding a few more newsgroups to the hierarchy, comp.os.ms-windows.apps will be made more easily readable in the near future. The reorganization of comp.os.ms-windows.apps has been overdue and this proposal has taken pains to be as simple and as logical as possible.  Why not comp.os.ms-windows.excel, *.word, *.xtree, *.pc-tools, etc.?  The alternative reorganization plan would create a newsgroup for each "major" application that exists on the market today. A reorganization plan that goes by specific application names  is much more uncertain & difficult, because those names are  subject to change as software companies get eaten up (and the name of their product changes), reorganize themselves, or dump products in favor of following other avenues.  Also, what constitutes a "major" (as opposed to minor or hardly used) application would have to be argued; shareware and freeware applications would also have to be equally represented. And what is popular today certainly may not even exist 5 years  >from now. Upkeep and maintenance of the hierarchy would have to be done routinely, which is an unlikely prospect. Last, if something like *.amipro doesn't pass, Amipro users are left discussing their word processor only in *.misc again.   If such a reorganization scheme is used, where do questions such as,  "What's the best Windows word-processor/spreadsheet/etc.?" fall  under? Do they have to crosspost to all the word-processor groups,  or just *.misc? If they do the latter, a large pros & cons  discussion on what is *the* best word processor would then ensue  on *.misc, which would make such an reorganization  effectively useless.  -------------------------------------  Notes on this RFD ----------------- This 2nd RFD is being posted on March 23, 1994 to the following groups:               news.groups               news.announce.newgroups               comp.os.ms-windows.apps               comp.os.ms-windows.misc               comp.os.ms-windows.announce               comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc  and may be freely distributed to any other groups or mailing lists where it might be of relevance. Please leave the Followup-To: header intact. Persons not able to communicate or post directly to Usenet may mail their comments or questions to:             [email protected]     **  All pertinent discussion relating to this RFD     **    **  should take place on news.groups, hence           **    **  follow-ups have been directed there. I strongly   **    **  urge readers to limit their discussion on this    **    **  RFD to news.groups, as is the recognized          **    **  convention.                                       **  * The first RFD was posted on March 10, 1994.  Call for Votes -------------- The CFV is expected to be posted in approximately 30 days,                on or around April 11, 1994.         The CFV is expected to be conducted by an independent vote-taker, arranged through Ron Dippold. The CFV will be sent out to the same newsgroups (listed above) as the RFD was sent to. Details on voting will be posted in the CFV.  -jmg  From [email protected] Thu Apr 21 23:47:54 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc Subject: CFV: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 20 Apr 1994 17:25:52 -0400 Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 135 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Expires: 12 May 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4984 news.groups:101357 comp.os.ms-windows.announce:663 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:36072 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:27205 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:32540                        FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                 comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization  Newsgroups lines: (all groups unmoderated) comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm       MS-Windows communication applications. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial  MS-Windows financial & tax software. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc       MS-Windows applications. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities  MS-Windows utilities. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc  MS-Windows word-processing applications.  Votes must be received by 29:59:59 UTC, 11 May 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For questions about the proposed groups contact [email protected] (John M. Grohol).  CHARTERS  General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:   	Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics 	on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's  	specific subject area.  For instance, only word-processing  	applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment  	would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,  	       comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc 	Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups, 	or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation 	votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group, 	       comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc  	Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.  	Discussion may include, but is no means limited to: 	questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons, 	personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any 	MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated) (proposed to replace comp.os.ms-windows.apps)          This newsgroup will take the place of the current         catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various         MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall         into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-         multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);          and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for         the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final         vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment         itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on          comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.           It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps         be removed after a 3-month period (to give people         time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is word-processing         applications. Any discussion related to questions         or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software         would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,         WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software          topics appropriate for this group.         The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is communication         applications. Any discussion related to questions         or comments on MS-Windows communications software         would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for         Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software         topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is utilities for         MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,         HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold         for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples         of software topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)  	The subject area for this group is financial 	and tax software. Any discussion related to  	programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.     	are examples of software appropriate for this group. 	The General Charter is also included here.   HOW TO VOTE  Mail the ballot to:    [email protected] Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  Quick voting checklist: 1) Fill in the ballot form shown below. 2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply. 3) Make sure your reply goes to [email protected]  =========Begin Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!========== comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Ballot      Give your real name here:  [Your Vote]  Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote [ NO      ]  example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention  [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps) [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial =========End Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!============  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. WARNING: In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator. When in doubt, ask the vote-taker.  From [email protected] Wed May  4 17:41:28 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 25 Apr 1994 15:58:49 -0400 Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 148 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Expires: 12 May 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5006 news.groups:101892 comp.os.ms-windows.announce:668 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:36509 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:27515 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:32906                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                 comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization  Newsgroups lines: (all groups unmoderated) comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm       MS-Windows communication applications. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial  MS-Windows financial & tax software. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc       MS-Windows applications. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities  MS-Windows utilities. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc  MS-Windows word-processing applications.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 May 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For questions about the proposed groups contact [email protected] (John M. Grohol).  This CFV contains a "bounce acknowledgement" for votes which were received and counted but the reply to the voter was returned as undeliverable.  If your name appears on the list, you do not need to re-vote.  If you voted before 25 April 06:45 GMT and have neither received a reply by e-mail nor found your name in the bounce ack, you may assume your vote did not reach the vote- counting machine and should try again.  For votes after the bounce ack was created, please check with the vote-taker.  If you have any further problems, ask your site's postmaster.  CHARTERS  General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:           Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics         on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's          specific subject area.  For instance, only word-processing          applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment          would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,                 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc         Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,         or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation         votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,                comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc          Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.          Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:         questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,         personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any         MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated) (proposed to replace comp.os.ms-windows.apps)          This newsgroup will take the place of the current         catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various         MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall         into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-         multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);          and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for         the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final         vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment         itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on          comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.           It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps         be removed after a 3-month period (to give people         time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is word-processing         applications. Any discussion related to questions         or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software         would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,         WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software          topics appropriate for this group.         The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is communication         applications. Any discussion related to questions         or comments on MS-Windows communications software         would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for         Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software         topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is utilities for         MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,         HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold         for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples         of software topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is financial         and tax software. Any discussion related to          programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.             are examples of software appropriate for this group.         The General Charter is also included here.   HOW TO VOTE  Mail the ballot to:    [email protected] Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  Quick voting checklist: 1) Fill in the ballot form shown below. 2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply. 3) Make sure your reply goes to [email protected]  =========Begin Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!========== comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Ballot      Give your real name here:  [Your Vote]  Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ YES     ]  example.yes.vote [ NO      ]  example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention  [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps) [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities [         ]  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial =========End Ballot Form - Don't delete any lines within the form!============  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  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When in doubt, ask the vote-taker.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                               Bruce Steinke  From [email protected] Mon May 16 21:46:55 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc Subject: RESULT: comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization - all groups pass Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 16 May 1994 14:36:00 -0400 Organization: UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 516 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><[email protected]><[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5088 news.groups:103818 comp.os.ms-windows.announce:704 comp.os.ms-windows.apps:38508 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:28697 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:34680                               VOTING RESULTS                 comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization  Voting for the comp.os.ms-windows.apps reorganization proposal ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 10 May 1994.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For questions about the newsgroups contact [email protected] (John M. Grohol).  There were 330 valid votes submitted during the voting period.  Each proposed newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at least 100 more YES than NO votes.  The results are as follows:  comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization results - 330 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  284   43 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps)  282   39 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc  280   45 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm  280   45 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities  227   80 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial   10 invalid votes  All five groups passed.  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroups shortly thereafter.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps (replaced by comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc) will be removed in approximately three months.  Newsgroups lines: (all groups unmoderated) comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm       MS-Windows communication applications. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial  MS-Windows financial & tax software. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc       MS-Windows applications. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities  MS-Windows utilities. comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc  MS-Windows word-processing applications.  CHARTERS  General Charter to be included for all new proposed groups:           Discussion on each proposed group will be limited to topics         on the MS-Windows applications that fall under that group's          specific subject area.  For instance, only word-processing          applications specific to the MS-Windows operating environment          would be discussed in the proposed newsgroup,                 comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc         Applications not falling under any of the proposed groups,         or whose proposed groups do not pass their individual creation         votes, can be discussed in the proposed renamed group,                comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc          Discussion may be on commercial or non-commercial software.          Discussion may include, but is no means limited to:         questions, answers, reviews, comments, useability comparisons,         personal experiences, problem-solving, etc. on any         MS-Windows application that falls within that group's subject area.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (unmoderated) (proposed to replace comp.os.ms-windows.apps)          This newsgroup will take the place of the current         catch-all newsgroup for topics related to various         MS-Windows application discussions that do not fall         into any of the proposed groups below (eg.-         multimedia applications, Quicken, Mathematica);          and for the discussion of any MS-Windows applications for         the below proposed new newsgroups which do not pass a final         vote. Discussion on the Windows operating environment         itself (eg.- new versions) should take place on          comp.os.ms-windows.misc, not on this group.           It is also proposed that comp.os.ms-windows.apps         be removed after a 3-month period (to give people         time to switch over) if the proposed group passes.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is word-processing         applications. Any discussion related to questions         or comments on MS-Windows word-processing software         would be appropriate here. AmiPro, Word for Windows,         WordPerfect for Windows, etc. are software          topics appropriate for this group.         The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is communication         applications. Any discussion related to questions         or comments on MS-Windows communications software         would be appropriate here. WinCIM, Procomm+ for         Windows, Winfax Pro, etc. are examples of software         topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is utilities for         MS-Windows. Such add-ons as PC-Tools for Windows,         HP's Dashboard, Norton Desktop for Windows, XtGold         for Windows, Afterdark, etc. are examples         of software topics appropriate for this group.          The General Charter is also included here.  comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial (unmoderated)          The subject area for this group is financial         and tax software. Any discussion related to          programs such as Quicken, Simply Tax, etc.             are examples of software appropriate for this group.         The General Charter is also included here.   comp.os.ms-windows.apps Reorganization Final Vote Ack                                       comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial -------+                                     comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities ------+|                                          comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm -----+||                                     comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc ----+|||       comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc (replaces comp.os.ms-windows.apps) ---+||||                                                                          ||||| [email protected]                      Andre M Branum YYYYY [email protected]                                               Steve Adams YYYYY [email protected]                                     Alan Walford YYYYN [email protected]                                              Daniel Akst YYYYY [email protected]                          Anders M Jorgensen NNNNN [email protected]                                 Mike Andersson  YYYYY [email protected]                       Andreas Helke YYYYY [email protected]                                        Andrew Deckowitz YYYYN [email protected]                                           Andy Latto YYYYY [email protected]                                                Art Klassen YYYYY [email protected]                                       Andree Popp YYYYN [email protected]                                   Allen L. 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Basarsky YYYYY [email protected]     Jeff Wilkinson (JAW) YYYYY [email protected]                                            Terry Sikes YYYYY [email protected]                              Todd W. Tipton YYYYY [email protected]                               Todd Zervas YYYYY [email protected]                                         Uli Mittermaier YYYYY [email protected]                                 Ulrich Raabe YYYYY [email protected]                                         Ekkehard Uthke YYYYY uunet!anagld!c-cat!david                                            Dave NNNNN [email protected]                                     James Vlcek NNNNN [email protected]                                Bruce Vrana YYYYY [email protected]                                    W. Hennings YYYYY [email protected]                                    Kim Wagstaff YYYYY [email protected]                                Ulf Bahrenfuss NNNNN [email protected]                                  Ward F. Bush NNNNN [email protected]                                          Bill Walton YYYYY [email protected]                                             YYYY- [email protected]                                       Ken Weaverling YYYYN [email protected]                                             Davis Straub YYYYY [email protected]                                        Fred Wiersma YYYYY [email protected]                          Scott Woodward YYYYY [email protected]                                        William Ballard YYYYN [email protected]                                       JUDE ARNOUT DURIEUX YYYYY [email protected]               Dave Shariff Yadallee YYYYY [email protected]                                       Peter Zander YYYYY [email protected]                                         Steve Rusk YYYYY   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                   Brian R. Taylor    ! No ballot [email protected]                                          Lamar Folsom    ! No ballot [email protected]                                                Serge Garand    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                            Jim Higgins    ! No ballot [email protected]                              Jeffrey A. Freedman    ! No ballot [email protected]                                             Michael Gilbert    ! No ballot [email protected]                                                   Frank Miles    ! No ballot [email protected]                                   Mike F Rockwell    ! No ballot [email protected]                          Dr.Fred Roehner    ! No ballot [email protected]                                     Spencer L. Lewis    ! No vote statement in message  Daily Vote Arrival Rates ------------------------ Votes received per day (U.S. Pacific Time) are shown below.   35 20 Apr     <-- 1st CFV  110 21 Apr   44 22 Apr   11 23 Apr     weekend   14 24 Apr     weekend   36 25 Apr   47 26 Apr     <-- 2nd CFV   14 27 Apr   10 28 Apr    5 29 Apr    2 30 Apr     weekend    6  1 May     weekend    2  2 May    2  3 May    4  4 May    3  5 May    2  6 May    0  7 May     weekend    4  8 May     weekend    1  9 May    3 10 May    1 11 May     <-- voting ends 23:59 GMT (16:59 PDT)  Newsgroups which passed crossed the threshold of passing on the following dates (U.S. Pacific Time):   comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc passed on Fri Apr 22 07:10:35 1994    comp.os.ms-windows.apps.word-proc passed on Fri Apr 22 07:10:35 1994    comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm passed on Fri Apr 22 08:55:13 1994    comp.os.ms-windows.apps.utilities passed on Fri Apr 22 09:34:33 1994    comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial passed on Mon Apr 25 23:32:35 1994    
 
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