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From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:07:23 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1815 news.groups:39077 alt.privacy:3224 comp.org.eff.talk:6796 alt.society.civil-liberty:3407 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Dennis G. Rears <[email protected]> Subject: RFD:  comp.society.privacy Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1992 14:25:35 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 71     This is a updated Call for Discussion for the creation of a new newsgroup  with the name:      comp.society.privacy    The original CFD went out several months ago.  Most of the comments were favourable, the only disagreement was whether it should be named comp.privacy or comp.society.privacy.  Because of the sentiments that were stated, I am proposing the name to be comp.society.privacy.   One question that was raised is what the relationship between CSP and alt.privacy.  There is no relationship between the two groups.    ---------------------Original CFD-----------------------------   This newsgroup will be moderated and be gatewayed to an Internet Mailing List.  I propose myself as the Moderator of this newsgroup. I am currently moderator of the telecom-priv ([email protected]) Internet mailing list.  The telecom-priv mailing list will be folded into this newsgroup.     The discussion will center around the effect of technology upon privacy.  All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications.  Technology can enhance and detract from privacy.  For example cryptologic methods can enhance privacy but sophisicated microphones can detract from it.     Topics include but are not restricted to:  	o Telecommunications - Caller-Id, ANI, monitoring of  phones calls (cellear/cordless), tracking people's locations through use of   	o Cryptology - enhances citizens rights to safeguard their information.  	o Data Bases - Big Brother is here but it is not just the Govt, It is also Corporate America.  The advent of mailing lists has now reach an extremely high level.  Consider the Social Security Number.  	o High Tech Surveillance Devices - ranging for sophisicated (SP) bugs, viewing devices, and audio devices.  	o The boon in video cameras and private citizens taping events; e.g. Rodney King episode.  Video as well as Photographic information can be forged.    	o  The effect of technology on privacy in the legal arena (e.g admissibilty in court of items produced by new and old technology).  	o Misc - National Identifier Numbers, Bar coding currency, electronic  toll devices mounted on Autos, etc.      This group is not intended for the overall issue of privacy, (e.g should a rape victim have their name published).      Currently privacy issues are discussed in many newsgroups but only how the privacy issue affects that one topic.  There is a need for a single newsgroup.  The Internet mailing list telecom-priv ([email protected]) was created a year ago to discuss Caller-Id after the that topic was bounced from comp.dcom.telecom. Telecom-priv was expanded to include all issues of privacy dealing with telecom equipment.      I am proposing that this group be moderated to keep a high signal to noise ratio.  Moderation of a newgroup means different thing to different people.  The moderation that I propose will filter out all administrative requests, test messages, non-tech/privacy items, and excessive flames. Nothing is censored.   Dennis --  			Dennis G. Rears MILNET:   [email protected]     UUCP:  ...!uunet!fsac1.pica.army.mil!drears INTERNET: [email protected]    USPS:  Box 210, Wharton, NJ 07885 Phone(home): 201.927.8757	     From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:02:40 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2229 news.groups:48987 alt.privacy:3638 comp.org.eff.talk:7887 alt.society.civil-liberty:4094 Path: uunet!uunet!uunet!not-for-mail From: "Dennis G. Rears " <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty Subject: RESULT:  comp.society.privacy passes 189:16 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 15 Apr 1992 12:22:18 -0400 Organization: UUNET Communications Lines: 230 Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.UU.NET    Voting on comp.society.privacy (Moderated) closed on April 13.  The newsgroup passed  189 to 16.  My thanks to everyone who voted. The following is the charter for the group:  comp.society.privacy	Effects of technology on privacy (Moderated)     This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of    technology on privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the    law and society as it presents us with new devices and    applications.  Technology can enhance and detract from privacy.    This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailling list.  NO Votes:   Carl Edman <[email protected]> Otto Tennant <[email protected]> Harald Nordgard-Hansen <[email protected]> [email protected] "Austin G. Hastings" <[email protected]> Richard Commander <[email protected]> [email protected] Michael Peirce <[email protected]> Christopher Ward <[email protected]> [email protected] "Life..." <[email protected]> Phil Agre <[email protected]> Timothy VanFosson <[email protected]> "V. Balaji" <[email protected]> [email protected] Carl Rigney <[email protected]>  Yes Votes:  [email protected] Alan Gilbertson <[email protected]> [email protected] (Alex Reid) ALLENS%[email protected] andrew farmer <[email protected]> Andrew M. Dunn <[email protected]> Andy Sherman <[email protected]> Arthur Rubin <[email protected]> B. Gabriel Helou <[email protected]> B.J. 20-Mar-1992 1117 <[email protected]> Barbara Tongue <[email protected]> Barry Lustig <[email protected]> Ben Delisle <[email protected]> Ben Gross <[email protected]> Bennett Berson <[email protected]> Berry Mobley <[email protected]> Bill Seward <[email protected]> Bill Stewart <[email protected]> [email protected] Bob Hofkin <[email protected]> Bob Peterson <[email protected]> Bob Yazz <[email protected]> Brian Barr <[email protected]> Brian Hanafee <[email protected]> Brinton Cooper <[email protected]> Bruce Freeman <[email protected]> Captain Caveman [email protected]> Carl M. Kadie <[email protected]> Charles Fee <[email protected]> Charlie Mingo <[email protected]> Chris Galas <[email protected]> Conor O'Neill <[email protected]> Cristy <[email protected]> Dan Ford <[email protected]> Daniel Veditz <[email protected]> Dave Andrews <[email protected]> Dave Niebuhr, BNL CCD, 516-282-3093 <[email protected]> Dave Walker <[email protected]> David Deans <[email protected]> David E. Martin <[email protected]> David Filiatrault <[email protected]> David Lesher <[email protected]> David Muir Sharnoff <[email protected]> David Partain <[email protected]> David W. Barts <[email protected]> David Wald <[email protected]> [email protected] (Carl A. DeFranco) [email protected] Donald H. Locker <[email protected]> Doug Williams <[email protected]> Dreamer in the Dark <[email protected]> Ed Costello 8+296-7079 <[email protected]> Ellen K. Seebacher <[email protected]> Elliott Parker <[email protected]> Eric P. Scott <[email protected]> Erik C. Sowa <[email protected]> Erik Naggum <[email protected]> erin smith <[email protected]> Eugene N. Miya <[email protected]> Fen Labalme <[email protected]> FNE683::[email protected] [email protected] Gary Ansok <[email protected]> Gary Heston <[email protected]> [email protected] Glenn R. Stone <[email protected]> GMW0622%[email protected] Gordon Burditt <[email protected]> Gordon Jacobson <[email protected]> Greg Broiles <[email protected]> Gregory M. Paris <[email protected]> Gregory W. Edwards <[email protected]> Henry (H.W.)Troup <[email protected]> Howard Gayle <[email protected]> I, Dubious: TAY2-2/M7, DTN 227-3709  1920 <[email protected]> James Nau <[email protected]> Jamie Mason <[email protected]> Jared Slosberg <[email protected]> [email protected] (John Artz) Jean Ramaekers <[email protected]> Jeffrey M. Schweiger <[email protected]> Jeffrey  Porten <[email protected]> Jim Celoni  Joe Keane <[email protected]> John G Dobnick <[email protected]> John Higdon <[email protected]> John R. Levine <[email protected]> John Starta <[email protected]> John Stracke <[email protected]> [email protected] Joseph Albert <[email protected]> Joseph Albert <[email protected]> Joseph R. Justice <[email protected]> Josh Blackman <[email protected]> Jurgen Botz <[email protected]> Jyrki Kuoppala <[email protected]> Kath Mullholand, UNH Telecom, 862-1031 <[email protected]> Kathryn Fielding <[email protected]> Kelly Derek Deyoe <[email protected]> Kenny Adams <[email protected]> [email protected] Klaus-Peter Kossakowski <[email protected]> Laird Broadfield <[email protected]> Laura Kirk <[email protected]> Les Earnest <[email protected]> [email protected] Lloyd Taylor <[email protected]> [email protected] Loyd Blankenship <[email protected]> Marc T. Kaufman <[email protected]> Mark Atwood [email protected]> Mark Cheeseman <[email protected]> Mark Schuldenfrei <[email protected]> Mark W. Shumann <[email protected]> Martha L. Wilson <[email protected]> Matt Blaze <[email protected]> Matthew McGehrin <[email protected]> Maxime Taksar [email protected]> [email protected] Michael E. Adams <[email protected]> Michael S. Schiffer <[email protected]> Mick Farmer <[email protected]> Mike Batchelor <[email protected]> Mike Batchelor <[email protected]> Mike Morgan <[email protected]> Mike Riddle <[email protected]> [email protected] (Mark P. Neely, Northern Territory University) Nelson Bolyard <[email protected]> Nigel Allen <[email protected]> Norm <[email protected]> OCEANA::JONGSMA [email protected]> [email protected] Pat Rossiter <[email protected]> Patty Ericsson [email protected]> Peter G. Neumann <[email protected]> Phil Smyth <[email protected]> Phil Weiss <[email protected]> Phil Wherry <[email protected]> Pierre Dupont <[email protected]> [email protected] R. Scott Youmans <[email protected]> Randall Atkinson <[email protected]> Randell Jesup <[email protected]> Ray Kiddy <[email protected]> Renegade <[email protected]> [email protected] Richard H. Miller <[email protected]> Richard McCombs <[email protected]> Robert F Spence <[email protected]> Robert Shvern <[email protected]> Robert Williams Dobson <[email protected]> Roger H. Goun <[email protected]> Roland F. McKenney <[email protected]> roy <[email protected]> Roy Hetherington <[email protected]> Roy M. Silvernail <[email protected]> [email protected] Scott Coleman <[email protected]> Scott Goehring <[email protected]> Scott J. Kramer <[email protected]> Sean Colbath <[email protected]> Sean Petty <[email protected]> Seth Breidbart <[email protected]> Stephanie da Silva <[email protected]> Steve Cisler <[email protected]> Steve Dever <[email protected]> Steve Watt -- KD6GGD <[email protected]> [email protected] Steven J. Edwards <[email protected]> Super-User <[email protected]> SysOp <[email protected]> s_silverman%[email protected] Ted Lemon <[email protected]> Terry Palfrey <[email protected]> Tim Hruby <[email protected]> Tim Wood <[email protected]> timothy shimeall <[email protected]> Toby Nixon <[email protected]> Tom Coradeschi <[email protected]> Uncle Klaus <[email protected]> Vaillancourt Jean-Francois <[email protected]> Walter Roberson <[email protected]> Warren R Carithers <[email protected]> Wayne Sandrs-Unrein 18-Mar-1992 0929 <[email protected]> [email protected] William Pfeiffer <[email protected]> [email protected] Yaacov Fenster 31-Mar-1992 0739 <[email protected]> Yoram Eisenstadter <[email protected]>  Dennis  --  MILNET:   [email protected]     UUCP:  ...!uunet!cor5.pica.army.mil!drears INTERNET: [email protected]    USPS:  Box 210, Wharton, NJ 07885 Phone(home): 201.927.8757	   Phone(work): 201.724.2683/(DSN) 880.2683 USPS:        SMCAR-FSS-E, Bldg 94, Picatinny Ars, NJ 07806  From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 03:30:41 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1930 news.groups:41149 alt.privacy:3345 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy Path: rpi!think.com!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!europa.asd.contel.com!uunet!bounce-back From: Dennis G. Rears (FSAC) <[email protected]> Subject: CFV:  somp.society.privacy moderated Followup-To: poster X-Resent-To: comp.dcom.telecom Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: UUNET Communications Services Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1992 03:47:14 GMT Approved: [email protected]  CALL FOR VOTES TO CREATE NEWSGROUP ----------------------------------  Name:	  comp.society.privacy  Status:   moderator Moderator:  Dennis Rears <[email protected]>  Charter:       This newsgroup is to provide a forum for discussion on the effect of    technology on privacy. All to often technology is way ahead of the    law and society as it presents us with new devices and    applications.  Technology can enhance and detract from privacy.    This newsgroup will be gatewayed to an internet mailling list.  Votes:    Votes should be sent to the address:                       [email protected]    and may be (but do not have to be) sent by replying to this message.    Votes should state explicitly whether they are "for" or "against"   the creation of comp.society.privacy.  Ideally they should contain a   subject line to the effect of:     SUBJECT:  I vote YES to comp.society.privacy as proposed    SUBJECT:  I vote NO to comp.society.privacy as proposed    The wording does not have to follow these examples precisely but   it must be unambiguous and unconditional.    The following will render a vote INVALID:        - sending it to an address other than the one given above       - sending it after the voting deadline has passed       - sending it by a medium other than e-mail       - posting it to the net       - qualifying it with a conditional statement such as "I will         vote for comp.society.privacy provided that..."       - voting for a proposal with a name or charter other than         the precise one listed here       - voting by proxy for someone else    In the case of duplicate votes from a single user, only the LATEST   one will be counted.  You may therefore annul a previous vote by   mailing a new one.  Voting period:    Votes must arrive at the vote-taker's address before 05:00:00 GMT,   13 April 1992.  Other information:    Repeat Calls for Votes and mass acknowledgments of votes received   to date will be posted periodically during the voting period to   news.announce.newgroups and  news.groups.    The final results of the vote will be posted directly after the end   of the voting period.  In order for comp.society.privacy to be created   there must be at more "yes" votes then "no" votes AND at least 100 more    "yes" votes than "no" votes.   From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:44:36 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1815 news.groups:39077 alt.privacy:3224 comp.org.eff.talk:6796 alt.society.civil-liberty:3407 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.privacy,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.society.civil-liberty Path: rpi!bounce-back From: Dennis G. Rears <[email protected]> Subject: RFD:  comp.society.privacy Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1992 14:25:35 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 71 Status: RO X-Status:      This is a updated Call for Discussion for the creation of a new newsgroup  with the name:      comp.society.privacy    The original CFD went out several months ago.  Most of the comments were favourable, the only disagreement was whether it should be named comp.privacy or comp.society.privacy.  Because of the sentiments that were stated, I am proposing the name to be comp.society.privacy.   One question that was raised is what the relationship between CSP and alt.privacy.  There is no relationship between the two groups.    ---------------------Original CFD-----------------------------   This newsgroup will be moderated and be gatewayed to an Internet Mailing List.  I propose myself as the Moderator of this newsgroup. I am currently moderator of the telecom-priv ([email protected]) Internet mailing list.  The telecom-priv mailing list will be folded into this newsgroup.     The discussion will center around the effect of technology upon privacy.  All to often technology is way ahead of the law and society as it presents us with new devices and applications.  Technology can enhance and detract from privacy.  For example cryptologic methods can enhance privacy but sophisicated microphones can detract from it.     Topics include but are not restricted to:  	o Telecommunications - Caller-Id, ANI, monitoring of  phones calls (cellear/cordless), tracking people's locations through use of   	o Cryptology - enhances citizens rights to safeguard their information.  	o Data Bases - Big Brother is here but it is not just the Govt, It is also Corporate America.  The advent of mailing lists has now reach an extremely high level.  Consider the Social Security Number.  	o High Tech Surveillance Devices - ranging for sophisicated (SP) bugs, viewing devices, and audio devices.  	o The boon in video cameras and private citizens taping events; e.g. Rodney King episode.  Video as well as Photographic information can be forged.    	o  The effect of technology on privacy in the legal arena (e.g admissibilty in court of items produced by new and old technology).  	o Misc - National Identifier Numbers, Bar coding currency, electronic  toll devices mounted on Autos, etc.      This group is not intended for the overall issue of privacy, (e.g should a rape victim have their name published).      Currently privacy issues are discussed in many newsgroups but only how the privacy issue affects that one topic.  There is a need for a single newsgroup.  The Internet mailing list telecom-priv ([email protected]) was created a year ago to discuss Caller-Id after the that topic was bounced from comp.dcom.telecom. Telecom-priv was expanded to include all issues of privacy dealing with telecom equipment.      I am proposing that this group be moderated to keep a high signal to noise ratio.  Moderation of a newgroup means different thing to different people.  The moderation that I propose will filter out all administrative requests, test messages, non-tech/privacy items, and excessive flames. Nothing is censored.   Dennis --  			Dennis G. Rears MILNET:   [email protected]     UUCP:  ...!uunet!fsac1.pica.army.mil!drears INTERNET: [email protected]    USPS:  Box 210, Wharton, NJ 07885 Phone(home): 201.927.8757