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From [email protected] Mon Sep 13 16:08:31 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alan Kennedy) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.graphics.visualization,rec.video.production Subject: RFD: comp.soft-sys.wavefront Followup-To: news.groups Date: 11 Sep 1993 18:42:20 -0400 Organization: Internex Online - Toronto, Canada (416) 363-3783 Lines: 59 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4038 news.groups:81608 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:2137 comp.graphics:44114 comp.sys.sgi.apps:1538 comp.sys.sgi.misc:4712 comp.graphics.visualization:4259 rec.video.production:4058                            Request For Discussion   This is a Request For Discussion on the creation of a newsgroup  dedicated to the discussion of techniques, ideas, problems and  solutions for users of products from Wavefront Technologies.    NAME comp.soft-sys.wavefront   STATUS unmoderated   CHARTER Discussions of a technical nature for people who use the entire  spectrum of software products from Wavefront Technologies, Santa Barbara CA, including The Advanced Visualizer,  The Data Visualizer, The Video Composer, Dynamation, Kinemation, Advanced Paint etc. It is intended for users with all levels of experience, so that the inexperienced can learn  from the those with more experience.    RATIONALE High end animation and visualization systems have reached a  point where they are so powerful, that it takes months if not years to master the software. Companies such as Wavefront have very good technical support hot lines, but often you need to  speak with someone who actually uses the product in a production  environment. There are thousands of Wavefront users on every  continent and we need a way to communicate with each other. The perfect solution is a newsgroup that is carried on the main  backbone.   CALENDAR The discussion period will be from September 11th to October 11th. If there are no serious problems, the first CFV should be on or about October 12th, 1993, and the voting period will last 22 days.   Please make sure that ALL discussions regarding this RFD take place only in news.groups.   If you have ANY comments or questions, please do not hesitate to  contact me, Alan Kennedy at [email protected] If you do  not hear back from me within a day or two, please send your  message again. If you do have problems reaching me, please try  me at [email protected]   FYI This RFD is being cross posted to the following other newsgroups; comp.sys.sgi.graphics comp.graphics comp.sys.sgi.apps comp.sys.sgi.misc comp.graphics.visualization rec.video.production   PLEASE NOTE: This RFD was possibly posted on September 2nd, but due to mail problems the message was truncated and not properly cross-posted. The dates have been modified in this RFD so please ignore any previous postings. I'm sorry for any confusion this may have caused. A.K.  From [email protected] Tue Sep 28 14:29:12 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Alan Kennedy) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.visualization,rec.video.production Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.soft-sys.wavefront Followup-To: news.groups Date: 28 Sep 1993 10:12:26 -0400 Organization: Internex Online - Toronto, Canada (416) 363-3783 Lines: 53 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected]                         2nd Request For Discussion Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4106 news.groups:83077 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:2268 comp.sys.sgi.apps:1659 comp.sys.sgi.misc:5006 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:2699 comp.graphics:44817 comp.graphics.visualization:4345 rec.video.production:4246  This is a Request For Discussion on the creation of a newsgroup  dedicated to the discussion of techniques, ideas, problems and  solutions for users of products from Wavefront Technologies.   NAME comp.soft-sys.wavefront  STATUS unmoderated  CHARTER Discussions of a technical nature for people who use the entire  spectrum of software products from Wavefront Technologies, Santa Barbara CA, including The Advanced Visualizer,  The Data Visualizer, The Video Composer, Dynamation, Kinemation, Advanced Paint etc. It is intended for users with all levels of experience, so that the inexperienced can learn  >from the those with more experience.   RATIONALE High end animation and visualization systems have reached a  point where they are so powerful, that it takes months if not years to master the software. Companies such as Wavefront have very good technical support hot lines, but often you need to  speak with someone who actually uses the product in a production  environment. There are thousands of Wavefront users on every  continent and we need a way to communicate with each other. The perfect solution is a newsgroup that is carried on the main  backbone.  CALENDAR The discussion period will be from September 11th to October 11th. If there are no serious problems, the first CFV should be on or about October 12th, 1993, and the voting period will last 22 days.   Please make sure that ALL discussions regarding this RFD take place only in news.groups.  If you have ANY comments or questions, please do not hesitate to  contact me, Alan Kennedy at [email protected] If you do  not hear back from me within a day or two, please send your  message again. If you do have problems reaching me, please try  me at [email protected]  FYI This RFD is being cross posted to the following other newsgroups; comp.sys.sgi.graphics comp.graphics comp.sys.sgi.apps comp.sys.sgi.misc comp.graphics.visualization rec.video.production  From [email protected] Wed Oct 20 15:13:25 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.research,rec.video.production Subject: CFV: comp.soft-sys.wavefront Followup-To: poster Date: 20 Oct 1993 15:09:27 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 64 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 11 Nov 1993 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4184 news.groups:85262 comp.sys.sgi.misc:5509 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:3029 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:2565 comp.sys.sgi.apps:1869 comp.graphics:45784 comp.graphics.research:608 rec.video.production:4401                  FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 2)  Unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.wavefront  comp.soft-sys.wavefront	Discussion of Wavefront software products, problems etc.  Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 10 Nov 1993.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Voting questions should be directed to Ed Bailey <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group, contact Alan Kennedy <[email protected]>.      CHARTER Discussions of a technical nature for people who use the entire spectrum of software products from Wavefront Technologies, Santa Barbara CA, including The Advanced Visualizer, The Data Visualizer, The Video Composer, Dynamation, Kinemation, Advanced Paint etc. It is intended for users with all levels of experience, so that the inexperienced can learn from those with more experience.   RATIONALE High end animation and visualization systems have reached a point where they are so powerful, that it takes months if not years to master the software. Companies such as Wavefront have very good technical support hot lines, but often you need to speak with someone who actually uses the product in a production environment. There are thousands of Wavefront users on every continent and we need a way to communicate with each other. The perfect solution is a newsgroup that is carried on the main backbone.  STANDARD VOTING INFO  You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to       [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements:        I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.wavefront or       I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.wavefront  You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain" vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".  You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within one to three days.  Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only ACKs for undeliverable mail.  Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation.  This vote will be counted using Ron Dippold's UseVote software, version 2.*. This vote is conducted by a member of the Usenet Volunteer Voters.  Ed Bailey Usenet Volunteer Votetakers --  Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: [email protected]{hagar,zonker}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected] Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."  From [email protected] Tue Nov  2 15:34:14 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.research,rec.video.production Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.soft-sys.wavefront Followup-To: news.groups Date: 1 Nov 1993 15:18:50 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 81 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4223 news.groups:86413 comp.sys.sgi.misc:5738 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:3179 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:2691 comp.sys.sgi.apps:1984 comp.graphics:46322 comp.graphics.research:609 rec.video.production:4521                  SECOND AND FINAL CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 2)  Unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.wavefront  comp.soft-sys.wavefront	Discussion of Wavefront software products, problems etc.  Votes must be recieved by 23:59 GMT, 10 Nov 1993.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Voting questions should be directed to Ed Bailey <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group, contact Alan Kennedy <[email protected]>.      CHARTER Discussions of a technical nature for people who use the entire spectrum of software products from Wavefront Technologies, Santa Barbara CA, including The Advanced Visualizer, The Data Visualizer, The Video Composer, Dynamation, Kinemation, Advanced Paint etc. It is intended for users with all levels of experience, so that the inexperienced can learn from those with more experience.   RATIONALE High end animation and visualization systems have reached a point where they are so powerful, that it takes months if not years to master the software. Companies such as Wavefront have very good technical support hot lines, but often you need to speak with someone who actually uses the product in a production environment. There are thousands of Wavefront users on every continent and we need a way to communicate with each other. The perfect solution is a newsgroup that is carried on the main backbone.  STANDARD VOTING INFO  You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to       [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements:        I vote YES on comp.soft-sys.wavefront or       I vote NO on comp.soft-sys.wavefront  You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain" vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".  You should receive an acknowledgement (via email) of your vote within one to three days.  Additional CFVs will NOT include mass ACKs, only ACKs for undeliverable mail.  Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation.  This vote will be counted using Ron Dippold's UseVote software, version 2.*. This vote is conducted by a member of the Usenet Volunteer Voters.  BOUNCED VOTE ACKS  Vote acknowledgements sent to the following addresses have bounced.  These votes *have* been counted, but I have been unable to reply to their mail. If you voted, but you have NOT received an ACK *and* your name is NOT listed below, then your vote was probably lost somewhere in the ether.  Please send another vote to [email protected]  Voter: [email protected] Voter: [email protected]  The following people have sent malformed ballots which have not been superceded by a Yes, No, or Abstain vote.  These people should revote.  A: [email protected] A: co%[email protected]  Ed Bailey Usenet Volunteer Votetakers --  Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: [email protected]{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected] Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."  From [email protected] Tue Nov 16 16:43:29 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ed Bailey) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.research,rec.video.production Subject: RESULT: comp.soft-sys.wavefront passes 197:24 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 16 Nov 1993 14:23:04 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 289 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4291 news.groups:87888 comp.sys.sgi.misc:6045 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:3375 comp.sys.sgi.graphics:2885 comp.sys.sgi.apps:2118 comp.graphics:47060 comp.graphics.research:610 rec.video.production:4629  				RESULT  Unmoderated group comp.soft-sys.wavefront  Newsgroups line: comp.soft-sys.wavefront Discussion of Wavefront software products, problems etc.  Usevote 2.0a Vote Count - (c) 1993 Ron Dippold  comp.soft-sys.wavefront group vote results - 222 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  197   24 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.soft-sys.wavefront  Voting on comp.soft-sys.wavefront closed November 10th, 23:59 GMT. 237 total votes were received.  12 votes were rejected as duplicates. 3 invalid votes were not superceded. 1 vote from a system account was rejected.  Barring any serious irregularities in the voting process, the vote should be newgrouped after five days.  This vote is was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions should be directed to Ed Bailey <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed group, contact Alan Kennedy <[email protected]>.      CHARTER Discussions of a technical nature for people who use the entire spectrum of software products from Wavefront Technologies, Santa Barbara CA, including The Advanced Visualizer, The Data Visualizer, The Video Composer, Dynamation, Kinemation, Advanced Paint etc. It is intended for users with all levels of experience, so that the inexperienced can learn from those with more experience.   RATIONALE High end animation and visualization systems have reached a point where they are so powerful, that it takes months if not years to master the software. Companies such as Wavefront have very good technical support hot lines, but often you need to speak with someone who actually uses the product in a production environment. There are thousands of Wavefront users on every continent and we need a way to communicate with each other. The perfect solution is a newsgroup that is carried on the main backbone.  comp.soft-sys.wavefront group vote Final Vote Ack   Yes Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                          Mark Wickens @hp4at.eunet.co.at:bruno%[email protected]                  Ronald Brutter [email protected]                                           John Michalak [email protected]                                          Alan D. Cabrera [email protected]                                                   Alan Kennedy [email protected]                                            Alan Rosenfeld [email protected]                                        Alan Dorin [email protected]                                   Andy Pinkard [email protected]                                                          Art Morel [email protected]                                                             [email protected]                                                   Axel Schmidt [email protected]                                                      [email protected]                                                           [email protected]                                                        Tom Benoist [email protected]                                       Bruce Hickey [email protected]                                                Bill Jepson [email protected]                                                  Kevin Bjorke [email protected]                                                       [email protected]                                           M.Boettinger [email protected]                         JOHN BRADFORD, ARCHITECTURE, HKU [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                              Brian Evans [email protected]                                           Kevin Lombardi [email protected]                                          Buck Buchanan [email protected]                                       Buckley Collum [email protected]                                         lance c burton [email protected]                                              Chris Allen [email protected]                                             Carol Levy [email protected]                                       Robert E. Minsk [email protected]                                                Roger Chen [email protected]                                   Cheryl Applebaum [email protected]                                      Chua Hak Lien [email protected]                                            Chuck D'Ambra [email protected]                                             Chad Clarke [email protected]                                                    Cliff Allen [email protected]                                    Eugene Cronshagen [email protected]                                                 Dirk Luesebrink [email protected]                                      Daniel D. Mazanek [email protected]                                               Dan Walker [email protected]                                             Daniel Odom [email protected]                                                  [email protected]                                                   [email protected]                      Francisco X DeJesus [email protected]                                             Derek Brown [email protected]                                                     Dan Murphy [email protected]                                 Dongmei Xing [email protected]                                            Doug Kingsbury [email protected]                                                 Ed Braden [email protected]                                                          [email protected]                                       Carter Emmart [email protected]                                                    [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                     john falby [email protected]                                                Lee Falta [email protected]                                                             [email protected]                                        Larry Carrier [email protected]                                        fred eichelbrenner [email protected]                                   Richard Fryer [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                                                   S. gaff [email protected]                                           Gary Monheit [email protected]                                                     Gert Monath [email protected]                                  George H. Otto 814.863.6112 [email protected]                                                Gary Hooper [email protected]                                       Glen Jerome Browning [email protected]                                           Glenn Bresnahan [email protected]                                                            [email protected]                                             Grace Earl [email protected]                                                          [email protected]                                                 Hans H. Huebner [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                                             Henrik Tramberend [email protected]                                               Drew Henry [email protected]                                        Charles Hillyer [email protected]                                          Chris Holland [email protected]                                             Joey Holmes [email protected]                               NG Fung Fai, Surveying, HKU [email protected]                                                          [email protected]                         Ian Every, ACS, The Open University [email protected]                                         Lee In-Kwon [email protected]                                               Mark Adams [email protected]                                         all software [email protected]                                         Mrs. J. Gun-Why [email protected]                                       Jim Goessinger [email protected]                                                    Jim Hourihan [email protected]                                           Joseph C. Lappa [email protected]                                      Jay L Nestle [email protected]                                  .................... [email protected]                                                    Joerg Jacobs [email protected]                           John Agapitos [email protected]                                      John Cooley [email protected]                                     Jon McCormack [email protected]                                              Josh Aller [email protected]                                           Jouni Ylisae [email protected]                                         Jakub Plichta [email protected]                                             Jim Atkinson [email protected]                                            Justin Sullivan [email protected]                                                John Locke [email protected]                                                Kathi Samec [email protected]                                            Keith Cormier [email protected]                                                      [email protected]                                      Kim Cunningham [email protected]                                              Kim Stephenson [email protected]                                    Randy Kleinman [email protected]                                        Kevin R. Martin [email protected]                              Kathryn Wallace WGS [email protected]                                        Martin Schr"oder [email protected]                                             Lance Barker [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                                                    likkai [email protected]                                            Charlie Lindahl [email protected]                                                  Lisa B. Reynolds [email protected]                                 Lonadar the Wanderer [email protected]                                                          [email protected]                                            [email protected]                                            Elaine Smith [email protected]                                   Mike Weisenborn [email protected]                                             fran mcafee [email protected]                                     Michelle A. Manson [email protected]                                      Marco A Concha [email protected]                                               Mark Sylvester [email protected]                                  Matthew A. Kliesner [email protected]                                       Mark Mayerson [email protected]                                                Frank Mays [email protected]                               Christoffer Kanljung [email protected]                                          Andrew Johnson [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                                  Milt R [email protected]                                     Marston J. Gould [email protected]                                       Matthew Lewis [email protected]                          Michael Mcneill -Visualization [email protected]                                         Moccozet Laurent [email protected]                                              Minbo Shim [email protected]                                            Michael Jones [email protected]                                            Dan Murrell [email protected]                                Rolf Schimmrigk [email protected]                                      Neville Spiteri [email protected]                                           Nick C. Fotis [email protected]                                                     Niko Luckow [email protected]                                            Owen F. Thomas [email protected]                                           Greg Parrish [email protected]                                                Paul Adams [email protected]                                           Paul Churchill [email protected]                                                    Pavel Mayer [email protected]                                          Peter Slaughter [email protected]                                             Mike Perry [email protected]                                                                  [email protected]                                            Paul E. Hoffman [email protected]                                                       Pam Johnson [email protected]                                                     Paul Roeser [email protected]                                              Petri Tuomola [email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn [email protected]                                             Ramsey Harris [email protected]                                          LISA REDWINE [email protected]                                                                [email protected]                                           Richard H. [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                                                Rob Jones [email protected]                               Robert Patterson -Graphics [email protected]                                  Robin Ricchetti [email protected]                                            diane rodimon [email protected]                                   Doerte Rosendahl [email protected]                                     Russell Halford [email protected]                                             Ron Woods [email protected]                                               [email protected]                              Woody Weaver SAS InstituteInc. [email protected]                                                 Tory_A.Sawyer [email protected]                                           Scott Nelson [email protected]                                                Sean Dever [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                         Starley Thompson [email protected]                                         Steve Welch [email protected]                             Jorge Juan Soto Hernandez [email protected]                                      Jonathan Southard [email protected]                                                     Sri Raju [email protected]                                           Steve Galle [email protected]                                            Christoph Stratmann [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                            Tanya George [email protected]                                          Terry Lee [email protected]                                       Jeff Thingvold [email protected]                                                             [email protected]                                           Tony R. Boutwell [email protected]                                      Theresa-Marie Rhyne [email protected]                                                   tien truong [email protected]                                             Timothy Znamenacek [email protected]                                                Gerard Turmel [email protected]                                 Manuel Urrutia [email protected]                                         Margaret Watson [email protected]                                              Michael F. Werner [email protected]                                                                    [email protected]                                           Doug Whetter [email protected]                                                 Wayne Wooten [email protected]                          William Sherman -Visualization [email protected]                                                Xiaobing Gu [email protected]                                             Jeff Yates  No Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                            Po Shan Cheah [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                                                Ian Jackson [email protected]                                          Jeremy Caplan [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                      John "Rings of Saturn" MacWilliamson [email protected]                                          Julian Macassey [email protected]                                          Fazal Majid [email protected]                                                                    [email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected]                                   Bill Owens [email protected]                                 Carsten "Pressy" Bormann [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                        Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri [email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller [email protected]                                                    Rod [email protected]                                               Ryan Bayne [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                                                    Shane Hartman [email protected]                                        Lynda L. True [email protected]                                               Smarasderagd Draco [email protected]                                       Srikanth Subramaniam [email protected]                                               Steve Rogers [email protected]                                                   Timo Rinne [email protected]                                               David J Harr   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ co%[email protected]                                            Carine Oeyen    ! No votes [email protected]                                            David Horsman    ! No votes [email protected]                                Mr John F Connors    ! No votes [email protected]                              TARDIS console    ! System account --  Ed Bailey                | Voice: (512) 471-4198   Fax: (512) 471-6715 Inst. for Fusion Studies | Internet: [email protected]{hagar,ziggy}.ph.utexas.edu, Univ. of Texas at Austin |   [email protected], or [email protected] Austin TX  78712         | "No pithy quotes.  Just email addresses."  
 
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