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From [email protected] Fri Mar 25 13:55:48 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (David Long) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.cpm Subject: Amstrad CPC newsgroup Followup-To: news.groups Date: 25 Mar 1994 11:15:59 -0500 Organization: KECHB School Lines: 20 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4837 news.groups:99046 comp.os.cpm:9527  Due to a considerable increase in interest in the Amstrad CPC series of machines, Marco Vieth (author of CPCEMU - a CPC emulator for the PC) and myself are interested in setting up a newsgroup devoted to this topic.  The proposed name is "comp.sys.cpc". This will cover every subject related to the CPC and will not be moderated.  I would appreciate a response from anyone with comments on this matter. Send follow-ups to "news.announce.newgroups" and "comp.os.cpm".  The CPC is an 8-bit machine, three models of which were produced by the British company Amstrad. It is based around a Z80 processor and has 64k of directly accessible memory, which can be expanded to 576k. The CPC Emulator is available in the Emulators directory of the Simtel20 archives/mirrors as CPCEMU09.ZIP. It requires a 386 or above with VGA to run. --  +---------------------------------------------+ | Those were some words of wisdom (?) from... | |     David Long: [email protected]      | +---------------------------------------------+  From [email protected] Tue May 31 16:06:50 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Emmanuel Roussin) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.sinclair Subject: RFD: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit Followup-To: news.groups Date: 31 May 1994 15:50:21 -0400 Organization: UUNET Communications Lines: 75 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5137 news.groups:105299 comp.os.cpm:10033 comp.sys.misc:5418 comp.sys.sinclair:4540                          REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION            Group Name:  comp.sys.amstrad.8bit              Status:  unmoderated        Distribution:  world-wide             Summary:  Discussions about CPC and PCW hardware/software         Proposed by:  David Long       ([email protected])                       Marco Vieth      ([email protected])                       Emmanuel Roussin ([email protected])   ******************************************************************   NOTE: This is similar to the original RFD: comp.sys.cpc, posted on March 25th, except that :        -- the proposed name has been changed to comp.sys.amstrad.8bit         to avoid messages from PC users        -- the newsgroup if created, will be relayed on BBS :            * genesis : the 8bit generation, FIDO 2:320/220              this french BBS will open this summer,            * Aspects BBS, FIDO 2:250/107 in U.K.         Expect other BBS in the future, we are looking for a bbs in         Germany.        -- FTP sites with CPC files :           * ftp.demon.co.uk in /pub/cpm, specific Amstrad CP/M files,             thanks to Paul Martin           * ftp.nvg.unit.no (very soon), thanks to Arnt Gulbrandsen   The changes were made as the result of on-line discussion.   The CFV should start around the 15th june, before people loose their access by going to summer holidays, and will call for votes on "comp.sys.amstrad.8bit". The original proposer WITHDRAWS the proposed name "comp.sys.cpc" in favor of "comp.sys.amstrad.8bit".   ********************************************************************   This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, comp.sys.amstrad.8bit   CHARTER   The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.amstrad.8bit will be open to discussions about the Amstrad CPC (464, 664, 6128, 464+, 6128+), PCW (8256, 8512, 9512).   Appropriate topics would include, but not be limited to :            - CPC/PCW hardware, software,            - CPCEMU, the CPC emulator from Marco Vieth, currently v1.0 at            oak.oakland.edu in /SimTel/msdos/emulator/CPCEMU10.ZIP,            - specific Amstrad CP/M files, overlays...              etc...     The only topic that is excluded is:           discussion of Amstrad PC-compatible (1512, 1640, 2x86, 3x86...)     This RFD is posted to comp.os.cpm, comp.sys.sinclair and uk.misc in addition to news.groups.   This is NOT a call for votes.  A Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted around the 15th june for comp.sys.amstrad.8bit and will be conducted by an independent third party.   Note the follow-up to news.groups.  The format for this RFD is indirectly stolen from the RFD for comp.langs.mumps, thanks to Daniel P. B. Smith  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue Jun 21 19:49:35 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.misc,comp.emulators.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: CFV: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit Followup-To: poster Date: 21 Jun 1994 17:59:09 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 90 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 22 Jul 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5246 news.groups:106821 comp.os.cpm:10197 comp.sys.sinclair:5015 comp.sys.misc:5516 comp.emulators.misc:468 alt.folklore.computers:73299  		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) 	       unmoderated group comp.sys.amstrad.8bit  Newsgroups line: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit		Amstrad CPC/PcW/GX4524+ software/hardware.   Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 July 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Emmanuel Roussin <[email protected]>   CHARTER (Proponent)  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.amstrad.8bit will be open to discussions about the Amstrad CPC (464, 664, 6128, 464+, 6128+), PcW (8256, 8512, 9256, 9512, 9512+, QUibble) and GX4524+.   Appropriate topics would include, but not be limited to :            - CPC/PcW/GX4524+ hardware, software,            - CPCEMU, the CPC emulator from Marco Vieth, currently v1.0 at            oak.oakland.edu in /SimTel/msdos/emulator/CPCEMU10.ZIP            In the future, if they are too many message about it, we will            discuss about a comp.emulators.cpc newsgroup,            - specific Amstrad CP/M files, overlays...              etc...     The only topic that is excluded is:           discussion of Amstrad PC-compatible (1512, 1640, 2x86, 3x86 and         others Amstrad compatible I don't know) because these computers         are really compatible, so comp.sys.ibm.pc.* newsgroups must be         used.     In the future, the newsgroup could be reorganized in comp.sys.amstrad.8bit.cpc and comp.sys.amstrad.8bit.pcw if really needed.     The newsgroup, if created, will be relayed on BBS as not everybody can read newsgroups, they will have also files for CPC/PcW :       * genesis : the 8bit generation, FIDO 2:320/220       this french BBS will open this summer,     * Aspects BBS, FIDO 2:250/107 in U.K.   Expect other BBS in the future, we are looking for a BBS in Germany. The BBS will take care to post valid messages, not to post dupes, etc...     FTP sites with CPC files :       * ftp.demon.co.uk in /pub/cpm, specific Amstrad CP/M files,       thanks to Paul Martin     * ftp.nvg.unit.no (soon), thanks to Arnt Gulbrandsen   And perhaps a coming french site.     Sinclair and Commodore 8bit users have their own newsgroup, the CPC/PcW were widely sold in U.K., France and Germany, also in other countries. It's time to have now our own newsgroup to discuss about these good computers. Nostalgia, when you hold me...   HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Check the "To:" address when you reply!  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:       I vote YES on comp.sys.amstrad.8bit       I vote NO on comp.sys.amstrad.8bit  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon Jun 27 14:16:05 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.misc,comp.emulators.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 27 Jun 1994 13:38:44 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 96 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 22 Jul 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5284 news.groups:107275 comp.os.cpm:10248 comp.sys.sinclair:5052 comp.sys.misc:5526 comp.emulators.misc:540 alt.folklore.computers:73684                       LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                unmoderated group comp.sys.amstrad.8bit  Newsgroups line: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit           Amstrad CPC/PcW/GX4524+ software/hardware.   Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 21 July 1994.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Emmanuel Roussin <[email protected]>   CHARTER (Proponent)  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.amstrad.8bit will be open to discussions about the Amstrad CPC (464, 664, 6128, 464+, 6128+), PcW (8256, 8512, 9256, 9512, 9512+, QUibble) and GX4524+.   Appropriate topics would include, but not be limited to :            - CPC/PcW/GX4524+ hardware, software,            - CPCEMU, the CPC emulator from Marco Vieth, currently v1.0 at            oak.oakland.edu in /SimTel/msdos/emulator/CPCEMU10.ZIP            In the future, if they are too many message about it, we will            discuss about a comp.emulators.cpc newsgroup,            - specific Amstrad CP/M files, overlays...              etc...     The only topic that is excluded is:           discussion of Amstrad PC-compatible (1512, 1640, 2x86, 3x86 and         others Amstrad compatible I don't know) because these computers         are really compatible, so comp.sys.ibm.pc.* newsgroups must be         used.     In the future, the newsgroup could be reorganized in comp.sys.amstrad.8bit.cpc and comp.sys.amstrad.8bit.pcw if really needed.     The newsgroup, if created, will be relayed on BBS as not everybody can read newsgroups, they will have also files for CPC/PcW :       * genesis : the 8bit generation, FIDO 2:320/220       this french BBS will open this summer,     * Aspects BBS, FIDO 2:250/107 in U.K.   Expect other BBS in the future, we are looking for a BBS in Germany. The BBS will take care to post valid messages, not to post dupes, etc...     FTP sites with CPC files :       * ftp.demon.co.uk in /pub/cpm, specific Amstrad CP/M files,       thanks to Paul Martin     * ftp.nvg.unit.no (soon), thanks to Arnt Gulbrandsen   And perhaps a coming french site.     Sinclair and Commodore 8bit users have their own newsgroup, the CPC/PcW were widely sold in U.K., France and Germany, also in other countries. It's time to have now our own newsgroup to discuss about these good computers. Nostalgia, when you hold me...   HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Check the "To:" address when you reply!  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:       I vote YES on comp.sys.amstrad.8bit       I vote NO on comp.sys.amstrad.8bit  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.    comp.sys.amstrad.8bit Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                                                From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Jul 28 17:27:52 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.cpm,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.misc,comp.emulators.misc,alt.folklore.computers Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit passes 148:36 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:37:08 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 272 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:5418 news.groups:110037 comp.os.cpm:10402 comp.sys.sinclair:5307 comp.sys.misc:5678 comp.emulators.misc:777 alt.folklore.computers:76104  				RESULT 	unmoderated group comp.sys.amstrad.8bit passes 148:36  There were 148 YES votes and 36 NO votes, for a total of 184 valid votes.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.   There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.   Newsgroups line: comp.sys.amstrad.8bit           Amstrad CPC/PcW/GX4524+ software/hardware.   This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Emmanuel Roussin <[email protected]>   CHARTER (Proponent)  The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.amstrad.8bit will be open to discussions about the Amstrad CPC (464, 664, 6128, 464+, 6128+), PcW (8256, 8512, 9256, 9512, 9512+, QUibble) and GX4524+.   Appropriate topics would include, but not be limited to :            - CPC/PcW/GX4524+ hardware, software,            - CPCEMU, the CPC emulator from Marco Vieth, currently v1.0 at            oak.oakland.edu in /SimTel/msdos/emulator/CPCEMU10.ZIP            In the future, if they are too many message about it, we will            discuss about a comp.emulators.cpc newsgroup,            - specific Amstrad CP/M files, overlays...              etc...     The only topic that is excluded is:           discussion of Amstrad PC-compatible (1512, 1640, 2x86, 3x86 and         others Amstrad compatible I don't know) because these computers         are really compatible, so comp.sys.ibm.pc.* newsgroups must be         used.     In the future, the newsgroup could be reorganized in comp.sys.amstrad.8bit.cpc and comp.sys.amstrad.8bit.pcw if really needed.     The newsgroup, if created, will be relayed on BBS as not everybody can read newsgroups, they will have also files for CPC/PcW :       * genesis : the 8bit generation, FIDO 2:320/220       this french BBS will open this summer,     * Aspects BBS, FIDO 2:250/107 in U.K.   Expect other BBS in the future, we are looking for a BBS in Germany. The BBS will take care to post valid messages, not to post dupes, etc...     FTP sites with CPC files :       * ftp.demon.co.uk in /pub/cpm, specific Amstrad CP/M files,       thanks to Paul Martin     * ftp.nvg.unit.no (soon), thanks to Arnt Gulbrandsen   And perhaps a coming french site.     Sinclair and Commodore 8bit users have their own newsgroup, the CPC/PcW were widely sold in U.K., France and Germany, also in other countries. It's time to have now our own newsgroup to discuss about these good computers. Nostalgia, when you hold me...   comp.sys.amstrad.8bit Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                          Nik Holmes [email protected]                           John Miller [100022,1300] [email protected]                                              A.E.Wright [email protected]                                   Luis Miguel Carmona [email protected]                                       Fernando Carvajal [email protected]                                           Arnt Gulbrandsen [email protected]                                   Richard L. Ahrens [email protected]                                               Marco Vieth [email protected]                                       Alexis Nunes [email protected]                        Radoslav Smiljanic [email protected]                                              Per Abrahamsen [email protected]                                          Austin Donnelly [email protected]                                                  [email protected]                                        Leif Andrew Rump [email protected]                                     David Langford [email protected]                                        Antonio Ortiz [email protected]                                        Arden Aspinall [email protected]                                    Attila Altan [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                                                     [email protected]                                              Borge Noest [email protected]                                                       [email protected]                            [email protected] [email protected]                                  Bernard Schmitz [email protected]                                        Werner Cirsovius [email protected]                                         Chris Stamper [email protected]                      Concurrent Osiam Team [email protected]                                                    Kip Crosby [email protected]                                  Craig Sutherland [email protected]                                                   CUI G [email protected]                                                    [email protected]                                     DARIOL[Strandh] [email protected]                                           DEREK TIDMAN detlev.ahlgrimm%[email protected]                   Detlev Ahlgrimm [email protected]                                        Dan O'Brien [email protected]                                                  Don Maslin [email protected]                                                    doug mansell [email protected]                                              David Wragg [email protected]                           Fernando J. Echevarrieta Fernandez [email protected]                                    Michael Begley [email protected]                                              W.Ahmed [email protected]                                                               [email protected]                                           [email protected]                               Francesco Devitt [email protected]                            Francois Lourbet [email protected]                                       Gilles Blanchard [email protected]                                             Frank Geider [email protected]                                     Ralf Geiger [email protected]                                               Georg Wittig [email protected]                     Gernot Lucks [email protected]                                           Greg Tan [email protected]                                         Michael Gruber [email protected]                                    Stefan Noehammer [email protected]                         Wolfgang Hesseler [email protected]                                    etudiant [email protected]                                                       [email protected]                                       Arno Hollosi [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                                  Markus W. Islinger [email protected]                                       Ian Watters [email protected]                                                           [email protected]                                                       [email protected]                                  Jean-Francois Weber [email protected]                                      Jens Kerle [email protected]                 Jean-Luc SIMONI Thesard GITD Fluhr [email protected]                    Jan Peters (CIP 92) [email protected]                                           Joe Cotroneo [email protected]                                          John Washington [email protected]                                        Jean Pierre Ley [email protected]                                                 Dr J. West [email protected]                                             SillyWiz [email protected]                                  Peter Kauffner [email protected]                                      Thomas Naumann [email protected]                                          Lloyd Wood [email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder [email protected]                                                            [email protected]                                              Lothar Wirbeleit [email protected]                                     Margolis & Co [email protected]_router.kerner.com           Mark Haigh-Hutchinson [email protected]\q                          Jose Pio Martinez Nu\qez [email protected]                                               michel martini [email protected]                                            Dr M.H. Evans [email protected]                              Michel Pinquier [email protected]                                        Nieminen Mika Petteri [email protected]                                   Marjorie R. Stamper [email protected]                                     Michael Stroucken [email protected]                                                      [email protected]                                                Neil R. Marsh [email protected]                                              Nick Gibbs [email protected]                                        Noel Llopis [email protected]                              TI1 Christof Odenthal [email protected]                                                Oeyvind Krosby [email protected]                              Ollivier Civiol [email protected]                                      HOLLY E ORDWAY [email protected]                                        Jacques Ovion [email protected]                                   Ivan Pattedoie [email protected]                                        Pierre Beyssac [email protected]                                             Christian Perrier [email protected]                                      Peter Sullivan [email protected]                                                                 Palli [email protected]                                  Lyndon Watson [email protected]                                             Paul Martin [email protected]                                                   Pochol Pascal [email protected]                                         Michael [email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn [email protected]                                         Russell Alphey [email protected]                                                                [email protected]                                             Mr R Ahmad [email protected]                                                Roger D Bucks [email protected]                                          Rene COUGNENC [email protected]                                                  Robert Morgan [email protected]                                             Ollivier Robert [email protected]                                  Robert Klein [email protected]                                                       [email protected]                                           Ross [email protected]                                                Bruno ROSSI [email protected]                                          Emmanuel Roussin [email protected]                                     Rhinman Rotz [email protected]                                                           [email protected]                                                       Rufus Cable [email protected]                         Christian SCHERER 39.56.82.81 [email protected]                                         Roman Schreiber [email protected]                                        Anders Spliid Hansen [email protected]                                                                 [email protected]                                                Stuart Foster [email protected]                                                                   [email protected]                                         Erik Trulsson [email protected]                                     Thomas Quinot [email protected]                                Thomas Varsamidis (SH) [email protected]                                                                  [email protected]                                                 Todd Parker [email protected]                                             Timothy Roddis [email protected]                                                         [email protected]                                Ulrich Hoffmann [email protected]                                      Bernd Strehhuber [email protected]                              Veronique Prevet [email protected]                                       Alex Hornby [email protected]                           Juergen Weber [email protected]                                               WEBER Vincent [email protected]                          Bernhard Weininger [email protected]                                                   Wolf Paul [email protected]                                                     [email protected]                                      Yavuz Batmaz [email protected]                                                      ycrnl13 [email protected]                                       Erwann Gaudal [email protected]                                                   Martin Zacho [email protected]                                                      zcapk55 ztorrida!jrlee%linuxpub.UUCP                                  Jesus Rafael Lee  Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                         Stefan Antersberger [email protected]                                                    Jim Ault [email protected]                                                 Jan Brittenson [email protected]                                 Simon. Laule [email protected]                                               [email protected]                                               Christopher Ward [email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch [email protected]                                                      Ed Taychert EOIN%[email protected]                                                       EOIN [email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan [email protected]                                          Greg Woodbury [email protected]                                        John Grohol [email protected]                                    Herve Schauer [email protected]                                   mary-frances  jagod [email protected]                                   JACOBS  DRU THOMAS [email protected]                                          Joseph Fortt [email protected]                                Jean-Michel Launay [email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson [email protected]                                          Julian Macassey [email protected]                                                   Axl [email protected]                                              Kari E. Hurtta [email protected]                                       Kjetil Torgrim Homme [email protected]                                                  Fazal Majid [email protected]                                                   Michael Grubb [email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected]                                               Neil Bowers [email protected]                                         Peter G. Berger [email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller [email protected]                                      Walter Roberson [email protected]                                               Ryan Bayne [email protected]                                                Siamak Ansari [email protected]                                         Smarasderagd [email protected]                                                        [email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown [email protected]                                          Timothy VanFosson [email protected]                                         Ward F. Bush