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From [email protected] Thu Sep 24 18:20:11 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2758 news.groups:56911 comp.sys.next.advocacy:2388 comp.sys.next.marketplace:835 comp.sys.next.misc:22873 comp.sys.next.programmer:7079 comp.sys.next.software:1804 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:6363 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Diana Kae Stanley) Subject: RFD: comp.sys.next.bugs Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Texas A&M Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 12:22:27 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 14                        CALL FOR DISCUSSION  comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs. (unmoderated)  With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade. This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds.  Please note that discussion will be conducted on news.groups. --  Diana Shoemaker [email protected]  From [email protected] Mon Nov  2 15:40:00 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2875 news.groups:58606 comp.sys.next.advocacy:2818 comp.sys.next.marketplace:1114 comp.sys.next.misc:24369 comp.sys.next.programmer:7736 comp.sys.next.software:2455 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:7197 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Lusty Wench) Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.next.bugs Followup-To: news.groups Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Me Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:52:08 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 27                    2nd Call for Discussion  comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs. (unmoderated)  With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade. This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include known fixes and/or workarounds.  I apologize for the delay in posting this second CFD.  There has been very little discussion regarding this group to date, however there was one fairly persuasive argument for making the group moderated.  The problems I see with making the group moderated are these:    1) Is there anyone who would be willing to moderate the group?    2) Would the moderator be expected to confirm that all proposed       postings are indeed actual bugs?  If so, see 1).  Follow-ups to news.groups. --  Diana Shoemaker [email protected]  From [email protected] Fri Nov 13 07:58:29 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Path: uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Diana Shoemaker) Subject: CFV: comp.sys.next.bugs Followup-To: poster Approved: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Me Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:15:44 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Lines: 79 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2946 news.groups:60356 comp.sys.next.advocacy:3023 comp.sys.next.misc:24916 comp.sys.next.programmer:8021 comp.sys.next.software:2664 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:7497                               CALL FOR VOTES  This is a formal Call For Votes (CFV) for the formation of a new Usenet newsgroup, comp.sys.next.bugs, as described below.  The RFD for this group was originated by Diana Shoemaker ([email protected]) and was  posted in news.announce.newgroups on September 24th, 1992.  Discussion  in news.groups since that time has been generally favorable (though  light), and no significant objections to the group's name or charter  have been raised.  The newsgroup will be constituted as follows:  comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs. (unmoderated)  Charter: With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade. This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be  maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include known fixes and/or workarounds.  VOTE ADDRESSES:    "Yes" votes (in support of the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs as   described) should be sent to  		[email protected]    "No" votes (in opposition to the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs   as described) should be sent to  		[email protected]  VOTE FORMAT:    Votes should carry a subject line confirming the voter's   intent, either "I vote yes on comp.sys.next.bugs" or "I vote no   on comp.sys.next.bugs" as appropriate.  Variations in subject   line format will be accepted as long as the intent is clearly   expressed.  If the vote carries an empty subject line the   message body will be inspected for confirmation of voting   intent.  VOTES SENT AS REPLIES TO THE CFV:    Votes sent as replies to the originator of this CFV   ([email protected]) will be counted as "yes" or "no" votes   according to their subject line or message body.  AMBIGUOUS VOTE RESOLUTION:    Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines do not make clear   the voter's intent, or whose subject line clashes with the vote   address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply   address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for   clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to   their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be   identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote   tally.   VOTING PERIOD:    Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is   approved for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending   at 23:59 GMT on Monday, December 14th, 1992.  Votes arriving at the   voting addresses or the reply address after the expiration of   the voting period will be discarded.    You may change your vote at any time before the expiry of the   voting period by simply submitting a new vote.  The last vote   to be cast by any given individual before the end of the voting   period will be counted; earlier votes cast by that individual   will be discarded.  And remember, it's one person, one vote.  From [email protected] Fri Dec  4 16:15:40 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.sys.next.bugs Followup-To: poster Date: 4 Dec 1992 15:46:31 -0500 Organization: Me Lines: 253 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3021 news.groups:62430 comp.sys.next.advocacy:3255 comp.sys.next.misc:25564 comp.sys.next.programmer:8374 comp.sys.next.software:2926 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:7911                     2ND CALL FOR VOTES AND VOTE ACK  This is the second Call For Votes (CFV) and vote acknowledgement for the formation of a new Usenet newsgroup, comp.sys.next.bugs, as described below.  The RFD for this group was originated by Diana Shoemaker ([email protected]) and was posted in news.announce.newgroups on September 24th, 1992.  Discussion in news.groups since that time has been generally favorable (though  light), and no significant objections to the group's name or charter  have been raised.  The original CFV was posted on or about November 12, 1992, and I received a fair number of votes in the days following the posting. On November 16, however, my machine was unexpectedly disconnected >from the net and remained disconnected until about 17:00 CST today, December 3.  At the end of this posting is a listing of people from whom I received votes before the machine was disconnected.  There has been only one vote come in since the machine was reconnected. I'm sure that there were a number of votes that bounced during the disconnection, so if your vote bounced, or you sent it more than a day or two ago, please try again now.  This disconnection was beyond my control; I hope that we can now resume the vote-taking without having to invalidate the process and begin again.  The newsgroup will be constituted as follows:  comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs. (unmoderated)  Charter: With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade. This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be  maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include known fixes and/or workarounds.  VOTE ADDRESSES:    "Yes" votes (in support of the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs as   described) should be sent to  		[email protected]    "No" votes (in opposition to the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs   as described) should be sent to  		[email protected]  VOTE FORMAT:    Votes should carry a subject line confirming the voter's   intent, either "I vote yes on comp.sys.next.bugs" or "I vote no   on comp.sys.next.bugs" as appropriate.  Variations in subject   line format will be accepted as long as the intent is clearly   expressed.  If the vote carries an empty subject line the   message body will be inspected for confirmation of voting   intent.  VOTES SENT AS REPLIES TO THE CFV:    Votes sent as replies to the originator of this CFV   ([email protected]) will be counted as "yes" or "no" votes   according to their subject line or message body.  AMBIGUOUS VOTE RESOLUTION:    Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines do not make clear   the voter's intent, or whose subject line clashes with the vote   address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply   address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for   clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to   their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be   identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote   tally.   VOTING PERIOD:    Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is   approved for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending   at 23:59 GMT on Monday, December 14th, 1992.  Votes arriving at the   voting addresses or the reply address after the expiration of   the voting period will be discarded.    You may change your vote at any time before the expiry of the   voting period by simply submitting a new vote.  The last vote   to be cast by any given individual before the end of the voting   period will be counted; earlier votes cast by that individual   will be discarded.  And remember, it's one person, one vote.  VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:   <[email protected]>  Andreas Haug <[email protected]>  Anno Siegel <[email protected]>  B.J.  13-Nov-1992 1726 <[email protected]>  Bob Palmer <[email protected]>  Charles Shub <[email protected]>  Charles William Swiger <[email protected]>  Christian Kurrer <[email protected]>  Christopher D Audley <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Corey Liss <[email protected]>  Dan Berry   [email protected] (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)  David G. Cantor <[email protected]>  Dennis Jespersen <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Douglas F. DeJulio <[email protected]>  Dragan Milicic <[email protected]>  Draphsor vodrun-Aelf <[email protected]>  Eric J. Olson <[email protected]>  Eric Noyau <[email protected]>  Eric Scott Boltz <[email protected]>  Erick Herring <[email protected]>  Erik Sowa <[email protected]>  Fredrik Nyman <[email protected]>  Garance A Drosehn <[email protected]>  Glenn Brown <[email protected]>  Gordie Freedman <[email protected]>  Greg Colello <[email protected]>  Gwyn Evans  13-Nov-1992 1707 <[email protected]>  H. Scott Roy <[email protected]>  Hubert Delahaye <[email protected]>  Ian Rae <[email protected]>  Ivo Welch <[email protected]>  Jeff Marshall <[email protected]>  Jim Bernatowicz <[email protected]>  Keith N. Lakeman <[email protected]>  Kim Simmons <[email protected]>  LISZT::bartok::heading%[email protected]  Larry Blische <[email protected]>  Lawrence Miller <[email protected]>  Marc Millier <[email protected]>  Marshall Gilula <[email protected]>  Martin Imbeck <[email protected]>  Matthew Seaman <[email protected]>  Matthias Zepf <[email protected]>  Michael Quinn <[email protected]>  Nick Kline <[email protected]>  Oliver Geisser <[email protected]>  Operator <[email protected]>  Pascal Chesnais <[email protected]>  Pascal Gaudette <[email protected]>  Paul Martin Trunz <[email protected]>  Paul S. Sears <[email protected]>  Peter Kron <[email protected]>  Po Shan Cheah <[email protected]>  Ray Spalding <[email protected]>  Robert Fischer <[email protected]>  Robert Macfarlane <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Roberto Virga <[email protected]>  Rubricant Horticulturist <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Dick Silbar)  Scott Robinson <[email protected]>  Sean Lamont <[email protected]>  Serge J. Goldstein <[email protected]>  Seth L. Blumberg <[email protected]>  Stephane Ah-ki <[email protected]>  Steven Hinkle <[email protected]>  Sven M. Heinicke <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Terry Gliedt <[email protected]>  Thierry Charles <[email protected]>  Thomas Fischer <[email protected]>  Thomas Sams <[email protected]>  Thomas Tschannen <[email protected]>  Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]>  Tony Zamora <[email protected]>  Ulrich Becker <[email protected]>  Walter R. Innes <[email protected]>  William J. Murphy <[email protected]>  Zenon Fortuna <[email protected]>  [email protected]  [email protected] (Alex Blakemore)  [email protected] (Alex Levine)  [email protected] (Andre Roberge)  [email protected] (Ken-ichiro Aoki)  [email protected] (Noam H. Arzt)  [email protected] (Alois Steindl)  [email protected] (Alvin Austin)  [email protected] (Adam Beeman)  [email protected] (Bill Smith)  [email protected] (Matthew Curtin)  [email protected] (Bob Vadnais)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (Robert E. Brown)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Bill Vrotney)  [email protected] (Charles_Spitzer)  [email protected] (Cliff Winnig)  [email protected] (Dan Danz)  [email protected] (David Lau)  [email protected] (Dean Blakeley MD)  [email protected] (Michael Declerck)  [email protected] (Lucien Dupont)  [email protected] (Dylan Kohler)  [email protected] (Eric Fronberg)  [email protected] (Erland Wittkoetter)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Ernest Prabhakar)  [email protected] (Ted Shuck  RCP)  [email protected] (Sean Nolan)  [email protected] (Larry Gadallah)  [email protected] (Glenn Reid)  [email protected] (Matthias Imhof)  [email protected] (Graham Stoney)  [email protected] (Henry McGilton)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (James A. McGilvray)  [email protected] (Joe St Sauver)  [email protected] (John McCracken)  [email protected] (John Nicol)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Kurt Bollacker)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Rohit Khare)  [email protected] (Jack R. Lawler)  [email protected] (Larry Fahnoe)  [email protected] (Paul Marcos)  matt%[email protected] (Matthew M. Stecker)  [email protected] (David Li)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Michael D. Stanfill)  [email protected] (Montgomery Zukowski)  [email protected] <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Nathan F. Janette)  [email protected] (Paul van der Zwan)  [email protected] (Peter Rossbach)  [email protected] (Peter Eisch)  [email protected] (brunner ralf)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)  [email protected] (Scott Hess)  [email protected] (Scott A. McIntyre)  [email protected] (Marcos Javier Polanco)  [email protected] (Stefano Pagiola)  [email protected] (Subrata Sircar)  [email protected] (Stu Labovitz)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Shawn Willden)  the special FX guy <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Howard Brenner)  [email protected] (Eric Wampner)  [email protected] (Don Yacktman)  [email protected] (Greg Yut)  From [email protected] Mon Dec 14 20:25:00 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.sys.next.bugs Followup-To: poster Date: 11 Dec 1992 10:32:58 -0500 Organization: Me Lines: 392 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3047 news.groups:62918 comp.sys.next.advocacy:3318 comp.sys.next.misc:25880 comp.sys.next.programmer:8498 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:8043 comp.sys.next.marketplace:1411                     3RD CALL FOR VOTES AND VOTE ACK  This is the third and final Call For Votes (CFV) and vote ack- nowledgement for the formation of a new Usenet newsgroup,  comp.sys.next.bugs, as described below.  The RFD for this group  was originated by Diana Shoemaker ([email protected]) and was  posted in news.announce.newgroups on September 24th, 1992.  Discussion  in news.groups since that time has been generally favorable (though  light), and no significant objections to the group's name or charter  have been raised.  At the end of this posting is a listing of people from whom I have received votes.  The list is sorted according to the From: line in each vote I have received.  The newsgroup will be constituted as follows:  comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs. (unmoderated)  Charter: With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade. This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be  maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include known fixes and/or workarounds.  VOTE ADDRESSES:    "Yes" votes (in support of the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs as   described) should be sent to  		[email protected]    "No" votes (in opposition to the formation of comp.sys.next.bugs   as described) should be sent to  		[email protected]  VOTE FORMAT:    Votes should carry a subject line confirming the voter's   intent, either "I vote yes on comp.sys.next.bugs" or "I vote no   on comp.sys.next.bugs" as appropriate.  Variations in subject   line format will be accepted as long as the intent is clearly   expressed.  If the vote carries an empty subject line the   message body will be inspected for confirmation of voting   intent.  VOTES SENT AS REPLIES TO THE CFV:    Votes sent as replies to the originator of this CFV   ([email protected]) will be counted as "yes" or "no" votes   according to their subject line or message body.  AMBIGUOUS VOTE RESOLUTION:    Ambiguous votes -- those whose subject lines do not make clear   the voter's intent, or whose subject line clashes with the vote   address -- sent to either the vote addresses or the reply   address will, where possible, be returned to their senders for   clarification.  Ambiguous votes which can not by returned to   their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be   identified in vote mass acknowledgements and in the final vote   tally.   VOTING PERIOD:    Votes will be collected for a period beginning when this CFV is   approved for publication in news.announce.newgroups and ending   at 23:59 GMT on Monday, December 14th, 1992.  Votes arriving at the   voting addresses or the reply address after the expiration of   the voting period will be discarded.    You may change your vote at any time before the expiry of the   voting period by simply submitting a new vote.  The last vote   to be cast by any given individual before the end of the voting   period will be counted; earlier votes cast by that individual   will be discarded.  And remember, it's one person, one vote.  VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT:   08-Dec-1992 1749 <[email protected]>  <[email protected]>  @fuug.fi:[email protected] (Sami Kukkonen)  A. Chase Turner <[email protected]>  Adrian Smith <[email protected]>  Alex Honor <[email protected]>  Alexander Hinds <[email protected]>  Andreas Haug <[email protected]>  Andrew Loewenstern <[email protected]>  Anno Siegel <[email protected]>  Arno Reitz <[email protected]>  Avery Wang <[email protected]>  B.J.  13-Nov-1992 1726 <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Benoit Grange <[email protected]>  Bill Hacker <[email protected]_ws1.sbi.com>  Bob Palmer <[email protected]>  Breck Witte <[email protected]>  Carrick Talmadge <[email protected]>  Charles Shub <[email protected]>  Charles William Swiger <[email protected]>  Christian Kurrer <[email protected]>  Christian_Paulus <[email protected]>  Christopher D Audley <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Chuck Kincaid <[email protected]>  Chuck Waltrip <[email protected]>  Corey Liss <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Dack)  Dan Berry   Dan Crimmins <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)  Darcy BROCKBANK <[email protected]>  David G. Cantor <[email protected]>  David Jaffe <[email protected]>  [email protected] (David Gursky)  Dennis Jespersen <[email protected]>  Dennis Roseman <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Dimitri Tischenko <[email protected]>  Dirk Balfanz <[email protected]>  Dis <[email protected]>  Donald J. Siegel <[email protected]>  Donald Lewine <[email protected]>  Douglas F. DeJulio <[email protected]>  Dragan Milicic <[email protected]>  Draphsor vodrun-Aelf <[email protected]>  Elmar K. Bins <[email protected]>  Eric J. Olson <[email protected]>  Eric Litman <[email protected]>  Eric Noyau <[email protected]>  Eric Scott Boltz <[email protected]>  Eric Steven Brown <[email protected]>  Eric Thayer <[email protected]>  Erick Herring <[email protected]>  Erik Sowa <[email protected]>  Frank Siegert <[email protected]>  Fredrik Nyman <[email protected]>  [email protected]  GLENN HOLM <[email protected]>  Garance A Drosehn <[email protected]>  Gerhard_Moeller <[email protected]>  Gianfranco Pocecai <[email protected]>  Glenn Brown <[email protected]>  Gordie Freedman <[email protected]>  Gossett <[email protected]>  Greg Colello <[email protected]>  Greg Vesper - 520.9 <[email protected]>  Guido Schoepp <[email protected]>  Gwyn Evans  13-Nov-1992 1707 <[email protected]>  H. Scott Roy <[email protected]>  H.Schlangmann-Lahner-DA-05/92 <[email protected]>  Harald Lauer <[email protected]>  Hubert Delahaye <[email protected]>  Ian Rae <[email protected]>  Ivo Welch <[email protected]>  J.B. Nicholson-Owens <[email protected]>  Jacob Gore <[email protected]>  James Grinter <[email protected]>  Jeff Marshall <[email protected]>  Jim Bernatowicz <[email protected]>  John Robison <[email protected]>  Juan Collas <[email protected]>  Keith N. Lakeman <[email protected]>  Kenji Seto <[email protected]>  Kim Simmons <[email protected]>  LISZT::bartok::heading%[email protected]  Larry Blische <[email protected]>  Lawrence Miller <[email protected]>  Marc Millier <[email protected]>  Mark Wuest   Markus Felten   Marshall Gilula <[email protected]>  Martin Imbeck <[email protected]>  Matthew Seaman <[email protected]>  Matthias Klose <[email protected]>  Matthias Zepf <[email protected]>  Michael Cox <[email protected]>  Michael D. Sprenger <[email protected]>  Michael Giddings <[email protected]>  Michael Quinn <[email protected]>  Michael R Conners <[email protected]>  Mikael Behrens <[email protected]>  Nick Kline <[email protected]>  Oliver Geisser <[email protected]>  Operator <[email protected]>  Pascal Chesnais <[email protected]>  Pascal Gaudette <[email protected]>  Patrick J. LoPresti <[email protected]>  Paul F. Kunz <[email protected]>  Paul Lynch <[email protected]>  Paul Martin Trunz <[email protected]>  Paul S. Sears <[email protected]>  Peter Kron <[email protected]>  Po Shan Cheah <[email protected]>  R. Matthew Emerson <[email protected]>  Ralf  Weber <[email protected]>  Ray Spalding <[email protected]>  Reimer A. Mellin <[email protected]>  Robert Fischer <[email protected]>  Robert Lutwak <[email protected]>  Robert Macfarlane <[email protected]>  Robert Wong <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Roberto Virga <[email protected]>  Rubricant Horticulturist <[email protected]>  Russ Beardall <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Dick Silbar)  Scott Robinson <[email protected]>  Sean Lamont <[email protected]>  Sebastian Florian Mix <[email protected]>  Serge J. Goldstein <[email protected]>  Seth L. Blumberg <[email protected]>  Stephane Ah-ki <[email protected]>  Stephen Peters <[email protected]>  Steve Crutchfield <[email protected]>  Steve Spicklemire <[email protected]>  Steven Hinkle <[email protected]>  Suzanne Woolf <[email protected]>  Sven M. Heinicke <[email protected]>  [email protected]  Terry Gliedt <[email protected]>  Thierry Charles <[email protected]>  Thomas Fischer <[email protected]>  Thomas Sams <[email protected]>  Thomas Tschannen <[email protected]>  Todd A Green <[email protected]>  Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]>  Tony Zamora <[email protected]>  Tye <[email protected]>  Ulrich Becker <[email protected]>  Vince DeMarco <[email protected]>  Walter R. Innes <[email protected]>  Wayne P. Rogers <[email protected]>  William J. Murphy <[email protected]>  Zenon Fortuna <[email protected]>  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (Alex Blakemore)  [email protected] (Alex Levine)  [email protected] (Andres Mencke)  [email protected] (Andre Roberge)  [email protected] (Annard Brouwer)  [email protected] (Ken-ichiro Aoki)  [email protected] (Arnaud Weber)  [email protected] (Noam H. Arzt)  [email protected] (Alois Steindl)  [email protected] (Alvin Austin)  [email protected] (Adam Beeman)  [email protected] (Bill Smith)  [email protected] (Matthew Curtin)  [email protected] (Bob Vadnais)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Rodney Price)  [email protected] (Robert E. Brown)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Bill Vrotney)  [email protected] (Dave Carr)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Charles_Spitzer)  [email protected] (Cliff Winnig)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Dan Danz)  [email protected] (Walter C. Daugherity)  [email protected] (David Lau)  [email protected] (Dean Blakeley MD)  [email protected] (Michael Declerck)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Matthew Dillon)  [email protected] (David L. Williams)  [email protected] (Douglas Scott)  [email protected] (Douglas R. Davidson)  [email protected] (Dennis W. Ruck)  [email protected] (Lucien Dupont)  [email protected] (Doug Boyce)  [email protected] (Dylan Kohler)  [email protected] (Charles Eickelberg)  [email protected] (Ed McGuire)  [email protected] (Eric Fronberg)  [email protected] (Eric Wespestad)  [email protected] (Erik Kraft)  [email protected] (Erland Wittkoetter)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Ted Shuck  RCP)  [email protected] (Sean Nolan)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Federico Heinz)  [email protected] (Frank Mitchell)  [email protected] (Larry Gadallah)  [email protected]_ed.rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)  [email protected] (Geoff Spradley)  [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)  gimli!uniol!tpki!greve!claus (Claus Greve)  [email protected] (Glenn Reid)  [email protected] (Matthias Imhof)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (Graham Stoney)  [email protected] (Gordon Van Huizen)  [email protected] (Hans Aafloy)  [email protected] (Henry McGilton)  [email protected] (Henry Flurry)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Jim Blevins)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (James A. McGilvray)  [email protected] (John Jay Feiler)  [email protected] (Joe St Sauver)  [email protected] (Joe Plassmann)  [email protected] (John McCracken)  [email protected] (John Nicol)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Karl Kraft)  [email protected] (Kurt Bollacker)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Kelley Wittmeyer)  [email protected] (Rohit Khare)  [email protected] (Frederick Korz)  [email protected] (Martin Krause)  [email protected]  lafont Denis <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Jack R. Lawler)  [email protected] (Larry Fahnoe)  [email protected] (M Carling)  [email protected] (Paul Marcos)  matt%[email protected] (Matthew M. Stecker)  [email protected]  [email protected]  [email protected] (David Li)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Marc G. Frank)  [email protected] (Michael Brouwer)  [email protected] (Jeff Cooper)  [email protected] (Michael D. Stanfill)  [email protected] (Eric Minch)  [email protected] (Montgomery Zukowski)  [email protected] (Mike Bray)  [email protected] (Mark Stankus)  [email protected] <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Fernando Lopez Lezcano)  [email protected] (Nathan F. Janette)  pat%[email protected] (Patrique Lalonde)  [email protected] (Paul van der Zwan)  [email protected] (Peter Rossbach)  [email protected] (Peter Eisch)  [email protected] (Paul A. Griffin)  [email protected] (Phillip Zakhour)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Joel Plutchak)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Ralf E. Stranzenbach)  [email protected] (brunner ralf)  [email protected]  richard%[email protected] (Richard Ruth)  [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)  [email protected] (Robert Urquhart)  [email protected] (Roberto Arrocha)  [email protected] (Ruediger Schwarz)  [email protected] (Henning Rusche)  [email protected] (Russell Schulz)  [email protected] (Samuel Choi)  [email protected] (Scott Hess)  [email protected] (Scott A. McIntyre)  sdz01!brocher (Dominic Brocher)  [email protected] (Marcos Javier Polanco)  [email protected] (Stefano Pagiola)  [email protected] (Subrata Sircar)  [email protected] (Stefan Taxhet)  [email protected] (Stanley Perkins)  [email protected] (Stephan Bublava)  [email protected] (Stu Labovitz)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Sulistio Muljadi)  [email protected]  [email protected] (Shawn Willden)  [email protected] (Ted Slupesky)  the special FX guy <[email protected]>  [email protected] (Thomas Funke)  [email protected] (Howard Brenner)  [email protected] (Kamlesh Trivedi)  [email protected] (Wade Blomgren)  [email protected] (Eric Wampner)  [email protected] (Don Yacktman)  [email protected] (Greg Yut)  From [email protected] Mon Dec 14 20:27:03 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.next.bugs passes 337:48 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:23:31 -0500 Organization: Me Lines: 423 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3056 news.groups:63191 comp.sys.next.advocacy:3351 comp.sys.next.misc:26010 comp.sys.next.programmer:8555 comp.sys.next.software:3118 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:8083                    FINAL VOTE ACK AND VOTE TALLY  The vote for the creation of comp.sys.next.bugs has passed, with 337 votes in favor and 48 votes against.  	337  yes votes 	 48  no votes 	--- 	385  total  	337 > 100 + 48  (more than 100 more yes votes than no votes) 	337 > 2/3 * 385 (more than 2/3 of the total votes are in favor)  At the end of this posting is a listing of people from whom I have received votes, with all "yes" votes listed first, followed by all "no" votes.  The list is sorted according to the From: line in each vote. If there are no significant objections to the vote within the next 5  days, the newsgroup will be created according to the following charter:  comp.sys.next.bugs      Discussion and solutions for known NeXT bugs. (unmoderated)  Charter: With the release of version 3.0 of NeXTStep has come a rash of bug reports, as would be expected with any major software upgrade. This group will provide a forum for discussion of new bugs and a resource for those looking for bug fixes and workarounds for all versions of NeXTStep.  A master list of confirmed bugs will be  maintained and will be posted periodically, as well as being made available from one or more archive sites.  This list will include known fixes and/or workarounds.  VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE GROUP CREATION:   08-Dec-1992 1749 <[email protected]>   [email protected]   <[email protected]>   @fuug.fi:[email protected] (Sami Kukkonen)   A. Chase Turner <[email protected]>   Adrian Smith <[email protected]>   Alastair Thomson <[email protected]>   Alex Honor <[email protected]>   Alexander Hinds <[email protected]>   Alexander Lehmann <[email protected]>   Alexander Rockel <[email protected]>   Amy McNulty <[email protected]>   Andreas Haug <[email protected]>   Andy Newman <[email protected]>   Anno Siegel <[email protected]>   Arno Reitz <[email protected]>   Avery Wang <[email protected]>   B.J.  13-Nov-1992 1726 <[email protected]>   [email protected]   Benoit Grange <[email protected]>   Bill Nixon <[email protected]>   Bob Palmer <[email protected]>   Breck Witte <[email protected]>   Brian A. Kowal <[email protected]>   Carrick Talmadge <[email protected]>   Charles William Swiger <[email protected]>   Christian Kurrer <[email protected]>   Christopher D Audley <[email protected]>   Christopher R. Douty <[email protected]>   [email protected]   Chuck Kincaid <[email protected]>   Chuck Waltrip <[email protected]>   Corey Liss <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Dack)   Dan Berry    Dan Crimmins <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Dan Donovan - Sun San Francisco SE)   Darcy BROCKBANK <[email protected]>   David Aston <[email protected]>   David G. Cantor <[email protected]>   David Jaffe <[email protected]>   David Meyer <[email protected]>   [email protected] (David Gursky)   Dennis Jespersen <[email protected]>   Dennis Roseman <[email protected]>   [email protected]   Diego Garcia <[email protected]>   Dimitri Tischenko <[email protected]>   Dirk Balfanz <[email protected]>   Dis <[email protected]>   Donald J. Siegel <[email protected]>   Douglas F. DeJulio <[email protected]>   Dragan Milicic <[email protected]>   Draphsor vodrun-Aelf <[email protected]>   Elmar K. Bins <[email protected]>   Eric Noyau <[email protected]>   Eric Scott Boltz <[email protected]>   Eric Thayer <[email protected]>   Erik Sowa <[email protected]>   Frank Siegert <[email protected]>   Fredrik Nyman <[email protected]>   [email protected]   GLENN HOLM <[email protected]>   George Chow <[email protected]>   Gerhard_Moeller <[email protected]>   Gianfranco Pocecai <[email protected]>   Glenn Brown <[email protected]>   Gordie Freedman <[email protected]>   Gordon Clare <[email protected]>   Gossett <[email protected]>   Greg Colello <[email protected]>   Greg Vesper - 520.9 <[email protected]>   Guido Schoepp <[email protected]>   Gwyn Evans  13-Nov-1992 1707 <[email protected]>   H. Scott Roy <[email protected]>   H.Schlangmann-Lahner-DA-05/92 <[email protected]>   Harald Lauer <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Herve Schauer)   Ian Daniel <[email protected]>   Ian Rae <[email protected]>   Irving_Wolfe <[email protected]>   J.B. Nicholson-Owens <[email protected]>   James Grinter <[email protected]>   Jason Hunsaker <[email protected]>   Jeff Marshall <[email protected]>   Jess Anderson <[email protected]>   Jim Bernatowicz <[email protected]>   John Robison <[email protected]>   Juan Collas <[email protected]>   Kathleen Lamb <[email protected]>   Kaya Bekiroglu <[email protected]>   Keith N. Lakeman <[email protected]>   Kenji Seto <[email protected]>   Kim Simmons <[email protected]>   LISZT::bartok::heading%[email protected]   [email protected]   Larry Blische <[email protected]>   Lawrence Miller <[email protected]>   Luke Kendall <[email protected]>   Marc Millier <[email protected]>   Mark Adler <[email protected]>   Mark Wuest    Markus Felten    Marshall Gilula <[email protected]>   Martin Imbeck <[email protected]>   Matthew Seaman <[email protected]>   Matthias Klose <[email protected]>   Matthias Zepf <[email protected]>   Michael Cox <[email protected]>   Michael D. Sprenger <[email protected]>   Michael Friendly <[email protected]>   Michael Giddings <[email protected]>   Michael Quinn <[email protected]>   Michael R Conners <[email protected]>   Mikael Behrens <[email protected]>   Nick Kline <[email protected]>   Oliver Geisser <[email protected]>   Operator <[email protected]>   Pascal Chesnais <[email protected]>   Pascal Gaudette <[email protected]>   Patrick J. LoPresti <[email protected]>   Paul Lynch <[email protected]>   Paul Martin Trunz <[email protected]>   Paul S. Sears <[email protected]>   Peter Kron <[email protected]>   Peter Lount <[email protected]>   Po Shan Cheah <[email protected]>   Ralf  Weber <[email protected]>   Ralf Thomas Brunner <[email protected]>   Ray Spalding <[email protected]>   Reimer A. Mellin <[email protected]>   Remi Houdaille <[email protected]>   Robert Fischer <[email protected]>   Robert Lutwak <[email protected]>   Robert Wong <[email protected]>   [email protected]   Roberto Virga <[email protected]>   Rubricant Horticulturist <[email protected]>   Russ Beardall <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Dick Silbar)   Scott Robinson <[email protected]>   Sean Lamont <[email protected]>   Sebastian Florian Mix <[email protected]>   Serge J. Goldstein <[email protected]>   Seth L. Blumberg <[email protected]>   Stephane Ah-ki <[email protected]>   Stephen Peters <[email protected]>   Steve Crutchfield <[email protected]>   Steve Spicklemire <[email protected]>   Steven Hinkle <[email protected]>   Suzanne Woolf <[email protected]>   [email protected]   Terry Gliedt <[email protected]>   Thomas Fischer <[email protected]>   Thomas Tschannen <[email protected]>   Tim Morris-Yates <[email protected]>   Tim Murdoch <[email protected]>   Todd A. Keaffaber <[email protected]>   Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]>   Tye <[email protected]>   Ulrich Becker <[email protected]>   Vince DeMarco <[email protected]>   Walter R. Innes <[email protected]>   William J. Murphy <[email protected]>   Zenon Fortuna <[email protected]>   [email protected]   [email protected] (Lucas Wagner)   al%[email protected] (Andre_Lalonde)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Alex Blakemore)   [email protected] (Alex Levine)   [email protected] (Andres Mencke)   [email protected] (Laurent Amon)   [email protected] (Andre Roberge)   [email protected] (Annard Brouwer)   [email protected] (Antoine Gautier)   [email protected] (Ken-ichiro Aoki)   [email protected] (Noam H. Arzt)   [email protected] (Alois Steindl)   [email protected] (Alvin Austin)   [email protected] (Brian McElree)   [email protected] (Adam Beeman)   [email protected] (Bill Smith)   [email protected] (Matthew Curtin)   [email protected] (Bob Vadnais)   [email protected]   breck <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Rodney Price)   [email protected] (Robert E. Brown)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Bill Vrotney)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Charles_Spitzer)   [email protected] (Chris Amies)   [email protected] (Cliff Winnig)   [email protected] (Craig Bustrin)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Walter C. Daugherity)   [email protected]   [email protected] (David Lau)   [email protected] (Dean Blakeley MD)   [email protected] (Michael Declerck)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Matthew Dillon)   [email protected] (David L. Williams)   [email protected] (Dmitri Linde)   [email protected] (Douglas Scott)   [email protected] (Douglas R. Davidson)   [email protected] (Dennis W. Ruck)   [email protected] (Doug Boyce)   [email protected] (Dylan Kohler)   [email protected] (Charles Eickelberg)   [email protected] (Eric Fronberg)   [email protected] (Eric Wespestad)   [email protected] (Erland Wittkoetter)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Ted Shuck  RCP)   fantasy!mic[email protected] (Sean Nolan)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Federico Heinz)   [email protected] (Frank Mitchell)   [email protected] (Larry Gadallah)   [email protected] (Gerard Hill)   [email protected]_ed.rna.indiv.nluug.nl (Gerben Wierda)   [email protected] (Geoff Spradley)   [email protected] (Kim Gillies X246)   gimli!uniol!tpki!greve!claus (Claus Greve)   [email protected] (Glenn Reid)   [email protected] (Matthias Imhof)   [email protected]   [email protected]   [email protected] (Graham Stoney)   [email protected] (Gordon Van Huizen)   [email protected] (Hans Aafloy)   [email protected] (Harit)   [email protected] (Henry McGilton)   [email protected] (Henry Flurry)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Jim Blevins)   [email protected]   [email protected]   [email protected] (James A. McGilvray)   [email protected] (John Jay Feiler)   [email protected] (Joe St Sauver)   [email protected] (Joe Plassmann)   [email protected] (John McCracken)   [email protected] (Joseph Goldstone)   [email protected] (John Nicol)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Kurt Bollacker)   [email protected] (Kelley Wittmeyer)   [email protected] (Rohit Khare)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Frederick Korz)   [email protected] (Martin Krause)   [email protected]   lafont Denis <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Jack R. Lawler)   [email protected] (robert w. layhe)   [email protected] (Lans_Brahmantyo)   [email protected] (Nathan Lee)   [email protected] (Larry Fahnoe)   [email protected] (Lewis Van Winkle)   [email protected] (Michael A. Duke)   [email protected] (Marco Benini)   [email protected] (Paul Marcos)   [email protected] (Mike Matthews)   [email protected]   [email protected]   [email protected] (Scott M. Stark)   [email protected] (David Li)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Marc G. Frank)   [email protected] (Michael Brouwer)   [email protected] (Jeff Cooper)   [email protected] (Michael D. Stanfill)   [email protected] (Eric Minch)   [email protected] (Montgomery Zukowski)   [email protected] (Mike Bray)   [email protected] (Mark Stankus)   [email protected] <[email protected]>   [email protected]  (Miles McCredie)   [email protected] (Fernando Lopez Lezcano)   [email protected] (Nathan F. Janette)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Ondro Mihal)   pat%[email protected] (Patrique Lalonde)   [email protected] (Toby Paterson)   [email protected] (Paul van der Zwan)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Peter Rossbach)   [email protected] (Peter Eisch)   [email protected] (Paul A. Griffin)   [email protected] (Philip Craig)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Quentin Scott)   [email protected] (Ralf E. Stranzenbach)   [email protected] (brunner ralf)   [email protected]   richard%[email protected] (Richard Ruth)   [email protected] (Robert Urquhart)   [email protected] (Roberto Arrocha)   [email protected] (Ross Donelly)   [email protected] (Ruediger Schwarz)   [email protected] (Henning Rusche)   [email protected] (Russell Schulz)   [email protected] (Samuel Choi)   [email protected] (Scott Hess)   [email protected] (Scott A. McIntyre)   sdz01!brocher (Dominic Brocher)   [email protected] (Marcos Javier Polanco)   [email protected] (Stefano Pagiola)   [email protected] (PHill Steven)   [email protected] (Stefan Taxhet)   [email protected] (Stanley Perkins)   [email protected] (Stephan Bublava)   [email protected] (Stu Labovitz)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Sulistio Muljadi)   [email protected] (Shawn Willden)   [email protected] (Ted Slupesky)   the special FX guy <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Thomas Funke)   [email protected] (Tom Marchioro)   [email protected] (Howard Brenner)   [email protected] (Tanming Fang)   [email protected] (Tony Rennier)   [email protected] (John Starta)   [email protected] (Tim Pugh)   [email protected] (Timothy Reed)   [email protected] (Kamlesh Trivedi)   [email protected] (Upasana Immidi)   [email protected] (Wade Blomgren)   [email protected] (Eric Wampner)   [email protected] (Don Yacktman)   [email protected] (Greg Yut)   [email protected] (Kenneth Zhao)    VOTES AGAINST THE GROUP CREATION:   Adrian Smith <[email protected]>   Andrew Loewenstern <[email protected]>   Bill Hacker <[email protected]_ws1.sbi.com>   Charles Shub <[email protected]>   Chris Marble <[email protected]>   Christian_Paulus <[email protected]>   Donald Lewine <[email protected]>   Eric J. Olson <[email protected]>   Eric Litman <[email protected]>   Eric Steven Brown <[email protected]>   Erick Herring <[email protected]>   Garance A Drosehn <[email protected]>   Gary K. Jacobs <[email protected]>   Hubert Delahaye <[email protected]>   Ivo Welch <[email protected]>   Jacob Gore <[email protected]>   Operator <[email protected]>   Paul F. Kunz <[email protected]>   R. Matthew Emerson <[email protected]>   Robert Macfarlane <[email protected]>   Sven M. Heinicke <[email protected]>   Thierry Charles <[email protected]>   Thomas J. Baker <[email protected]>   Thomas Sams <[email protected]>   Todd A Green <[email protected]>   Tony Zamora <[email protected]>   Vin Licari <[email protected]>   Wayne P. Rogers <[email protected]>   [email protected] (Arnaud Weber)   [email protected] (Dave Carr)   [email protected] (Dan Danz)   [email protected] (Lucien Dupont)   [email protected] (Ed McGuire)   [email protected] (Erik Kraft)   [email protected] (Gregory G. Woodbury)   [email protected] (Karl Kraft)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Peter Kocks)   [email protected] (M Carling)   matt%[email protected] (Matthew M. Stecker)   [email protected] (Peter Karbaliotis)   [email protected] (Phillip Zakhour)   [email protected]   [email protected] (Joel Plutchak)   [email protected] (Murray Nesbitt)   [email protected] (Richard H. Miller)   [email protected] (Subrata Sircar)   [email protected]